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Post by goblue on May 15, 2019 15:52:01 GMT -5
It is interesting the cult following that Fox has among some in Willard. If you do some research, you'd find Devier is 3-2 head-to-head verse Fox. I would agree that regardless of the coach the last 5+ years of Willard football were an uphill battle. My understanding is Rat will never coach at Willard, a decision that is totally his own. I've been told he is approached by administration each time the football job opens and he quickly declines. As for a coach leaving in May, you usually don't leave a job until you have another one secured. Devier resigned at Willard May 6 and wasn't BOE approved at Riverdale until May 13. Fair to say he was looking out for Willard as much as he could by resigning before even being officially hired at Riverdale. Now, he may have known about the ONU position early. But, my guess is staying in coaching was part of the decision to leave Willard. when you say 3-2 do you mean as a head coach?
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Post by notsofast on May 15, 2019 16:39:53 GMT -5
It is interesting the cult following that Fox has among some in Willard. If you do some research, you'd find Devier is 3-2 head-to-head verse Fox. I would agree that regardless of the coach the last 5+ years of Willard football were an uphill battle. My understanding is Rat will never coach at Willard, a decision that is totally his own. I've been told he is approached by administration each time the football job opens and he quickly declines. As for a coach leaving in May, you usually don't leave a job until you have another one secured. Devier resigned at Willard May 6 and wasn't BOE approved at Riverdale until May 13. Fair to say he was looking out for Willard as much as he could by resigning before even being officially hired at Riverdale. Now, he may have known about the ONU position early. But, my guess is staying in coaching was part of the decision to leave Willard. when you say 3-2 do you mean as a head coach? Correct. As far as I am aware they met as head coaches 5 times. 4 times Woodmore vs Calvert and 1 Willard vs Calvert. I would have to go back into joeeitel to see what years for 100%.
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Post by ScarletFever on May 15, 2019 22:14:01 GMT -5
No prob w Devier and hats off to him for his recent degree. I thought the misleading rap against him some brought up before he was hired was nonsense, and I don’t know anyone in town that’s said a bad word about BD. Happy trails to him heading back home he’s earned that right.
Yes I’ve backed Fox from the word go but it was long before BD came to town. The reasons they didn’t hire him leads me to run my yap. I digress.
Best hopes to BD and also to Willard moving forward. Got a positive text lately we seem to be getting started on the right foot.
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Post by buckeyekid on May 21, 2019 19:12:16 GMT -5
Getting the field at the price they did was a major coup. It's beautiful and it's paying dividends in ways we never expected. Coaches around the State are noticing.
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Post by truecrimson on May 23, 2019 7:30:06 GMT -5
Getting the field at the price they did was a major coup. It's beautiful and it's paying dividends in ways we never expected. Coaches around the State are noticing. You make me go cross-eyed at times with your post. Are you saying that Charlie Frye will be our next head coach? Obviously, someone continues to leak you information and you throw comments out like you have the answers. Please, share who is so noticing?
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Post by clb6110 on May 23, 2019 11:26:47 GMT -5
Where in the world did you get Charlie Frye out of that? Did you ever consider buckeye is in the know because he is part of the process?
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Post by truecrimson on May 23, 2019 12:39:52 GMT -5
Where in the world did you get Charlie Frye out of that? Did you ever consider buckeye is in the know because he is part of the process? You and Buckeye need to stop smokin' whatever you are growing on the "farm". No need to come to his rescue farm man.
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Post by clb6110 on May 23, 2019 17:04:09 GMT -5
Funny I actually would enjoy some nice homegrown. I'll vote for it when it's on the ballot for sure. Just looking for an answer. Where did you come up with Charlie Frye? You'll like this tidbit too. Coaching search will be complete before commencement.
P.S. Maybe Charlie is in the final group. My farm buddy wouldn't name names.
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Post by buckeyekid on May 23, 2019 20:32:35 GMT -5
Charlie Frye is at Central Michigan Univ as their QB coach I think. He did not apply, I did hear he is working out with Cooper to help hone his QB skills. Hope that helps squash the rumor. It'll be done by next Thursday and announced the next day I think.
