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Post by sportsjock on Oct 16, 2017 7:37:30 GMT -5
If, If, If, how about acknowledging the complete game of near flawless football he displayed at Nebraska, where his throws were on target and on time. The naysayers are silent, but insist he'll 'suck' vs. Penn State. Truth is, if he is brilliant once again vs. the Nit. Lions, it will be....he will 'suck' at Iowa, and you'll continue to kick the can down the alley to MSU and then Mich. At some point you will have to admit, he's playing pretty damn good football at this point in the season. What are you talking about? I have not made a single comment on Barrett's play Nothing personal towards you, the negative insinuation caught my ire of the moment, everything's cool, just a momentary, impulsive venting. The Barrett bashing has been a bit too much to handle.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 8:28:54 GMT -5
Nothing personal towards you, the negative insinuation caught my ire of the moment, everything's cool, just a momentary, impulsive venting. The Barrett bashing has been a bit too much to handle. Are you JT's dad? Why is it so personal to you that others are questioning his play? I'll put it this way, the guy has great career stats but has come up short at times when he was really needed.
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Post by DrTorch on Oct 16, 2017 10:53:43 GMT -5
the bashing isn't as bad as the sycophantism
JT has played very well against absolutely horrible teams the last two weeks.
In related news, I kick my 2-year old sons JACK WAGON when we box. Maybe I am the greatest ever.
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Post by Rambo McClain on Oct 16, 2017 11:32:43 GMT -5
^^^+1
Nebraska hasn't played defense since the 1990's. Shall we reference the last 3 times OSU has played Nebraska. 2017 (56-14), 2016 (62-3), 2012 (63-38). I predicted 52-14, I didn't post it on here though. OSU & Barrett played even better than I thought they would. Nebraska has been trash for a long time now, they aren't the Nebraska of old they are just a mediocre college football team and have been like that for years.
Sagarin Rankings of OSU's opponents #6 Oklahoma #46 Indiana #60 Nebraska #68 Maryland #79 Army #99 Rutgers #107 UNLV
OSU is #2 and they finish off with #3 Penn State #17 Michigan #24 Michigan State #28 Iowa #112 Illinois
Here's a comparison of JT Barrett IV this year and last year vs Indiana 40.7 ADJ QBR last year 86.2 ADJ QBR THIS YEAR - but tanked the very next game vs Oklahoma
vs Nebraska 93.1 ADJ QBR last year 98.4 ADJ QBR THIS YEAR
vs Maryland 91.4 ADJ QBR last year 90.6 ADJ QBR THIS YEAR
vs Rutgers 83.7 ADJ QBR last year 93.6 ADJ QBR THIS YEAR
vs Mich State 40.0 ADJ QBR last year vs Clemson 46.1 ADJ QBR last year vs Oklahoma 25.9 ADJ QBR THIS YEAR
JT Barrett IV played great back to back games last year vs Nebraska and Maryland (both were 62-3 wins) but then followed that up with a dud vs Mich State, a dud vs Michigan, and a dud vs Clemson. 3 teams with talented defensive players.
^^^ That is why a lot of us are still skeptical.
JT has played 4 straight great games but they were against bad defenses. OSU can live with JT having an ADJ QBR in the 80's. OSU will lose to PSU for sure if JT plays another one of his duds. Here's how DeShaun Watson last years NC winning QB finished off 2016. October-January 93.3 91.6 80.9 91.3 82.0 89.2 94.0 91.5 - ACC Championship Game 86.9 - Fiesta Bowl 91.4 - National Championship Game
He wasn't putting up 40.0 QBR's in those big games down the stretch vs good teams.
