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Post by bballfrenzy on Jan 16, 2018 22:26:18 GMT -5
Shelby 7th over Willard by a lot Shelby 8th over Willard by a lot Willard Middle School Ball is in BAD shape Things looked promising after last 2 games Took a big step backwards tonite just my opinion but that’s a little bit of a knee jerk reaction to one night. If they had been looking promising the last 2 games, don’t let just one night stop that. They’re middle school kids, who knows what they’ll do most nights.
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Post by crimson5 on Jan 16, 2018 22:43:15 GMT -5
Shelby 7th over Willard by a lot Shelby 8th over Willard by a lot Willard Middle School Ball is in BAD shape Things looked promising after last 2 games Took a big step backwards tonite just my opinion but that’s a little bit of a knee jerk reaction to one night. If they had been looking promising the last 2 games, don’t let just one night stop that. They’re middle school kids, who knows what they’ll do most nights. It may be a bit of a "knee jerk reaction", hopefully you are correct, I've been known for those. However, this group of kids (8th) are playing teams they beat/were competitive with last year, and appear to be completely lost this year. Offensive sets are totally out of sink, defensive intensity is non existent, can't defensive rebound, they look defeated (like they don't care) after 5 minutes into the game, I think the entire middle school program is a mess!!!
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Post by moneyball on Jan 17, 2018 1:12:37 GMT -5
just my opinion but that’s a little bit of a knee jerk reaction to one night. If they had been looking promising the last 2 games, don’t let just one night stop that. They’re middle school kids, who knows what they’ll do most nights. It may be a bit of a "knee jerk reaction", hopefully you are correct, I've been known for those. However, this group of kids (8th) are playing teams they beat/were competitive with last year, and appear to be completely lost this year. Offensive sets are totally out of sink, defensive intensity is non existent, can't defensive rebound, they look defeated (like they don't care) after 5 minutes into the game, I think the entire middle school program is a mess!!! There is no doubt that the MS group is not improving. If anyone says there is no talent in 7th-8th grade and that is the reason they are losing, get your head examined. They are only MS kids, please! Most of these 7-8 kids have been playing organized basketball for 4-5-6 years, they know how to play and the fact they have been successful right up until this year tells you they need structure and guidance and it is lacking.
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Post by bballfrenzy on Jan 17, 2018 7:29:42 GMT -5
You misunderstood what I meant by the middle school kids comment. They are 12-14 year old kids, hormones are going nuts, puberty, etc. so they might not always be focused on basketball. Maybe right before a game one of the players’ “girlfriends” breaks up with him and now he’s focusing on that or maybe some of the kids were picking on another teammate so now he’s upset about that, whatever the situation may be. I just meant sometimes middle school kids heads’ are all over the place. Nothing about their basketball abilities.
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Post by moneyball on Jan 17, 2018 12:28:45 GMT -5
You misunderstood what I meant by the middle school kids comment. They are 12-14 year old kids, hormones are going nuts, puberty, etc. so they might not always be focused on basketball. Maybe right before a game one of the players’ “girlfriends” breaks up with him and now he’s focusing on that or maybe some of the kids were picking on another teammate so now he’s upset about that, whatever the situation may be. I just meant sometimes middle school kids heads’ are all over the place. Nothing about their basketball abilities. No, I get it and agree that this is a tough age and kids do have these things going on. But every game they play, doesn't make rational sense. My son said the head coach and jv coach came to practice the other day and ran practice and it was their best practice yet. Not saying these guys are bad guys, they just don't have the knowledge to coach teams like this, they should have started in the elementary level if they had plans to coach at MS or above, later. Two weeks to go so I hope my son can get through this year and next year they'll have a better plan for these MS kids.
