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Post by xlegend on Mar 14, 2019 16:38:40 GMT -5
Marcus Bruns is the only player on Coldwater roster that is not a part of the Football program. Nearly all of their guys that play significant minutes are starting in some capacity on the varsity team. Winning games like these come down to several things, but one that encompasses several aspects is having great focus.. ie rebounding, ball movement/control, defensive fundamentals etc. I did not watch the game, but from the way things have been discussed, there is a reason coldwater was able to win handedly. I interpret some of these responses as williard fans saying "the better team did not win" which i disagree with. This time of year the "better team" only matters on game night... you only have to be better on that night... the rest of the season goes out the window. Congrats to both schools on a great season, and best of luck to coldwater saturday. I don't think there is a single Willard fan that doesn't think the better team won. Not just the better team last night, but better on almost every night. agree c5. I just think we could of tried different things but that wouldn't of changed the outcome.like I say we'll be better next year.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 14, 2019 16:41:30 GMT -5
and 24 assists. Dann near that 2 to 1 ratio I was talking about earlier in the year. Some people say it can't be done. I say bs it can. As you admit, it wasn't even done here in a blowout win over a very good Willard team.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 14, 2019 16:43:41 GMT -5
Come on x, don't be untruthful. Show us where I said Coldwater HAD players that weighed 240. What I was implying was that they would be just as physical and strong if not more so than Willard, due to Coldwater football and the weight training they do over there. My thought was proven correct by Buckeyekid, when he said Coldwater players were more "physically mature". Just being 18 does not automatically make one "physically mature", that comes from work in the weight room. Even if some basketball players didn't play football, the same lifting coach is working with all athletes, Football. baseball AND basketball. I've seen Coldwater athletes that played all three sports. Some play multiple sports and most look similar physically. AGAIN, what kind of defense did Coach Haas coach you to play? nice back peddling willi. You are so blinded and hateful, you are not capable of recognizing truth when you see it. I was also proven correct by colt95's post above. You just don't get it. I congratulated Willard on a very good season, but realistically pointed out why Coldwater won so handily. There is nothing wrong with constructive criticism. How did you ever handle playing for coach Haas? For the THIRD time, what kind of defense did coach Haas teach you and all of his very good teams??
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Post by crimson5 on Mar 14, 2019 17:01:59 GMT -5
nice back peddling willi. You are so blinded and hateful, you are not capable of recognizing truth when you see it. I was also proven correct by c5's post above. You just don't get it. I congratulated Willard on a very good season, but realistically pointed out why Coldwater won so handily. There is nothing wrong with constructive criticism. How did you ever handle playing for coach Haas? For the THIRD time, what kind of defense did coach Haas teach you and all of his very good teams?? Coach Haas taught almost every defense in the book......man on man, 1-2-2, 2-3, 1-3-1, triangle and 2, box and 1.....however, when I played (early 80's) and X, Haas ran a 2-3 match up zone 95% of the time.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 14, 2019 17:32:53 GMT -5
AH....before the the 3-point line was implemented in Ohio, the 86-87 season. Coach Haas was a very intelligent coach. Back in your day the 2-3 zone was the defense of choice of most coaches. AFTER the 3-point shot became a weapon in high school. All good coaches played man defense the vast majority of the time. They had to, if they had the athletes. Man defenses didn't become good overnight. It had to be taught in 7th and 8th grade and up. The high school players had to work hard to change from playing zone most of the time.
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Post by crimson5 on Mar 14, 2019 17:35:08 GMT -5
AH....before the the 3-point line was implemented in Ohio, the 86-87 season. Coach Haas was a very intelligent coach. Back in your day the 2-3 zone was the defense of choice of most coaches. AFTER the 3-point shot became a weapon in high school. All good coaches played man defense the vast majority of the time. They had to, if they had the athletes. Man defenses didn't become good overnight. It had to be taught in 7th and 8th grade and up. The high school players had to work hard to change from playing zone most of the time. Exactly
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Post by mcm1019 on Mar 15, 2019 7:13:29 GMT -5
AH....before the the 3-point line was implemented in Ohio, the 86-87 season. Coach Haas was a very intelligent coach. Back in your day the 2-3 zone was the defense of choice of most coaches. AFTER the 3-point shot became a weapon in high school. All good coaches played man defense the vast majority of the time. They had to, if they had the athletes. Man defenses didn't become good overnight. It had to be taught in 7th and 8th grade and up. The high school players had to work hard to change from playing zone most of the time. Small correction, the 3-point shot was implemented in the 87-88 season
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Post by maplecityjake on Mar 16, 2019 18:42:01 GMT -5
Didn't want to start a new thread, but wanted to state Stritch is up on Coldwater 32-20 at the half.
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Post by portwalk on Mar 16, 2019 19:01:40 GMT -5
Not surprising
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Post by maplecityjake on Mar 16, 2019 19:10:56 GMT -5
It was 49-34 Stritch at end of 3.
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Post by mcm1019 on Mar 16, 2019 19:24:30 GMT -5
68-58, Stritch wins.
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Post by buckeyekid on Mar 16, 2019 19:25:18 GMT -5
I bet Coldwater didn't make 12 of 21 3's tonight. It kinda helps the cause. That being said, our man to man defense nor our zone was very good on Wednesday.
