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Post by DrTorch on Oct 11, 2019 11:16:15 GMT -5
how does one over pay for an autograph? lolZ, this is a Free Market Economy, the market for autographs is whatever someone is willing to pay OK, so if normal people stop by the Easton Mall autograph signing kiosk and pay some 5 star recruit from Pickerington $5 for his autograph that's cool. But if a Michigan alum stops by and pays him $10K and says there's more where that came from if you go to Michigan. Does the Pickerington player accept the scholarship from Ohio State or Michigan? Does he talk to the next OSU alum and tell him Michigan just paid me $10K what are you going to do? Are you bothered at all by that scenario? no i am not not even a little but I am curious to know why you think autographs and "Likeness" are the same thing?
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Post by DrTorch on Oct 11, 2019 11:20:31 GMT -5
i do find it hilarious tho that no one seemed to have a problem with the NCAA making tons of $$$$ of off the likenesses of these players without their permission in all their NCAA video games/jersey sales, or the auto dealership here in C-Bus who was using a picture of James Laurinaitis to promote their business without his permission (or knowledge)
where is the outrage over that? why do you guys side with a faceless money-hungry entity over a bunch of kids and young adults who in a lot of cases don't have a pot to pi$$ in?
Shout out to "Easy" Ed O'Bannon for fixing that.
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Post by cbus on Oct 11, 2019 15:03:46 GMT -5
I have a problem with that too. I just don't want the best football team to go to the highest bidder. How can Alabama alums compete with USC/UCLA wealthy Hollywood fans when it comes to paying recruits?
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Post by DrTorch on Oct 11, 2019 16:44:22 GMT -5
why not? the best football coach goes to the highest bidder eh?
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Post by sportsjock on Oct 11, 2019 18:04:18 GMT -5
why not? the best football coach goes to the highest bidder eh? Essentially you are promoting and endorsing the trashing of NCAA football and creating another form of the NFL, from the rubble.
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Post by DrTorch on Oct 11, 2019 19:10:20 GMT -5
i am endorsing a free market economy which is exactly what you do on other threads
don't hate me because i am consistent
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Post by DrTorch on Oct 11, 2019 19:15:47 GMT -5
and getting paid for your likeness is not pay to play, it's getting paid for your likeness, ya know, something you already own?
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Post by sportsjock on Oct 11, 2019 20:09:06 GMT -5
and getting paid for your likeness is not pay to play, it's getting paid for your likeness, ya know, something you already own? Now, that may be a very good point. I agree with you, but will the courts agree with that logic? This is going to be a long, drawn out process of contestable litigation. I have zero problem with an amateur athlete, getting what is rightfully theirs. Again, I think there is a workable process, to award the athlete their rightful share of generated profits and still preserve our amateur system of athletics.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 11, 2019 20:24:05 GMT -5
A typical position by the losing side of a debate. lolz You are just being argumentative for the sake of being argumentative. And you aren't??
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 11, 2019 20:28:28 GMT -5
Justin Fields is taking online classes so he has enough time to study being a QB AND study for his classes. He doesn't even have enough time to know what campus or Columbus is like. With all the time required to to run a $100,000 business of selling ones likeness, both QB study time and class study time will suffer considerably. UNLESS he can get ONE booster to pay him $100,000 for ONE autographed jersey.
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Post by heresjim on Oct 11, 2019 20:37:04 GMT -5
You are just being argumentative for the sake of being argumentative. And you aren't?? There is being argumentative for the sake of clarifying a stance or to drive a point, and then there is argueing for the sake of being argumentative.
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Post by Green Falcon on Oct 11, 2019 21:13:06 GMT -5
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 11, 2019 21:17:00 GMT -5
There is being argumentative for the sake of clarifying a stance or to drive a point, and then there is argueing for the sake of being argumentative. YUP, that's what you're doing. You don't present facts. You lack knowledge. You spew BS. You're lazy, you do no research.
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Post by heresjim on Oct 11, 2019 22:36:57 GMT -5
There is being argumentative for the sake of clarifying a stance or to drive a point, and then there is argueing for the sake of being argumentative. YUP, that's what you're doing. You don't present facts. You lack knowledge. You spew BS. You're lazy, you do no research. I'm actually curious what the response is when people get to this point with you. Do most people just block you? Does anyone argue with you long term? Do you argue with people in real life like this? Do they mostly avoid you after awhile, or are you still able to maintain relationships with them? I'm just wondering what the intentions are behind using language like this.