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Post by unconcernedcitizen on Jan 17, 2018 14:06:06 GMT -5
Isn't that something. The varsity head coach and assistant came to practice and they had their best practice yet. Obviously thay is to be expected? The kids want to be on their best behavior when the big dogs come out. Well maybe moneyball instead of "getting your kid through the next two weeks" you teach him to show up to practice with the same intensity for his coaches that he would for the varsity coach. But I'm sure that makes too much sense
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 17, 2018 21:44:00 GMT -5
You misunderstood what I meant by the middle school kids comment. They are 12-14 year old kids, hormones are going nuts, puberty, etc. so they might not always be focused on basketball. Maybe right before a game one of the players’ “girlfriends” breaks up with him and now he’s focusing on that or maybe some of the kids were picking on another teammate so now he’s upset about that, whatever the situation may be. I just meant sometimes middle school kids heads’ are all over the place. Nothing about their basketball abilities. Willard Middle school is the only place in the world with these hormones??
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 17, 2018 21:49:03 GMT -5
It may be a bit of a "knee jerk reaction", hopefully you are correct, I've been known for those. However, this group of kids (8th) are playing teams they beat/were competitive with last year, and appear to be completely lost this year. Offensive sets are totally out of sink, defensive intensity is non existent, can't defensive rebound, they look defeated (like they don't care) after 5 minutes into the game, I think the entire middle school program is a mess!!! There is no doubt that the MS group is not improving. If anyone says there is no talent in 7th-8th grade and that is the reason they are losing, get your head examined. They are only MS kids, please! Most of these 7-8 kids have been playing organized basketball for 4-5-6 years, they know how to play and the fact they have been successful right up until this year tells you they need structure and guidance and it is lacking. moneymom, I know you have no interest in any of the basketball teams at Willard other than the one your son plays on. That's ok, that's the way the VAST majority of basketball moms are. Ask around and find out how in the world in the last 2 years of the NOL, Willard's 7th and 8th grade teams finished 1st one year and 2nd another year??
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Post by bballfrenzy on Jan 17, 2018 21:53:37 GMT -5
You misunderstood what I meant by the middle school kids comment. They are 12-14 year old kids, hormones are going nuts, puberty, etc. so they might not always be focused on basketball. Maybe right before a game one of the players’ “girlfriends” breaks up with him and now he’s focusing on that or maybe some of the kids were picking on another teammate so now he’s upset about that, whatever the situation may be. I just meant sometimes middle school kids heads’ are all over the place. Nothing about their basketball abilities. Willard Middle school is the only place in the world with these hormones?? i don’t believe I said it was?
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Post by bgsu07 on Jan 18, 2018 7:54:43 GMT -5
Sandusky 7th grade over Clyde by 9 Sandusky 8th grade hands Clyde 8th grade their first loss since 6th grade. I believe it was by 3 points or so.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 19, 2018 1:22:35 GMT -5
Willard Middle school is the only place in the world with these hormones?? i don’t believe I said it was? It's the first time I've heard of hormones being blamed for a bad record.
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Post by buckeyekid on Jan 19, 2018 5:21:37 GMT -5
I had a chance to watch the Willard 8th yesterday. They were missing their top player because off illness I'm guessing so that affected their team ability to score and get the ball up the court. I'm going to say this group has the look of a team that has about 3 kids who have played a significant amount of hoops. The Paxton boy would make 4. I also kinda think some kids on the team are not there yet from a maturity standpoint. Kids mature and grow at different ages. I'd say there were at least 4 or 5 who had athletic skills, but maybe just haven't played enough basketball to excel on the court. If they stick with it, and it's their passion I'm guessing they could mold into a better group going forward. Coach Devier is a football coach first and foremost and if it's true he's doing it because no one else would, it's not an ideal situation,, I'm gonna say that's a tad disappointing. The reason I say that is because I cannot imagine there was not a better fit available. It's really not fair to the kids, especially if his college teaching schedule makes it so he has to miss practice. I don't pretend to know the whole situation with him, I'm sure there's more to it. As far as his game coaching basketball ability, It looked more like a guy managing an intramural team and getting kids in and out of the game rather than much strategy. Being that the current skill level is what it is, he was doing the best he could with what he had. I do not believe he lives in Willard so he's doing quite a bit of driving back and forth and that's a large time commitment for probably not much pay, so he's to be commended for that . In this day and age, the winter season is important for Head football coaches to manage an off season program even though it is voluntary. Weight lifting and strength training is very important and it's almost a season unto itself for a football coach. I see him on twitter and with his posts I can tell he's trying. I bet the guy feels like there isn't enough hours in the day.
