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Post by gatesofbabylon25 on May 5, 2018 23:05:15 GMT -5
BV heading to the new league probably had something to do with it. I’ve heard, from a credible source, BV is expected to lose a few more because of the league change as well. At least BV has Summer things planned. P is heading into Summer with nothing from the last coach. Must have been terrible applicants if they’re reaching out to someone else during the final interviews. Happens everywhere. Well with no coach summer plans will probably change. Gast isn't leaving so don't know what other coaches you mean. New league travel no further than Shelby,Ont or CF. New team in league will probably be from North so it's really not going to be the MOAC.
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Post by valley24 on May 6, 2018 0:45:06 GMT -5
Wow. Didn’t know bb is the only sport at BV and gast is the only other coach.
As for Summer plans, you stated above you were going to help. Why don’t you get in and lead lifting and do what you can until they hire someone?
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Post by lineitup1 on May 6, 2018 6:26:37 GMT -5
Wow. Didn’t know bb is the only sport at BV and gast is the only other coach. As for Summer plans, you stated above you were going to help. Why don’t you get in and lead lifting and do what you can until they hire someone? I don’t see any other coaches leaving cause of league. Bottom line it’s closer then the MOAC schools right now and better fit for them. I’m sure Gates would get them in gym and weight room but not sure if all schools are the same but never seen BV allow a parent to run the summer program! It was a complete shock to our community after giving the young BV grad the shot for Varsity experience. If you read my comments from this year, I pumped his name a lot! All I can say is we are highly disappointed in this decision to leave us at this point but I’ve been told he believes it was best thing for him right now. If that is case then he’s perfect fit for Pleasant! Games this next year will be fun for sure! I’m out with Sr for girls but will skip a boys game for these games if need be. Hopefully BV can fill position quickly! Kinda late in game to find someone loyal but maybe we can get lucky!
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Post by gatesofbabylon25 on May 6, 2018 6:56:46 GMT -5
Wow. Didn’t know bb is the only sport at BV and gast is the only other coach. As for Summer plans, you stated above you were going to help. Why don’t you get in and lead lifting and do what you can until they hire someone? BB isn't the only sport but football coach and AD are tight. Just hired Baseball coach and he coached with the AD so he's not leaving. So like I said don't see any coaches leaving. I will be doing whatever JV coach needs me to do to help her out. I have reached out to some parents letting them know their girls are more than welcome to join my daughter and I this summer when train. I'm sure girls will be fine, and will succeed despite what they have been through.
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Post by gatesofbabylon25 on May 29, 2018 16:11:07 GMT -5
Have heard BV has had up to 40 apply for girls job, can't believe that many would apply this late in the process. But I like 3 that I know have applied and hope BV gets one of them before July. Hear Marysville is set to hire girls coach tomorrow. A familiar name may get that job.
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Post by gatesofbabylon25 on Jun 1, 2018 15:57:14 GMT -5
Sounds like BV has a new coach. Just in time for the June camps
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Post by rrballer on Jun 2, 2018 14:58:19 GMT -5
Mike Daniels is the new coach at BV. Previously at Olentangy.
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Post by gatesofbabylon25 on Jun 2, 2018 15:34:05 GMT -5
Daniels is the new BV coach. So Travis coached one yr at BV then leaves his alma mater to go to pleasant. Daniels puts in for Pleasant job, his alma mater and doesn't get the job. Should be at least 2 fun games this year:)
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Post by gatesofbabylon25 on Jun 13, 2018 17:11:55 GMT -5
BV will be going to Baldwin Wallace for a shootout Friday and camp at Findlay Monday and Tuesday. Girls get to work with new JV coach while coach is on vacation
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Post by ohioraised on Jun 14, 2018 7:12:58 GMT -5
New Clear Fork coach, Randy Pore, was previously the boys jv coach.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2018 8:23:46 GMT -5
New Clear Fork coach, Randy Pore, was previously the boys jv coach. I had been told the former player Delaney was going to get this job. Was that not true or did they change their minds?
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Post by gatesofbabylon25 on Jun 16, 2018 20:37:48 GMT -5
BV played alright at shootout at Baldwin Wallace Friday going 3-2. Lost twice to St Joes. Elyria Catholic was best team there. BV will be young with half the team being sophmores
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Post by gt1975 on Jul 13, 2018 12:01:42 GMT -5
Galion is now looking for a new coach.
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Post by basketballfan on Jul 13, 2018 17:57:14 GMT -5
Galion is now looking for a new coach. What happen to Galions Coach??? Anyone know?
