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Post by xlegend on Mar 18, 2019 14:37:25 GMT -5
The first thing in prepping for this thread is what I watched on Saturday at Ohio Dominican in the Liberty vs Pick North game. Ben Roderick the stud from OL played a nice game. What made OL so tough imo is that they did not run everything through and around Ben. There was lots of motion and lots of movement. IMO OL has 2 guys who look like future college hoopsters. One is a D1 guy in Roderick and the other Nick Nakasian, D2 and possibly D1,,,but lower end. The rest of the guys were contributors and all had a big part. The thing I noticed, was the team did not focus on letting Roderick be the beginning and end of each possession. He ended up as leading scorer with 21 and a Victory. Had he gotten 30, I'm thinking OL loses the game. Their defense was in your face and the execution superb by all 5 on the court. If Willard is going to take the next step in 2020, it might take that type of situation to get there. We can beat the Uppers and Careys' of the world with 3 nice players. But,,if we're gonna beat the OG/ Archbold/Coldwater type of team,,,it's gonna take 5 guys on the court, each being a threat to score and a willingness to rebound and defend.. agree but we'll only have 4 guys next year that can score. I feel that if Dawson can defend and rebound and chip in with 7 -8 points and Paxton with 10 and he's a playmaker and miles get us 14-15 then Parrott and baldridge should get the rest.must be done consistently.when Derek jimm6 and Nick hit the floor we knew what we were getting. That's were Skeeter and cooper need to get to.scoring is a part of it but not everything. I would like to add that a tougher schedule would also help.
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Post by ScarletFever on Mar 18, 2019 20:25:30 GMT -5
Dawson actually came in v Coldwater and had good minutes in limited action. Some that night were off or maybe overwhelmed. He wasn’t. Good sign for him.
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Post by crimson5 on Mar 18, 2019 21:04:31 GMT -5
Dawson actually came in v Coldwater and had good minutes in limited action. Some that night were off or maybe overwhelmed. He wasn’t. Good sign for him. Micah thrives on being challenged, especially if it's a defensive challenge...not worried about him next year. Coach B put him in significant situations this year to get him ready for the tourney and next year. He'll be a contributor next year. Unfortunately, Coach B didnt do the same for guard play. Paxton and Adelman saw very few meaningful minutes late in the season to progress their development in high pressure situations.
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Post by ScarletFever on Mar 18, 2019 21:11:56 GMT -5
crimson5 I seem to remember a cool no look zip pass from your son underneath to Skeeter if I remember correctly.
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Post by crimson5 on Mar 18, 2019 21:22:07 GMT -5
crimson5 I seem to remember a cool no look zip pass from your son underneath to Skeeter if I remember correctly. Touche
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Post by marchmadness on Mar 18, 2019 22:02:02 GMT -5
Dawson actually came in v Coldwater and had good minutes in limited action. Some that night were off or maybe overwhelmed. He wasn’t. Good sign for him. Micah thrives on being challenged, especially if it's a defensive challenge...not worried about him next year. Coach B put him in significant situations this year to get him ready for the tourney and next year. He'll be a contributor next year. Unfortunately, Coach B didnt do the same for guard play. Paxton and Adelman saw very few meaningful minutes late in the season to progress their development in high pressure situations. Paxton shot under 10% from the 3 and had more turnovers than assists. The coach can't play people who aren't ready yet.
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Post by dude on Mar 18, 2019 22:32:54 GMT -5
The first thing in prepping for this thread is what I watched on Saturday at Ohio Dominican in the Liberty vs Pick North game. Ben Roderick the stud from OL played a nice game. What made OL so tough imo is that they did not run everything through and around Ben. There was lots of motion and lots of movement. IMO OL has 2 guys who look like future college hoopsters. One is a D1 guy in Roderick and the other Nick Nakasian, D2 and possibly D1,,,but lower end. The rest of the guys were contributors and all had a big part. The thing I noticed, was the team did not focus on letting Roderick be the beginning and end of each possession. He ended up as leading scorer with 21 and a Victory. Had he gotten 30, I'm thinking OL loses the game. Their defense was in your face and the execution superb by all 5 on the court. If Willard is going to take the next step in 2020, it might take that type of situation to get there. We can beat the Uppers and Careys' of the world with 3 nice players. But,,if we're gonna beat the OG/ Archbold/Coldwater type of team,,,it's gonna take 5 guys on the court, each being a threat to score and a willingness to rebound and defend.. Nakasian has already decided to go to Carnegie Mellon University.
