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Post by redmen62 on Sept 3, 2018 20:49:14 GMT -5
With the league split up into 3 will they eventually play each other? Example Lakota taking on Clyde,Bellevue, Colombian etc or no. Wasn't sure if they would or not
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 20:57:00 GMT -5
Not in the major money sports (football, basketball) there are some crossover games between a few of the schools in football and basketball. The schools might play each other in other sports just to fill a schedule but you will never see the smaller schools playing the bigger schools in the major sports.
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Post by redmen62 on Sept 3, 2018 23:46:46 GMT -5
Okay good I was hoping no those teams would get slaughtered lol
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Post by redmen62 on Sept 3, 2018 23:47:19 GMT -5
Not* Okay good I was hoping no those teams would get slaughtered lol
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Sept 4, 2018 6:17:02 GMT -5
There are no forced crossovers, but any of the schools from the 3 divisions can play each other in voluntary non conference matchups.
In the first season of the 3 division setup last year there actually were a couple Lake-River football matchups as Norwalk played both Willard and Margaretta. There were also several Bay-River matchups that year.
However, now that the River Division is at 8 football schools, there are almost no crossovers involving them. The only River division crossover this year is Willard-Shelby, which technically doesn't count since Shelby isn't officially in the league, plus Willard will be moving up to the Bay next year (joining all their other sports) as incoming Hopewell-Loudon will take their spot in the River. Going forward, the only crossovers will be between 6 team Lake and Bay divisions, as the River Division schools will have 7 league games and tend to fill their weeks 1-3 non conference schedules with schools from the FC, N10, NBC, TAAC, etc.
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Post by Funfan on Sept 19, 2018 14:24:48 GMT -5
Just wondering, after this season and with Shelby leaving and a few more schools are added to the River division, is there any plans on moving schools around or they going to stay as is? This is just not a football question, its all sports question.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Sept 19, 2018 16:17:14 GMT -5
Just wondering, after this season and with Shelby leaving and a few more schools are added to the River division, is there any plans on moving schools around or they going to stay as is? This is just not a football question, its all sports question. For football next year, Hopewell-Loudon will join the River and Willard will move up to the Bay, keeping the the football alignment at 6-6-8. For most of the other sports the 2018-19 alignment is 6-7-8 (Shelby is already gone from the Lake to the MOAC, Margaretta and Willard are already in the Bay, and New Riegel and Old Fort are already in the River.) As far as I know the only change to that will be adding H-L to the River to make it 6-7-9. Also, there at least some sports that only have 2 Divisions (the one sure example I know of is girls golf which has 7 in the Lake and 8 in the Bay), and I'm not sure which exact sports have that setup or how adding H-L will affect them.
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Post by kingmartinez on Sept 19, 2018 19:47:40 GMT -5
Vermilion moves to the Lake in 2019-20 so it will be 7-6-8 in most sports (except football).Football will be 6-6-9, I believe. In FB - Vermilion moves to Bay and Margaretta to River. Willard is full-time Bay, starting 2019-20.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Sept 19, 2018 21:28:47 GMT -5
Vermilion moves to the Lake in 2019-20 Interesting, I hadn't heard that That only adds up to 21. There will be 22 total schools. Wouldn't it be 7-6-9? Though if that's the case what's the point of putting Vermilion in the Lake if you still have a division with only 6 teams in it while another has 9? Or is a River school moving to the Bay to make it 7-7-8? That adds up to 21, and there will only be 20 football schools. Pretty sure it will be 6-6-8. They are both already in those divisions in FB
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Post by clydesbcfan on Sept 20, 2018 4:48:22 GMT -5
Vermilion moves to the Lake in 2019-20 Interesting, I hadn't heard that That only adds up to 21. There will be 22 total schools. Wouldn't it be 7-6-9? Though if that's the case what's the point of putting Vermilion in the Lake if you still have a division with only 6 teams in it while another has 9? Or is a River school moving to the Bay to make it 7-7-8? That adds up to 21, and there will only be 20 football schools. Pretty sure it will be 6-6-8. Football - 6-6-8 Most everything else 7-6-9 Sports such as Tennis, Golf, Soccer - depends on number of schools.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Sept 20, 2018 18:01:17 GMT -5
Vermilion moves to the Lake in 2019-20 so it will be 7-6-8 in most sports (except football).Football will be 6-6-9, I believe. In FB - Vermilion moves to Bay and Margaretta to River. Willard is full-time Bay, starting 2019-20. Vermilion said they would not join the SBC if they had to play in the Lake.
