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Post by gt1975 on Dec 11, 2017 15:48:44 GMT -5
December 14
Buckeye Valley (64) @ Clear Fork (71)
River Valley (70) @ Galion (91)
Marion Harding (39) @ Pleasant (49)
Ontario (50) @ North Union (48)
December 16
Ontario (57) @ Buckeye Valley (46)
Galion (45) @ Marion Harding (52)
North Union (57) @ Pleasant (73)
River Valley (62) @ Clear Fork (101)
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Post by 4 on Dec 14, 2017 13:03:09 GMT -5
Will be at pleasant tonight, harding can get their first win if browley can play a bit better on his torn acl, we’ll see how it goes.
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Post by gt1975 on Dec 14, 2017 13:14:42 GMT -5
Will be at pleasant tonight, harding can get their first win if browley can play a bit better on his torn acl, we’ll see how it goes. I will be at the Galion game tonight, should be a winnable game for us.... I think Harding loses tonight then gets their first win Saturday against Galion, IMO.
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Post by gatesofbabylon25 on Dec 14, 2017 16:18:08 GMT -5
I agree with you GT,
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Post by 4 on Dec 14, 2017 17:15:44 GMT -5
Might work out that way, we’ll see how it goes. From what I know from these teams, galion should win tonight.
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Post by usa70pp on Dec 14, 2017 17:34:03 GMT -5
Will be at pleasant tonight, harding can get their first win if browley can play a bit better on his torn acl, we’ll see how it goes. Would it be better if he set out completely for a while longer? How bad is the ACL and does he risk further damage by playing before 100% healed? Descriptions of his ability to play in his last game didn't sound too good.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2017 17:46:17 GMT -5
Will be at pleasant tonight, harding can get their first win if browley can play a bit better on his torn acl, we’ll see how it goes. Having a torn acl will not get better until surgery. Sitting out will not heal it. It sounds like the kid is putting surgery off to not miss his senior year. The reality is he will be only a fraction of the player he would be if healthy. The alternative is having the surgery and missing everything so it sounds like he is trying to make the best of what he can. I hate to hear these stories but especially when they happen to seniors.
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Post by 4 on Dec 14, 2017 19:27:22 GMT -5
You’re right dude, that’s the reason he’s playing. Luckily his jump shot doesn’t use much leg. But he’s only a fraction of the player he is usually.
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Post by 4 on Dec 14, 2017 19:54:11 GMT -5
6-6 at pleasant after 1.
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Post by 4 on Dec 14, 2017 20:12:39 GMT -5
Pleasant up 19-10 at half, no offense from Harding.
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Post by 4 on Dec 14, 2017 21:03:43 GMT -5
Pleasant wins 49-39, harding will finish middle of the pack this year.
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Post by gt1975 on Dec 14, 2017 21:22:31 GMT -5
Galion 91 River Valley 70 Final
Alsip scored 41 and added 10 steals. River Valley may not win a conference game this year. I heard their fans saying the same thing.
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Post by gt1975 on Dec 14, 2017 21:24:19 GMT -5
Ontario 50 North Union 48 Final
Either North Union is better than I thought or Ontario and Clear Fork are quite a bit worse than I thought. NU lost by 3 to CF and 2 to Ontario.
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Post by gt1975 on Dec 14, 2017 21:30:37 GMT -5
Clear Fork 71 Buckeye Valley 64 Final
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Post by moacmama on Dec 14, 2017 21:54:47 GMT -5
Ontario 50 North Union 48 Final Either North Union is better than I thought or Ontario and Clear Fork are quite a bit worse than I thought. NU lost by 3 to CF and 2 to Ontario. Were you there? i wasn't very impressed with Ontario and expected it to be an easy win for them. NU gave them a good game and had a chance to wn it with 14 seconds left. Edit: I just saw you were at Galion-RV game.
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Post by 4 on Dec 14, 2017 22:33:10 GMT -5
Ontario’s game is depending on how well #24 shoots the ball it seems. I think that’s his number. Moac is a shakeup. ANyones league to win. NU has some guys that have played together awhile, galion is bad outside of alsip, Rv is even worse. Harding plays physical but offense isn’t doinf much at the moment with as many turnovers have had. I know nothing about CF, bv lost their best player so know that hurts.
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Post by 4 on Dec 14, 2017 22:38:09 GMT -5
Harding had 29 fouls to pleasant 9, didn’t like the officiating. But not gonna go over that. Simple no offense and the ball is sticking.
