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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 16:07:32 GMT -5
Thank god they are D2 next season. Theres no way of knowing that until next year. First they set the enrollment number and then your cb number...every year. This years numbers mean nothing for next season.
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Post by 4th & 1 on Nov 15, 2017 17:23:36 GMT -5
Thank god they are D2 next season. Theres no way of knowing that until next year. First they set the enrollment number and then your cb number...every year. This years numbers mean nothing for next season. This years numbers mean everything for next season. Roster data will be used in arrears so 2017-18 data is used for 2018-19.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 17:53:09 GMT -5
Theres no way of knowing that until next year. First they set the enrollment number and then your cb number...every year. This years numbers mean nothing for next season. This years numbers mean everything for next season. Roster data will be used in arrears so 2017-18 data is used for 2018-19. ohsaa.org/school-resources/school-enrollmentMy explanation wasn't correct, but it's the number they collected from the schools on February 6, 2017 that are being used this year and next year. They new CB number will be added in April determining the 2018 divisions. TCC student enrollment number is 235. That's way to low to be a base D3 and since you can only be moved up one division do to you CB The Irish will firmly be in Region 10 next year
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Post by deathfromabove on Nov 16, 2017 22:01:57 GMT -5
What is considered TCC's district? The city of Toledo or the public high school area (Scott HS) that TCC is located in? If it is Scott HS district, then just about all the students would be from out of the district. Observer: I think that at one time a couple of years ago a student or two from Woodmore High transfer to TCC so I think that they could go about that far east maybe down to BG, south and I can't begin to imagine how far west and north. But it wouldn't surprise me if they could and would get them from anywhere.
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Post by kritz on Nov 17, 2017 14:12:56 GMT -5
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 17, 2017 15:15:28 GMT -5
The problem with the CB adder is that it does NOTHING to discourage a school already in DI. They can't be punished by moving them up a Division. There is no Division higher than DI.
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Post by 4th & 1 on Nov 17, 2017 15:16:54 GMT -5
Conducting this in a two-step process is necessary to ensure that schools will be limited to moving up a maximum of one division from what they would have been assigned when looking strictly at the EMIS number. When looking at Year 2of the two-year cycle, a school could move up a division from its previous year’s Adjusted Enrollment Count if it did not move up a division the previous year. However, schools will be limited to moving up one division only from their original EMIS numbers during the two-year cycle. ohsaa.org/Portals/0/SchoolResources/CompetitiveBalance/SummaryPacket082416.pdf
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Post by kritz on Nov 18, 2017 2:06:06 GMT -5
^So TCC stays in region 10 1 more year like Hoss said?
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Post by clydesbcfan on Nov 18, 2017 7:36:02 GMT -5
I am pretty sure that this situation is going to be looked into (or already has). I do not think that the OHSAA figured prior to this that no team would jump two divisions when the numbers were added.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 7:58:08 GMT -5
I am pretty sure that this situation is going to be looked into (or already has). I do not think that the OHSAA figured prior to this that no team would jump two divisions when the numbers were added. This wouldn’t be an issue if the OHSAA hadnt made a rule that you can only move one division
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Post by 1percenter on Nov 18, 2017 8:17:42 GMT -5
CB is wrong to use, TCC should be in d4 where their enrollment says they should be not D3 or D2 like you guys want them to be. TCC has a smaller enrollment than Bellevue and Shelby. TCC should have gotten to beat Bellevue 70-0 in the opening round of the playoffs and then spank Shelby 56-0 last night. It's a total travesty that tiny TCC was forced to move to D3 while bigger schools like Bellevue and Shelby get to remain in D4. Let's face the facts, private schools develop their athletes better and train harder than public schools. All of you thinking TCC needs bumped up 2 divisions and then 3 divisions are just jealous. TCC enrollment is d4 and you private-phobes used your hatred of private schools to bump them up to d3. You should all feel ashamed. [/end sarcasm]
You are correct bighoss the OHSAA shouldn't have made that rule. I bet a public school with that many outsiders playing on their team would have gotten a lifetime ban from competing in OHSAA tournaments. TCC has an enrollment of 235. Competitive Balance added 220. They DOUBLED their enrollment. Bellevue & Shelby each added 6 with CB, TCC added 220.
Now we see how all the Football Powerhouses have won through the years. (Like we didn't already know) Toledo Central Catholic +220 with CB Toledo St Francis DeSales +149 with CB Cleveland Benedictine +136 with CB Akron Archbishop Hoban +134 with CB Cuyahoga Falls Walsh Jesuit +131 with CB ^^^ They where busy knocking Bellevue out of the playoffs with +6. Those schools were always 1 or 2 divisions bigger than the division they got to play in.
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