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Post by gt1975 on Jul 16, 2018 11:40:42 GMT -5
They do have an EXTREMELY qualified candidate in house. Hopefully they can convince her to take the job. What about 6th Grade coach??
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Post by galion on Jul 16, 2018 14:36:53 GMT -5
It is easy to bash the guy that took the job after he fails but can we name the person who applied that would have succeeded? In today's high school coaching world the list of people wanting to be coaches is declining. Specially for unattractive spots. OK I'll bite. Actually dude the guy who was trying to defend him made the best case for firing him when he said that at the Toledo summer camp they didn't have 1 single player who could get the ball past half court. That means that after 3 full seasons in his program and/or feeder system they are actually fundamentally inferior than the kids he started out with his first year. Case closed.
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Post by dude on Jul 16, 2018 17:15:01 GMT -5
This seems to be your response everytime a bad coach is criticized. He's a bad coach that did a bad job, plain and simple. Should Galion just keep him forever just because he was the best applicant when he applied?? No, he's a bad coach. You get rid of bad coaches once you know they're bad. Also, it depends what you mean by succeeded. If you mean have a winning record then you're right, nobody would have succeeded. But to me he could have "succeeded" by simply improving the program over the last 3 years and developing the players. The program is no better now than it was 3 years ago and the players were not getting better, that is why I don't think he "succeeded". I don't know the whole list of applicants so I can't say that any of the applicants could have succeeded. The only coach I know that applied was a Galion coach and employee. After he was passed over he went to be an assistant at Northmor and was promoted to the Varsity head coach this past season and went 8-15. I'm not saying he should've been hired, that's just the only coach I know that applied. Do not misunderstand I am not defending anyone here. I was only saying finding fault when it is already been made public is easy. I was asking who you felt should have been hired. Many thing can give coaches a good or a bad record, but sometimes it's just a bad job have.
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Post by dude on Jul 16, 2018 17:22:05 GMT -5
It is easy to bash the guy that took the job after he fails but can we name the person who applied that would have succeeded? In today's high school coaching world the list of people wanting to be coaches is declining. Specially for unattractive spots. OK I'll bite. Actually dude the guy who was trying to defend him made the best case for firing him when he said that at the Toledo summer camp they didn't have 1 single player who could get the ball past half court. That means that after 3 full seasons in his program and/or feeder system they are actually fundamentally inferior than the kids he started out with his first year. Case closed. Again I am not defending anyone just trying to get thoughts on a replacement instead of contributing to the obvious. Doesn't Coach Gossom work in Galion schools?
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Post by gt1975 on Jul 16, 2018 17:57:34 GMT -5
This seems to be your response everytime a bad coach is criticized. He's a bad coach that did a bad job, plain and simple. Should Galion just keep him forever just because he was the best applicant when he applied?? No, he's a bad coach. You get rid of bad coaches once you know they're bad. Also, it depends what you mean by succeeded. If you mean have a winning record then you're right, nobody would have succeeded. But to me he could have "succeeded" by simply improving the program over the last 3 years and developing the players. The program is no better now than it was 3 years ago and the players were not getting better, that is why I don't think he "succeeded". I don't know the whole list of applicants so I can't say that any of the applicants could have succeeded. The only coach I know that applied was a Galion coach and employee. After he was passed over he went to be an assistant at Northmor and was promoted to the Varsity head coach this past season and went 8-15. I'm not saying he should've been hired, that's just the only coach I know that applied. Do not misunderstand I am not defending anyone here. I was only saying finding fault when it is already been made public is easy. I was asking who you felt should have been hired. Many thing can give coaches a good or a bad record, but sometimes it's just a bad job have. I can't speak for galion but I personally don't judge coaches solely on a good or a bad record. A good record doesn't make you a good coach and a bad record doesn't make you a bad coach. Win-loss record isn't the only factor in my evaluation of coaches. IMO, he's just not a good coach.
