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Post by gt1975 on Jan 14, 2018 18:49:03 GMT -5
January 15
North Union @ River Valley
January 16
Galion @ Buckeye Valley
January 18
Buckeye Valley @ River Valley
Pleasant @ Galion
North Union @ Clear Fork
Marion Harding @ Ontario
January 20
Clear Fork @ Buckeye Valley
Pleasant @ Marion Harding
Galion @ River Valley
North Union @ Ontario
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Post by gt1975 on Jan 14, 2018 18:49:51 GMT -5
Galion has a good chance to pick up 2 wins this week.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2018 23:10:31 GMT -5
Make up games will keep teams busy in the last month.
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Post by brownsguy on Jan 15, 2018 12:18:33 GMT -5
I don’t foresee the BV coaching staff letting Galion’s best player, Alsip beat them. That being said, be interesting to see if BV, who is playing a lot of young kids, can get defensive stops which has been a problem this year for them.
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Post by moacmama on Jan 15, 2018 16:16:18 GMT -5
Here we go again....NU at RV tonight is postponed, no makeup date yet. #SoOverThisWeather
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Post by gt1975 on Jan 16, 2018 13:14:15 GMT -5
I don’t foresee the BV coaching staff letting Galion’s best player, Alsip beat them. That being said, be interesting to see if BV, who is playing a lot of young kids, can get defensive stops which has been a problem this year for them. If BV can contain Alsip then they have a good chance to win. He takes a lot of bad shots and keeps forcing them when he's not scoring. He shot something like 5 for 25 against Ontario.
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Post by gt1975 on Jan 16, 2018 20:01:36 GMT -5
BV 20 GT 18 End 1Q
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Post by gt1975 on Jan 16, 2018 20:02:19 GMT -5
BV 36 GT 30 Halftime
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Post by gt1975 on Jan 16, 2018 20:32:05 GMT -5
BV 55 GT 39 End 3Q
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Post by gt1975 on Jan 16, 2018 20:54:12 GMT -5
BV 72 GT 53 Final
A little disappointed. I thought Galion would be able to win this one since BV has 2 starters out with injuries.
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Post by brownsguy on Jan 16, 2018 21:53:52 GMT -5
I’m guessing Alsip didn’t have a big game then. I figured BV would limit him and make someone else beat them. As gates of Babylon said on here, BV will only continue to get better with their young guys playing and gaining experience. They have always been well coached in my opinion and wouldn’t surprise me if they knock off some league opponents towards the end of the year. Any other scores tonight?
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Post by gt1975 on Jan 16, 2018 22:10:42 GMT -5
I’m guessing Alsip didn’t have a big game then. I figured BV would limit him and make someone else beat them. As gates of Babylon said on here, BV will only continue to get better with their young guys playing and gaining experience. They have always been well coached in my opinion and wouldn’t surprise me if they knock off some league opponents towards the end of the year. Any other scores tonight? I'm not sure of the stats, I was just posting the updates I saw. IMO BV has the second best coaching staff in the conference (Ontario #1). BV would be much better too if it wasn't for the injuries. 2 starters and one was first team all MOAC last year (Crawford). No other scores for tonight. These were the only 2 teams in the conference that played. Next games are Thursday, 4 conference games. EDIT: Leading ScorersBV-Herbert,Newland,Richard= 15 pts each GT-Lackey= 12 pts
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Post by brownsguy on Jan 16, 2018 22:17:22 GMT -5
Thanks for the info GT.... I agree for sure
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Post by brownsguy on Jan 16, 2018 22:35:25 GMT -5
I heard Alsip only had 10 points and was hounded all game by BV defenders in his face. Doesn’t sound like Galion has a chance to win if he doesn’t put up big numbers.
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Post by gatesofbabylon25 on Jan 17, 2018 5:41:01 GMT -5
BV played their best game of the yr. They had someone in Alsip's face all night. Galion tried screening for him and BV did a great job of switching and staying in his face. Gast had them ready to play. Young kids getting valuable playing time will only help.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 16:19:22 GMT -5
BV played their best game of the yr. They had someone in Alsip's face all night. Galion tried screening for him and BV did a great job of switching and staying in his face. Gast had them ready to play. Young kids getting valuable playing time will only help. With all that attention does Alsip collect high assist numbers on those nights?
