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Post by sportsjock on Jan 30, 2019 9:35:53 GMT -5
Disappointed that Holtmann couldn't convince Potter that he would have had a larger role on this team. He wasn't a star, but man we sure could have used him this year it seems to me. No help at all for Wesson from LeeDee. Undermanned once again last night. I keep Hearing great things about Carton our future PG from Iowa. You’re really hung up on below average basketball player that didn’t want to be in Columbus Below average or not, Potter could have helped us this year.
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Post by dude on Jan 30, 2019 10:06:38 GMT -5
I would rather have 2 below average big guys than just the one.
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Post by buckeyekid on Jan 30, 2019 11:37:42 GMT -5
Not "hung up" on Potter at all. I do think he had potential to help us at a position of need, and it's hurting us not having him. I just don't understand why we could not convince him to stay this year as it sure seems like he would have had a significant role.
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Post by dude on Jan 30, 2019 13:09:59 GMT -5
Not "hung up" on Potter at all. I do think he had potential to help us at a position of need, and it's hurting us not having him. I just don't understand why we could not convince him to stay this year as it sure seems like he would have had a significant role. When you saw some of the preseason scrimmage it didn't look like they wanted him. He was regularly late to get into the contest and a couple times got on the floor after the walk-ons had already been put in.
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Post by sportsjock on Jan 30, 2019 17:03:14 GMT -5
Not "hung up" on Potter at all. I do think he had potential to help us at a position of need, and it's hurting us not having him. I just don't understand why we could not convince him to stay this year as it sure seems like he would have had a significant role. When you saw some of the preseason scrimmage it didn't look like they wanted him. He was regularly late to get into the contest and a couple times got on the floor after the walk-ons had already been put in. Sounds like he's been in the dog house for some time.
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Post by ronburgandy on Feb 10, 2019 20:30:05 GMT -5
Ohio State has now won 3 in a row but none of the three have come easy. Having Kyle Young back has really helped with rotations and just bringing energy to the team.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 11, 2019 19:52:48 GMT -5
Ohio State has to win 4 of their remaining 6 games to make THE tournament. That gets them to 20 wins and one game above a .500 record in the Big ten. That won't be easy as 4 of the 6 are against ranked opponents. Minnesota, just a half game behind Ohio State only has to play 2 of 7 against ranked opponents. If OSU doesn't win 4 of the remaining 6 they will have to get to the Big Ten Tournament Semi-Finals to have a chance of making THE tournament.
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Post by ronburgandy on Feb 14, 2019 21:19:18 GMT -5
Horrible loss by Ohio state to Illinois tonight. Making the tourney just got much harder.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2019 22:00:51 GMT -5
Couple things I’ve noticed: 1) The Wessons basketball iq’s are very low. 2) B1G officials are the worse of the major conferences 3) the fact that the Bucks have won 2/3 of their games averaging a turnover every 5 possessions is both unreal and horrible
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Post by buckeyekid on Feb 17, 2019 13:57:40 GMT -5
At half Vs MSU today OSU playing with more sense of urgency,, up 6 This is the team we saw in December,,,,,
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Post by buckeyekid on Feb 17, 2019 14:49:01 GMT -5
up 4 mid 2nd half ,,,blown call on an obvious MSU turnover and it's all down hill after that. Ref's sucked as did OSU's shooting % making a winnable game unwinnable. My Goodness what a shiit performance in the 2nd half.
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Post by ronburgandy on Feb 17, 2019 14:59:54 GMT -5
The missed over and back call was big.
But the game was tied at 42 with around 6 minutes to go or so and ended up losing 62-44. What the hell?
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Post by buckeyekid on Feb 17, 2019 15:19:41 GMT -5
we can't finish in transition, and when the refs don't call the hacks or bumps---it's not gonna be good. Must have been 8-9 misses in transition situations. We look like a team that's 2 decent players away from being pretty good. Just not enough scorers.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 17, 2019 16:30:08 GMT -5
Jackson is by far the worst PG in the Big Ten. Good lord he had 7 turnovers against Illinois and must average 4 or 5 per game.
If Kaleb Wesson doesn't lose another 20 pounds and learn how to move his feet and keep his hands off players on defense. He'll be replaced in the starting line up next year. Can't win games when your Center is the worst in the Big Ten at handling the pick and roll.
Ohio State won't win another game in the regular season, as they play the top 5 teams in the league. All ranked in the Top 25 in the country. They'll be lucky to win one in the Big Ten Tourney. They won't even get a good seed in the NIT.
This team is going to really hurt Holtmann's recruiting in the 2020 and 2021 classes. No way is the highly thought of 7 footer at Gallia Academy coming to Ohio State after seeing this mess.
