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Post by portwalk on Mar 9, 2018 19:01:21 GMT -5
My point. Who isn't happy with the N10 except for Coach Sheldon and Upper football, but like I said Upper isn't winning football in any league anytime soon. The N10 is fine, no debate. Doesn't mean that the bottom of the league isn't really bad. 83, 88, 106, 110, 118, 125, 127, 168, 207 Sesame Street question, which one doesn't belong? I'm just tired of Upper people, not necessarily on here but around Wyandot County, pounding there chests about how mighty their basketball dynasty is, and trust me it is happening. They have had some serious talent in the past 5 years, both boys and girls. Talent that would have won the old NOL most years. So winning the N10, really, get a grip. Win a district against teams your own size. This is the point and is just not right they would NOT have won the NOL that's why with all that talent when they played teams their own size D2/D3 they failed to win a District title. The N10 did not prepare them JMO
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Post by jjmcomb on Mar 9, 2018 19:45:26 GMT -5
Considering they beat every former NOL school the past 3 years except for Shelby this year, not sure how you can be so sure on that port.
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Post by sweathog on Mar 9, 2018 20:32:54 GMT -5
Just heard CC Central Catholic lost to St Pete! Good game for both recruiting schools!!! That's all I will say!!!
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 9, 2018 20:33:53 GMT -5
Can't think of a single comment I have made about any player on this site or the prior one... They are HS kids AH HA!! Thus you admit to insulting leagues, teams and individuals. BTW, every league and team is comprised of HS kids, think about it. JMHO
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Post by jjmcomb on Mar 9, 2018 21:02:09 GMT -5
Thanks for clarifying that these are high school kids, didn't realize that. Not at any time have I or most on here rip on a kid.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 9, 2018 21:20:34 GMT -5
Considering they beat every former NOL school the past 3 years except for Shelby this year, not sure how you can be so sure on that port. Don't you mean they beat the former NOL schools that they PLAYED? It's called selective scheduling. Outside of Shelby they scheduled the 3 weakest NOL teams. They didn't have Norwalk and Sandusky on their schedule and would not play Ontario. JMHO
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 9, 2018 21:21:46 GMT -5
Thanks for clarifying that these are high school kids, didn't realize that. Not at any time have I or most on here rip on a kid. Pay attention! You are not portwalk. JMHO
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 9, 2018 21:30:58 GMT -5
They have had some serious talent in the past 5 years, both boys and girls. Talent that would have won the old NOL most years. So winning the N10, really, get a grip. Win a district against teams your own size. Do a little research. In the past 5 years "they" have NOT had the talent to win the NOL most years. JMHO
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 9, 2018 21:39:17 GMT -5
... Either the N10 is not as bad as some thought or the whole area is down with them since they have advanced and had higher seeded teams. Yes to both. I do not believe the N10 is worse off than other leagues of its size in the area, nor do I believe that this is a very strong year for teams in the area when comparing to across the state. I don't think there are many teams (aside from Mans. St. Peters in D4) inside the I71-US30-I75 belt area — North Central Ohio — who will make a state run. This would take one heck of a lot of research, so this is off the top of my coconut. If "make a state run" means making it to Columbus, then that is a rarity in North Central Ohio. You have to go back to the St. Pete glory days and the Haas era to find programs that made multiple "runs". Since those years, a "state run" around here happens about once every 5 years or so on average. JMHO
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Post by jjmcomb on Mar 9, 2018 21:47:40 GMT -5
What "research" do you want me to do. I don't think there's any "research" out there that will tell anyone the answer to that. Sandusky and Ontario are not part of the old NOL either, they were the new NOL.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 9, 2018 22:08:53 GMT -5
You said QUOTE: "serious talent the past 5 years". JUST in the "past 5 years" it wasn't "serious" enough talent to win an NOL title. Not against Norwalk, Sandusky and Ontario. Who WERE in the NOL "the past 5 years". Without knowledge, it's just bloviating.
Further back?? "They" weren't going to beat any Haas or Nossaman teams, weren't going to beat any Faulkner Bellevue teams. Heck, they weren't even going to beat Wynford and Ontario in the NCC, Who won 90% of the titles going back to the 1990's.
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Post by jjmcomb on Mar 9, 2018 22:44:09 GMT -5
I'll agree to disagree with you on this. Upper has had some very good talent lately. I'm not claiming to be an NOL expert like you are with all of your "research ", I was just making a point that Upper has had talented teams lately. I apologize for roughling your feathers.