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Post by DrTorch on Oct 12, 2019 7:39:29 GMT -5
Justin Fields is taking online classes so he has enough time to study being a QB AND study for his classes. He doesn't even have enough time to know what campus or Columbus is like. With all the time required to to run a $100,000 business of selling ones likeness, both QB study time and class study time will suffer considerably. UNLESS he can get ONE booster to pay him $100,000 for ONE autographed jersey. IT'S 2019 YOU TOOL EVERYBODY TAKES ONLINE CLASSES Good lord.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 13, 2019 15:18:41 GMT -5
IGNORAMUS FOOL. WHERE DID I SAY THAT JUSTIN FIELDS WAS THE ONLY STUDENT THAT DID?? He could be one of a very few that lives on or near campus and yet takes ALL of his courses online.
Bad Dr.
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Post by DrTorch on Oct 13, 2019 15:33:24 GMT -5
because given the choice students will choose to schlep all the way across campus to attend classes in person when they can take them online?
good grief
he is taking them online the same reason everyone else does anything online, convenience...football has very little to do with it, they were discussing this on Carpenter and Rothman the other day
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 13, 2019 16:20:03 GMT -5
YUP, that's what you're doing. You don't present facts. You lack knowledge. You spew BS. You're lazy, you do no research. I'm actually curious what the response is when people get to this point with you. Do most people just block you? Does anyone argue with you long term? Do you argue with people in real life like this? Do they mostly avoid you after awhile, or are you still able to maintain relationships with them? I'm just wondering what the intentions are behind using language like this. I only argue with the few of your ilk. The type who told us that Ontario had at least 4 players on a team that were FBS school players, when only 1 got a scholarship from an FBS school The type who told us that there is no such thing as FBS and that the top division in college football is called "Division 1" The type who told us Ontario had just as much talent as RV and should have won that game. The type who always blames coaches for the short comings of a team. The type who fails to answer ALL pertinent questions posed. I WILL TREY AGAIN on the lastest.....You said Ontario had "generational talent coming". Tell us where this "generational talent" is. I've tried over and over and over to show the fallacy of your claims that had no factual data(opinions only) by presenting facts and data, but to no avail.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 13, 2019 16:27:35 GMT -5
because given the choice students will choose to schlep all the way across campus to attend classes in person when they can take them online? good grief he is taking them online the same reason everyone else does anything online, convenience...football has very little to do with it, they were discussing this on Carpenter and Rothman the other day Then WHY go to "campus" to take courses when you don't need to go to "campus" to take courses? Justin Fields said the reason he chooses to take courses online is so he has more time to study his college courses and more time to study being a QB. Justin Fields is the most recognizable of the 50K students on campus. That in itself is a better reason to take on line courses compared to the schlepers. None of the schlepers have to study being a QB. Surely you're not suggesting Fields is a schleper?
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Post by heresjim on Oct 13, 2019 16:59:15 GMT -5
I'm actually curious what the response is when people get to this point with you. Do most people just block you? Does anyone argue with you long term? Do you argue with people in real life like this? Do they mostly avoid you after awhile, or are you still able to maintain relationships with them? I'm just wondering what the intentions are behind using language like this. I only argue with the few of your ilk. The type who told us that Ontario had at least 4 players on a team that were FBS school players, when only 1 got a scholarship from an FBS school The type who told us that there is no such thing as FBS and that the top division in college football is called "Division 1" The type who told us Ontario had just as much talent as RV and should have won that game. The type who always blames coaches for the short comings of a team. The type who fails to answer ALL pertinent questions posed. I WILL TREY AGAIN on the lastest.....You said Ontario had "generational talent coming". Tell us where this "generational talent" is. I've tried over and over and over to show the fallacy of your claims that had no factual data(opinions only) by presenting facts and data, but to no avail. Remember when I asked for you to quote where I said that, and you couldn't? You made up a quote word for word and you were unable to find it... Quote me where I said there was no FBS. Quote where I said division 1 was the highest division in football. I said Ontario had comparable talent to RV and I stand by that claim. This is true. I did not say they should have won the game, false. I blame the coaches for bad calls, no attempts at adjustments, poor planning and bad clock management. That's part of their job. And the reason why that question isn't pertinent is because I never said I knew when generational talent is coming. Quote me on the claim if you don't believe me. You are just making up claims. Start quoting the relevant information if you want to hold me accountable.
