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Post by cbus on Jan 9, 2018 8:12:02 GMT -5
And for the 2nd straight year, a team from the state of Georgia chokes away a championship What was the choking part?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 8:15:23 GMT -5
Imagine that, a coach replaces his QB who was 25-2 as a starter who can't get the job done and wins a national championship.
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Post by cbus on Jan 9, 2018 8:24:03 GMT -5
Imagine that, I coach replaces his QB who was 25-2 as a starter who can't get the job done and wins a national championship. <iframe width="22.660000000000082" height="2.960000000000008" style="position: absolute; width: 22.66px; height: 2.96px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 0px; top: 0px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_91013750"></iframe> <iframe width="22.660000000000082" height="2.960000000000008" style="position: absolute; width: 22.66px; height: 2.96px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1070px; top: -109px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_90112795"></iframe> <iframe width="22.660000000000082" height="2.960000000000008" style="position: absolute; width: 22.66px; height: 2.96px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 10px; top: -13px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_97217500"></iframe> <iframe width="22.660000000000082" height="2.960000000000008" style="position: absolute; width: 22.66px; height: 2.96px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1070px; top: -13px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_54747170"></iframe> I think you just said Nick Saban is a better coach than Urban Meyer.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 8:55:29 GMT -5
Nick Saban is the best coach in college football history. Not a bad thing to be the second best current coach. The Hawaiian looks like the second coming of Steve Young
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Jan 9, 2018 9:06:09 GMT -5
And for the 2nd straight year, a team from the state of Georgia chokes away a championship What was the choking part? Blowing two 13 point leads, too much conservative "Tresseleball" play calling in the 2nd half, missing a crap-ton of tackles (including 2 on the one play that turned the entire momentum of the game)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 10:59:25 GMT -5
Imagine that, I coach replaces his QB who was 25-2 as a starter who can't get the job done and wins a national championship. <iframe width="22.660000000000082" height="2.960000000000008" style="position: absolute; width: 22.66px; height: 2.96px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 0px; top: 0px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_91013750"></iframe> <iframe width="22.660000000000082" height="2.960000000000008" style="position: absolute; width: 22.66px; height: 2.96px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1070px; top: -109px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_90112795"></iframe> <iframe width="22.660000000000082" height="2.960000000000008" style="position: absolute; width: 22.66px; height: 2.96px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 10px; top: -13px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_97217500"></iframe> <iframe width="22.660000000000082" height="2.960000000000008" style="position: absolute; width: 22.66px; height: 2.96px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1070px; top: -13px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_54747170"></iframe> I think you just said Nick Saban is a better coach than Urban Meyer. That is not what I was saying but you can spin that however you want about a coach who has won 6 national Titles. What I did say was a coaching staff saw a need to able to throw the ball and the starting QB, who was 25-2, was not the best on the roster for that situation. Good for them, even though I was cheering for the other guys.
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Post by sportsjock on Jan 9, 2018 11:13:53 GMT -5
Think there might be a bit of favoritism or perhaps a bit of special treatment when it pertains to anything Alabama?
This player would have been sent to showers for anyone else and could you imagine Urban Meyer putting up with any of his coaches getting punched by an out of control player on the sidelines....again, to the showers!
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Post by CEOSouth on Jan 9, 2018 12:23:07 GMT -5
Nick Saban is the best coach in college football history. Not a bad thing to be the second best current coach. The Hawaiian looks like the second coming of Steve Young Man, Tua was impressive. Throws a beautiful ball. Certainly looked Steve Youngish at times last night.
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Post by DrTorch on Jan 9, 2018 13:04:17 GMT -5
Imagine that, a coach replaces his QB who was 25-2 as a starter who can't get the job done and wins a national championship. +50
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Post by Rambo McClain on Jan 9, 2018 13:07:45 GMT -5
Umm, Jalen Hursts moved to 26-2 as a starter and 1-1 in NC games. Congrats to Jalen on the big win.
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Post by DrTorch on Jan 9, 2018 13:10:21 GMT -5
Picture if you will, a National Championship Contending Program not beholden to one QB...
...sounds delightful.