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Post by bigox on Mar 10, 2018 9:40:01 GMT -5
Congrats to the Mohawk Warriors on their district win! Nice win for a program that hasn't had a lot of history of success.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 10, 2018 21:20:15 GMT -5
I'll agree to disagree with you on this. Upper has had some very good talent lately. I'm not claiming to be an NOL expert like you are with all of your "research ", I was just making a point that Upper has had talented teams lately. I apologize for roughling your feathers. Not a bird, no feathers. AGREE, Upper has had some talent, even post Diebler. Be a realist. There's a website that has a treasure trove of information. If you have a desire to become learned outside your HS basketball backyard....... Google "North Central Ohio Basketball" and enjoy. JMHO
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 10, 2018 21:41:05 GMT -5
What "research" do you want me to do. I don't think there's any "research" out there that will tell anyone the answer to that. Sandusky and Ontario are not part of the old NOL either, they were the new NOL. AGAIN, you were talking about Upper the "past 5 years", making comparisons with the NOL. Sandusky and Ontario WERE in the NOL during the past 5 years. Upper would have had a difficult time beating them. None of the Upper teams of the past 5 years would have beaten Norwalk teams when they had 2 DI caliber players. ALSO if you want to talk about the "old NOL". Are you knowledgeable about the Willard's Hass and Nossaman teams? Are you knowledgeable about the Falknor Bellevue teams? Heck the Upper teams of the past 5 years couldn't come close to beating "old NOL" Upper Diebler teams. Do the research. Not only would the Upper teams of the past 5 years not been able to compete against those "old NOL" programs, they would have had a very difficult time competing against the "old NCC" Wynford and Ontario teams that were dominate back to the 1990's. Do the research. JMHO
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2018 8:43:23 GMT -5
jj, nobody knows how past teams would compete with current or other teams that they never played. Upsets happen and different coaches prepare for opponents in unique ways. On the right court, with the right officials on the right night, the recent Upper Sandusky teams could compete with teams of the past. I wouldn’t guarantee a win but they I think they would have a chance.
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Post by bigox on Mar 11, 2018 21:51:35 GMT -5
Statistics show that the past three years Upper team's would have done just fine against the NOL in that same span. I'd be skeptical going back 5 years. Wish they still were in a league with good rivalry with those schools. But ppg. percentages and defensive numbers even against "lowly" n10 teams compared to NOL teams really do show they'd run with the "big dogs." Even if you cut their numbers to suggest they were playing supposed better competition in the NOL they still average ppg. that ranks in the top of the league of the NOL. Defensive ppg. numbers are just as good. You guys are right. The NCOB is a great site. 😎😎
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Post by bigox on Mar 11, 2018 22:01:46 GMT -5
Congrats to the Carey Blue Devils and a school record district championship. Next game will be an uphill challenge. But hey it's high school basketball in March and ya never know how kids will respond to challenges. This is the same group of kids who took out Wynford in playoff football and nobody outside of Carey believed that would happen.
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Post by Hagen on Mar 12, 2018 7:44:23 GMT -5
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Post by Hagen on Mar 12, 2018 8:36:04 GMT -5
... Carey ... took out Wynford in playoff football and nobody outside of Carey believed that would happen. The votes were 10-3 Wynford for the poll on this site. Maybe all 3 were from Carey though... Week 11: Carey (7) @ Wynford (2)
- usramfan in particular took Carey in said discussion. Someone check his address.
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Post by bigox on Mar 12, 2018 9:29:22 GMT -5
... Carey ... took out Wynford in playoff football and nobody outside of Carey believed that would happen. The votes were 10-3 Wynford for the poll on this site. Maybe all 3 were from Carey though... Week 11: Carey (7) @ Wynford (2)
- usramfan in particular took Carey in said discussion. Someone check his address.
Maybe has ties with Carey 😎😎. $$📚🍎
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Post by jmorgret07 on Mar 13, 2018 18:39:56 GMT -5
Mohawk 7-7-9-8 - 31 Pandora-Gilboa 10-7-16-17 - 50
Mohawk (19-7): 11-39 FG, 7-11 FT, 2-10 3pt (Hammer, A. Tusing), 22 rebounds (Jenkins 5), 13 turnovers. Scoring: Keith Jenkins 2 1-1 5, Kaiden Hammer 2 1-2 6, Zach Hayman 4 5-8 13, Ryan Lacey 0 0-0 0, Chris Klopp 0 0-0 0, Tyler Tusing 0 0-0 0, Austin Tusing 2 0-0 5, Cam Shellhouse 1 0-0 2, Kedryk Leeth 0 0-0 0.
