sbc95
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Post by sbc95 on Oct 7, 2018 23:44:55 GMT -5
Fremont Ross needs to be invited in
Bellevue Clyde Fremont Norwalk Perkins Sandusky Tiffin
Why hasn’t this happened??
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Post by galion on Oct 8, 2018 0:46:11 GMT -5
Again with Fremont Ross? Don't you start a thread like this every year?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2018 5:34:23 GMT -5
Could be wrong but i am pretty sure Fremont has 300-400 more students than any of the other schools listed.
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Post by notsofast on Oct 8, 2018 6:48:15 GMT -5
Fremont Ross needs to be invited in Bellevue Clyde Fremont Norwalk Perkins Sandusky Tiffin Why hasn’t this happened?? Ross applied to the SBC in 2017 and were voted down by a landslide. Clyde and Bellevue are driving the SBC and do not want Ross in. Simply too big for their liking. The SBC says they want 8 teams in each division but thus far are only willing to add small schools. Ross OHSAA enrollment figures are 100+ boys bigger than the Lake Division SBC schools.
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Post by 1percenter on Oct 8, 2018 7:26:52 GMT -5
Fremont Ross, nah. The SBC needs to convince Ashland, Madison, Mansfield and Lexington to join.
Football division and boys enrollment SBC Lake D2 408 Ashland D3 376 Madison D3 332 Mansfield Sr D3 332 Tiffin Columbian D3 328 Norwalk D3 317 Sandusky D3 314 Clyde D3 301 Lexington
SBC Bay D3 267 Perkins D4 261 Bellevue D4 241 Port Clinton D4 229 Vermilion D4 207 Huron D4 197 Edison D5 181 Oak Harbor D5 169 Willard
SBC River D6 146 Lakota D6 129 Gibsonburg D6 119 Margaretta D7 97 Hopewell-Loudon D7 61 Tiffin Calvert D7 61 Sandusky SMCC D7 55 Danbury D7 54 Fremont St Joe
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Post by 1percenter on Oct 8, 2018 7:29:59 GMT -5
Ross OHSAA enrollment figures are 100+ boys bigger than the Lake Division SBC schools. Yep, they are 200 boys bigger than Bellevue, the smallest Lake school. 461 Fremont Ross 261 Bellevue
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Post by shadowking on Oct 8, 2018 10:18:56 GMT -5
Maybe Bellevue needs to goto the middle division. They can’t even beat Perkins as it is now.
I realize this is a dead horse but everyone takes the “numbers” way too seriously. Its more of a scapegoat if anything. If Sandusky can beat Ross three years in a row the rest in the Lake could do so likewise.
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Post by maplecityjake on Oct 8, 2018 10:59:50 GMT -5
Fremont Ross, nah. The SBC needs to convince Ashland, Madison, Mansfield and Lexington to join. Football division and boys enrollment SBC Lake D2 408 Ashland D3 376 Madison D3 332 Mansfield Sr D3 332 Tiffin Columbian D3 328 Norwalk D3 317 Sandusky D3 314 Clyde D3 301 Lexington SBC Bay D3 267 Perkins D4 261 Bellevue D4 241 Port Clinton D4 229 Vermilion D4 207 Huron D4 197 Edison D5 181 Oak Harbor D5 169 Willard SBC River D6 146 Lakota D6 129 Gibsonburg D6 119 Margaretta D7 97 Hopewell-Loudon D7 61 Tiffin Calvert D7 61 Sandusky SMCC D7 55 Danbury D7 54 Fremont St Joe I really like this setup
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Post by maplecityjake on Oct 8, 2018 11:41:55 GMT -5
I realize this is a dead horse but everyone takes the “numbers” way too seriously. Its more of a scapegoat if anything. If Sandusky can beat Ross three years in a row the rest in the Lake could do so likewise. I'm not sure it's exclusively a numbers issue
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Post by bigboy97 on Oct 8, 2018 13:09:25 GMT -5
Fremont Ross, nah. The SBC needs to convince Ashland, Madison, Mansfield and Lexington to join. Football division and boys enrollment SBC Lake D2 408 Ashland D3 376 Madison D3 332 Mansfield Sr D3 332 Tiffin Columbian D3 328 Norwalk D3 317 Sandusky D3 314 Clyde D3 301 Lexington SBC Bay D3 267 Perkins D4 261 Bellevue D4 241 Port Clinton D4 229 Vermilion D4 207 Huron D4 197 Edison D5 181 Oak Harbor D5 169 Willard SBC River D6 146 Lakota D6 129 Gibsonburg D6 119 Margaretta D7 97 Hopewell-Loudon D7 61 Tiffin Calvert D7 61 Sandusky SMCC D7 55 Danbury D7 54 Fremont St Joe I really like this setup Sandusky probably wouldnt love that travel..