Last years 8th grade had a number of kids who were quite a bit further along in maturity and skill level. The fact that some are playing Varsity and JV would validate that claim. I think last year those kids, because of that skill level and maturity, made his job much easier .
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Post by moneyball on Jan 19, 2018 6:21:18 GMT -5
I had a chance to watch the Willard 8th yesterday. They were missing their top player because off illness I'm guessing so that affected their team ability to score and get the ball up the court. I'm going to say this group has the look of a team that has about 3 kids who have played a significant amount of hoops. The Paxton boy would make 4. I also kinda think some kids on the team are not there yet from a maturity standpoint. Kids mature and grow at different ages. I'd say there were at least 4 or 5 who had athletic skills, but maybe just haven't played enough basketball to excel on the court. If they stick with it, and it's their passion I'm guessing they could mold into a better group going forward. Coach Devier is a football coach first and foremost and if it's true he's doing it because no one else would, it's not an ideal situation,, I'm gonna say that's a tad disappointing. The reason I say that is because I cannot imagine there was not a better fit available. It's really not fair to the kids, especially if his college teaching schedule makes it so he has to miss practice. I don't pretend to know the whole situation with him, I'm sure there's more to it. As far as his game coaching basketball ability, It looked more like a guy managing an intramural team and getting kids in and out of the game rather than much strategy. Being that the current skill level is what it is, he was doing the best he could with what he had. I do not believe he lives in Willard so he's doing quite a bit of driving back and forth and that's a large time commitment for probably not much pay, so he's to be commended for that . In this day and age, the winter season is important for Head football coaches to manage an off season program even though it is voluntary. Weight lifting and strength training is very important and it's almost a season unto itself for a football coach. I see him on twitter and with his posts I can tell he's trying. I bet the guy feels like there isn't enough hours in the day. Last years 8th grade had a number of kids who were quite a bit further along in maturity and skill level. The fact that some are playing Varsity and JV would validate that claim. I think last year those kids, because of that skill level, made his job was much easier . Nice post buckeyekid. I think you hit the nail on the head with some of your comments. There are situations where a seasoned basketball coach would have called a timeout here or there in critical situations and as you stated, he just doesn't have that seasoning. They could have won that game last night but it was the first time, at least from the portion of the 8th grade games I've been able to catch that the team played with passion and determination. The laurence kid and lopez kid played the best game i've saw them play yet, they looked like different kids from what i've saw in the past. The ball movement and defense was pretty good. if they continue to play like this the rest of the year it should be exciting for them. on a side not the 7th grade won on a buzzer beater and the excitement in that gym when that kid hit that shot was electric, 8th grade boys rushed the court and it was a special time for that team. Nice win flashes 7th and nice effort last night 8th.
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Post by buckeyekid on Jan 19, 2018 7:19:02 GMT -5
Money, I was kinda waiting for the next shoe to drop last night. First a long delay because of burnt popcorn setting off a fire alarm and the subsequent evacuation of the gym. Then, once the 8th grade does get started, a referee blows a tire, falls to the floor and cracks his head which started to bleed onto the court. Fortunately it wasn't life threatening but he did have to go to the ER and get stitches, thus leaving a single official to finish the game by himself. Sort of a keystone cops version of events that made for two long delays. You don't see that happen every game night lol !