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Post by gt1975 on Jul 16, 2018 18:16:24 GMT -5
OK I'll bite. Actually dude the guy who was trying to defend him made the best case for firing him when he said that at the Toledo summer camp they didn't have 1 single player who could get the ball past half court. That means that after 3 full seasons in his program and/or feeder system they are actually fundamentally inferior than the kids he started out with his first year. Case closed. Again I am not defending anyone just trying to get thoughts on a replacement instead of contributing to the obvious. Doesn't Coach Gossom work in Galion schools? Yes, Coach Gossom is a teacher at the high school. I don't know whether he's a good coach or not but his career record is atrocious. Like I said in my last post I don't judge coaches based solely on their win-loss record but I only watched his Lucas teams play when they played Galion so his record is pretty much all I have to work with. He coached Lucas Boys 2 seasons (0-42) and coached Crestline Girls 2 seasons (3-41). Career record of 3-83 coaching Varsity basketball. If you look at team records on crawfordcountybasketball.com his two seasons at Lucas were statistically the two worst season in Lucas history. I was told he showed interest in the Galion Boys job when it came open before it was given to Matt Valentine. Galion has another teacher that would probably be a better fit for the position. She has previous experience coaching Girls Varsity and record-wise has done a pretty good job.
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Post by dude on Jul 16, 2018 18:22:42 GMT -5
Do not misunderstand I am not defending anyone here. I was only saying finding fault when it is already been made public is easy. I was asking who you felt should have been hired. Many thing can give coaches a good or a bad record, but sometimes it's just a bad job have. I can't speak for galion but I personally don't judge coaches solely on a good or a bad record. A good record doesn't make you a good coach and a bad record doesn't make you a bad coach. Win-loss record isn't the only factor in my evaluation of coaches. IMO, he's just not a good coach. That's fair. But I still wonder who should have gotten the job instead?
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Post by galion on Jul 16, 2018 22:04:39 GMT -5
At the time of the hire the only other candidate would have been Beachy. That is no longer the case as the former St Petes coach is now available(hopefully). Fingers crossed.
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Post by hookshot on Jul 17, 2018 10:01:17 GMT -5
No defense of anyone here just pointing out the obvious that no matter who was plugged in good coach or bad coach the cupboard at Galion was never and still won't be full enough to get above 3-5 wins a season. That won't change for the next 3-6 years regardless of who coaches. You can get the best coach in the area and it won't help. Maybe I am wrong but I doubt it watched enough to see.
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Post by gt1975 on Jul 17, 2018 11:30:11 GMT -5
Does anybody know why he is resigning?
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Post by dude on Jul 17, 2018 11:42:09 GMT -5
Does anybody know why he is resigning? Due to crazy expectations from community members.
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Post by galion on Jul 18, 2018 3:39:45 GMT -5
No defense of anyone here just pointing out the obvious that no matter who was plugged in good coach or bad coach the cupboard at Galion was never and still won't be full enough to get above 3-5 wins a season. That won't change for the next 3-6 years regardless of who coaches. You can get the best coach in the area and it won't help. Maybe I am wrong but I doubt it watched enough to see. I think that's where your mistaken. He had 3 seasons to improve the skill level of the kids in his program and by any measure the skill level has actually diminished. If they can convince the former St Petes coach to take the job, I think next year at this time you'll be pleasantly surprised. I've had a kid involved in this debacle in some form or other for 11 of the last 14 seasons. Every time they make a change I cross my fingers and keep an open mind and pray that this will be the one. We actually had it for one season. But unfortunately the Upper job opened up and since that's where he lives and teaches he left and took it. Can't fault him for that. But it did show me that the right person doesn't need 3-5 years to turn a program around. The problem is that it has largely been amateur hour here. Regardless of what you think about girls sports or girls basketball in general, it requires the same dedication to detail and understanding of the game to effectively coach it at a varsity level as the boys do. With the exception of that one season we haven't had anything close to that. We have an opportunity to correct that now. Hopefully we can take advantage of it.