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Post by kingmartinez on Sept 20, 2018 19:09:12 GMT -5
Vermilion moves to the Lake in 2019-20 so it will be 7-6-8 in most sports (except football).Football will be 6-6-9, I believe. In FB - Vermilion moves to Bay and Margaretta to River. Willard is full-time Bay, starting 2019-20. Vermilion said they would not join the SBC if they had to play in the Lake. That's not correct. Vermilion joined the SBC before the Lake-Bay-River setup was even discussed. Vermilion's first year in was 2016 but they joined before those discussions began. They will be in the Lake starting next school year (except football). The appealed to stay in the Bay but their appeal wasn't accepted. They understand why they will move and are being good league-mates about it.
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Post by kingmartinez on Sept 20, 2018 19:22:40 GMT -5
Vermilion moves to the Lake in 2019-20 Interesting, I hadn't heard that That only adds up to 21. There will be 22 total schools. Wouldn't it be 7-6-9? Though if that's the case what's the point of putting Vermilion in the Lake if you still have a division with only 6 teams in it while another has 9? Or is a River school moving to the Bay to make it 7-7-8? 7-6-9 is correct. The thought was it's easier for the Bay to go or down than Lake so Bay will be able to play more non-division games within the conference (or elsewhere).That adds up to 21, and there will only be 20 football schools. Pretty sure it will be 6-6-8. You are correct - 6-6-8. They are both already in those divisions in FB - The point being they will be moving divisions from football to other sports.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Sept 21, 2018 15:32:25 GMT -5
Vermilion said they would not join the SBC if they had to play in the Lake. That's not correct. Vermilion joined the SBC before the Lake-Bay-River setup was even discussed. Vermilion's first year in was 2016 but they joined before those discussions began. They will be in the Lake starting next school year (except football). The appealed to stay in the Bay but their appeal wasn't accepted. They understand why they will move and are being good league-mates about it. ALL knew that there were going to be Divisions in the NEW SBC. No one knew what the names of the Divisions would be, when schools were being recruited and applying. There were 15 schools in the first year of the NEW SBC, Vermilion was one of them. They made it clear that they did not want to be in the "big school" Division. They were not put in the "big school" division. As you point out, V "appealed" the powers to be moving them up to the Lake, in which they had no input. That alone supports my post and what I was told by an AD at the time. Being "good league-mates", since there is now no where to go. Maybe in the future, unless they can get themselves back down into the Bay.
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Post by 2112 on Sept 21, 2018 18:40:34 GMT -5
It seems to me that if V wants out of the Lake so badly, they will start making efforts to recruit big schools into the SBC so they can be pushed back down.
Ross* Maumee* Bowling Green* Harding Clay Steele
Pick any 3 of these (I prefer the starred teams) and you can lock up the Lake at 8, push Bellevue and Vermilion back down into the Bay, to make an even 8 with Marg and Willard. Need one more team to make 8 for football in the River once HL joins, Seneca East, Mohawk, or Woodmore could be options.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Sept 23, 2018 9:07:09 GMT -5
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Post by kingmartinez on Sept 23, 2018 10:10:38 GMT -5
It seems to me that if V wants out of the Lake so badly, they will start making efforts to recruit big schools into the SBC so they can be pushed back down. Ross* Maumee* Bowling Green* Harding Clay Steele Pick any 3 of these (I prefer the starred teams) and you can lock up the Lake at 8, push Bellevue and Vermilion back down into the Bay, to make an even 8 with Marg and Willard. Need one more team to make 8 for football in the River once HL joins, Seneca East, Mohawk, or Woodmore could be options. They don't want out of the Lake "badly". They just preferred to play in they Bay for a few reasons. They should have been in the Lake to begin with but the conference agreed to swap Shelby and Vermilion. They can more than compete in the Lake for the sports they will be in there, especially boys basketball and baseball. It's where they should be IMO. The Bay is the division with the most instability. Oak Harbor could one day look west (NBC) and Willard could one day look south (MOAC or N10). Should there be any further exits, the Lake and River will be the divisions that will endure another wave of change in the future.
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Post by maplecityjake on Sept 23, 2018 21:46:16 GMT -5
BG and Maumee won't leave NLL for SBC, and SBC won't take Ross
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Post by kingmartinez on Dec 9, 2018 8:20:18 GMT -5
Hearing rumblings that Maumee's unhappiness in the NLL continues...even mention of possibly interest in the SBC Lake.
