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Post by galion on May 17, 2019 6:38:17 GMT -5
What was Baughns record as football coach of Galion? Even more what were the scores for those losses? What are his head coaches in the two biggest sports records that he hired? The only new coach he’s hired (outside of basketball and football) is girls softball. All the other coaches have been in place since he took over. Last I checked Galion’s football team was winning and winning league titles prior to Baughns pick. Is it possible that good quality coaches don’t apply because they know and have heard that maybe he’s not the right guy to work for ? How’d Baughns pick do as girls basketball coach And boys basketball coach the last few years ? Both programs are practically dead due to the condition precious coaches have left them. Can’t win in Galion? That’s what they said before Hawkins came in and turned around the football program in two years. Keep making excuses and the basketball programs will continue to be bottom feeders. Galion’s had talent. [ Oh no no no. Don’t you dare do that. You don’t get to compare what Hawkins did in that joke of a conference while we were in the NCC to what’s going on now. He had all of one conference title while he was here when NOT competing in the NCC. And why did he have a grand total of ZERO playoff wins with all of that talent? The girls basketball program has been dead for decades that’s not our current ad’s doing. And once again he can only hire the people who actually apply for the job |
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Post by dude on May 17, 2019 7:00:08 GMT -5
What in my statement makes you think it was not my opinion, which anyone can have. My sources are coaches, ADs, Admins and myself. I have not said your judgement was wrong but if you wore different shoes it may change. The performance assessment is typically a good reference. Do you give the Ashland AD credit for the Ashland Football success? Or the Clear Fork AD credit for the basketball team winning the MOAC this season? Or the Ontario AD credit for the basketball success? Some may say the only opinion that matters for Galion schools is Mr Grubbs. So ask him. Again what is that he is or is not doing that you are basing your opinion on What are you giving him credit for? What has he accomplished? How many times has the OHSAA been called? Those are all questions you can begin with to form your own opinion. My job is not to make your opinion for you. Step outside and talk to people in other sports than yours, talk to people in your league, talk to other ADs. |
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Post by dude on May 17, 2019 7:02:38 GMT -5
Oh no no no. Don’t you dare do that. You don’t get to compare what Hawkins did in that joke of a conference while we were in the NCC to what’s going on now. He had all of one conference title while he was here when NOT competing in the NCC. And why did he have a grand total of ZERO playoff wins with all of that talent? The girls basketball program has been dead for decades that’s not our current ad’s doing. And once again he can only hire the people who actually apply for the job You do know that most ADs recruit coaches that they want. Does your AD just sit back and wait for people to apply? |
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Post by gt1975 on May 17, 2019 9:49:18 GMT -5
I agree that the leadership needs to change... Don't waste your time arguing with galion about our AD. Fine change the "leadership" whatever that means. But first, tell me who you are going to replace them with. From what I can tell your main beef was Valentine and all of these great candidates we allegedly turned down at the time(which when researched at all turned out to be fiction). The job is open right now. Where are they? All 3 of the candidates brought up here just fill me with excitement for the direction of the program. You may want to do your research again. I've seen the pdf that the school sent a parent for a public records request. It had all the applications and resumes and they were all more qualified than a 6th grade coach. |
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Post by gt1975 on May 17, 2019 9:51:41 GMT -5
So what exactly are you judging his performance on? Outside of our 2 basketball programs the rest of our sports are actually achieving a reasonable amount of success. We've even launched a boys and girls soccer program. If that's not what you judge an athletic program by please enlighten me as to what else I should be looking for. You would have to step outside your bubble and define success. Is it winning records? League Titles? District Titles? Are you giving credit for the golf team success? Was he instrumental in building soccer teams? Many schools have success but can have employees who are of low value. How much of the sport's success began to develop in 2015? It is obvious you are inside and have a personal relationship, I do not, as well as the others who I have talked to. Even science teachers have opinions. "It it obvious you are an inside and have a personal relationship"... He's a track coach. |
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Post by gt1975 on May 17, 2019 16:01:50 GMT -5
Gossom was apparently put back into consideration.
Edit: they are hiring Gossom
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Post by buckeyeguy on May 17, 2019 16:32:56 GMT -5
One has to love how some people have to twist everything to make their reasoning better than someone else's. You can't count what Hawkins did on the field.... yet he turned around a losing program that got THUMPED every game for years. The point was that a good coach can and will come in and turn around a program. Diebler will turn around his new school that just went 5 and whatever last year. There have been better candidates apply in the past. Valentine was an absolute ridiculous hire. Quick hire or not - bad hire. As the last three seasons have proven.
Congratulations to Gossom on being the new coach.