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Post by gt1975 on Jan 17, 2018 16:48:36 GMT -5
BV played their best game of the yr. They had someone in Alsip's face all night. Galion tried screening for him and BV did a great job of switching and staying in his face. Gast had them ready to play. Young kids getting valuable playing time will only help. With all that attention does Alsip collect high assist numbers on those nights? No, he just continues to shoot. He had 10 pts and 1 assist. He forces a lot of bad shots and they only get worse when the defense gives him all the attention. He's a good player but probably takes about 20 shots a night, even when he's guarded closely. He shot 5 for 25 against Ontario.
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Post by ohioraised on Jan 17, 2018 17:27:44 GMT -5
With all that attention does Alsip collect high assist numbers on those nights? No, he just continues to shoot. He had 10 pts and 1 assist. He forces a lot of bad shots and they only get worse when the defense gives him all the attention. He's a good player but probably takes about 20 shots a night, even when he's guarded closely. He shot 5 for 25 against Ontario. I don't think most would call that a good player. Selfish player maybe but not a good player.
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Post by gt1975 on Jan 17, 2018 17:44:57 GMT -5
No, he just continues to shoot. He had 10 pts and 1 assist. He forces a lot of bad shots and they only get worse when the defense gives him all the attention. He's a good player but probably takes about 20 shots a night, even when he's guarded closely. He shot 5 for 25 against Ontario. I don't think most would call that a good player. Selfish player maybe but not a good player. His TALENT makes him a good player. His SHOT SELECTION makes him selfish. He is a talented player, not a good teammate. The coach needs to take responsibility too for letting it get to this point. He doesn't do anything about it. I talked about it before but I'll mention it again. The coach said last year at halftime of one of the games that they "need to keep getting the ball to Isaiah. He's going to break Nate Reinking's scoring record and you guys need to get on board with that". And said several times in practices that Alsip needs to shoot about 20 shots per game. So it's not all the kid's fault. The coach is an enabler.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 17:46:44 GMT -5
With all that attention does Alsip collect high assist numbers on those nights? No, he just continues to shoot. He had 10 pts and 1 assist. He forces a lot of bad shots and they only get worse when the defense gives him all the attention. He's a good player but probably takes about 20 shots a night, even when he's guarded closely. He shot 5 for 25 against Ontario. I was told he was a solid point guard so I wondered if the defense focused on him, how much would he create for his teammates. If he does actually take 20 shots a night it doesn't sound like he is that great of a shooter either if he is only averaging 17 a game.
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Post by ohioraised on Jan 17, 2018 20:51:21 GMT -5
I don't think most would call that a good player. Selfish player maybe but not a good player. His TALENT makes him a good player. His SHOT SELECTION makes him selfish. He is a talented player, not a good teammate. The coach needs to take responsibility too for letting it get to this point. He doesn't do anything about it. I talked about it before but I'll mention it again. The coach said last year at halftime of one of the games that they "need to keep getting the ball to Isaiah. He's going to break Nate Reinking's scoring record and you guys need to get on board with that". And said several times in practices that Alsip needs to shoot about 20 shots per game. So it's not all the kid's fault. The coach is an enabler. Our coach always told us it talks more than talent to make you a good player. That's what I was going by.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 17, 2018 21:23:44 GMT -5
He has A LOT more "talent" than any other player on his team.