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Post by DrTorch on Oct 14, 2019 6:22:06 GMT -5
because given the choice students will choose to schlep all the way across campus to attend classes in person when they can take them online? good grief he is taking them online the same reason everyone else does anything online, convenience...football has very little to do with it, they were discussing this on Carpenter and Rothman the other day Then WHY go to "campus" to take courses when you don't need to go to "campus" to take courses? Justin Fields said the reason he chooses to take courses online is so he has more time to study his college courses and more time to study being a QB. Justin Fields is the most recognizable of the 50K students on campus. That in itself is a better reason to take on line courses compared to the schlepers. None of the schlepers have to study being a QB. Surely you're not suggesting Fields is a schleper? they don't rofl
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Post by sportsjock on Oct 14, 2019 8:10:34 GMT -5
What seems to be lost in this confrontational conversation is, the value of classroom interaction and open discussion, resulting in clarity and understanding of areas that may come into question. Online education has it's rightful place in today's busy world, fulfilling many needs, but also has it's limitations, compared to a live classroom setting.
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Post by Whittaker on Oct 14, 2019 9:51:59 GMT -5
What seems to be lost in this confrontational conversation is, the value of classroom interaction and open discussion, resulting in clarity and understanding of areas that may come into question. Online education has it's rightful place in today's busy world, fulfilling many needs, but also has it's limitations, compared to a live classroom setting. Good point. Iron sharpens iron I like to think of this forum as an online classroom. Some of you are drug-addled and some of you are a bit dull-witted and some of you can't construct a sentence to save your lives but I think of all of you as my students. You, sportsjock, just gave us a nice example of well constructed sentences and excellent grammar. The others would do well to take notice. That slacker DrTorch can't even be bothered to use a capital letter here or there. I suspect him of smoking the dope.
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Post by DrTorch on Oct 14, 2019 16:25:01 GMT -5
the fact that i run circles around you guys while on the dope does not reflect very highly on you
i mean clarity and understanding of issues is not something sportsjock has in spades, just for the record...i will give you a slight pass because at least you know who Bob Segar is :+/
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Post by Whittaker on Oct 14, 2019 16:46:55 GMT -5
the fact that i run circles around you guys while on the dope does not reflect very highly on you i mean clarity and understanding of issues is not something sportsjock has in spades, just for the record...i will give you a slight pass because at least you know who Bob Segar is :+/ Ha, you're a good sport doctor. I'm starting a 'Wacky Weed' thread after football calms down. I'll expect some quality, albeit poorly punctuated insight from you. BTW, Bob spells his last name Seger these days.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 14, 2019 21:22:30 GMT -5
Then WHY go to "campus" to take courses when you don't need to go to "campus" to take courses? Justin Fields said the reason he chooses to take courses online is so he has more time to study his college courses and more time to study being a QB. Justin Fields is the most recognizable of the 50K students on campus. That in itself is a better reason to take on line courses compared to the schlepers. None of the schlepers have to study being a QB. Surely you're not suggesting Fields is a schleper? they don't rofl Really?? Justin Fields isn't living in his mothers basement. LOLZ
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Post by sportsjock on Oct 14, 2019 23:34:08 GMT -5
the fact that i run circles around you guys while on the dope does not reflect very highly on you i mean clarity and understanding of issues is not something sportsjock has in spades, just for the record...i will give you a slight pass because at least you know who Bob Segar is :+/ Are you feeling threatened again? Ripping people doesn't elevate your status, my friend.
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Post by DrTorch on Oct 15, 2019 0:03:58 GMT -5
the fact that i run circles around you guys while on the dope does not reflect very highly on you i mean clarity and understanding of issues is not something sportsjock has in spades, just for the record...i will give you a slight pass because at least you know who Bob Segar is :+/ Ha, you're a good sport doctor. I'm starting a 'Wacky Weed' thread after football calms down. I'll expect some quality, albeit poorly punctuated insight from you. BTW, Bob spells his last name Seger these days. dude i can't even spell your name right and you've been posting here for years So it goes.
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Post by DrTorch on Oct 15, 2019 8:26:46 GMT -5
the fact that i run circles around you guys while on the dope does not reflect very highly on you i mean clarity and understanding of issues is not something sportsjock has in spades, just for the record...i will give you a slight pass because at least you know who Bob Segar is :+/ Are you feeling threatened again? Ripping people doesn't elevate your status, my friend. insults provided on this site are for entertainment purposes only except on the HS forums, people get a little nutty over there :+(
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Post by Birdman on Oct 15, 2019 22:14:09 GMT -5
I tried re-reading a bunch of comments and it’s just arguing..
Are we talking sports, or why my wiener is thicker yet shorter than yours?
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