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Post by sportsjock on Oct 16, 2017 13:38:45 GMT -5
the bashing isn't as bad as the sycophantism JT has played very well against absolutely horrible teams the last two weeks. In related news, I kick my 2-year old sons JACK WAGON when we box. Maybe I am the greatest ever. www.reactiongifs.com/r/erll.gif
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 15:26:28 GMT -5
JT kind of reminds me of the ex-girlfriend that the relationship went really well in the beginning, but when things went sideways you had to get rid of her. She tries to win you back and it seems like she's changed, but you are just waiting for her to screw up again.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 17, 2017 0:50:29 GMT -5
No "insight" on the plays called by the O-coordinators in those 2 games?? No "insight" on the OBVIOUS transition by the O-coordinators to integrate new pass plays into the URBAN MEYER offense?? No insight in how much better the receivers are running routes and catching balls in those 2 games?? No "insight" into how the trust between the QB, the O-line and wide receivers is overwhelmingly different now compared to early in the season?? I'm going to preface this by saying I hope this doesn't happen, but you are digging a whole you won't be able to get out of if Barrett sucks against Penn St Not too bright, with no "insight". Do you think the play calling has improved or gotten worse? Have the number of bubble screens and swing passes called increased or decreased over the past 7 games? The QBs don't call those plays. Do you think it's easy for a former college head coach and an NFL assistant coach who had never worked together, with 2 different offensive philosophies, to mesh their ideas and implement them into Urban Meyers's offense? Would they be at their best in the first game or have gotten better by the 7th game or gotten worse? Do you think the O-coordinators this year are better or worse than the O-coordinators last year? Why were last year's fired? Do you think the O-line play has improved or gotten worse over the past 7 games? Are the WRs dropping more passes or fewer passes? Do you only watch the QBs and TBs? Try watching the O-line play and routes run by the WRs. Have you not noticed that there are FAR FEWER conversations between the QB and WRs after a botched pass play? Haven't you noticed that when crossing route plays are called and the opponents are in a Zone, that the receivers have learned to notice the Zone and break off their route and settle into a soft spot in the zone?? Haven't you noticed that Mack and Victor NOW will turn their heads to the middle of the field as if they're running a post pattern, before breaking sharply in the opposite direction for an out route?? This year Ohio State has two TBs better than any TB they had last year. Have you not noticed that the defense is getting off the field, getting the offense back on the field? Have you not noticed that the offense is playing with more tempo than they did earlier in the year? OBVIOUSLY the offense will not run wild against Penn State and I don't give a shat, as long as they win.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 17, 2017 1:42:12 GMT -5
Rambo Vogell, You predicted 54-14, but you didn't tell anyone??? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!! Since Urban has been at Ohio State has he lost a Big Ten game to a team with a .333 winning %? Since Urban has been at Ohio State has he lost a Big Ten game when ranked in the Top Five in the country, to a team with a .400 winning %? Since Urban has been at Ohio State has he lost a Big Ten game to a team with .500 record, when they were ranked #2 in the country? Since Urban has been at Ohio State has he lost a Big Ten game by 34 points to a team with a .500 record?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 17, 2017 1:49:28 GMT -5
the bashing isn't as bad as the sycophantism JT has played very well against absolutely horrible teams the last two weeks. In related news, I kick my 2-year old sons JACK WAGON when we box. Maybe I am the greatest ever. Defending National Champion #2 Clemson lost to 3-3 Syracuse 2-4 Boston College beat Louisville and their Heisman winner The #1 team In the PAC10 lost to 2-3 Arizona 3-3 Cal beat Top Ten Washington St by 34. Indiana, Nebraska and Maryland would give all 4 of those winners a good game if not beat them on a given day. Anything like that happened to Ohio State, you would have kicked your 2 year old to a pulp, then committed hari kari
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2017 6:48:19 GMT -5
JT kind of reminds me of the ex-girlfriend that the relationship went really well in the beginning, but when things went sideways you had to get rid of her. She tries to win you back and it seems like she's changed, but you are just waiting for her to screw up again. Some are waiting, and those that are not waiting are hoping he doesn't.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2017 6:53:21 GMT -5
I'm going to preface this by saying I hope this doesn't happen, but you are digging a whole you won't be able to get out of if Barrett sucks against Penn St Not too bright, with no "insight". Do you think the play calling has improved or gotten worse? Have the number of bubble screens and swing passes called increased or decreased over the past 7 games? The QBs don't call those plays. Do you think it's easy for a former college head coach and an NFL assistant coach who had never worked together, with 2 different offensive philosophies, to mesh their ideas and implement them into Urban Meyers's offense? Would they be at their best in the first game or have gotten better by the 7th game or gotten worse? Do you think the O-coordinators this year are better or worse than the O-coordinators last year? Why were last year's fired? Do you think the O-line play has improved or gotten worse over the past 7 games? Are the WRs dropping more passes or fewer passes? Do you only watch the QBs and TBs? Try watching the O-line play and routes run by the WRs. Have you not noticed that there are FAR FEWER conversations between the QB and WRs after a botched pass play? Haven't you noticed that when crossing route plays are called and the opponents are in a Zone, that the receivers have learned to notice the Zone and break off their route and settle into a soft spot in the zone?? Haven't you noticed that Mack and Victor NOW will turn their heads to the middle of the field as if they're running a post pattern, before breaking sharply in the opposite direction for an out route?? This year Ohio State has two TBs better than any TB they had last year. Have you not noticed that the defense is getting off the field, getting the offense back on the field? Have you not noticed that the offense is playing with more tempo than they did earlier in the year? OBVIOUSLY the offense will not run wild against Penn State and I don't give a shat, as long as they win. None of this matters if he plays like he did against Oklahoma and they lose. Is really that hard to figure that out? If he plays like he did his freshman year at Michigan St they likely win
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 17, 2017 11:47:32 GMT -5
I can not believe you said that!!!