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Post by galion on Jul 14, 2018 8:40:16 GMT -5
I still don't understand how his contract got renewed in the first damn place.
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Post by hookshot on Jul 14, 2018 15:51:24 GMT -5
I still don't understand how his contract got renewed in the first damn place. Do you really think anyone else would have done any better with the talent or lack there of at Galion. Nobody would make that train wreck any better. And from what I seen there is nothing coming up to help whomever they get now to coach
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Post by galion on Jul 14, 2018 17:44:22 GMT -5
I still don't understand how his contract got renewed in the first damn place. Do you really think anyone else would have done any better with the talent or lack there of at Galion. Nobody would make that train wreck any better. And from what I seen there is nothing coming up to help whomever they get now to coach Yes
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Post by gt1975 on Jul 14, 2018 19:54:30 GMT -5
Do you really think anyone else would have done any better with the talent or lack there of at Galion. Nobody would make that train wreck any better. And from what I seen there is nothing coming up to help whomever they get now to coach Yes I hate when people use the lack of roster talent to defend a coach. Just because a roster doesn't have a bunch of talent doesn't mean the coach isn't bad. You know a well coached team when you see one, regardless of the talent.
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Post by gt1975 on Jul 14, 2018 20:02:16 GMT -5
I still don't understand how his contract got renewed in the first damn place. I agree, 11-58 (0-40 MOAC) in 3 seasons with a decline in wins every year. The AD recommended to renew the contract and the BOE approved, so these would be the people that made the decision. Our boys coach can go too, 11-35 in 2 seasons and a huge drop in the number of players in the program.
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Post by galion on Jul 15, 2018 3:42:48 GMT -5
The sad part is that so far as quality girls athletes go Galion might be in the best shape they've ever been in. The girls tennis, vball, and track teams were all MOAC champs. The girls softball team made the sweet 16. But there's just no talent at Galion. The lack of talent on the roster was his own damn fault. He's the one who drove the quality athletes that he did have away. Hell, I had a front row seat to most of it. He had little to no interest in his feeder programs. I don't know how he planned to build a program like that. I'm not even going to get into x's and o's because that was too embarrassing to even talk about.
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Post by hookshot on Jul 15, 2018 10:47:57 GMT -5
I hate when people use the lack of roster talent to defend a coach. Just because a roster doesn't have a bunch of talent doesn't mean the coach isn't bad. You know a well coached team when you see one, regardless of the talent. Eye test these past 3 years and even before that is that Galions girls program is not good. Hell the team they took to Toledo to the summer shootouts there only managed to score 17 points total on the day through 4 games. So tell me there's any talent. Hard to coach a team when the point guards can't even get the ball past half court.
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Post by hookshot on Jul 15, 2018 11:06:55 GMT -5
The sad part is that so far as quality girls athletes go Galion might be in the best shape they've ever been in. The girls tennis, vball, and track teams were all MOAC champs. The girls softball team made the sweet 16. But there's just no talent at Galion. The lack of talent on the roster was his own damn fault. He's the one who drove the quality athletes that he did have away. Hell, I had a front row seat to most of it. He had little to no interest in his feeder programs. I don't know how he planned to build a program like that. I'm not even going to get into x's and o's because that was too embarrassing to even talk about. Basketball talent is different than tennis or softball.. You speak of little or no interest in the feeder system. If it wasnt for him and the guy that runs the Mystics AAU program that youth program that you say is non existent wouldn't have existed at all. And to that what was in the "feeder" system went with zero wins the past two years in both age groups. In fact failed to score a single basket in many of their games. So yes I too had a front row seat to the train wreck that was Galions girls program from 5th grade all the way to varsity. Yeah he didn't do a good job but absolutely believe that there is no way anyone would have done much better. Nor will they for a long time to come
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Post by rrballer on Jul 15, 2018 13:12:34 GMT -5
I watched Galion lose to Fredericktown by 50 plus in June at MVNU. Fredericktown is also currently low on the talent pool. I thought it was going to be a competitive game? After watching the game, I turned to the guy next to me and said, “There is no coach in the world that is going to win with that talent.” Now, I’m sure they were missing some players, as are all teams in the summer months, but I only saw one girl that could dribble consistently. She actually wasn’t half bad. I remember commenting to my Buddy that she could actually be a great player on another team. I’m not from the Galion area, so I don’t know what the “feeder system” looks like, but in today’s game, it takes year-round commitment to stay competitive. Not sure you can put a kid’s commitment level on the coach? There has to be “buy-in” from the player/parents first, because they are the ones that will need to seek opportunities to get better outside of the regular program. How many of the current players play AAU, or attend Skills clinics on their own time. The programs that are successful have a high rate of players that are seeking out these additional opportunities to improve their game. I hope I’m not stepping on anyone’s toes here, and I’m not saying the outgoing coach couldn’t have done some things better..coaches can always do better, but to lay the majority of the blame on him with that talent-pool and the commitment level, may be a little too much.