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Post by crimson5 on Mar 19, 2019 0:44:51 GMT -5
Micah thrives on being challenged, especially if it's a defensive challenge...not worried about him next year. Coach B put him in significant situations this year to get him ready for the tourney and next year. He'll be a contributor next year. Unfortunately, Coach B didnt do the same for guard play. Paxton and Adelman saw very few meaningful minutes late in the season to progress their development in high pressure situations. Paxton shot under 10% from the 3 and had more turnovers than assists. The coach can't play people who aren't ready yet. Agree, and I know there is a fine line for a coach to walk when throwing freshman into varsity action. All in all, Beddingfield did a good job with the roster, we just could have used another guard or 2 on the bench....regardless who it was.
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Post by buckeyekid on Mar 19, 2019 8:21:43 GMT -5
It's a big year for some role players of the 18-19 team.A chance to Get in the line up and make our team stronger. I hope we set our goals high as a team and then put in the individual time to improve skill sets.
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Post by xlegend on Mar 19, 2019 13:16:16 GMT -5
Dawson actually came in v Coldwater and had good minutes in limited action. Some that night were off or maybe overwhelmed. He wasn’t. Good sign for him. Micah thrives on being challenged, especially if it's a defensive challenge...not worried about him next year. Coach B put him in significant situations this year to get him ready for the tourney and next year. He'll be a contributor next year. Unfortunately, Coach B didnt do the same for guard play. Paxton and Adelman saw very few meaningful minutes late in the season to progress their development in high pressure situations. agree. You get better by playing. Freshmen are going to make mistakes but the coach has to keep the kids confidence and not give up on him there were plenty of games to get Micah and trey a lot more minutes,it almost caught up with us during the Carey game where trey had to come in but to his credit done a nice job.Micah is a strong kid and going to help. Beteween your sophomore and junior is probably the biggest jump of improvement in a kids career. Micah will be fine
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Post by dude on Mar 19, 2019 13:29:22 GMT -5
Girls job open up?
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Post by crimson5 on Mar 19, 2019 13:45:27 GMT -5
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Post by unconcernedcitizen on Mar 19, 2019 15:49:12 GMT -5
Cooper Parrott all Ohio honorable mention! Definitely deserved
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Post by clb6110 on Mar 19, 2019 18:02:30 GMT -5
A girls parent told me this AM that JD resigned at the awards banquet last night. Said it was time for family.
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Post by crimson5 on Mar 19, 2019 18:22:06 GMT -5
A girls parent told me this AM that JD resigned at the awards banquet last night. Said it was time for family. Wow, I am surprised. Good for JD. With Max and Micah both playing ball, and really good ball players, John has many years ahead to enjoy watching his boys play.
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Post by xlegend on Mar 19, 2019 19:36:27 GMT -5
Jd had a nice run as girls coach. Had some really talented teams. Good luck to him in his future endeavors....
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Post by crimson5 on Mar 19, 2019 19:37:46 GMT -5
A girls parent told me this AM that JD resigned at the awards banquet last night. Said it was time for family. Wow, I am surprised. Good for JD. With Max and Micah both playing ball, and really good ball players, John has many years ahead to enjoy watching his boys play. Not to mention, the girls program is in really good shape...not like the cupboards are bare. This opening should attract alot of attention from coaches.