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Post by royalballdad on Jan 17, 2018 22:26:53 GMT -5
I have seen the Alslip kid play several times. He has talent but he lacks basketball IQ, discipline and he doesn’t make anyone better when he is on the court. Agree that some of this is the coaches fault. As the coach has a responsibility to help develop his players. At Wynford the Crall kid is a similar player (same grade - Soph). Crall is currently leading the N10 in scoring. He too takes a lot of shots to get his points. He is outside the top 10 in Assists but does have decent rebounding & steal stats. He is 5’10 ish and as I said a very similar player to Alslip but a much better team player and way higher b-ball IQ. Both players will struggle to get to the next level if they don’t figure out a way to make their teammates better when their on the court. A great example of what I am saying is the McCreary kid from Crawford (also a soph)... this kid is 2nd in the league in scoring BUT he is 1st in the league I. Assists averaging 8.4 per game, which is double the next closest player who is at 4.2. The McCreary kid accounts for 17 pts a game in scoring and at minimum if all assists were 2 point assists another 17 pts which adds up to 34 pts at minimum he is responsible for per game. This is a kid who makes other players better when he is on the court. The Galion kid needs to work on figuring out how to be a complete player along with being a much smarter player.
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Post by 4 on Jan 18, 2018 1:09:00 GMT -5
Alsip very selfish player. i was higher on him last year until truly seen what he is. he can get hot at times but a poor % shooter bad IQ makes bad choices, doesn’t distribute, gets blown by on defense. Has a lot of growing up to do in his junior and senior year. And if galion coaching staff isn’t gonna do it i’m afraid it won’t happen. He plays AAU too i’m sure and there’s no defense in that so i’m sure iso ball will be his thing forever
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2018 8:22:20 GMT -5
Both players will struggle to get to the next level if they don’t figure out a way to make their teammates better when their on the court. Who in their right mind is talking next level with a Galion player?
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Post by galion on Jan 18, 2018 8:36:59 GMT -5
Just because you play for a crap team doesn't mean that you don't have the talent to play in college. There are D2 and 3 colleges all over the place. With all due respect, after the wrestling meet yesterday I saw the b ball team wandering onto the court. Do they even condition? Some of those kids look like they are a big mac away from a heart attack. Just watching them "warm up" I saw maybe 3 serviceable varsity players. Granted nobody is going to accuse us of having an elite coaching staff but as the saying goes "you can't make chicken salad with chicken ****.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2018 9:07:35 GMT -5
My question was not a reflection of the team or the program. The question(maybe better worded) was asking, who is looking for a sophomore that takes a lot of shots? I have not heard of any accomplishments outside of shooting a lot. Could we all imagine how many kids would average 15+ points a night if every kid who played was allowed to shoot 20 times in a game. High school teams all across Ohio have volume shooters. It doesn't make them college material from what we have seen.
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Post by galion on Jan 18, 2018 9:46:48 GMT -5
Well Dude, since you're the expert on b ball talent in the area please tell me who else on the team should be taking the shots instead. Not saying that there's no room for improvement, or that getting getting other people involved in the offense wouldn't be beneficial. If he gives the ball up then the person he gives the ball up to needs to make a play. Who else on the team has demonstrated the ability to do this on a consistent basis. Besides, after all of the football records that have fallen due to cherry picking against weaker competition, I suppose it's only fair that Nate's fall in a similar fashion.
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Post by gt1975 on Jan 18, 2018 11:13:38 GMT -5
Just because you play for a crap team doesn't mean that you don't have the talent to play in college. There are D2 and 3 colleges all over the place. With all due respect, after the wrestling meet yesterday I saw the b ball team wandering onto the court. Do they even condition? Some of those kids look like they are a big mac away from a heart attack. Just watching them "warm up" I saw maybe 3 serviceable varsity players. Granted nobody is going to accuse us of having an elite coaching staff but as the saying goes "you can't make chicken salad with chicken ****. They don't condition. They said the coach tells them their conditioning is built into their drills. That's fine if your doing tough drills but they say their practices are easy.... But I think the players you are talking about are mostly JV players. The Varsity team only has one player that is big.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2018 11:15:56 GMT -5
Un-wrinkle your panties, that isn't at all what I was saying. Having the best shooter on the team take more shots than others makes perfect sense but does that translate into being a college player. Every team has a best player/shooter, it doesn't mean they can play college basketball and it doesn't mean they are untalented.
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