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2018 8:07:06 GMT -5
I had a chance to watch the Willard 8th yesterday. They were missing their top player because off illness I'm guessing so that affected their team ability to score and get the ball up the court. I'm going to say this group has the look of a team that has about 3 kids who have played a significant amount of hoops. The Paxton boy would make 4. I also kinda think some kids on the team are not there yet from a maturity standpoint. Kids mature and grow at different ages. I'd say there were at least 4 or 5 who had athletic skills, but maybe just haven't played enough basketball to excel on the court. If they stick with it, and it's their passion I'm guessing they could mold into a better group going forward. Coach Devier is a football coach first and foremost and if it's true he's doing it because no one else would, it's not an ideal situation,, I'm gonna say that's a tad disappointing. The reason I say that is because I cannot imagine there was not a better fit available. It's really not fair to the kids, especially if his college teaching schedule makes it so he has to miss practice. I don't pretend to know the whole situation with him, I'm sure there's more to it. As far as his game coaching basketball ability, It looked more like a guy managing an intramural team and getting kids in and out of the game rather than much strategy. Being that the current skill level is what it is, he was doing the best he could with what he had. I do not believe he lives in Willard so he's doing quite a bit of driving back and forth and that's a large time commitment for probably not much pay, so he's to be commended for that . In this day and age, the winter season is important for Head football coaches to manage an off season program even though it is voluntary. Weight lifting and strength training is very important and it's almost a season unto itself for a football coach. I see him on twitter and with his posts I can tell he's trying. I bet the guy feels like there isn't enough hours in the day. Last years 8th grade had a number of kids who were quite a bit further along in maturity and skill level. The fact that some are playing Varsity and JV would validate that claim. I think last year those kids, because of that skill level and maturity, made his job much easier . I'm a little surprised to read some of this about the goings on in the Willard program. This could be another sign that the Willard basketball of the old days is long gone. When you cannot find quality, committed coaches in your developing levels the end product will probably suffer. Then throw in a few outspoken parents who have the answers to your problems in the mix and it can get real ugly.
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Post by moneyball on Jan 19, 2018 8:16:57 GMT -5
Money, I was kinda waiting for the next shoe to drop last night. First a long delay because of burnt popcorn setting off a fire alarm and the subsequent evacuation of the gym. Then, once the 8th grade does get started, a referee blows a tire, falls to the floor and cracks his head which started to bleed onto the court. Fortunately it wasn't life threatening but he did have to go to the ER and get stitches, thus leaving a single official to finish the game by himself. Sort of a keystone cops version of events that made for two long delays. You don't see that happen every game night lol ! idth="33.319999999999936" height="3.5600000000000023" style="position: absolute; width: 33.32px; height: 3.56px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 0px; top: 0px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_52750290"></iframe><iframe width="33.319999999999936" height="3.5600000000000023" style="position: absolute; width: 33.32px; height: 3.56px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1592px; top: -138px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_78755703"></iframe> <iframe width="33.319999999999936" height="3.5600000000000023" style="position: absolute; width: 33.32px; height: 3.56px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 10px; top: -14px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_77005714"></iframe> <iframe width="33.319999999999936" height="3.5600000000000023" style="position: absolute; width: 33.32px; height: 3.56px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1592px; top: -14px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_87804545"></iframe> I felt sorry for both officials, the one that cracked his melon open and the one that was left to officiate a very close and contested 8th grade game. He missed some calls but that can be expected, he cannot see the entire court at once and he did a nice job flying solo.