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Post by dude on May 17, 2019 16:35:29 GMT -5
Gossom was apparently put back into consideration. Edit: they are hiring Gossom And this is all being ran by the guy that your buddy galion is crediting for the success of Galion Athletics. I was told Gossom got a call from the AD telling him he would not be called back for a second interview and now this. Some could consider this to be comical or even a "joke".   |
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Post by buckeyeguy on May 17, 2019 16:47:39 GMT -5
What was Baughns record as football coach of Galion? Even more what were the scores for those losses? What are his head coaches in the two biggest sports records that he hired? The only new coach he’s hired (outside of basketball and football) is girls softball. All the other coaches have been in place since he took over. Last I checked Galion’s football team was winning and winning league titles prior to Baughns pick. Is it possible that good quality coaches don’t apply because they know and have heard that maybe he’s not the right guy to work for ? How’d Baughns pick do as girls basketball coach And boys basketball coach the last few years ? Both programs are practically dead due to the condition precious coaches have left them. Can’t win in Galion? That’s what they said before Hawkins came in and turned around the football program in two years. Keep making excuses and the basketball programs will continue to be bottom feeders. Galion’s had talent. [ Oh no no no. Don’t you dare do that. You don’t get to compare what Hawkins did in that joke of a conference while we were in the NCC to what’s going on now. He had all of one conference title while he was here when NOT competing in the NCC. And why did he have a grand total of ZERO playoff wins with all of that talent? The girls basketball program has been dead for decades that’s not our current ad’s doing. And once again he can only hire the people who actually apply for the job Didn't Hawkins go 10-0 in the NOL? I believe I remember them beating Bellevue the last game of the season to do that. But it has been a while ago and my memory may be alluding me. |
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Post by buckeyeguy on May 17, 2019 16:49:52 GMT -5
Gossom was apparently put back into consideration. Edit: they are hiring Gossom And this is all being ran by the guy that your buddy galion is crediting for the success of Galion Athletics. I was told Gossom got a call from the AD telling him he would not be called back for a second interview and now this. Some could consider this to be comical or even a "joke". OUCH! Would take a strong desire to accept after that! |
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Post by gt1975 on May 17, 2019 17:28:04 GMT -5
Gossom was apparently put back into consideration. Edit: they are hiring Gossom And this is all being ran by the guy that your buddy galion is crediting for the success of Galion Athletics. I was told Gossom got a call from the AD telling him he would not be called back for a second interview and now this. Some could consider this to be comical or even a "joke". Definitely not my buddy. |
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Post by gt1975 on May 17, 2019 17:28:53 GMT -5
And this is all being ran by the guy that your buddy galion is crediting for the success of Galion Athletics. I was told Gossom got a call from the AD telling him he would not be called back for a second interview and now this. Some could consider this to be comical or even a "joke". OUCH! Would take a strong desire to accept after that! It would be tough but it's probably his only chance to get a head coaching job. |
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Post by dude on May 18, 2019 12:33:50 GMT -5
Gossom was apparently put back into consideration. Edit: they are hiring Gossom So now it is between Gossom, Endsley and Keene? |
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Post by gt1975 on May 18, 2019 12:51:08 GMT -5
Gossom was apparently put back into consideration. Edit: they are hiring Gossom So now it is between Gossom, Endsley and Keene? They are hiring Gossom. It's already on the BOE agenda for next week. |
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Post by dude on May 18, 2019 13:00:17 GMT -5
So now it is between Gossom, Endsley and Keene? They are hiring Gossom. It's already on the BOE agenda for next week. Amazing. |
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Post by giffiusmcohio74 on May 18, 2019 13:27:08 GMT -5
Congrats to Gossom for being selected as the next head coach! It's time for new leadership for the program and hopefully he's able to get the program turned around. I wish him nothing but the best!
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Post by dude on May 18, 2019 14:10:13 GMT -5
Posted it on March 29.
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Post by kniteflyer on May 19, 2019 13:34:52 GMT -5
One has to love how some people have to twist everything to make their reasoning better than someone else's. You can't count what Hawkins did on the field.... yet he turned around a losing program that got THUMPED every game for years. The point was that a good coach can and will come in and turn around a program. Diebler will turn around his new school that just went 5 and whatever last year. There have been better candidates apply in the past. Valentine was an absolute ridiculous hire. Quick hire or not - bad hire. As the last three seasons have proven. Congratulations to Gossom on being the new coach. You need to do just a tad more research on your Diebler comment. Danbury won't be "turning around" anytime soon. And, while I love the guy, and more so, his sons, his track record of "turning around" programs is almost non-existent. |
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Post by dude on May 20, 2019 9:55:50 GMT -5
I cannot imagine what has been going thru this guys head. Being told you are not in the top 2 choices for a second interview to getting a call saying we want to offer you the job.