Wonder what Fillmore and sportsjock think about that...lol. There really IS more than one QB on a roster. Whoulda thunk?
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Post by cbus on Jan 9, 2018 15:12:44 GMT -5
That is not what I was saying but you can spin that however you want about a coach who has won 6 national Titles. What I did say was a coaching staff saw a need to able to throw the ball and the starting QB, who was 25-2, was not the best on the roster for that situation. Good for them, even though I was cheering for the other guys. That's what you should be saying. I have a hard time believing, Urban would have change QB's mid-game like Saban did. Whether it would have been JT to Cardale or JT to Haskins in a similar situation. It doesn't seem to be in Urban's DNA. I don't think Urban is as good as an in-game coach as Saban.
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Post by sportsjock on Jan 9, 2018 15:45:34 GMT -5
Picture if you will, a National Championship Contending Program not beholden to one QB... ...sounds delightful. Wonder what Fillmore and sportsjock think about that...lol. There really IS more than one QB on a roster. Whoulda thunk? Man, you guys never give up, do you? At least all of us are consistent. MF and I have confidence and faith in Urban Meyers judgement and coaching abilities......and you obviously don't......as simple as that. We're all entitled to our own different viewpoints. I'm looking forward to Haskins next year, but will support whatever rings out at the QB position. GO BUCKS!
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Post by DrTorch on Jan 9, 2018 17:27:17 GMT -5
His judgment? You mean like his judgement to decide to recruit and offer Haskins?
Witness a coach like Saban do what was best for the team instead of what was best for his QB. Meyer will never catch Saban now.
WIN.
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Post by sportsjock on Jan 9, 2018 17:41:28 GMT -5
His judgment? You mean like his judgement to decide to recruit and offer Haskins? Witness a coach like Saban do what was best for the team instead of what was best for his QB. Meyer will never catch Saban now.WIN. Actually, Saban will never catch Urban Meyer with the highest winning percentage in the modern era. Total wins is still a matter, yet to be determined. Keep in mind, Urban is a 13 year junior to Saban. Judgement? Think Urban would let one of his players sucker punch an opponent and then punch one of his coaches, shortly there after? Apparently, it is going to go unaddressed. (Take another look at the video above)
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Post by DrTorch on Jan 9, 2018 19:30:40 GMT -5
it's going to go unaddressed because Saban is going to be the next head coach of the New York Football Giants
dude when u gonna realize Championships are all that matter? you and your stats
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 23:32:29 GMT -5
His judgment? You mean like his judgement to decide to recruit and offer Haskins? Witness a coach like Saban do what was best for the team instead of what was best for his QB. Meyer will never catch Saban now.WIN. Actually, Saban will never catch Urban Meyer with the highest winning percentage in the modern era.Total wins is still a matter, yet to be determined. Keep in mind, Urban is a 13 year junior to Saban. Ask Saban if he would trade his 6 championships to have the "highest winning percentage in the modern era"? Then you will know for sure who is chasing.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 9, 2018 23:32:36 GMT -5
Why haven't you said that to Rambo Vogel, THE KING of stats, half of which are fake or incomplete?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 9, 2018 23:40:14 GMT -5
Think there might be a bit of favoritism or perhaps a bit of special treatment when it pertains to anything Alabama? This player would have been sent to showers for anyone else and could you imagine Urban Meyer putting up with any of his coaches getting punched by an out of control player on the sidelines....again, to the showers! ALSO no discipline for the Alabama starter who when on camera walking out of the tunnel before the game said F**K TRUMP!
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 9, 2018 23:58:50 GMT -5
Picture if you will, a National Championship Contending Program not beholden to one QB... ...sounds delightful. Wonder what Fillmore and sportsjock think about that...lol. There really IS more than one QB on a roster. Whoulda thunk? First Haskins isn't half the QB the Hawaiian kid is. Secondly, Haskins played the 2nd half of a very important game for Ohio State this year. No more than the Bama back up played. Why wasn't Hurst replaced during Alabama's loss to Auburn? At that time wasn't Saban worried about EVEN making the playoffs? It took Saban a long time to replace a QB he never liked. Hurst was Kiffin's guy, not Saban's. Surely you aren't going to tell us if Haskins had played the 2nd half against Oklahoma, the 2nd game of the year, Ohio State would have won. Oh wait. The score was 3-3 at half time. Mayfield wasn't doing any better for his team. Ohio State was only down by 4 going into the 4th quarter. Is that when you put a back up in? IF Haskins started the 2nd half for Ohio State against Iowa does he rush the Iowa passer, stop the Iowa run game, cover the TE's that put up 24 in the 2nd half? Come on torch, with that much hate you should be able to do better than that!