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Post by maplecityjake on Mar 16, 2019 19:30:55 GMT -5
It appears, though, Coldwater got hot in the 4th, but a little too late. Congratulations to the Cardinals!
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Post by maplecityjake on Mar 16, 2019 19:32:43 GMT -5
Looks like Stritch's 1st trip to State.
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Post by dude on Mar 16, 2019 22:32:10 GMT -5
I bet Coldwater didn't make 12 of 21 3's tonight. It kinda helps the cause. That being said, our man to man defense nor our zone was very good on Wednesday. No they did not. In this game they were defended on the 3 point line.
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Post by xlegend on Mar 16, 2019 22:47:35 GMT -5
AH....before the the 3-point line was implemented in Ohio, the 86-87 season. Coach Haas was a very intelligent coach. Back in your day the 2-3 zone was the defense of choice of most coaches. AFTER the 3-point shot became a weapon in high school. All good coaches played man defense the vast majority of the time. They had to, if they had the athletes. Man defenses didn't become good overnight. It had to be taught in 7th and 8th grade and up. The high school players had to work hard to change from playing zone most of the time. hey what if the coaches told the kids to stay back because they won't make them all night?
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Post by buckeyekid on Mar 17, 2019 7:26:27 GMT -5
Is there a box score anywhere for Stritch Coldwater game. I'm wondering how CW shot from 3.
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Post by dude on Mar 17, 2019 8:09:40 GMT -5
Is there a box score anywhere for Stritch Coldwater game. I'm wondering how CW shot from 3. 6 of 16
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Post by kniteflyer on Mar 17, 2019 8:55:19 GMT -5
agree that they are hot. But guess who else is hot.I think it'll be a great game. Yep, we are hot too. The players and coaches should go in confident that they will beat Coldwater, they just can't go in over confident or it will be 1 and done at BG. Once you get to the Regional level showing up with your 'B' game is daring the opposing team to send you home, a 'C' game or below and it's over. Exceptional play is a must and Willard's players are all capable of exceptional play. They have to bring 'A' game focus, intensity and attitude from here on out. They also need to take a few seconds to soak in the atmosphere and enjoy the amount of support they will be seeing in the stands (The Craig Krenzel way). Coldwater isn't going to roll over and quit either. They were down 34-30 with 50 seconds left vs Archbold and scrapped out a 35-34 win. They were down 9 (41-32) in the 3rd quarter vs O-G, scrapped back, took the lead and held on for the win. Willard must keep the intensity & focus up for a full 32 minutes, they can't get up 42-33 and think Coldwater is going to rollover, instead Coldwater doubles down (winners attitude that Willard had throughout the 1980s) Willard brought a 'D' game in 1975 - shot 28% and Rossford sent Willard home in easy fashion. Willard brought a 'D' Game in 1976 - shot 29% and Van Wert out scored Willard 35-20 in the 2nd half to send Willard home for the season. Bring that 'A' game like the 79, 80, 81, 82, 84, 87, 92, 01 teams did. Willard brought a "D" game (your assessment, not mine, I'd say "C") in both of their 1st 2 trips to the Regionals (75 + 76). They were unceremoniously dismissed by a Rossford team that was a whole bunch better. I remember that their veteran coach, Joe Stalma, got a technical in the "tunnel" entrance (old timers will remember the area behind the scorer's table and the "split" of the bleachers at half court that led to the Anderson Arena lockerrooms) at the beginning or end of halftime! Really changed the game in favor of the Bulldogs. In 1976, the Crimson Flashes were down 1 starter, All NW District player Rod Cok, immediately following a Sectional Final win due to an appendectomy. A 2nd starter, cousin Curt Cok, had repeated issues with his shoulder separating/dislocating during the District games at Ashland. Legend has it that he popped it out in the hours prior to the game in a Bowling Green hotel room (yes Virginia, Willard would leave school mid day and take up residence to relax and such to reduce the efforts of a long bus drive). Willard was forced to start an unproven sophomore point guard, Joe Jester. Jester was never the same, AND clashed with Coach Haas, so much so that he didn't even go out by the time he was a senior. This, along with the talent of another, by then, sophomore guard, John Willoughby, led to Haas starting both Willoughby and another sophomore, post Jim Kanable, in 1977-78.
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Post by edchambers on Mar 17, 2019 9:49:04 GMT -5
Is there a box score anywhere for Stritch Coldwater game. I'm wondering how CW shot from 3. 6 of 16 Official stats had them 6-17. Coldwater turned it over 20 times.
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Post by buckeyekid on Mar 17, 2019 16:19:34 GMT -5
for anyone who cares to watch search Youtube Stritch vs Coldwater 3-16-19 The whole game right there. Stritch reminds me of Oberlin 86' and 87'
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Post by maplecityjake on Mar 17, 2019 17:36:31 GMT -5
I may watch in a little bit; their punking Norwalk is still quite fresh to me.
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Post by buckeyekid on Mar 17, 2019 18:02:16 GMT -5
Pretty good team for being D3
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Post by dude on Mar 17, 2019 21:02:38 GMT -5
Official stats had them 6-17. Coldwater turned it over 20 times. Stats from Coldwater were 6-16 and 16 turnovers.
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