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Post by galion on Jul 15, 2018 16:08:39 GMT -5
I hate when people use the lack of roster talent to defend a coach. Just because a roster doesn't have a bunch of talent doesn't mean the coach isn't bad. You know a well coached team when you see one, regardless of the talent. Eye test these past 3 years and even before that is that Galions girls program is not good. Hell the team they took to Toledo to the summer shootouts there only managed to score 17 points total on the day through 4 games. So tell me there's any talent. Hard to coach a team when the point guards can't even get the ball past half court. There are other ways to get the ball up the court than just having the guard dribble. It makes it even harder when you refuse to install anything that resembles an offensive system. And even harder still when you insist on playing man to man the virtually the entire game. And so far as talent goes, imagine if he had been a little less rigid and arrogant and had kept Gwinner out after her freshman year among others. Think that might have made a difference to the win loss record? Under ideal conditions could Galion have competed for a MOAC championship? Hell no. But they surely could have beaten or competed with the Fredericktowns and the bottom feeders of the MOAC and other conferences.
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Post by gt1975 on Jul 15, 2018 18:36:23 GMT -5
The talent level wasn't good and the coach wasn't good. But there's no point in keeping a bad coach just because the talent isn't good. That makes no sense. If the coach is bad then get rid of him, regardless of the talent.
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Post by dude on Jul 15, 2018 20:58:28 GMT -5
It is easy to bash the guy that took the job after he fails but can we name the person who applied that would have succeeded? In today's high school coaching world the list of people wanting to be coaches is declining. Specially for unattractive spots.
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Post by galion on Jul 16, 2018 1:43:57 GMT -5
They do have an EXTREMELY qualified candidate in house. Hopefully they can convince her to take the job.
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Post by gatesofbabylon25 on Jul 16, 2018 4:40:32 GMT -5
Eye test these past 3 years and even before that is that Galions girls program is not good. Hell the team they took to Toledo to the summer shootouts there only managed to score 17 points total on the day through 4 games. So tell me there's any talent. Hard to coach a team when the point guards can't even get the ball past half court. There are other ways to get the ball up the court than just having the guard dribble. It makes it even harder when you refuse to install anything that resembles an offensive system. And even harder still when you insist on playing man to man the virtually the entire game. And so far as talent goes, imagine if he had been a little less rigid and arrogant and had kept Gwinner out after her freshman year among others. Think that might have made a difference to the win loss record? Under ideal conditions could Galion have competed for a MOAC championship? Hell no. But they surely could have beaten or competed with the Fredericktowns and the bottom feeders of the MOAC and other conferences. Galion the MOAC bottom feeders were pretty good last yr so it would have been tough for Galion to compete in league. They played BV tough at Galion. They hit like 8-9 3's in that game if my old mind rembers right.
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Post by galion on Jul 16, 2018 7:07:09 GMT -5
Absolutely agree. The Moac has been a very tough conference in girls b Ball the last few years.
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Post by gt1975 on Jul 16, 2018 11:36:33 GMT -5
It is easy to bash the guy that took the job after he fails but can we name the person who applied that would have succeeded? In today's high school coaching world the list of people wanting to be coaches is declining. Specially for unattractive spots. This seems to be your response everytime a bad coach is criticized. He's a bad coach that did a bad job, plain and simple. Should Galion just keep him forever just because he was the best applicant when he applied?? No, he's a bad coach. You get rid of bad coaches once you know they're bad. Also, it depends what you mean by succeeded. If you mean have a winning record then you're right, nobody would have succeeded. But to me he could have "succeeded" by simply improving the program over the last 3 years and developing the players. The program is no better now than it was 3 years ago and the players were not getting better, that is why I don't think he "succeeded". I don't know the whole list of applicants so I can't say that any of the applicants could have succeeded. The only coach I know that applied was a Galion coach and employee. After he was passed over he went to be an assistant at Northmor and was promoted to the Varsity head coach this past season and went 8-15. I'm not saying he should've been hired, that's just the only coach I know that applied.
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