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Post by moneyball on Jan 19, 2018 8:19:41 GMT -5
I had a chance to watch the Willard 8th yesterday. They were missing their top player because off illness I'm guessing so that affected their team ability to score and get the ball up the court. I'm going to say this group has the look of a team that has about 3 kids who have played a significant amount of hoops. The Paxton boy would make 4. I also kinda think some kids on the team are not there yet from a maturity standpoint. Kids mature and grow at different ages. I'd say there were at least 4 or 5 who had athletic skills, but maybe just haven't played enough basketball to excel on the court. If they stick with it, and it's their passion I'm guessing they could mold into a better group going forward. Coach Devier is a football coach first and foremost and if it's true he's doing it because no one else would, it's not an ideal situation,, I'm gonna say that's a tad disappointing. The reason I say that is because I cannot imagine there was not a better fit available. It's really not fair to the kids, especially if his college teaching schedule makes it so he has to miss practice. I don't pretend to know the whole situation with him, I'm sure there's more to it. As far as his game coaching basketball ability, It looked more like a guy managing an intramural team and getting kids in and out of the game rather than much strategy. Being that the current skill level is what it is, he was doing the best he could with what he had. I do not believe he lives in Willard so he's doing quite a bit of driving back and forth and that's a large time commitment for probably not much pay, so he's to be commended for that . In this day and age, the winter season is important for Head football coaches to manage an off season program even though it is voluntary. Weight lifting and strength training is very important and it's almost a season unto itself for a football coach. I see him on twitter and with his posts I can tell he's trying. I bet the guy feels like there isn't enough hours in the day. Last years 8th grade had a number of kids who were quite a bit further along in maturity and skill level. The fact that some are playing Varsity and JV would validate that claim. I think last year those kids, because of that skill level and maturity, made his job much easier . I'm a little surprised to read some of this about the goings on in the Willard program. This could be another sign that the Willard basketball of the old days is long gone. When you cannot find quality, committed coaches in your developing levels the end product will probably suffer. Then throw in a few outspoken parents who have the answers to your problems in the mix and it can get real ugly. This is a contradicting statement. You are stating due to the coach the program will suffer and then stating someone else shouldn't say the same thing because it will get ugly. Can't take anything away from the kids, they played their hearts out but just fell short. Could have a seasoned coach won a game that was close like that, very possible.
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Post by crimson5 on Jan 19, 2018 8:45:47 GMT -5
I had a chance to watch the Willard 8th yesterday. They were missing their top player because off illness I'm guessing so that affected their team ability to score and get the ball up the court. I'm going to say this group has the look of a team that has about 3 kids who have played a significant amount of hoops. The Paxton boy would make 4. I also kinda think some kids on the team are not there yet from a maturity standpoint. Kids mature and grow at different ages. I'd say there were at least 4 or 5 who had athletic skills, but maybe just haven't played enough basketball to excel on the court. If they stick with it, and it's their passion I'm guessing they could mold into a better group going forward. Coach Devier is a football coach first and foremost and if it's true he's doing it because no one else would, it's not an ideal situation,, I'm gonna say that's a tad disappointing. The reason I say that is because I cannot imagine there was not a better fit available. It's really not fair to the kids, especially if his college teaching schedule makes it so he has to miss practice. I don't pretend to know the whole situation with him, I'm sure there's more to it. As far as his game coaching basketball ability, It looked more like a guy managing an intramural team and getting kids in and out of the game rather than much strategy. Being that the current skill level is what it is, he was doing the best he could with what he had. I do not believe he lives in Willard so he's doing quite a bit of driving back and forth and that's a large time commitment for probably not much pay, so he's to be commended for that . In this day and age, the winter season is important for Head football coaches to manage an off season program even though it is voluntary. Weight lifting and strength training is very important and it's almost a season unto itself for a football coach. I see him on twitter and with his posts I can tell he's trying. I bet the guy feels like there isn't enough hours in the day. Last years 8th grade had a number of kids who were quite a bit further along in maturity and skill level. The fact that some are playing Varsity and JV would validate that claim. I think last year those kids, because of that skill level, made his job was much easier . Nice post buckeyekid. I think you hit the nail on the head with some of your comments. There are situations where a seasoned basketball coach would have called a timeout here or there in critical situations and as you stated, he just doesn't have that seasoning. They could have won that game last night but it was the first time, at least from the portion of the 8th grade games I've been able to catch that the team played with passion and determination. The laurence kid and lopez kid played the best game i've saw them play yet, they looked like different kids from what i've saw in the past. The ball movement and defense was pretty good. if they continue to play like this the rest of the year it should be exciting for them. on a side not the 7th grade won on a buzzer beater and the excitement in that gym when that kid hit that shot was electric, 8th grade boys rushed the court and it was a special time for that team. Nice win flashes 7th and nice effort last night 8th. I agree, good summary. The 8th boys played harder than I've seen all season. The 2 boys you mentioned had their best games of the year. One thing I did notice about this game was the way Willard scored most of their points...in transition.....getting up and down the floor. There were very few baskets made in offensive sets. Something I've noticed the past couple games, when they get down by 12/14 points early they usually fight their way back by using more ball pressure/trapping and scoring in transition. I think they are much better offensively when they are pushing the ball in transition and not slowing down running set plays.