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Post by maplecityjake on Oct 8, 2018 20:07:25 GMT -5
Sandusky probably wouldnt love that travel.. Sandusky has had a history of traveling, and have played those non-league games against those schools. No big deal. Better than TCL
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Post by Nelson on Oct 8, 2018 20:12:27 GMT -5
Maybe Bellevue needs to goto the middle division. They can’t even beat Perkins as it is now. I realize this is a dead horse but everyone takes the “numbers” way too seriously. Its more of a scapegoat if anything. If Sandusky can beat Ross three years in a row the rest in the Lake could do so likewise. I agree shadow its merely a numbers game Someone said invite Ashland, isn't Ashland division 2, you might as well add ross.We have beaten Fremont 3 yrs straight.
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Post by sportsvideo on Oct 8, 2018 20:19:05 GMT -5
instead of looking toward mansfield our focus needs to be western ohio..
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Post by shadowking on Oct 8, 2018 20:21:15 GMT -5
Speaking of the Toledo City League, they are basically propping up the Lake division since they refuse to play the crossover games. If the TRAC ever absorbed the TCL back the SBC would be screwed in weeks 4 and 5. Hello Youngstown and Cincinnati. Looks like the old habits of the NOL die hard. How many years until the bottom division breaks away and forms their own league.
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Post by richrod on Oct 8, 2018 20:40:10 GMT -5
shadow, I agree with you. why hasn't the river just created their own league by now?
Also, rumor has it the TCL is looking to play more of the Bay teams, which will really hurt the Lake.
I feel like this league was poorly thought out with too many special interests taken care of instead of doing what was best for the whole
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Oct 8, 2018 20:40:25 GMT -5
Speaking of the Toledo City League, they are basically propping up the Lake division since they refuse to play the crossover games. If the TRAC ever absorbed the TCL back the SBC would be screwed in weeks 4 and 5. Hello Youngstown and Cincinnati. Looks like the old habits of the NOL die hard. How many years until the bottom division breaks away and forms their own league. The way it is now with the Lake and Bay both at 6 teams, you have all 12 schools from those divisions looking for games in weeks 4 and 5. Some play each other in unforced crossovers, some play one of the 6 TCL schools that also have weeks 4 and 5 open, some find other random teams in week 4 and 5. Most do some sort of combination of these possibilities. There's currently a decent amount of flexibility. Let's say Ross gets added to the Lake. Now the Lake has 7 and the Bay has 6. Now you have 6 Bay schools all looking for games in weeks 4 and 5, plus... 1 Lake school looking for a game in week 4 1 Lake school looking for a game in week 5 1 Lake school looking for a game in week 6 1 Lake school looking for a game in week 7 1 Lake school looking for a game in week 8 1 Lake school looking for a game in week 9 1 Lake school looking for a game in week 10 .....this is where your "hello Youngstown and Cincinnati" line comes in
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Post by maplecityjake on Oct 8, 2018 20:45:40 GMT -5
Maybe Bellevue needs to goto the middle division. They can’t even beat Perkins as it is now. I realize this is a dead horse but everyone takes the “numbers” way too seriously. Its more of a scapegoat if anything. If Sandusky can beat Ross three years in a row the rest in the Lake could do so likewise. I agree shadow its merely a numbers game Someone said invite Ashland, isn't Ashland division 2, you might as well add ross.We have beaten Fremont 3 yrs straight. Ashland was recently a Div III. Besides, as I stated, I think it's more. Much like the NLL should a spot open. Ross won't be embraced.
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Post by shadowking on Oct 8, 2018 20:55:36 GMT -5
Each division needs to get to 8. One is there already the others are doing a repeat of the NOL. Even if you add just one member its a step in the right direction. Supposedly the scheduling problem was supposed to take care of itself with the crossovers. If they can’t even agree to those terms this league won’t last long.
Personally I think Fremont would make sence in this league from a backdoor rivalry standpoint. But the way this league is ran by the old guard scares the crap out of me. The SBC has a deeeeep football tradition and there’s no excuse why the divisions are still short handed. Schools should be knocking the door down trying to get in. Thats a big red flag to me.