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 10, 2018 0:24:07 GMT -5
Nick Saban is the best coach in college football history. Not a bad thing to be the second best current coach. The Hawaiian looks like the second coming of Steve Young Hell, Yale won 12 National Championships WITHOUT a coach.
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Post by sportsjock on Jan 10, 2018 8:24:20 GMT -5
Actually, Saban will never catch Urban Meyer with the highest winning percentage in the modern era.Total wins is still a matter, yet to be determined. Keep in mind, Urban is a 13 year junior to Saban. Ask Saban if he would trade his 6 championships to have the "highest winning percentage in the modern era"? Then you will know for sure who is chasing. I don't think anyone is attempting to diminish Saban's accomplishments, but the point is, Urban's legacy will most probably be continuing long after Saban has left the college football scene.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 8:38:50 GMT -5
I didn't think you were diminishing Saban's accomplishments. But do you really think he is bothered by the fact that he will not have the "highest winning percentage in the modern era"?
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Post by DrTorch on Jan 10, 2018 11:32:09 GMT -5
Picture if you will, a National Championship Contending Program not beholden to one QB... ...sounds delightful. Wonder what Fillmore and sportsjock think about that...lol. There really IS more than one QB on a roster. Whoulda thunk? First Haskins isn't half the QB the Hawaiian kid is. Secondly, Haskins played the 2nd half of a very important game for Ohio State this year. No more than the Bama back up played. Why wasn't Hurst replaced during Alabama's loss to Auburn? At that time wasn't Saban worried about EVEN making the playoffs? It took Saban a long time to replace a QB he never liked. Hurst was Kiffin's guy, not Saban's. Surely you aren't going to tell us if Haskins had played the 2nd half against Oklahoma, the 2nd game of the year, Ohio State would have won. Oh wait. The score was 3-3 at half time. Mayfield wasn't doing any better for his team. Ohio State was only down by 4 going into the 4th quarter. Is that when you put a back up in? IF Haskins started the 2nd half for Ohio State against Iowa does he rush the Iowa passer, stop the Iowa run game, cover the TE's that put up 24 in the 2nd half? Come on torch, with that much hate you should be able to do better than that! lol Barrett has been struggling for 3 years boss, not 2 games, and every time he has been replaced in the past our team plays better and WINS another terrible analogy by you if Haskins starts against Iowa he doesn't throw a pick 6 on his first pass. After that everything changes haha. WIN.
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Post by DrTorch on Jan 10, 2018 11:33:41 GMT -5
You can never say anything positive FOR Barrett, all you can do is bash 12-Gauge, Haskins, Miller, TP, Mayfield, etc etc. Why do you struggle to find positives for Barrett? All he has is longevity. He is the Jamie Moyer of College Football.
Or the Aaron Craft of OSU Football. A great Frosh who got worse as the years went by.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 11, 2018 15:27:54 GMT -5
I HAVE said positive things FOR Barrett. AGAIN YOU DON'T READ. Do I have to list all of the Ohio State and Big Ten records he holds, his winning % and his QB rating this year, AGAIN?
Your hate keeps you from recognizing the difference between facts and stats and insults.
UNLIKE YOU and other haters I ALWAYS support the starter, regardless of position or sport at Ohio State. UNLIKE YOU and other haters, I WILL be supporting whoever is the starting QB next year. UNLIKE YOU and other haters I'm not so obtuse to claim to know more than some of THE best college coaches in the county.
I can't believe a person with your education can't or won't read what is written.
