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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 24, 2020 22:30:16 GMT -5
There was NO cap before this super. Because there was NO Open Enrollment before this super. This super got a "taste" LONG before she came to Ontario. Before coming to Ontario she was Superintendent at Massilon schools. She used Open Enrollment there to solve their sever financial problems. Ontario is just one of the 85% of the public school Districts in Ohio that has Open Enrollment. The levy failed before she got here and pay to play and open enrollment was put into action. That was when the economy got real bad and no one was passing any new money. Since then even the city schools have passed new money levies. The super did not come for new money until this last go around out of fear of losing. The prior defeats were with the old super. We worked on those campaigns. The caps were indeed set in place to pass a renewal they wanted early on. EXACTLY as I said. Except, THREE levies failed before she got here. No new money was needed UNTIL "the last go round". It had nothing to do with "fear". More money was needed ONLY because of what the State did to Ontario schools. The State screwed small cities like Ontario that have A LOT of retail businesses. They eliminated the taxes on finished goods inventories on EVERY retail business in Ontario. ALSO, there is still residual tax considerations on the GM plant that closed in Ontario that keeps Ontario Schools from getting their full share of money from the State. ALSO, in recent years the State has reduced the amount of money given to Districts like Ontario, giving it to inner city Districts. IF the finished goods tax was not eliminated. IF the State would immediately give consideration for a major plant closure and IF the State would not be taking Ontario monies and giving it to other schools, no levy would have been needed for another 10 years. ALSO, someone made a major error in tax bills sent to Avita and MedCentral. After the fact, Ontario schools had to write a check to Avita for $500,000 and $250,000 to MedCentral. The "we helped" wasn't good enough. With advice from a few knowledgeable people, of which my daughter was one, an advertising firm that specializes in such things was hired to head up the campaign. A HUGE difference was noticed. Another HUGE reason this levy passed is the fact that it will be eliminated in 5-10 years once the bad karma short fall has been eliminated. There was no Open Enrollment before the current Super arrived, thus there were no "caps" before she arrived.
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Post by dude on Jan 24, 2020 23:18:30 GMT -5
Tonight's games
Madison 52 @ Wooster 61
Lexington 41 @ West Holmes 28
Ashland 55 @ Mt. Vernon 60
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Post by dude on Feb 1, 2020 8:06:18 GMT -5
Ashland 67 @ Shelby 63
Lexington 38 @ Madison 28
Mt Vernon 44 @ Mansfield 50
Wooster 53 @ West Holmes 43
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Post by maplecityjake on Feb 1, 2020 8:56:09 GMT -5
Seeing some of these Lex scores and knowing Norwalk, the first to score 30 wins?
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Post by dude on Feb 1, 2020 17:54:48 GMT -5
Seeing some of these Lex scores and knowing Norwalk, the first to score 30 wins? Lexington should be concerned about Mansfield right now as they are playing better. But I can understand your meaning behind the 30 comments.
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Post by dude on Feb 2, 2020 11:38:26 GMT -5
Team - OCC record - Overall record Wooster 10-0 14-1 Lexington 8-2 11-6 Mt Vernon 5-4 6-10 Ashland 4-5 7-10 Mansfield 4-5 5-9 Madison 2-7 5-12 W Holmes 0-10 4-14
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Post by smitty1974 on Feb 4, 2020 21:21:38 GMT -5
just in at ashland high school,madison 49 ashland 48 a shot from within 10 feet at the buzzer beat ashland. a bad loss at home for ashland.luke denbow only 5 points for ashland.this game was back and forth all the way ashland never had a big lead and madison leads were very small but i saw it on channel 68 and it seems that madison was the aggresor in this game.though ashland had the free throw advantage it was not enough to overcome the field goal advantage madison have. madison had 20 field goals to ashlands 12 field goals and that was it.plus ashland had only 1 offensive rebound to madison 9 and madison won the total boards 25-17 i think,so theres your aggressive team.ashland maybe had the talent,but madison has the heart to win this game.
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Post by dude on Feb 4, 2020 23:26:52 GMT -5
Ashland is a team that lives and dies behind the arc. Tonight it looks like it was not a good night for them in that area. They have not been a good rebounding team all year. Losing the rebound edge is not a shock. ON most nights you see a low score and think of good defense but in this game it was bad offense. Ashland has been held below 50 only one other time and Madison is averaging under 50 a game. A Ashland bad shooting night plays into Madison's plan.