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Post by gatesofbabylon25 on Dec 14, 2017 23:05:46 GMT -5
BV without Ethan is big. They have bigs but BV has never used bigs. Dylan can flat out shot, but after that outside game is a ? Think they are a win at home, lose on road team. Next yr when 8th grade class gets there is when to watch to see what they can do. They should be playing the freshman schedule
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 14, 2017 23:28:33 GMT -5
Ontario 50 North Union 48 Final Either North Union is better than I thought or Ontario and Clear Fork are quite a bit worse than I thought. NU lost by 3 to CF and 2 to Ontario. Were you there? i wasn't very impressed with Ontario and expected it to be an easy win for them. NU gave them a good game and had a chance to wn it with 14 seconds left. Edit: I just saw you were at Galion-RV game. I have no idea why you'd think Ontario would win easily. I've tried to make it clear that this is the youngest team with the least experience in Balogh's 33 years. IMO the only reason they won their first 3 games is due to having the best coach in this part of the state. They're PG play has been below average. Their starting PG would be a Soph that was on varsity last year, but he's out for the season with a broken ankle. Thus a short Junior starts, that hasn't played basketball since his Freshman year due to a leg injury. He makes way too many turnovers for a PG and doesn't have an outside shot. The back up PG is a slender Freshman with a huge upside, but being a Freshman Balogh isn't ready to play him in crunch time YET. Their best ball handler isn't eligible until the 12 game. The best 3-point shooters aren't guards, it's their 6-7 and 6-4 forwards. Who led Ontario in scoring, both with around 12 points. Ontario will be much better next year and even better in 2 years. Ontario was down 3 at half time, down by as many as 5 in the 4th quarter, but up by 7 going into the last 4 minutes of the game. When NU pressure forced some turnovers, fouled to get the ball and Ontario didn't make foul shorts. If NU made their free throws in the first half they win this game easily. NU has a some nice looking young players. They should be a team to be reckoned with in their new league, the next couple of years at least. Ontario won the JV game 59-36, by far their best shooting night of the first 3 games. Freshman guard Colton Kurtz had 24.
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Post by portwalk on Dec 14, 2017 23:39:24 GMT -5
Were you there? i wasn't very impressed with Ontario and expected it to be an easy win for them. NU gave them a good game and had a chance to wn it with 14 seconds left. Edit: I just saw you were at Galion-RV game. I have no idea why you'd think Ontario would win easily. I've tried to make it clear that this is the youngest team with the least experience in Balogh's 33 years. IMO the only reason they won their first 3 games is due to having the best coach in this part of the state. They're PG play has been below average. A short Junior starts, that hasn't played basketball since his Freshman year due to a leg injury. He makes way too many turnovers for a PG and doesn't have an outside shot. The back up PG is a slender Freshman with a huge upside, but being a Freshman Balogh isn't ready to play him in crunch time YET. Their best ball handler isn't eligible until the 12 game. The best 3-point shooters aren't guards, it's their 6-7 and 6-4 forwards. Who led Ontario in scoring, both with around 12 points. Ontario will be much better next year and even better in 2 years. Ontario was down 3 at half time, down by as many as 5 in the 4th quarter, but up by 7 going into the last 4 minutes of the game. When NU pressure forced some turnovers, fouled to get the ball and Ontario didn't make foul shorts. If NU made their free throws in the first half they win this game easily. NU has a few nice looking young players. They should be a team to be reckoned with in their new league, the next couple of years at least. Ontario won the JV game 59-37, by far their best shooting night of the first 3 games. Freshman guard Colton Kurtz had 24. It will be interesting to see how Ontario fares if they match up with Norwalk in the post season now that Haraway is back in the lineup. Could of had a little to do with OHS's 6 point home win oh yeah it was all coaching I forgot
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 15, 2017 0:44:16 GMT -5
If you read posts in their entirety instead of being a really lousy speed reader, you would have noted that I said the exact same thing about Ontario's win over Norwalk and a possible future match up. Without Haraway, coaching became a bigger factor for Norwalk, didn't it?
If you went to games these days instead of bloviating without first hand knowledge, your thoughts on games would be worthy instead of worthless.
Stop and think, read, go to games, before being a hater.