It won't matter if the DBs have 5 holding or pass interference penalties in the Penn State game like they had against weaker teams this year?? It won't matter if the O-line misses blocks, doesn't pass protect or has multiple holding and illegal motion penalties called on them, like they had against weaker teams this year?? It won't matter if the WRs drop a half dozen passes like they did against a weaker teams this year?? It won't matter if the front 7 on defense doesn't play as well against Penn State as they have against weaker teams?? It won't matter if a RB fumbles at a crucial juncture in the game?? It won't matter if special teams continue to play as poorly as they have all year?? It won't matter if the O-coordinators revert back to passive play calling with more bubble screens, swing passes and 5 yard curls, instead of calling plays where there actually ARE WRs running routes 20-30 yards down field that can be thrown to??
Give credit where credit is due.
First and foremost, a coaching staff has A LOT to do with the success or poor play of an offense.
Did you ever play on the offensive side of the ball for a successful football team? If so, you would know that all 11 players were important cogs in that offense. You were told that by your coaches! If an O-lineman is missing assignments, missing blocks, having penalties called on him, is he not a weak link? Just as much so as ANY skilled position player that makes mistakes. The difference? NO WHERE in a box score or the official stat line of a game or a season at any level will you see a single statistic good or bad for a specific O-lineman or as a group. NO WHERE will you see a stat for poorly run routes, dropped passes, missed blocks by WRs, only positive stats of caught passes and yardage. NO WHERE will you see personal negative stats for RBs. No mention of fumbles for the year, missed blocks, missed assignments or dropped passes. NO WHERE will you see who penalties were called on, just the total number and yardage.
The ONLY position on offense in which negative stats for a game and a season are kept is the QB. Completion % and INTS, regardless of who was at fault, it falls in the stats of the QB. There are graphs that show what quadrants of field in which passes are thrown, completions are made, incomplete passes occur and INTs occur. AGAIN the QB gets the blame regardless of whose fault it was, nor does it show when a DB or LB makes a great play on the ball. OR when a defensive player hits or rushes a QB to throw a pass to soon. There ARE stats for defensive players doing that to a QB, but not the name of the QB it was done to or why. There are no graphs for the other 10 players on offense. Does any of the other 10 positions on offense have a "rating" number assigned to them, as there is a QB rating? For that matter no "rating" number for any position on defense or special teams.
ALL PROVEN by the fact that Mr. Rambo only puts out QB stats. Not his fault, there are no stats for O-linemen, no negative stats for RBs or WRs. No stats for poor play calling by coaches. No negative personal stats for any position on defense or special teams. No stats for poor coaching in general, outside of wins and losses.
The above reinforces what the neophyte believes, as he only watches and cares what the QB and RB does.