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Post by dude on Feb 4, 2020 23:48:25 GMT -5
just in at ashland high school,madison 49 ashland 48 a shot from within 10 feet at the buzzer beat ashland. a bad loss at home for ashland.luke denbow only 5 points for ashland.this game was back and forth all the way ashland never had a big lead and madison leads were very small but i saw it on channel 68 and it seems that madison was the aggresor in this game.though ashland had the free throw advantage it was not enough to overcome the field goal advantage madison have. madison had 20 field goals to ashlands 12 field goals and that was it.plus ashland had only 1 offensive rebound to madison 9 and madison won the total boards 25-17 i think,so theres your aggressive team.ashland maybe had the talent,but madison has the heart to win this game. Madison shooting was 20 for 50 and Ashland was 13 for 35. The total misses were 52 so there had to be more than 42 total rebounds since there will be some rebounds from missed foul shots also.
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Post by maplecityjake on Feb 10, 2020 20:47:43 GMT -5
If I understand correctly, Ashland will play Fremont Ross and winner gets winner of Lima-Waite.
Madison will get Northview with winner getting Perrysburg.
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Post by dude on Feb 12, 2020 8:10:39 GMT -5
Ashland played Ontario last night and the final score shocked me. With Luke Denbow in a boot and Mitch Heilman in foul trouble sitting most of the 3rd and some of the 4th. Final Score 57-53.
Mt Vernon loses at home to Delaware Hayes 43-45.
Madison beats Marion Harding on the road in OT 53-51.
Mansfield traveled to Columbus Northland and lost by 50-66.
Wooster gets a win on the road at Medina Highland 46-40.
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Post by malabar10 on Feb 12, 2020 10:56:35 GMT -5
With the tournaments right around the corner, here are the draws for the OCC.
Division 1
Wooster Canton District 2/25 #6 seed at Home vs #11 seed Alliance Ashland Toledo 2 District 2/29 #15 seed at Fostoria HS vs #13 seed Fremont Ross Madison Toledo 1 District 2/26 #17 seed at Start HS vs #11 seed Sylvania Southview Mt. Vernon Columbus 3 District 2/22 #40 seed at Pick Central HS vs #4 Pick Central
Division 2
West Holmes East 2 District 2/29 #15 seed at Tri-Valley HS vs #3 seed Tri-Valley Lexington Madison District 2/28 #6 seed at Bucyrus HS vs #5 seed Ontario Mansfield Sr Madison District 2/26 #7 seed at Bucyrus HS vs #11 seed Vermilion
How many teams make it out of the 1st round?? I will say Wooster, Ashland, and Senior
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Post by dude on Feb 12, 2020 11:55:38 GMT -5
Wooster is 18-1 and gets put as the #6 seed?
M10, It's unlike you to not pick an upset or two.
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Post by malabar10 on Feb 12, 2020 13:11:41 GMT -5
I did!! Ashland over higher seeded Ross. Went way out on a limb. Lex/Ontario is a tossup. Madison, W Holmes, and Mt Vernon should have a safe trip home!!
As for Wooster being a #6 seed, there are several factors:
1. 7 of 13 teams in Canton District are from the Fed, which supports their own like no other. 2. The OCC is probably the worst I've seen, collectively, ever in one year. 3. Loss to Massillon, granted at Massillon 4. Comparable scores of common opponents, Mansfield Sr. # 5 seed NC Hoover beat Senior by 16, while Wooster by 2 and 3.
That's why Wooster is the #6 seed, despite being 18-1.
BTW, #1, 2, 4, and 5 seeds are from Fed, while #3 Boardman used to be (as was Wooster eons ago)
THAT'S WHY WE PLAY THE GAMES!!
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Post by dude on Feb 12, 2020 14:07:17 GMT -5
I did!! Ashland over higher seeded Ross. Went way out on a limb. Lex/Ontario is a tossup. Madison, W Holmes, and Mt Vernon should have a safe trip home!! As for Wooster being a #6 seed, there are several factors: 1. 7 of 13 teams in Canton District are from the Fed, which supports their own like no other. 2. The OCC is probably the worst I've seen, collectively, ever in one year. 3. Loss to Massillon, granted at Massillon 4. Comparable scores of common opponents, Mansfield Sr. # 5 seed NC Hoover beat Senior by 16, while Wooster by 2 and 3. That's why Wooster is the #6 seed, despite being 18-1. BTW, #1, 2, 4, and 5 seeds are from Fed, while #3 Boardman used to be (as was Wooster eons ago) THAT'S WHY WE PLAY THE GAMES!! With Denbow out for the remaining season an Ashland win would be an upset.