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Post by ronburgandy on Feb 17, 2019 18:00:18 GMT -5
Jackson is by far the worst PG in the Big Ten. Good lord he had 7 turnovers against Illinois and must average 4 or 5 per game. If Kaleb Wesson doesn't lose another 20 pounds and learn how to move his feet and keep his hands off players on defense. He'll be replaced in the starting line up next year. Can't win games when your Center is the worst in the Big Ten at handling the pick and roll. Ohio State won't win another game in the regular season, as they play the top 5 teams in the league. All ranked in the Top 25 in the country. They'll be lucky to win one in the Big Ten Tourney. They won't even get a good seed in the NIT. This team is going to really hurt Holtmann's recruiting in the 2020 and 2021 classes. No way is the highly thought of 7 footer at Gallia Academy coming to Ohio State after seeing this mess. Thats a bit extreme. One game isn’t going to affect classes 2 years from now. And that 7 footer isn’t even at Gallia Academy anymore.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 18, 2019 0:51:18 GMT -5
Not one game, the embarrassing season. That's what's extreme. They'll end up having an overall losing record. After starting out 13-1.
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Post by sportsjock on Feb 18, 2019 7:00:34 GMT -5
Jackson is by far the worst PG in the Big Ten. Good lord he had 7 turnovers against Illinois and must average 4 or 5 per game. If Kaleb Wesson doesn't lose another 20 pounds and learn how to move his feet and keep his hands off players on defense. He'll be replaced in the starting line up next year. Can't win games when your Center is the worst in the Big Ten at handling the pick and roll. Ohio State won't win another game in the regular season, as they play the top 5 teams in the league. All ranked in the Top 25 in the country. They'll be lucky to win one in the Big Ten Tourney. They won't even get a good seed in the NIT. This team is going to really hurt Holtmann's recruiting in the 2020 and 2021 classes. No way is the highly thought of 7 footer at Gallia Academy coming to Ohio State after seeing this mess. Thats a bit extreme. One game isn’t going to affect classes 2 years from now. And that 7 footer isn’t even at Gallia Academy anymore. Could he possibly be the the 7-1 kid that just arrived at IMG? But I'm guessing the kid at IMG is much younger.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 7:56:16 GMT -5
Still in as a 9 seed according to Jerry Palm
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2019 15:29:32 GMT -5
Always thought Andre Wesson was more of a MAC player than a B1G player and was recruited to get his brother. Welp his brother looks more like a MAC player every game. Thanks Thad
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Post by ronburgandy on Feb 23, 2019 15:48:49 GMT -5
Always thought Andre Wesson was more of a MAC player than a B1G player and was recruited to get his brother. Welp his brother looks more like a MAC player every game. Thanks Thad Yeah he sure looked like a MAC player when he had 25 against Michigan State. Thanks Thad? He was the #1 ranked player in Ohio as a senior. I’d be thanking Thad too for making sure he stays home.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2019 16:17:43 GMT -5
Always thought Andre Wesson was more of a MAC player than a B1G player and was recruited to get his brother. Welp his brother looks more like a MAC player every game. Thanks Thad Yeah he sure looked like a MAC player when he had 25 against Michigan State. Thanks Thad? He was the #1 ranked player in Ohio as a senior. I’d be thanking Thad too for making sure he stays home. well he had a whomping 7 points today. I don’t care where someone is from. Get me basketball players that are good
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Post by ronburgandy on Feb 23, 2019 16:30:33 GMT -5
Yeah he sure looked like a MAC player when he had 25 against Michigan State. Thanks Thad? He was the #1 ranked player in Ohio as a senior. I’d be thanking Thad too for making sure he stays home. well he had a whomping 7 points today. I don’t care where someone is from. Get me basketball players that are good He is good, players are allowed to have down games, especially when playing against a guy that is projected to be a first round pick. You know what would help him too? If his teammates could make outside shots. Work it inside out, and if outside shots start falling, opens up the inside for him too. Can you imagine if Thad had not recruited him? The #1 player in Ohio in your backyard and you let him go somewhere else.