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Post by sportsjock on Oct 17, 2017 12:32:19 GMT -5
Not too bright, with no "insight". Do you think the play calling has improved or gotten worse? Have the number of bubble screens and swing passes called increased or decreased over the past 7 games? The QBs don't call those plays. Do you think it's easy for a former college head coach and an NFL assistant coach who had never worked together, with 2 different offensive philosophies, to mesh their ideas and implement them into Urban Meyers's offense? Would they be at their best in the first game or have gotten better by the 7th game or gotten worse? Do you think the O-coordinators this year are better or worse than the O-coordinators last year? Why were last year's fired? Do you think the O-line play has improved or gotten worse over the past 7 games? Are the WRs dropping more passes or fewer passes? Do you only watch the QBs and TBs? Try watching the O-line play and routes run by the WRs. Have you not noticed that there are FAR FEWER conversations between the QB and WRs after a botched pass play? Haven't you noticed that when crossing route plays are called and the opponents are in a Zone, that the receivers have learned to notice the Zone and break off their route and settle into a soft spot in the zone?? Haven't you noticed that Mack and Victor NOW will turn their heads to the middle of the field as if they're running a post pattern, before breaking sharply in the opposite direction for an out route?? This year Ohio State has two TBs better than any TB they had last year. Have you not noticed that the defense is getting off the field, getting the offense back on the field? Have you not noticed that the offense is playing with more tempo than they did earlier in the year? OBVIOUSLY the offense will not run wild against Penn State and I don't give a shat, as long as they win. None of this matters if he plays like he did against Oklahoma and they lose. Is really that hard to figure that out? If he plays like he did his freshman year at Michigan St they likely win If you're laying the total blame for the Oklahoma loss on J.T. Barrett, you are being quite unfair and short sighted. The entire team played poorly that day, the cumulative effect of substandard performance by basically the entire team, resulted in the total sum on the scoreboard. Barrett's offensive line failed to provide protection and time to execute the offense and I think this was one of those rare instances, we can say Ohio State was out-coached.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2017 13:41:54 GMT -5
None of this matters if he plays like he did against Oklahoma and they lose. Is really that hard to figure that out? If he plays like he did his freshman year at Michigan St they likely win If you're laying the total blame for the Oklahoma loss on J.T. Barrett, you are being quite unfair and short sighted. The entire team played poorly that day, the cumulative effect of substandard performance by basically the entire team, resulted in the total sum on the scoreboard. Barrett's offensive line failed to provide protection and time to execute the offense and I think this was one of those rare instances, we can say Ohio State was out-coached. Then wouldn't you be a little short sided in promoting JT's records because someone blocked for him on every play, someone caught every pass and ran for most of those yards and scored most of his TD's that HE is being given credit for. When the line plays well, JT gets all the credit. When JT over throws a pass, the line failed to protect him?
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Post by sportsjock on Oct 17, 2017 16:44:17 GMT -5
If you're laying the total blame for the Oklahoma loss on J.T. Barrett, you are being quite unfair and short sighted. The entire team played poorly that day, the cumulative effect of substandard performance by basically the entire team, resulted in the total sum on the scoreboard. Barrett's offensive line failed to provide protection and time to execute the offense and I think this was one of those rare instances, we can say Ohio State was out-coached. Then wouldn't you be a little short sided in promoting JT's records because someone blocked for him on every play, someone caught every pass and ran for most of those yards and scored most of his TD's that HE is being given credit for. When the line plays well, JT gets all the credit. When JT over throws a pass, the line failed to protect him? Oh, but I agree with you, when the offense is clicking & humming along in rhythm, it's because his support people are doing their jobs well and they deserve full credit. They all depend on each other.
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Post by sportsjock on Oct 17, 2017 17:57:04 GMT -5
J.T. Barrett IV had a prolific performance Against the Cornhuskers, completing 27 of 33 passes for 325 yards and five touchdowns. He also rushed for 48 yards on 10 carries and two more scores, tying his own school-record of seven touchdowns responsible for in a game before exiting the contest in the fourth quarter. He led the Buckeyes to touchdowns on their first eight drives and, in the process, tied Drew Brees’ Big Ten record for touchdown passes with 90.
Barrett is currently tied for first nationally with 21 touchdown passes with West Virginia's Will Grier. He also has the best touchdown-to-interception ratio of 21 to 1 among those with at least 15 scoring passes and he ranks fourth nationally in passing efficiency at 173.8. This put him bqck into the thick of the Heisman conversation.
Big Ten Offensive Player of the Week
The Davy O'Brian National QB of the Week
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2017 20:15:26 GMT -5
Then wouldn't you be a little short sided in promoting JT's records because someone blocked for him on every play, someone caught every pass and ran for most of those yards and scored most of his TD's that HE is being given credit for. When the line plays well, JT gets all the credit. When JT over throws a pass, the line failed to protect him? Oh, but I agree with you, when the offense is clicking & humming along in rhythm, it's because his support people are doing their jobs well and they deserve full credit. They all depend on each other. So you do feel it is all about JT. Credit and blame must go evenly to a player. He gets all the awards, records and press time, he must also shoulder the blame when things go poorly. It comes with the position. Ask anyone who has played the position.
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Post by sportsjock on Oct 17, 2017 22:24:07 GMT -5
Oh, but I agree with you, when the offense is clicking & humming along in rhythm, it's because his support people are doing their jobs well and they deserve full credit. They all depend on each other. So you do feel it is all about JT. Credit and blame must go evenly to a player. He gets all the awards, records and press time, he must also shoulder the blame when things go poorly. It comes with the position. Ask anyone who has played the position. Perhaps you have a poor understanding of the game. When our QB receives conference and national recognition for his outstanding performance, it is a direct reflection on the players surrounding him. When the offense plays dismally, it is a reflection on the QB and all those around him as well.