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Post by maplecityjake on Feb 12, 2020 15:00:31 GMT -5
Not that it mattered much but I thought Ross being higher seed than Ashland was a joke.
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Post by dude on Feb 13, 2020 8:38:34 GMT -5
Not that it mattered much but I thought Ross being higher seed than Ashland was a joke. More votes coming from their direction and schools they play.
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Post by dude on Feb 16, 2020 12:35:33 GMT -5
Final League standings 2019-2020
Ohio Cardinal Conference Wooster 12-0 Lexington 9-3 Mansfield 7-5 Ashland 5-7 Mt Vernon 5-7 Madison 4-8 West Holmes 0-12
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Post by unc4life on Feb 29, 2020 14:22:36 GMT -5
Nice win for a Ashland today over Fremont 69-65.
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Post by dude on Mar 4, 2020 10:26:24 GMT -5
Nice win for a Ashland today over Fremont 69-65. And the reward is they get to play on the University of Toledo floor.
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Post by malabar10 on Mar 4, 2020 11:00:46 GMT -5
Nice win for a Ashland today over Fremont 69-65. And the reward is they get to play on the University of Toledo floor. Dude, you forgot they get to play the #1 seed in Lima Senior on UT's floor!! Good luck Arroqs!
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Post by dude on Mar 4, 2020 11:31:27 GMT -5
And the reward is they get to play on the University of Toledo floor. Dude, you forgot they get to play the #1 seed in Lima Senior on UT's floor!! Good luck Arroqs! M10, I didn't forget, I just didn't see that as a reward.
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Post by maplecityjake on Mar 4, 2020 14:01:26 GMT -5
Dude, you forgot they get to play the #1 seed in Lima Senior on UT's floor!! Good luck Arroqs! M10, I didn't forget, I just didn't see that as a reward. The reward was to Ross. Little Giants already lost to Lima 100-70 and 122-67 this year. My message to Ashland in my Marco Albanian-English accent to Bryan Mills in "Taken".... Good luck
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Post by maplecityjake on Mar 5, 2020 21:32:52 GMT -5
Lima Sr 78, Ashland 40
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Post by jayhawk on Mar 6, 2020 19:12:33 GMT -5
Not sure what the future talent of the occ basketball world is but this appears to be a lean year to say the least. Seen Lima was up 58-16 at halftime and a running clock started the 3rd quarter.
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Post by dude on Mar 7, 2020 12:54:49 GMT -5
Not sure what the future talent of the occ basketball world is but this appears to be a lean year to say the least. Seen Lima was up 58-16 at halftime and a running clock started the 3rd quarter. Unless there was a recovery, Ashland did not have their best player on the floor. With him they may have avoided the running clock until the 4th.
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Post by unc4life on Mar 9, 2020 11:53:48 GMT -5
Not sure what the future talent of the occ basketball world is but this appears to be a lean year to say the least. Seen Lima was up 58-16 at halftime and a running clock started the 3rd quarter. Unless there was a recovery, Ashland did not have their best player on the floor. With him they may have avoided the running clock until the 4th. Correct, they were also without another Starter as well. Truthfully the fact the even made it to this game is impressive.
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Post by dude on Mar 9, 2020 11:57:33 GMT -5
Unless there was a recovery, Ashland did not have their best player on the floor. With him they may have avoided the running clock until the 4th. Correct, they were also without another Starter as well. Truthfully the fact the even made it to this game is impressive. At some time in his coaching career Hess will discover he is allowed to sub.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on May 14, 2020 10:51:25 GMT -5
I see that AD Fuzzy won her lawsuit and gets her job back at Mansfield Senior and Mansfield must pay her 2 years of back pay immediately. She now is suing the District for $1 Million for defamation of character and undue mental stress. The personnel clown show at Mansfield continues.
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Post by ohioraised on May 14, 2020 11:00:48 GMT -5
Fuzzy was not the Mansfield AD.
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