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Post by moneyball on Jan 19, 2018 8:56:18 GMT -5
Nice post buckeyekid. I think you hit the nail on the head with some of your comments. There are situations where a seasoned basketball coach would have called a timeout here or there in critical situations and as you stated, he just doesn't have that seasoning. They could have won that game last night but it was the first time, at least from the portion of the 8th grade games I've been able to catch that the team played with passion and determination. The laurence kid and lopez kid played the best game i've saw them play yet, they looked like different kids from what i've saw in the past. The ball movement and defense was pretty good. if they continue to play like this the rest of the year it should be exciting for them. on a side not the 7th grade won on a buzzer beater and the excitement in that gym when that kid hit that shot was electric, 8th grade boys rushed the court and it was a special time for that team. Nice win flashes 7th and nice effort last night 8th. I agree, good summary. The 8th boys played harder than I've seen all season. The 2 boys you mentioned had their best games of the year. One thing I did notice about this game was the way Willard scored most of their points...in transition.....getting up and down the floor. There were very few baskets made in offensive sets. Something I've noticed the past couple games, when they get down by 12/14 points early they usually fight their way back by using more ball pressure/trapping and scoring in transition. I think they are much better offensively when they are pushing the ball in transition and not slowing down running set plays. <iframe width="33.319999999999936" height="6.759999999999991" style="position: absolute; width: 33.32px; height: 6.76px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1592px; top: -298px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_9494642"></iframe> <iframe width="33.319999999999936" height="6.759999999999991" style="position: absolute; width: 33.32px; height: 6.76px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 10px; top: -17px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_60358673"></iframe> <iframe width="33.319999999999936" height="6.759999999999991" style="position: absolute; width: 33.32px; height: 6.76px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1592px; top: -17px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_49726927"></iframe> So true, they looked good when they were pressing, trapping and uncaged, they have some speedsters on that team. Some of the boys need to work on their soft layups because when they were going full speed to the basket they don't know how to control their body and lay it in soft. I'd like to see a full court pressure defense the entire game, would be fun to watch them do that with these kids they have.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2018 9:16:35 GMT -5
I'm a little surprised to read some of this about the goings on in the Willard program. This could be another sign that the Willard basketball of the old days is long gone. When you cannot find quality, committed coaches in your developing levels the end product will probably suffer. Then throw in a few outspoken parents who have the answers to your problems in the mix and it can get real ugly. This is a contradicting statement. You are stating due to the coach the program will suffer and then stating someone else shouldn't say the same thing because it will get ugly. Can't take anything away from the kids, they played their hearts out but just fell short. Could have a seasoned coach won a game that was close like that, very possible. No, what I said was there are signs that the program of old that some Willard faithful want to see again could be gone for good. This could just be a fact of the times and many schools accept and live with the best product they can get. The parent statement is about the radicals, that any school may have, who become outspoken because they feel their kids are talented. That's when it can get ugly if parents think they should be winning more.
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Post by clydesbcfan on Jan 19, 2018 9:29:51 GMT -5
I was at the game too as my son plays for Clyde..
1) Who Burnt the popcorn lol. Killing me smalls! 2) I know there is a huge scramble for officials with all the HS snowouts. I've had several back out of contracts at the MS level to take HS games. Then have one get hurt, it was really rough to watch. Did the best he could for sure. 3) Willard doesn't look terrible. 4) Finding and getting quality coaches is an issue everywhere. Believe me. We did not have coaches until Sept (8th grade) and Late Oct (7th grade).