Fremont would be better off if the TRAC and TCL combined again and a two division was set up.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Oct 8, 2018 21:13:20 GMT -5
Even if you add just one member its a step in the right direction. At the expense of temporarily making the schedule situation worse than it was before until the 8th member finally gets added. You've made it clear that you think it's a mistake to do the same things the NOL did.....but don't you realize that adding a 7th member without knowing when or who the potential 8th member might be is exactly that the NOL did 4 years before it died?
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Post by sbc95 on Oct 9, 2018 7:15:48 GMT -5
Bottom line Clyde just doesn’t want Fremont Ross in I believe these Lake teams as of now would give Ross good games every year .. The way it looks is Football in Fremont has been down for years and so has the number of boys playing the game .. I and others would love for Fremont to be in this conference...But I’m sure this will never happen!!
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Post by dolittle on Oct 9, 2018 7:36:24 GMT -5
nelson/sbc95 needs to taP out.
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Post by Hummingbird on Oct 9, 2018 7:51:51 GMT -5
Bottom line Clyde just doesn’t want Fremont Ross in I believe these Lake teams as of now would give Ross good games every year .. The way it looks is Football in Fremont has been down for years and so has the number of boys playing the game .. I and others would love for Fremont to be in this conference...But I’m sure this will never happen!! i think its just more than clyde. ross is on an island. too big for local, not big enough or good enough to compete in the trac. go independent. its bellevue, perkins, the middle and river don't want them either. sandusky is really the only one in their corner. get facts straight.
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Post by berg19 on Oct 9, 2018 10:59:11 GMT -5
Most schools have there schedules for next year set.
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Oct 9, 2018 11:38:02 GMT -5
Who's ready for some hack transitive property football scores and Calpreps? I am.
Let's say that Clyde is one of the louder voices opposing Fremont Ross. How often is it feasible that they would lose to Fremont Ross in football? I have no idea what the other sports look like for Fremont Ross, but here's the football case:
2017
Clyde Calpreps...........: 33.7, loses to Toledo Central Catholic by 18, 45-27 Fremont Ross Calpreps: 22.6, loses to Toledo Central Catholic by 20, 27-7
2016
Clyde Calpreps...........: 30.5, loses to Lexington in OT by 1 point in playoffs, who go on to lose to TCC by 19, 19-0 Fremont Ross Calpreps: 12.4, loses to TCC by 17, 35-18
2015
Clyde Calpreps...........: 40.2, loses to TCC by 10 points, 35-25 Fremont Ross Calpreps: 25.2, loses to TCC by 62 points, 69-7
2014
Clyde Calpreps...........: 35.3, loses to TCC by 32 points, 35-3 Fremont Ross Calpreps: 31.9, loses to TCC by 32 points, 83-51 (slightly different games played here)
2013
Clyde Calpreps............: 45.1, beats TCC by 1 point, 42-41 Fremont Ross Calpreps: 23.2, loses to TCC by 28 points, 35-7
I should say I don't think Fremont Ross is an all-around smart addition. It could be for some sports, but if I were a super at Clyde, I would have to have a strong faith that the football program, among other sports, could maintain this stretch of competence in the long-term.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2018 19:38:29 GMT -5
Ashland, and Richland county schools should never be invited to join the SBC. Too far for them to come here, and too far for most of us to go there, for league games. Shelby was closer, and they still didn't like the travel. I expect Willard to want out for that reason, It's too far.
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Post by bgsu07 on Oct 10, 2018 6:59:39 GMT -5
Ross doesn't want to join the SBC. They already tried to drop Clyde from basketball this year and next year the Little Giants will not play Clyde. Part of Cahill's interview is that he wanted to stay in the TRAC and his goal is to compete in that league year in and year out.
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Post by Nelson on Oct 10, 2018 18:17:41 GMT -5
Ross applied last year Chad berndt (Fremont ad) said but was turned down unanimously.
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Post by Nelson on Oct 10, 2018 18:27:13 GMT -5
Ross needs to stay out and deal with there problems or go independent.
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Post by maplecityjake on Oct 10, 2018 18:35:08 GMT -5
If I am not mistaken, and a bit of irony, Ross was instrumental getting the TRAC off the ground
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Post by sbc95 on Oct 10, 2018 18:38:41 GMT -5
I think adding Ross would be good for the SBC .. I believe Tiffin Bellevue Norwalk Perkins and Clyde could compete in Football and other sports too .. Huron played Sandusky so honestly what is the big deal ??
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