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Post by truecrimson on May 23, 2019 20:54:14 GMT -5
Charlie Frye is at Central Michigan Univ as their QB coach I think. He did not apply, I did hear he is working out with Cooper to help hone his QB skills. Hope that helps squash the rumor. It'll be done by next Thursday and announced the next day I think. I’m sure eicher will handle the coaching this year and they’ll put some real time into searching next season. That field should draw some good candidates. Not sure who the parrot kid will have to throw to this year with the polacheck and holida kids graduating, will be slim pickings. decent rbs but small.
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Post by ScarletFever on May 23, 2019 23:45:44 GMT -5
Charlie Frye is at Central Michigan Univ as their QB coach I think. He did not apply, I did hear he is working out with Cooper to help hone his QB skills. Hope that helps squash the rumor. It'll be done by next Thursday and announced the next day I think. I’m sure eicher will handle the coaching this year and they’ll put some real time into searching next season. That field should draw some good candidates. Not sure who the parrot kid will have to throw to this year with the polacheck and holida kids graduating, will be slim pickings. decent rbs but small. Flashes will pick a candidate not from here IMO, and that person will be here 3 years min.
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Post by truecrimson on May 24, 2019 8:18:43 GMT -5
I’m sure eicher will handle the coaching this year and they’ll put some real time into searching next season. That field should draw some good candidates. Not sure who the parrot kid will have to throw to this year with the polacheck and holida kids graduating, will be slim pickings. decent rbs but small. Flashes will pick a candidate not from here IMO, and that person will be here 3 years min. If that is the case, I hope they come from a well ran program and can put some structure around the one we have because it is not well structured right now.
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Post by ScarletFever on May 24, 2019 8:29:45 GMT -5
Flashes will pick a candidate not from here IMO, and that person will be here 3 years min. If that is the case, I hope they come from a well ran program and can put some structure around the one we have because it is not well structured right now. I think we both would like to see a program in synch from 4th grade to 12th grade. That’s what Haas used to have with hoops. Easier said than done but would be cool
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Post by truecrimson on May 24, 2019 11:04:34 GMT -5
If that is the case, I hope they come from a well ran program and can put some structure around the one we have because it is not well structured right now. I think we both would like to see a program in synch from 4th grade to 12th grade. That’s what Haas used to have with hoops. Easier said than done but would be cool That would be cool. Not sure it will happen because you need devoted coaches from the bottom up and this day and time, they are hard to come by. I hope the coach that comes in looks at the staff in place and reassesses them and makes them reapply. One in MS that I would not bring back, has ran too many kids off and that is not acceptable. The problem these days, everyone wants instant wins, not everyone can step into a program and have the success Fox had. This program needs a sound leader that wants to build that kind of program from the bottom up. This admin would not know a good coach if it slapped them in the face, i.e. Fox.
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Post by ScarletFever on May 24, 2019 11:18:09 GMT -5
I think we both would like to see a program in synch from 4th grade to 12th grade. That’s what Haas used to have with hoops. Easier said than done but would be cool That would be cool. Not sure it will happen because you need devoted coaches from the bottom up and this day and time, they are hard to come by. I hope the coach that comes in looks at the staff in place and reassesses them and makes them reapply. One in MS that I would not bring back, has ran too many kids off and that is not acceptable. The problem these days, everyone wants instant wins, not everyone can step into a program and have the success Fox had. This program needs a sound leader that wants to build that kind of program from the bottom up. This admin would not know a good coach if it slapped them in the face, i.e. Fox. Some good people I know gave me some good arguments why Fox was not brought back. I, respectfully with my own mind and brain decided those reasons were nonsense and excuses to save a little face. I do think they have a better team in position now than they did a few years ago to choose a coach so I do have a good feeling. We do have a nice facility to play ball, we are moving down in divisions and who knows what willards population will do in the next few years depending on some factory decisions. I’ll repeat though my fandom of fox is not meant as a slight to BD. I think he did a very solid job with what he had to work with, it would be nice to see him stay longer but you can’t argue the reasons why he left.