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Post by crimson5 on Jan 19, 2018 9:39:04 GMT -5
I was at the game too as my son plays for Clyde.. 1) Who Burnt the popcorn lol. Killing me smalls! 2) I know there is a huge scramble for officials with all the HS snowouts. I've had several back out of contracts at the MS level to take HS games. Then have one get hurt, it was really rough to watch. Did the best he could for sure. 3) Willard doesn't look terrible. 4) Finding and getting quality coaches is an issue everywhere. Believe me. We did not have coaches until Sept (8th grade) and Late Oct (7th grade). Clyde looked like a different team last nite, not taking away anything from Willard's effort, however, is Clyde missing a player or 2 from earlier in the year?
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Post by clydesbcfan on Jan 19, 2018 9:48:02 GMT -5
I was at the game too as my son plays for Clyde.. 1) Who Burnt the popcorn lol. Killing me smalls! 2) I know there is a huge scramble for officials with all the HS snowouts. I've had several back out of contracts at the MS level to take HS games. Then have one get hurt, it was really rough to watch. Did the best he could for sure. 3) Willard doesn't look terrible. 4) Finding and getting quality coaches is an issue everywhere. Believe me. We did not have coaches until Sept (8th grade) and Late Oct (7th grade). Clyde looked like a different team last nite, not taking away anything from Willard's effort, however, is Clyde missing a player or 2 from earlier in the year? One who got hurt Tuesday - that is correct.
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Post by moneyball on Jan 19, 2018 10:29:26 GMT -5
This is a contradicting statement. You are stating due to the coach the program will suffer and then stating someone else shouldn't say the same thing because it will get ugly. Can't take anything away from the kids, they played their hearts out but just fell short. Could have a seasoned coach won a game that was close like that, very possible. No, what I said was there are signs that the program of old that some Willard faithful want to see again could be gone for good. This could just be a fact of the times and many schools accept and live with the best product they can get. The parent statement is about the radicals, that any school may have, who become outspoken because they feel their kids are talented. That's when it can get ugly if parents think they should be winning more. Got some truth in that comment, thanks.
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Post by buckeyekid on Jan 19, 2018 12:19:50 GMT -5
Responding to Dude because you quoted my post,,, I'm not sure in your post if you thought I was an "outspoken parent" of a current player? I am NOT a parent of a Willard student. I am a Willard fan and financial supporter of everything WHS has to offer. I do watch a fair amount of College basketball. I was a Varsity ref for 15 years and then a Junior High coach at a smaller school that feeds into WHS. Wasn't trying to brag, just letting you know why I kinda feel somewhat qualified to give an opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2018 12:56:43 GMT -5
Responding to Dude because you quoted my post,,, I'm not sure in your post if you thought I was an "outspoken parent" of a current player? I am NOT a parent of a Willard student. I am a Willard fan and financial supporter of everything WHS has to offer. I do watch a fair amount of College basketball. I was a Varsity ref for 15 years and then a Junior High coach at a smaller school that feeds into WHS. Wasn't trying to brag, just letting you know why I kinda feel somewhat qualified to give an opinion. I did not think that at all nor did I read your comments in a negative way. In fact I'm pretty sure I know who you are, which is relevant only to this discussion.
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Post by buckeyekid on Jan 19, 2018 13:51:32 GMT -5
Dude,,thanks for clearing that up. Good weekend to you sir.
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Post by az3im on Jan 19, 2018 17:50:57 GMT -5
Anyone see the Edison teams? Any talent on either team?
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Post by deathfromabove on Jan 19, 2018 19:47:34 GMT -5
Money, I was kinda waiting for the next shoe to drop last night. First a long delay because of burnt popcorn setting off a fire alarm and the subsequent evacuation of the gym. Then, once the 8th grade does get started, a referee blows a tire, falls to the floor and cracks his head which started to bleed onto the court. Fortunately it wasn't life threatening but he did have to go to the ER and get stitches, thus leaving a single official to finish the game by himself. Sort of a keystone cops version of events that made for two long delays. You don't see that happen every game night lol ! BK, did you happen to see if The Three Stooges were there last night or maybe Groucho Martz and his brothers and they could of called it, The Night at the Basketball Game. ROFL
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Post by crimson5 on Jan 22, 2018 19:54:28 GMT -5
Willard 7th loses to Lucas 7th by 20 Willard 8th over Lucas 8th by 50
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