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Post by sportsjock on Oct 17, 2017 22:43:34 GMT -5
J.T. Barrett IV had a prolific performance Against the Cornhuskers, completing 27 of 33 passes for 325 yards and five touchdowns. He also rushed for 48 yards on 10 carries and two more scores, tying his own school-record of seven touchdowns responsible for in a game before exiting the contest in the fourth quarter. He led the Buckeyes to touchdowns on their first eight drives and, in the process, tied Drew Brees’ Big Ten record for touchdown passes with 90. Barrett is currently tied for first nationally with 21 touchdown passes with West Virginia's Will Grier. He also has the best touchdown-to-interception ratio of 21 to 1 among those with at least 15 scoring passes and he ranks fourth nationally in passing efficiency at 173.8. This put him bqck into the thick of the Heisman conversation. Big Ten 'Offensive Player of the Week'
The Davy O'Brian 'National QB of the Week'Add this to the list for his sterling performance this week: Earl Campbell Tyler Rose Award 'National Player of the Week'
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2017 6:10:10 GMT -5
So you do feel it is all about JT. Credit and blame must go evenly to a player. He gets all the awards, records and press time, he must also shoulder the blame when things go poorly. It comes with the position. Ask anyone who has played the position. Perhaps you have a poor understanding of the game. When our QB receives conference and national recognition for his outstanding performance, it is a direct reflection on the players surrounding him. When the offense plays dismally, it is a reflection on the QB and all those around him as well. Perhaps you just don't understand that it is possible for JT to play poorly and it not be anyone's fault but his own. In every game I watch I see a lineman miss or a WR stumble or a TE drop a pass or a RB miss a block and a QB get sacked. But yet we can still win if our QB does his job. I am a firm believer in team wins and team losses, but players make mistakes. Lots of football to play and I'm cheering for the best, but don't questions someone's intelligence because they do not agree with you. Leave that to someone else.
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Post by sportsjock on Oct 18, 2017 8:04:46 GMT -5
Perhaps you have a poor understanding of the game. When our QB receives conference and national recognition for his outstanding performance, it is a direct reflection on the players surrounding him. When the offense plays dismally, it is a reflection on the QB and all those around him as well. Perhaps you just don't understand that it is possible for JT to play poorly and it not be anyone's fault but his own. In every game I watch I see a lineman miss or a WR stumble or a TE drop a pass or a RB miss a block and a QB get sacked. But yet we can still win if our QB does his job. I am a firm believer in team wins and team losses, but players make mistakes. Lots of football to play and I'm cheering for the best, but don't questions someone's intelligence because they do not agree with you. Leave that to someone else. Granted, J.T.'s scrambling abilities can buy him more time when blocking and protection breaks down and receivers are covered, but his feet can only extend a play so much. This year, our QB has been up to the task. He's doing exactly what coaches want from their QB, game management, keep turnovers to a minimum and move the football. Believe me, when I say I appreciate all your expression of thoughts, some of which we love to debate. I don't question your intelligence.
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Post by tommygunn on Oct 18, 2017 8:27:30 GMT -5
To say that the entire team played bad vs OK is wrong. The D kept us in the game quite often, until it was apparent JT couldn't hit a barn when he was pressured. I think any avg. qb could throw for 5 TD's against a poopy Nebraska D who gave JT literally 7-8 seconds to throw the ball nearly every single time.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 18, 2017 9:14:02 GMT -5
Go back and watch the Oklahoma game again, just don't run your mouth without doing your home work. The Ohio State defense held Oklahoma to 27 of 38 passing for 387 yards!?!. AND that was with 89 yards of penalties, most of which were pass interference and holding penalties by the secondary. There were receivers running wild, wide open all over the field the entire game. You call that good defense?? You're flunking out again.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2017 10:06:50 GMT -5
Perhaps you just don't understand that it is possible for JT to play poorly and it not be anyone's fault but his own. In every game I watch I see a lineman miss or a WR stumble or a TE drop a pass or a RB miss a block and a QB get sacked. But yet we can still win if our QB does his job. I am a firm believer in team wins and team losses, but players make mistakes. Lots of football to play and I'm cheering for the best, but don't questions someone's intelligence because they do not agree with you. Leave that to someone else. Granted, J.T.'s scrambling abilities can buy him more time when blocking and protection breaks down and receivers are covered, but his feet can only extend a play so much. This year, our QB has been up to the task. He's doing exactly what coaches want from their QB, game management, keep turnovers to a minimum and move the football. Believe me, when I say I appreciate all your expression of thoughts, some of which we love to debate. I don't question your intelligence. I enjoy the exchanges. To me this is all good fun discussions like friends sitting on a pub stool talking sports.