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Post by mrsteel on Dec 15, 2017 0:46:31 GMT -5
Portwalk Ontario will have 2 players that didn't play back by then too. Also Ontarios returning pt guard was injured in football and is missing this season.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 15, 2017 1:01:45 GMT -5
Thanks steel. He does not read, he does not go to games. Thus he is not knowledgeable about present day basketball. BUT, he did run off Vogel. Until he came back as Rambo the Fake Stat Man
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2017 8:17:41 GMT -5
Portwalk Ontario will have 2 players that didn't play back by then too. Also Ontarios returning pt guard was injured in football and is missing this season. Although this is accurate, the value that Haraway brings to Norwalk may outweigh both of those two. I assume you are talking about Todd because Ontario graduated their point guard? Todd had very little varsity experience at point guard but will surely be missed. Is there any date for his return or will he sit the entire season?
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Post by wallpass on Dec 15, 2017 8:25:48 GMT -5
Watched the Harding-Pleasant game last night. Harding plays some pretty good D which should keep them in most games this year. Their problem last night was it didn't look like anyone other than #11 or #5 wanted to put the ball up until the 4th quarter when they were trying to rally. Pleasant has good balance in their scoring - no superstars that you need to double but also no one you can take your eye off. I liked their defensive effort as well. I also liked that they played 9 or 10 guys throughout the game and kept guys fresh. That said, even as a Pleasant fan, I thought the Spartans got away with some definite fouls and the Prexies did not. I would agree with 4 that the officials were a little harsh with Harding. Not that their players didn't earn the fouls they were given but that Pleasant should have had more fouls called on them then they did.
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Post by 4 on Dec 15, 2017 11:09:25 GMT -5
Thanks for backing that up wall pass, I like to be honest with officials. If they call a bad game in Hardings favor for Harding at home I’d say it. Harding plays physical D which kept it close. Pleasant is well rounded.
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Post by gtab on Dec 15, 2017 11:54:19 GMT -5
As far as Galion goes (IMHO):
1. Alsip is their straw that stirs the drink. As he goes, Galion goes. If the opponent doubles him and hits the boards (after his sometime erratic, rim-clanking shooting), they will probably crush the Tigers. Alsip is extremely streaky. If he gets on a roll, the Tigers fare better. If he's cold, the Tigers don't hit the boards well enough to compensate (and will probably lose by 20+). If their opponent plays "zone" and forces the Tigers to shoot over it, because Alsip doesn't dribble-drive that well (IMO), it'll be another typically LONG night for the Tigers. Galion's forwards are weak (and that is being kind).
2. This is, by far, one of the most erratic teams that Galion has fielded in quite some time. A bit like the teams that they fielded immediately after their Sweet 16 run (back in 2009).
3. I'll be at the Galion-Harding game tomorrow. If Alsip is cold, the Tigers will lose, unless some kind of miracle occurs.......which is VERY doubtful.
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Post by royalballdad on Dec 15, 2017 12:13:17 GMT -5
River Valley and especially Bucyrus could be two of the weakest Varsity basketball teams in Ohio. Not sure if Galion can beat another team in the league. Harding will shut down Alsip, just as Pleasant & Upper did until the 4th quarter. He could end up with some points but it will be vs Harding's bench. Galion has some talent but not so sure how good the coaching is or isn't.
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Post by gt1975 on Dec 15, 2017 12:26:42 GMT -5
Good insight gtab. It's nice to have another Galion fan on the basketball forum. I also agree with royal. River Valley and Bucyrus are even worse than I thought they'd be. Galion does have enough talent to at least compete with every team in the conference but they lose by at least 20+ every time they play a decent team. Coaching is a definite weak spot. I hear a lot of complaints. Players, parents, and others that know about the program complain about the whole high school coaching staff. I was against the hire from the beginning and he's done nothing to prove me wrong. Obviously there's plenty of games left so I hope I'm wrong.
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Post by mrsteel on Dec 15, 2017 12:52:12 GMT -5
Portwalk Ontario will have 2 players that didn't play back by then too. Also Ontarios returning pt guard was injured in football and is missing this season. Although this is accurate, the value that Haraway brings to Norwalk may outweigh both of those two. I assume you are talking about Todd because Ontario graduated their point guard? Todd had very little varsity experience at point guard but will surely be missed. Is there any date for his return or will he sit the entire season? Cam Todd got quite a few minutes last year and has the ability to put up some points. He grew over the summer as well. He said to me early on he thought after Jan. In a speech last week he said he wasn't playing this year. I don't know. It remains to be seen what the kid from cc can and can't do. I realize what Haraway means, just pointing out to pw that The big O isn't exactly the experienced team it has been, the past few years.
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