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Post by crimson5 on Mar 19, 2019 20:35:58 GMT -5
Micah thrives on being challenged, especially if it's a defensive challenge...not worried about him next year. Coach B put him in significant situations this year to get him ready for the tourney and next year. He'll be a contributor next year. Unfortunately, Coach B didnt do the same for guard play. Paxton and Adelman saw very few meaningful minutes late in the season to progress their development in high pressure situations. Paxton shot under 10% from the 3 and had more turnovers than assists. The coach can't play people who aren't ready yet. Since you seem to have the stat sheet in your hand, care to share the other guards assist to turnover ratio? Care to share shooting percentages of other players. What determines if a player is ready, those 2 stats you spouted out? How does a player get ready, get the experience? I'm betting you've never laced up a pair of tennis shoes and stepped foot on the hardwood in you life..unless it was rec ball. Kids need to make mistakes in order to learn. Kids need to feel varsity game speed/size/strength in order to understand their limitations and adjust accordingly. Please enlighten me on how to determine when a player is ready, and how you get that player there.
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Post by marchmadness on Mar 19, 2019 21:06:59 GMT -5
Well since you asked. Parrott 43% from the 3 and 3.9 assts to 2.9 turnovers. Polachek 22% from 3. 3.3 asst to 2.2 turnovers. If you want to go beyond those stats, go ahead but you will find Paxton was only better statistically than Polachek in FT % and was not better than Parrott in any statistical category.
Cooper Parrott was All-Ohio. How many minutes a game would you play him? I would play him 30-32 (unless it's a blowout in the 4q) How many minutes would you play Polachek? 10 ppg, 3 year letterman. Positive asst/to ratio...24-26 mins? That doesn't leave many minutes for anyone else. Nothing personal, only 5 guys can play at a time.
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Post by xlegend on Mar 19, 2019 21:15:32 GMT -5
Well since you asked. Parrott 43% from the 3 and 3.9 assts to 2.9 turnovers. Polachek 22% from 3. 3.3 asst to 2.2 turnovers. If you want to go beyond those stats, go ahead but you will find Paxton was only better statistically than Polachek in FT % and was not better than Parrott in any statistical category. Cooper Parrott was All-Ohio. How many minutes a game would you play him? I would play him 30-32 (unless it's a blowout in the 4q) How many minutes would you play Polachek? 10 ppg, 3 year letterman. Positive asst/to ratio...24-26 mins? That doesn't leave many minutes for anyone else. Nothing personal, only 5 guys can play at a time. you must be real close to the program. I mean real close.to cone out with numbers on each kid.not the points or assists but the number of turnovers for each kid.where and how did you come up with those numbers. Obviously you missed the whole point of this anyway.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 19, 2019 21:16:38 GMT -5
Why would Willard be playing Freshmen on varsity this year" With the the starting five they had and the great Sophomore class this year that everyone has been talking about since they were in the 7th grade?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 19, 2019 21:23:51 GMT -5
The first thing in prepping for this thread is what I watched on Saturday at Ohio Dominican in the Liberty vs Pick North game. Ben Roderick the stud from OL played a nice game. What made OL so tough imo is that they did not run everything through and around Ben. There was lots of motion and lots of movement. IMO OL has 2 guys who look like future college hoopsters. One is a D1 guy in Roderick and the other Nick Nakasian, D2 and possibly D1,,,but lower end. The rest of the guys were contributors and all had a big part. The thing I noticed, was the team did not focus on letting Roderick be the beginning and end of each possession. He ended up as leading scorer with 21 and a Victory. Had he gotten 30, I'm thinking OL loses the game. Their defense was in your face and the execution superb by all 5 on the court. If Willard is going to take the next step in 2020, it might take that type of situation to get there. We can beat the Uppers and Careys' of the world with 3 nice players. But,,if we're gonna beat the OG/ Archbold/Coldwater type of team,,,it's gonna take 5 guys on the court, each being a threat to score and a willingness to rebound and defend.. The single most important aspect of what OL does that Willard must incorporate to advance further than a District Title is "in your face (man) defense". WAY too much concern about offense.
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Post by xlegend on Mar 19, 2019 21:24:13 GMT -5
Why would Willard be playing Freshmen on varsity this year with the the starting five they had and the great Sophomore class this year that everyone has been talking about since they were in the 7th grade? because the Freshman is better..why else?