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Post by buckeyekid on Feb 24, 2019 7:35:10 GMT -5
Luther M is definitely hitting that Freshman wall. His last 3-4 games his shooting % is terrible. Hope he gains a 2nd wind before too long. Played yesterday without a pg and actually stayed in the game, which I suppose gives a little hope once CJ returns. OSU is a lot of parts and pieces but not a complete team at present.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 24, 2019 14:13:39 GMT -5
CJ Jackson can hardly be called a PG, even though that is what he's listed as.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 14:36:12 GMT -5
well he had a whomping 7 points today. I don’t care where someone is from. Get me basketball players that are good He is good, players are allowed to have down games, especially when playing against a guy that is projected to be a first round pick. You know what would help him too? If his teammates could make outside shots. Work it inside out, and if outside shots start falling, opens up the inside for him too. Can you imagine if Thad had not recruited him? The #1 player in Ohio in your backyard and you let him go somewhere else. Last 10 games: Purdue 6 pts/3 rbs @nebraska 7 pts/11 rebs @michigan 12 pts/7 rebs Rutgers 27 pts/4 rebs Penn St 6 pts/2 rebs @indiana 10 pts/4 rebs Illinois 11 pts/5 rebs @michigan St 12 pts/9 rebs Northwestern 22 pts/8 rebs @maryland 7 pts/7 rebs Averages: 12 pts/6 rebs I agree he isn’t getting any help from his teammates from the perimeter, but he has to do better than 12 & 6 a game. Just because someone is from Columbus doesn’t mean you have to recruit them
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Post by ronburgandy on Feb 24, 2019 17:27:25 GMT -5
He is good, players are allowed to have down games, especially when playing against a guy that is projected to be a first round pick. You know what would help him too? If his teammates could make outside shots. Work it inside out, and if outside shots start falling, opens up the inside for him too. Can you imagine if Thad had not recruited him? The #1 player in Ohio in your backyard and you let him go somewhere else. Last 10 games: Purdue 6 pts/3 rbs @nebraska 7 pts/11 rebs @michigan 12 pts/7 rebs Rutgers 27 pts/4 rebs Penn St 6 pts/2 rebs @indiana 10 pts/4 rebs Illinois 11 pts/5 rebs @michigan St 12 pts/9 rebs Northwestern 22 pts/8 rebs @maryland 7 pts/7 rebs Averages: 12 pts/6 rebs I agree he isn’t getting any help from his teammates from the perimeter, but he has to do better than 12 & 6 a game. Just because someone is from Columbus doesn’t mean you have to recruit them Cherry picking just 10 games. For the season he’s averaging 14 and 6.5. Seems pretty good to me. Sullinger averaged 17 and 9 his two years at Ohio State so he’s not far off from someone who was a first round pick. And yes, if someone in Columbus is a top 100 player nationally you should be recruiting them. Matta got grief for not keeping Ohio guys here now you’re complaining for him keeping an Ohio guy here.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 19:44:15 GMT -5
Last 10 games: Purdue 6 pts/3 rbs @nebraska 7 pts/11 rebs @michigan 12 pts/7 rebs Rutgers 27 pts/4 rebs Penn St 6 pts/2 rebs @indiana 10 pts/4 rebs Illinois 11 pts/5 rebs @michigan St 12 pts/9 rebs Northwestern 22 pts/8 rebs @maryland 7 pts/7 rebs Averages: 12 pts/6 rebs I agree he isn’t getting any help from his teammates from the perimeter, but he has to do better than 12 & 6 a game. Just because someone is from Columbus doesn’t mean you have to recruit them Cherry picking just 10 games. For the season he’s averaging 14 and 6.5. Seems pretty good to me. Sullinger averaged 17 and 9 his two years at Ohio State so he’s not far off from someone who was a first round pick. And yes, if someone in Columbus is a top 100 player nationally you should be recruiting them. Matta got grief for not keeping Ohio guys here now you’re complaining for him keeping an Ohio guy here. cherry picking? That’s funny. How you play during your conference season and the end of the season is a true barometer.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 24, 2019 21:04:21 GMT -5
Do you account for the MANY times he gets doubled when he gets the ball in the post? After which he dutifully passes it to an open teammate instead of putting up a shot. If he didn't get into foul trouble so often he would score more points.
How many points should he be averaging as a Sophomore? Before answering, take into account the following. The Top 10 Centers in Ohio State history.
10 Lawrence Funderburke 14.7, 3 years 9 Frank Howard 17.4, 4 years 8 Ken Johnson 8.3, 4 years 7 Greg Oden 15.7, 1 year 6 Terence Dials 11.9, 4 years 5 Brad Sellers 17.8, 2 years, played 2 years for Wisconsin (I completely forgot this) 4 Luke Witte 16.6, 3 years 3 Clark Kellogg 14.9, 3 years 2 Perry Carter 12.8, 4 years 1 Herb Williams 17.4, 4 years
Caleb Wesson is currently averaging 14.4/game. The above player's average ALSO includes games against early season opponents.
According to the above list 17.4 would be a GREAT number. If he averaged 3 more/game how many more wins does that equate to?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2019 20:57:46 GMT -5
Justin Ahrens has arrived!
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Post by buckeyekid on Feb 26, 2019 21:31:58 GMT -5
needs to be a part of the rotation --period brings a lot of energy.
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