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Post by sportsjock on Oct 18, 2017 16:25:30 GMT -5
Granted, J.T.'s scrambling abilities can buy him more time when blocking and protection breaks down and receivers are covered, but his feet can only extend a play so much. This year, our QB has been up to the task. He's doing exactly what coaches want from their QB, game management, keep turnovers to a minimum and move the football. Believe me, when I say I appreciate all your expression of thoughts, some of which we love to debate. I don't question your intelligence. I enjoy the exchanges. To me this is all good fun discussions like friends sitting on a pub stool talking sports. Amen, brother........ I have no doubt, I could certainly enjoy a couple cold ones with most of you guys, talking and arguing sports....lol
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Post by DrTorch on Oct 18, 2017 16:33:08 GMT -5
Go back and watch the Oklahoma game again, just don't run your mouth without doing your home work. The Ohio State defense held Oklahoma to 27 of 38 passing for 387 yards!?!. AND that was with 89 yards of penalties, most of which were pass interference and holding penalties by the secondary. There were receivers running wild, wide open all over the field the entire game. You call that good defense?? You're flunking out again. i dunno boss, maybe they were a little worn down after JT 3-out couldn't buy them some time to rest wrs run wild when defenders tire, on the line and in the 2ndary, it's why people covet depth and you know, at least average qb play
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Post by sportsjock on Oct 18, 2017 18:56:52 GMT -5
Go back and watch the Oklahoma game again, just don't run your mouth without doing your home work. The Ohio State defense held Oklahoma to 27 of 38 passing for 387 yards!?!. AND that was with 89 yards of penalties, most of which were pass interference and holding penalties by the secondary. There were receivers running wild, wide open all over the field the entire game. You call that good defense?? You're flunking out again. i dunno boss, maybe they were a little worn down after JT 3-out couldn't buy them some time to rest wrs run wild when defenders tire, on the line and in the 2ndary, it's why people covet depth and you know, at least average qb play Oklahoma had an entire year to think of the embarrassment of being humiliated and dominated on nationwide television by the Buckeyes. They came in focused, motivated and inspired, while the Buckeyes approached it as just the next game in their scripted season that will reward them at year's end. Heck, Vegas had them a couple TD favorites. Oklahoma hasn't been that good since, Ohio State hasn't been that bad since. There wasn't much positive to take from that game and certainly nothing to throw our QB out with yesterdays garbage. The Buckeyes have been on an obvious course of continuous improvement ever since. The Penn State/Ohio State games promises to have a 'game of the year' magnitude.
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Post by DrTorch on Oct 18, 2017 19:06:54 GMT -5
if twice is a trend where are we at with JT now?
we LOST to MICHIGAN STATE at HOME to a backup QB after we benched an UNDEFEATED STARTER who had WON A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP for us and BEAT ALABAMA
we got shutout by Clemson...do you remember the term CLEMSONING? WE HELPED MAKE THAT TERM OBSOLETE.
I need a little more than juicing up on a Nebraska but hey, if JT has turned a corner that is awesome. I just need a little more convincing. We will see soon. We catch a break finally in that we have a BYE before the PSU game instead of them having a BYE before us, like they have had for 2 years in a row.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 18, 2017 19:33:32 GMT -5
Go back and watch the Oklahoma game again, just don't run your mouth without doing your home work. The Ohio State defense held Oklahoma to 27 of 38 passing for 387 yards!?!. AND that was with 89 yards of penalties, most of which were pass interference and holding penalties by the secondary. There were receivers running wild, wide open all over the field the entire game. You call that good defense?? You're flunking out again. i dunno boss, maybe they were a little worn down after JT 3-out couldn't buy them some time to rest wrs run wild when defenders tire, on the line and in the 2ndary, it's why people covet depth and you know, at least average qb play Underling, I DO know. You haven't done your homework either. Would you believe me when I tell you that Oklahoma only ran THREE more offensive plays than Ohio State? You're gonna have fabricate another stat to further your cause OR at least do a teeny bit of homework.
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Post by 4 on Oct 18, 2017 22:05:04 GMT -5
Any way look at it, JT hater or not. He’s playing at high level. I’ll buy into it more if does well agaisnt penn st.
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