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Post by buckeyekid on Jan 1, 2019 10:30:41 GMT -5
Read this morning that Mike Yurcich the present OC at another OSU--that being Oklahoma State University is a name that is in the picture in a big way. Euclid,Ohio native and has had major success with his role wherever he has been along the way of his near 18 years in college coaching. Seems like a good fit with his Ohio ties.
The more i think about it, if Day utilizes some of the successful attributes of Meyers' tenure at OSU,,,I think we're in good hands. Very strong infrastructure at OSU with the retaining of the best parts of the UFM regime. The one attribute that kinda remains to be seen is if Day can motivate all those under him like Meyer did. Urbans' ability to win big rivalry games and bowl games is very impressive. In 7 years, the only team that got the better of Meyer would be Clemson. And imo the reason we lost---the QB was a run first QB. With Haskins, that changed this year. I feel like Day will continue to run with the pass first QB. I know Martel thinks he's a shoe in to be the starter next year,,,but I'm pretty sure our QB will need to be a consistent pass threat guy if he is gonna run the show at OSU under Day. Maybe Martell is that guy,,,remains to be seen. Sounds like Justin Fields is heading our way once Haskins declares,,and why wouldn't he now that he's the #1 QB available in the draft.
Need to improve our O-Line and maybe get a better LB coach,,,but other than that---set up for success going forward in the post Meyer era.
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Post by sportsjock on Jan 1, 2019 12:47:03 GMT -5
Read this morning that Mike Yurcich the present OC at another OSU--that being Oklahoma State University is a name that is in the picture in a big way. Euclid,Ohio native and has had major success with his role wherever he has been along the way of his near 18 years in college coaching. Seems like a good fit with his Ohio ties. The more i think about it, if Day utilizes some of the successful attributes of Meyers' tenure at OSU,,,I think we're in good hands. Very strong infrastructure at OSU with the retaining of the best parts of the UFM regime. The one attribute that kinda remains to be seen is if Day can motivate all those under him like Meyer did. Urbans' ability to win big rivalry games and bowl games is very impressive. In 7 years, the only team that got the better of Meyer would be Clemson. And imo the reason we lost---the QB was a run first QB. With Haskins, that changed this year. I feel like Day will continue to run with the pass first QB. I know Martel thinks he's a shoe in to be the starter next year,,,but I'm pretty sure our QB will need to be a consistent pass threat guy if he is gonna run the show at OSU under Day. Maybe Martell is that guy,,,remains to be seen. Sounds like Justin Fields is heading our way once Haskins declares,,and why wouldn't he now that he's the #1 QB available in the draft. Need to improve our O-Line and maybe get a better LB coach,,,but other than that---set up for success going forward in the post Meyer era. Agree with your comments, but Day has expressed his pleasure with the play of the offensive line down the final stretch of the season. He said the OL has kept the QB clean and able to make the plays necessary.
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Post by DrTorch on Jan 1, 2019 13:50:19 GMT -5
things that stick out to me about the Urban Meye tenure:
1. the awful losses to bum teams, Iowa, VT, Purdue, MSU with their bacj up QB
2. the perplexing and detrimental loyalty to JT Barrett as a starter when better options were available, mainly an undefeated National Champion in Cardale Jones, and the Gunslinger Dwayne Haskins...Dabo and Saban, to their credit, were not hamstrung by sentiment
3. 7-0 vs UM is great but they were mostly all garbage UM teams, nothing like Tress or Cooper faced
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2019 13:53:52 GMT -5
things that stick out to me about the Urban Meye tenure: 1. the awful losses to bum teams, Iowa, VT, Purdue, MSU with their bacj up QB 2. the perplexing and detrimental loyalty to JT Barrett as a starter when better options were available, mainly an undefeated National Champion in Cardale Jones, and the Gunslinger Dwayne Haskins...Dabo and Saban, to their credit, were not hamstrung by sentiment 3. 7-0 vs UM is great but they were mostly all garbage UM teams, nothing like Tress or Cooper faced You’re a glass half empty guy
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Post by DrTorch on Jan 1, 2019 15:42:10 GMT -5
when the glass is full of kool-aid, yeah
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2019 19:24:36 GMT -5
This what I’ll remember about Urban:
1) 2014 national title 2) 7-0 against Michigan (I don’t care how good or bad they were) 3) beating Bama in the heart of SEC country
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Post by DrTorch on Jan 1, 2019 19:38:06 GMT -5
2014 with a QB that wasn't his recruit, if Barrett doesn't get hurt we don't win squadoosh.