The subject YOU FIRST addressed me about, in an insulting manner, was the substitution of a backup QB at half time of a big game. In relationship to Urban and JT. All I did was show that the backup at Ohio State played as much as the back up at Alabama did this year in big games. THEN asked why Saban didn't make the move in the Auburn loss to assure a playoff spot. THEN asked at what obvious point in Ohio State's 2 losses, a backup QB would have made a difference. You are aware that Saban DID NOT replace Hurst at the start a game, even though he was not his favored QB.
All you can do is ask innocuous questions yet NEVER EVER answer questions asked of you. WHY?? Unless you start answering questions posed, we will continue to assume you have no good answers.
You're the one with the ignorant ugly insults. A two bagger for Craft and JT, two well thought of Ohio State athletes. BTW, a stupid analogy, who was supposed to replace Craft?
ANSWER THE QUESTIONS chicken. I'm not afraid to like you are.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 15:50:16 GMT -5
You can never say anything positive FOR Barrett, all you can do is bash 12-Gauge, Haskins, Miller, TP, Mayfield, etc etc. Why do you struggle to find positives for Barrett? All he has is longevity. He is the Jamie Moyer of College Football. Or the Aaron Craft of OSU Football. A great Frosh who got worse as the years went by. Disagree with Craft getting worse. The talent around him got worse
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Post by DrTorch on Jan 11, 2018 17:45:07 GMT -5
You can never say anything positive FOR Barrett, all you can do is bash 12-Gauge, Haskins, Miller, TP, Mayfield, etc etc. Why do you struggle to find positives for Barrett? All he has is longevity. He is the Jamie Moyer of College Football. Or the Aaron Craft of OSU Football. A great Frosh who got worse as the years went by. Disagree with Craft getting worse. The talent around him got worse not getting better after 4 years as a starter is akin to getting worse i mean, hit a shot for goodness sake
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Post by DrTorch on Jan 11, 2018 17:52:37 GMT -5
I HAVE said positive things FOR Barrett. AGAIN YOU DON'T READ. Do I have to list all of the Ohio State and Big Ten records he holds, his winning % and his QB rating this year, AGAIN? Your hate keeps you from recognizing the difference between facts and stats and insults. UNLIKE YOU and other haters I ALWAYS support the starter, regardless of position or sport at Ohio State. UNLIKE YOU and other haters, I WILL be supporting whoever is the starting QB next year. UNLIKE YOU and other haters I'm not so obtuse to claim to know more than some of THE best college coaches in the county. I can't believe a person with your education can't or won't read what is written. The subject YOU FIRST addressed me about, in an insulting manner, was the substitution of a backup QB at half time of a big game. In relationship to Urban and JT. All I did was show that the backup at Ohio State played as much as the back up at Alabama did this year in big games. THEN asked why Saban didn't make the move in the Auburn loss to assure a playoff spot. THEN asked at what obvious point in Ohio State's 2 losses, a backup QB would have made a difference. You are aware that Saban DID NOT replace Hurst at the start a game, even though he was not his favored QB. All you can do is ask innocuous questions yet NEVER EVER answer questions asked of you. WHY?? Unless you start answering questions posed, we will continue to assume you have no good answers. You're the one with the ignorant ugly insults. A two bagger for Craft and JT, two well thought of Ohio State athletes. BTW, a stupid analogy, who was supposed to replace Craft? ANSWER THE QUESTIONS chicken. I'm not afraid to like you are. W Saban replaced Jalen when he started to suck, which is what Urbs should have done to JT...in 2015. Especially when every QB who ever replaced JT in the starting lineup has a better Win % than he did. WIN...compare JTs career Win % to Cardales, or Haskins...and when you cry about sample size then realize that cuts both ways when you tout the career stats of a guy who started 4 years because he wasn't good enough to advance to the next level vs guys who started 2 or 3 years. Saban did what was best for the team. Not what was best for his "family." That's why he has won TWO more titles since Urban lucked into one when Barrett went down vs UM in 2014 and was replaced by 12 Gauge.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 18:26:30 GMT -5
Disagree with Craft getting worse. The talent around him got worse not getting better after 4 years as a starter is akin to getting worse i mean, hit a shot for goodness sake
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