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Post by galion on May 21, 2019 3:41:09 GMT -5
Oh no no no. Don’t you dare do that. You don’t get to compare what Hawkins did in that joke of a conference while we were in the NCC to what’s going on now. He had all of one conference title while he was here when NOT competing in the NCC. And why did he have a grand total of ZERO playoff wins with all of that talent? The girls basketball program has been dead for decades that’s not our current ad’s doing. And once again he can only hire the people who actually apply for the job You do know that most ADs recruit coaches that they want. Does your AD just sit back and wait for people to apply? 1. It seems to me to be a bit unethical for an AD to actively recruit people who are under contract to another school. That surely would seem to test the relationships between us and other school districts and AD's. But if you say that's how business is doneso be it. 2. Even IF he did actively recruit a replacement, he still can't get around that pesky CBA that puts a cap on the amount of experience that Galion is willing to pay an incoming teacher or coach. That's the reason that Hawkins never took a teaching job here and the primary reason that all of the finalists to replace him turned the job down. I still want to know where all of these amazing candidates are that we turned down to hire Valentine if Gossom and those other two were the best of our options. |
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Post by dude on May 21, 2019 6:56:23 GMT -5
You do know that most ADs recruit coaches that they want. Does your AD just sit back and wait for people to apply? 1. It seems to me to be a bit unethical for an AD to actively recruit people who are under contract to another school. That surely would seem to test the relationships between us and other school districts and AD's. But if you say that's how business is doneso be it. 2. Even IF he did actively recruit a replacement, he still can't get around that pesky CBA that puts a cap on the amount of experience that Galion is willing to pay an incoming teacher or coach. That's the reason that Hawkins never took a teaching job here and the primary reason that all of the finalists to replace him turned the job down. I still want to know where all of these amazing candidates are that we turned down to hire Valentine if Gossom and those other two were the best of our options. Every high school coach has a 1 year contract and is released from their contract at end of every school year. It is not uncommon for an AD or another admin to inform a coach that a position has come open at their school. Totally acceptable action that has been going on for over 30 years at least. No one said he had the ability to negotiate terms. But name 3 other schools that have gone thru interviews twice for a basketball opening and had multiple applicants walk away after being invited back for a second interview. |
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Post by gtab on May 30, 2019 10:49:12 GMT -5
You do realize that even IF he is building a house in the Crawford district his kids can still open enroll back to Galion right? No fair making sense ! ! !  |
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Post by gt1975 on May 30, 2019 14:05:16 GMT -5
You do realize that even IF he is building a house in the Crawford district his kids can still open enroll back to Galion right? No fair making sense ! ! ! From what I heard they're letting their son decide where he wants to play, Crawford or Galion. |
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Post by galion on Jun 2, 2019 20:59:06 GMT -5
You do realize that even IF he is building a house in the Crawford district his kids can still open enroll back to Galion right? Thus only play the first 11 games next season. I'm fairly confident that since he was always a Galion student, and most importantly established himself as a Galion student his freshman year that this would not apply to him. |
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Post by dude on Jun 2, 2019 21:32:44 GMT -5
Thus only play the first 11 games next season. I'm fairly confident that since he was always a Galion student, and most importantly established himself as a Galion student his freshman year that this would not apply to him. The transfer penalty is only in play if an athlete transfers schools after his freshman year. Changing local residence but staying in the same school building would not be an problem. |
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Post by gt1975 on Jun 17, 2019 13:22:36 GMT -5
According to a post in another thread and some people I've talked to, Valentine has been playing with Crawford this summer.
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Post by dude on Jun 18, 2019 6:40:41 GMT -5
Players from one school do not normally participate in team camps with other schools, although it is allowed. Does CC let kids from surrounding schools participate in their June events as a recruiting angle or is he living in his new house?
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Post by gt1975 on Jun 18, 2019 14:15:25 GMT -5
Players from one school do not normally participate in team camps with other schools, although it is allowed. Does CC let kids from surrounding schools participate in their June events as a recruiting angle or is he living in his new house? Last I heard their new house was still being built. Maybe it's been finished though. I heard he is for sure going to enroll at Crawford or possibly already has enrolled. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jun 18, 2019 22:36:47 GMT -5
A family is allowed to enroll their kids in a new school district if their new house is under construction, but not finished.
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Post by dude on Jun 19, 2019 4:01:40 GMT -5
Players from one school do not normally participate in team camps with other schools, although it is allowed. Does CC let kids from surrounding schools participate in their June events as a recruiting angle or is he living in his new house? Last I heard their new house was still being built. Maybe it's been finished though. I heard he is for sure going to enroll at Crawford or possibly already has enrolled. I would not be surprised if Sheldon required enrollment verification before allowing him into his practices and summer schedule. Which could have happened before the end of the school year or even as an open enrolled student. Regardless, it sounds like the Tiger is now an Eagle and the CCCC will benefit.  |
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