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Post by dude on Dec 9, 2018 8:50:46 GMT -5
Hearing rumblings that Maumee's unhappiness in the NLL continues...even mention of possibly interest in the SBC Lake. Why in heaven would they be interested in a league with over 1 hour drives. Or more so, why would the SBC want to put it's schools in that position?
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Post by maplecityjake on Dec 9, 2018 8:52:03 GMT -5
I wonder how those Panthers will like the trips to the Maple City?
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Post by footballfan on Dec 9, 2018 11:37:22 GMT -5
Hearing rumblings that Maumee's unhappiness in the NLL continues...even mention of possibly interest in the SBC Lake. Why in heaven would they be interested in a league with over 1 hour drives. Or more so, why would the SBC want to put it's schools in that position? Most teams already do that do to no teams playing cross over games!!!! I'm pretty sure SBC doesn't care about the schools drives!!!!
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Post by kingmartinez on Dec 9, 2018 14:51:10 GMT -5
Having one school in the Lake that involves a drive isn't a big deal for those currently in that division but I agree with questiong Maumee's position. Closest drive would be Clyde? 48 miles...Maumee to Vermilion is a quick 80 miler.
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Post by dude on Dec 9, 2018 15:43:05 GMT -5
Why in heaven would they be interested in a league with over 1 hour drives. Or more so, why would the SBC want to put it's schools in that position? Most teams already do that do to no teams playing cross over games!!!! I'm pretty sure SBC doesn't care about the schools drives!!!! What schools in the SBC make drives of over an hour for a league game?
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Post by footballfan on Dec 9, 2018 16:41:47 GMT -5
I was talking non-league!!!! Look at Bellevues schedule. Canton, Clear Fork, West Holmes, Toledo Start, and Shelby being the closest non-league game. It's not a big deal for the fans just the travel for the schools. Teams the same or close to the same size won't cross play them like p.c., Huron (maybe this year I hope), vermilion (but they will play them in bball LOL), & Oak Harbor. Pretty sure SBC didn't design the league for school travel. Hope they get some more schools to get to a 8-8-8 league. That would make it one of the best leagues in Ohio I think. The Lake is already very competitive just need to add two more and it would be a great league. IMOA
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2018 18:41:48 GMT -5
I was talking non-league!!!! Look at Bellevues schedule. Canton, Clear Fork, West Holmes, Toledo Start, and Shelby being the closest non-league game. It's not a big deal for the fans just the travel for the schools. Teams the same or close to the same size won't cross play them like p.c., Huron (maybe this year I hope), vermilion (but they will play them in bball LOL), & Oak Harbor. Pretty sure SBC didn't design the league for school travel. Hope they get some more schools to get to a 8-8-8 league. That would make it one of the best leagues in Ohio I think. The Lake is already very competitive just need to add two more and it would be a great league. IMOA We are going to be stuck at 6-6-8 in football for a while.
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Post by dude on Dec 9, 2018 20:04:35 GMT -5
I was talking non-league!!!! Look at Bellevues schedule. Canton, Clear Fork, West Holmes, Toledo Start, and Shelby being the closest non-league game. It's not a big deal for the fans just the travel for the schools. Teams the same or close to the same size won't cross play them like p.c., Huron (maybe this year I hope), vermilion (but they will play them in bball LOL), & Oak Harbor. Pretty sure SBC didn't design the league for school travel. Hope they get some more schools to get to a 8-8-8 league. That would make it one of the best leagues in Ohio I think. The Lake is already very competitive just need to add two more and it would be a great league. IMOA Non-league is irrelevant. You have to get what you can and sometime travel is unavoidable.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Dec 9, 2018 20:39:07 GMT -5
Maumee is in a really nice situation when it comes to travel, as the NLL is a fairly tightly grouped conference and they're right in the middle of it. Their HS to HS drive times in minutes according to Google maps are: 35 NP, 27 BG, 23 NV, 21 SV, 17 AW, 14 HS, 14 PB
Why would they want to leave that to go to a league where the closest is 57 minutes and the rest are all over an hour?
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Post by maplecityjake on Dec 9, 2018 23:30:48 GMT -5
Why would they want to leave that to go to a league where the closest is 57 minutes and the rest are all over an hour? They just now heard of Berry's in uptown Norwalk
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2018 10:58:05 GMT -5
Why would they want to leave that to go to a league where the closest is 57 minutes and the rest are all over an hour? They just now heard of Berry's in uptown Norwalk That would be a reason not to join
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