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Post by buckeyekid on Jan 2, 2019 9:18:26 GMT -5
Meyer took over an OSU program that was in peril because of Coach Tressel's mistakes. note(I didn't agree with the BS things the program was punished for) But it happened on his watch. It was at a serious cross road that could have gone very badly with an average coach----see Luke Fickell and how he did in his season at the helm. Goes 12-0 in his initial season with essentially the same team that Fickell had gone 6-6 with. Gets a National Title in year 3 with some players he didn't recruit, but that might even be a bigger accomplishment as it was the hand he was forced to play. His team and program was left out of the playoffs 3 of the next 4 years in what I felt were very good and legit playoff teams who the committee deemed 5th best, but won their bowl games anyway. Ends his reign as OSU coach 86-9 in 7 seasons. Finishes 7-0 against Michigan Made one significant error in judgement in keeping Zach Smith employed longer than he should have. 2018 battled an issue in his brain that visibly caused him pain, and had the class to not lean on it as a crutch. Dealt with very unfair media coverage and an OSU administration who listened to Abigail Wexner and suspended him even longer than he deserved. Walked away honoring a contract he and his family made when first accepting the OSU job. Did this all with grace and class not seen too much in his profession. That is how I'll remember his tenure at OSU.
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Post by DrTorch on Jan 2, 2019 9:34:26 GMT -5
Fickell gets a bum rap. He took over a program with NO NOTICE when it desperately needed him. And when he took over, he still had Pryor.
We love Fickell down here because he took on a tremendous burden that (by his own admission) he was not ready for, and he did it because his alma mater asked him to. I remember his press conference, the poor guy was sweating bullets. He was basically being asked to step onto a firing range and he did, and he never whined or cried about it, never made an excuse about it, never once blamed anyone else. He just stfu snd took it. Because we needed him to.
I have more respect for Luke Fickell than just about any coach that has ever walked through the gates of the Shoe. I choose to remember Fickell for that awesome game vs WISCY, because if there was ever a coach that deserved a win like that, it was Fick.
And it was not essentially the same team, it was a team with a 2nd year starter at QB instead of a true Frosh, and it was a team with a year of experience under it's belt. It really pi$$es me off when Buckeye fans take shots at Fickell because those people are revisionist morons. Urban didn't take over Tressel's program, FICKELL DID. And Fickell coached them kids up, you could see it. Urban inherited a program that was full of BUCKEYES because they loved Fickell and he taught them what loyalty was all about.
And Fickell never got whitewashed by bum IOWA or PURDUE squads. Or VTech. Or MSU with a backup QB. All inexplicable losses imho and one that Urban can and should be held responsible for. Save for JT getting injured vs UM in 2014, he wouldn't have a National Title. ANd if JT hadn't gotten injured again in 2017, he wouldn't be 7-0 vs UM.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2019 9:51:09 GMT -5
2014 with a QB that wasn't his recruit, if Barrett doesn't get hurt we don't win squadoosh. Tressel won a title with everyone but Clarett not being his recruit. Just say you don’t like Urban.
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Post by DrTorch on Jan 2, 2019 10:41:24 GMT -5
Have you ever met Urban? I have.
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Post by dude on Jan 2, 2019 10:49:37 GMT -5
I have.
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Post by dude on Jan 2, 2019 11:04:20 GMT -5
2014 with a QB that wasn't his recruit, if Barrett doesn't get hurt we don't win squadoosh. I knew 2 kids on the roster when Urban took the job. His conditioning schedule and his meetings with players set the tone very early. If he did not want you there you were gone. He basically recruited the entire roster in one summer. If he did not see a position for you on his team you knew it. This is basically the same with any coach that takes over a program.
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Post by DrTorch on Jan 2, 2019 11:59:26 GMT -5
lol he tried to run off Kenny Guiton kid, how'd that work out?