Pandora-Gilboa (25-1): 18-36 FG, 13-16 FT, 1-10 3pt (Larcom), 29 rebounds (Johnson, Phillips 7), 14 turnovers. Scoring: Jared Breese 3 1-1 7, Cooper McCullough 2 6-6 10, Drew Johnson 3 3-5 9, Riley Larcom 6 1-1 14, Eli Phillips 2 1-2 5, Chase Huffman 0 0-0 0, Josh Wauters 0 0-0 0, Ryan Lee 1 1-1 3, Cole Schwab 1 0-0 2, Grant Murphy 0 0-0 0.
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Post by jmorgret07 on Mar 14, 2018 18:44:51 GMT -5
Africentric 25-12-14-11 - 62 Casey 15-6-5-14 - 40
Africentric (20-6): 28-51 FG, 4-12 FT, 2-9 3pt (Baumgardner, Bennet), 33 rebounds (Hodge 8), 14 turnovers. Scoring: Dorian Holloway 2 0-0 4, Tre Baumgardner 7 0-4 15, James Hodge 4 0-0 8, Calija'Won Davis 1 0-0 2, Tre Bennet 9 2-2 21, Deondre Lunsford-Ros 0 0-0 0, Alvin Glover 0 0-0 0, Anthony Bowman 2 0-0 4, John Figueroa 0 0-2 0, Stephen Greathouse 0 0-0 0, Austin Morris 0 0-0 0, Elijahjuan Burke 1 0-0 2, Lyheen Hilliard 2 0-0 4, Hervon Jacobs 0 2-2 2.
Carey (20-7): 12-37 FG, 10-14 FT, 6-16 3pt (Smiley 2, Wentling, Bame, Luzader, Billock), 21 rebounds (Stone 6), 20 turnovers. Scoring: Brayden Wentling 1 1-2 4, Trey Bame 1 0-0 3, Hayden Stone 1 1-3 3, Cody Luzader 1 6-7 9, Griffin Summit 2 2-2 6, Jordan Littlejohn 0 0-0 0, Austin Hertel 0 0-0 0, Jordan Dasher 2 0-0 4, Logan Smiley 2 0-0 6, Evan Plott 0 0-0 0, Casey Crawford 1 0-0 2, Adam Hackworth 0 0-0 0, Chaz Ropp 0 0-0 0, Isaiah Hoepf 0 0-0 0, Reece Billock 1 0-0 3.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2018 21:29:22 GMT -5
I did notice the state powerhouse, Vinton County, only won one game in tournament.
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Post by Hagen on Mar 15, 2018 7:28:19 GMT -5
I did notice the state powerhouse, Vinton County, only won one game in tournament. They lost to the #4 team in the state, Proctorville Fairland (22-3), in the district semifinal. Fairland made the D3 final 4 last year & lost to the eventual state champs, Cleveland VASJ. Link: < Athens D2 Regional> Link: < Game Recap>
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2018 9:05:16 GMT -5
AP Poll rankings are like stories about grandkids. If they are yours they are great, if they are not the value is much much less.
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Post by Hagen on Mar 19, 2018 9:04:15 GMT -5
They lost to the #4 team in the state, Proctorville Fairland (22-3), in the district semifinal. Fairland made the D3 final 4 last year & lost to the eventual state champs, Cleveland VASJ. AP Poll rankings are like stories about grandkids. If they are yours they are great, if they are not the value is much much less. You're right. The #4 team getting to the final 4 completely invalidates their season.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2018 12:12:47 GMT -5
You're right. The #4 team getting to the final 4 completely invalidates their season. I am not invalidating anyone's season. I'm only saying the AP polls have value if you want them to. If anyone has done some traveling to watch games they would know being undefeated does not make a team #1 best team in the state. Other wise #1 St Pete would not have gotten smacked around all game by #9 Cornerstone. No intent of taking any success away from any team.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 19, 2018 21:36:14 GMT -5
You are ALWAYS invalidating someone or something. It's a personality defect.
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