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Post by dude on Jul 29, 2018 9:18:06 GMT -5
So have they found one yet? Did crossing your fingers help to pull her away from her current coaching job?
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Post by gt1975 on Jul 30, 2018 14:17:48 GMT -5
So have they found one yet? Did crossing your fingers help to pull her away from her current coaching job? The application deadline is Aug 3.
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Post by gatesofbabylon25 on Aug 1, 2018 15:10:05 GMT -5
Looking at BVs schedule for this yr and it sure looks weird not seeing NU on it. I will miss this rivalry. Only good thing about it is it left open a couple spots in schedule so we are now playing are bigger rival, Delaware Hayes. DH have some talented Sophmore girls and 1 really good freshman so will be a tough test.
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Post by galion on Aug 1, 2018 21:47:51 GMT -5
Though certainly not as tough a test as NU has been lately
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Post by bigox on Aug 5, 2018 14:23:14 GMT -5
Galion find a new coach yet?? August is the dead period so you'd think they would want someone in place by September 1st...
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Post by moacmama on Aug 5, 2018 15:29:17 GMT -5
Looking at BVs schedule for this yr and it sure looks weird not seeing NU on it. I will miss this rivalry. Only good thing about it is it left open a couple spots in schedule so we are now playing are bigger rival, Delaware Hayes. DH have some talented Sophmore girls and 1 really good freshman so will be a tough test. I miss BV too.... Volleyball schedule looks weird but at least Pleasant and Elgin are on it. XC still at Baron Blast this year.
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Post by gt1975 on Aug 11, 2018 13:32:21 GMT -5
They do have an EXTREMELY qualified candidate in house. Hopefully they can convince her to take the job. She did apply and so did the jv coach, Gossom, Senior's assistant from last year, and a couple coaches I don't know.
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Post by basketballfan on Aug 11, 2018 16:15:05 GMT -5
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Post by basketballfan on Aug 11, 2018 16:19:19 GMT -5
They do have an EXTREMELY qualified candidate in house. Hopefully they can convince her to take the job. She did apply and so did the jv coach, Gossom, Senior's assistant from last year, and a couple coaches I don't know. Who is the senior assistant from last year? Boys or girls? Also where was Gossum JV assistant last year??
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Post by galion on Aug 11, 2018 17:54:00 GMT -5
Early is the JV coach from Galion that he was referring to.
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Post by galion on Aug 11, 2018 17:59:47 GMT -5
They do have an EXTREMELY qualified candidate in house. Hopefully they can convince her to take the job. She did apply and so did the jv coach, Gossom, Senior's assistant from last year, and a couple coaches I don't know. That's wonderful news.
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Post by dude on Aug 12, 2018 16:06:47 GMT -5
So what is being said is the applicants are the Ontario jv coach(teaches in Galion), the Galion jv coach( ?), Gossom(teaches in Galion), Mansfield assistant( ?)
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Post by gt1975 on Aug 21, 2018 13:44:52 GMT -5
Galion is hiring Shani Rush. She coached Galion Girls in the early 2000s and also coached St Pete's Girls.
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Post by galion on Aug 21, 2018 15:41:44 GMT -5
Nice
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Post by dude on Aug 21, 2018 22:39:34 GMT -5
Why did she leave Galion the first time?
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Post by gt1975 on Aug 22, 2018 12:28:26 GMT -5
Why did she leave Galion the first time? She was the head coach from 2002-2005. I believe she resigned because she started having kids.
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Post by bigox on Aug 24, 2018 15:06:23 GMT -5
Good luck to the new coach. She has really tried to help out around Galion with the youth program. Now will be her chance to shine. Hope she can maybe turn it around. We shall see what happens.
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Post by gatesofbabylon25 on Sept 3, 2018 7:00:05 GMT -5
BV girls back to work Wednesday. Groups of 4 sessions start next week. Season will be here before you know it.
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