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Post by dude on Jan 2, 2019 12:08:03 GMT -5
lol he tried to run off Kenny Guiton kid, how'd that work out? For Kenny, it worked out very well. Before Urban became the coach he had thrown 2 passes in 3 years and now he has a coaching career.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2019 12:30:55 GMT -5
Have you ever met Urban? I have. As a matter of fact yes. A long time ago
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Post by DrTorch on Jan 2, 2019 13:00:30 GMT -5
did you like him?
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Post by DrTorch on Jan 2, 2019 13:01:17 GMT -5
lol he tried to run off Kenny Guiton kid, how'd that work out? For Kenny, it worked out very well. Before Urban became the coach he had thrown 2 passes in 3 years and now he has a coaching career. then i guess it's a good thing Urban failed when he tried to get rid of him and he did try
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Post by dude on Jan 2, 2019 13:19:55 GMT -5
For Kenny, it worked out very well. Before Urban became the coach he had thrown 2 passes in 3 years and now he has a coaching career. then i guess it's a good thing Urban failed when he tried to get rid of him and he did try Like I said, when Urban came in he did a lot of things that forced some to decide if they wanted to stay or not. With what Kenny had done prior to Urban he would not have gone anywhere else and done better. It worked out for the Buckeyes and now Kenny has a coaching career. Had he not stayed in Columbus we will never know where he would be. What we do know is he was a much better player after Urban became the coach and is currently still involved in College football. Had he quit he may have had neither. Good job Kenny and thank you Urban.
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Post by ronburgandy on Jan 2, 2019 13:37:47 GMT -5
You’d think Torch was a Michigan fan with his posts about Urban.
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Post by ronburgandy on Jan 2, 2019 13:38:58 GMT -5
And how did a thread that was supposed to be about new assistants at OSU next year turn into this?
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Post by clb6110 on Jan 2, 2019 13:45:48 GMT -5
Sort of like the Willard bball thread.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2019 14:16:41 GMT -5
Didnt dislike him. Maybe he could smell the douche on you??
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Post by DrTorch on Jan 2, 2019 15:04:35 GMT -5
aw, namecalling, that is so adorable, what is Urban your boo? or does the fact that i am right about his tenure make you question your worship?
he's just a man, like many others, i'm an OSU fan not an Urban nut-swinger
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Post by DrTorch on Jan 2, 2019 15:06:07 GMT -5
You’d think Torch was a Michigan fan with his posts about Urban. Urban Meyer isn't OSU kid. I was wearing Scarlet and Grey in 2007, not blue and orange :+)
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Post by ronburgandy on Jan 2, 2019 15:46:50 GMT -5
Sort of like the Willard bball thread. Good point.
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Post by ronburgandy on Jan 2, 2019 15:47:25 GMT -5
You’d think Torch was a Michigan fan with his posts about Urban. Urban Meyer isn't OSU kid. I was wearing Scarlet and Grey in 2007, not blue and orange :+) What does Urban coaching at Florida have to do with anything?
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Post by DrTorch on Jan 2, 2019 15:55:26 GMT -5
it has to do with the fact that Urban and Ohio State are two different entities, just because I don't like Urban doesn't mean I don't like OSU
just because you can't separate the two doesn't mean I can't
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Post by maplecityjake on Jan 2, 2019 16:02:34 GMT -5
things that stick out to me about the Urban Meye tenure: 1. the awful losses to bum teams, Iowa, VT, Purdue, MSU with their bacj up QB 2. the perplexing and detrimental loyalty to JT Barrett as a starter when better options were available, mainly an undefeated National Champion in Cardale Jones, and the Gunslinger Dwayne Haskins...Dabo and Saban, to their credit, were not hamstrung by sentiment 3. 7-0 vs UM is great but they were mostly all garbage UM teams, nothing like Tress or Cooper faced Quite a few UM teams were garage during Cooper years as well; that's why he was so ridiculed. The talent he had going into The Game was superior; cripe, the awards OSU players had at the time was ridiculous.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2019 16:08:14 GMT -5
You’d think Torch was a Michigan fan with his posts about Urban. Urban Meyer isn't OSU kid. I was wearing Scarlet and Grey in 2007, not blue and orange :+) Neither is Tressel. I was wearing Scarlet and Grey in 1997, not black and red:+)
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