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Post by crimson5 on Mar 19, 2019 21:29:19 GMT -5
Well since you asked. Parrott 43% from the 3 and 3.9 assts to 2.9 turnovers. Polachek 22% from 3. 3.3 asst to 2.2 turnovers. If you want to go beyond those stats, go ahead but you will find Paxton was only better statistically than Polachek in FT % and was not better than Parrott in any statistical category. Cooper Parrott was All-Ohio. How many minutes a game would you play him? I would play him 30-32 (unless it's a blowout in the 4q) How many minutes would you play Polachek? 10 ppg, 3 year letterman. Positive asst/to ratio...24-26 mins? That doesn't leave many minutes for anyone else. Nothing personal, only 5 guys can play at a time. you must be real close to the program. I mean real close.to cone out with numbers on each kid.not the points or assists but the number of turnovers for each kid.where and how did you come up with those numbers. Obviously you missed the whole point of this anyway. Absolutely he missed the entire point of this. You're numbers on Parrot 3 point shooting are off 😉. But nonetheless, you asked the question....how many minutes do you play him? My answer is....as many as I need to win the game comfortably. Just as it would be for any other starter. If you're comfortably ahead in the 2nd Q, then you find a 3/4 minute stretch for the youngsters to play/learn in meaningful minutes....especially if its Port Clinton, or Hopewell, or St. Paul, or Tiffin,or Edison, or Wynford. Then you find another 3/4 minute stretch in the 3rd Q and do the same. NOT the last 3/4 minutes of the game when its mop up time and essentially a repeat of the JV game.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 19, 2019 21:36:06 GMT -5
Why would Willard be playing Freshmen on varsity this year with the the starting five they had and the great Sophomore class this year that everyone has been talking about since they were in the 7th grade? because the Freshman is better..why else? Maybe the Sophomore class wasn't as good as many thought? What I've been told for the past 4 years was that the Sophomore class was going to return Willard to the glory days of the past. Willard was ahead of schedule this year, due to 2 transfers. The 2 most important players on the team. If the Freshman was better than all of the Sophomores, why wasn't he first off the bench instead of playing 4 quarters of JV ball?
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Post by marchmadness on Mar 19, 2019 21:37:38 GMT -5
You can't tell me to read stuff off the stat sheet and then tell me the stat sheet is wrong. I guess the stat sheet can be wrong with parent goggles on.
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Post by crimson5 on Mar 19, 2019 21:46:33 GMT -5
because the Freshman is better..why else? Maybe the Sophomore class wasn't as good as many thought? What I've been told for the past 4 years was that the Sophomore class was going to return Willard to the glory days of the past. Willard was ahead of schedule this year, due to 2 very important transfers. The 2 most important players on the team. You put out a post a few years ago about Willards Soph class, which I thought was right on. In a nutshell, you talked about maturing early. Some did, but will still contribute over the next couple years, one chose not to play, but hopefully will next year and will contribute substantially. Soph class is nice, Fresh class is maturing later and is also nice. Coop and Devon are 2 huge reasons for our success being a year early...no doubt. But, as it was said last year, the future depends on how quickly this soph and Fresh class mature into the varsity game.
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Post by xlegend on Mar 19, 2019 21:51:07 GMT -5
because the Freshman is better..why else? Maybe the Sophomore class wasn't as good as many thought? What I've been told for the past 4 years was that the Sophomore class was going to return Willard to the glory days of the past. Willard was ahead of schedule this year, due to 2 transfers. The 2 most important players on the team. If the Freshman was better than all of the Sophomores, why wasn't he first off the bench instead of playing 4 quarters of JV ball? he was the first guard off the bench. I don't want to mean but your out touch on this subject.
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Post by crimson5 on Mar 19, 2019 21:51:38 GMT -5
You can't tell me to read stuff off the stat sheet and then tell me the stat sheet is wrong. I guess the stat sheet can be wrong with parent goggles on. Lol, sure I'm a parent, EVERYONE knows that Captain Obvious. And you can elevate Coops 3 point shooting percentage to whatever u want, its irrelevant to the point. Coop is great and we need him to continue to be great.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 19, 2019 22:20:03 GMT -5
They way it sounded was that he played JV and a few minutes of unimportant varsity minutes. Now you're saying he was in the varsity rotation. The only way he could have gotten more minutes is if he was a varsity starter.
Not to be mean, but again you're out of touch with the written word.
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