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Post by truecrimson on May 24, 2019 12:11:53 GMT -5
That would be cool. Not sure it will happen because you need devoted coaches from the bottom up and this day and time, they are hard to come by. I hope the coach that comes in looks at the staff in place and reassesses them and makes them reapply. One in MS that I would not bring back, has ran too many kids off and that is not acceptable. The problem these days, everyone wants instant wins, not everyone can step into a program and have the success Fox had. This program needs a sound leader that wants to build that kind of program from the bottom up. This admin would not know a good coach if it slapped them in the face, i.e. Fox. Some good people I know gave me some good arguments why Fox was not brought back. I, respectfully with my own mind and brain decided those reasons were nonsense and excuses to save a little face. I do think they have a better team in position now than they did a few years ago to choose a coach so I do have a good feeling. We do have a nice facility to play ball, we are moving down in divisions and who knows what willards population will do in the next few years depending on some factory decisions. I’ll repeat though my fandom of fox is not meant as a slight to BD. I think he did a very solid job with what he had to work with, it would be nice to see him stay longer but you can’t argue the reasons why he left. You are one of those people, you use your brain to make rational decisions and can think for yourself (dying breed we are :-) The admin continues to do what a few members of the board want them to and that is fine, they get what they get. I don't see them making a sound decision here as they'll take the easy way out this late in the game. Fox gets results no matter how you chalk it up but there is some history here with him and the board and I'm sure that is why he was not considered. Their latest pick for girls basketball coach, my head nearly popped off when I saw that so I know they always take the easy way out.
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Post by ScarletFever on May 24, 2019 12:59:11 GMT -5
Some good people I know gave me some good arguments why Fox was not brought back. I, respectfully with my own mind and brain decided those reasons were nonsense and excuses to save a little face. I do think they have a better team in position now than they did a few years ago to choose a coach so I do have a good feeling. We do have a nice facility to play ball, we are moving down in divisions and who knows what willards population will do in the next few years depending on some factory decisions. I’ll repeat though my fandom of fox is not meant as a slight to BD. I think he did a very solid job with what he had to work with, it would be nice to see him stay longer but you can’t argue the reasons why he left. You are one of those people, you use your brain to make rational decisions and can think for yourself (dying breed we are :-) The admin continues to do what a few members of the board want them to and that is fine, they get what they get. I don't see them making a sound decision here as they'll take the easy way out this late in the game. Fox gets results no matter how you chalk it up but there is some history here with him and the board and I'm sure that is why he was not considered. Their latest pick for girls basketball coach, my head nearly popped off when I saw that so I know they always take the easy way out. I must say I’m a B Pfhal fan. He wouldn’t have applied if he didn’t have the love of the game still in him. I’ll let you go and have your discussion w mother trucker now
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Post by clb6110 on May 24, 2019 16:32:38 GMT -5
This is going to get crazy! I'm also a B Pfahl fan. He certainly knows the game and I think girls have always enjoyed playing for him. I hope he did it for the love of the game rather than just a favor to Joe Crawford.
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Post by truecrimson on May 24, 2019 17:46:03 GMT -5
True Crimson sounds like a total hillbilly loser basher from Flashville. not to worry we have a few over here too. Has all the answers to the questions and nothing to back it up = stfu bum bum hole I love you MT ❤️.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on May 24, 2019 19:57:59 GMT -5
That would be cool. Not sure it will happen because you need devoted coaches from the bottom up and this day and time, they are hard to come by. I hope the coach that comes in looks at the staff in place and reassesses them and makes them reapply. One in MS that I would not bring back, has ran too many kids off and that is not acceptable. The problem these days, everyone wants instant wins, not everyone can step into a program and have the success Fox had. This program needs a sound leader that wants to build that kind of program from the bottom up. This admin would not know a good coach if it slapped them in the face, i.e. Fox. Some good people I know gave me some good arguments why Fox was not brought back. I, respectfully with my own mind and brain decided those reasons were nonsense and excuses to save a little face. I do think they have a better team in position now than they did a few years ago to choose a coach so I do have a good feeling. We do have a nice facility to play ball, we are moving down in divisions and who knows what willards population will do in the next few years depending on some factory decisions. I’ll repeat though my fandom of fox is not meant as a slight to BD. I think he did a very solid job with what he had to work with, it would be nice to see him stay longer but you can’t argue the reasons why he left. Another Charlie Frey and All-Ohio DB will do more for Willard than the choice of a coach or a nice facility.
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Post by ScarletFever on May 24, 2019 23:18:22 GMT -5
Some good people I know gave me some good arguments why Fox was not brought back. I, respectfully with my own mind and brain decided those reasons were nonsense and excuses to save a little face. I do think they have a better team in position now than they did a few years ago to choose a coach so I do have a good feeling. We do have a nice facility to play ball, we are moving down in divisions and who knows what willards population will do in the next few years depending on some factory decisions. I’ll repeat though my fandom of fox is not meant as a slight to BD. I think he did a very solid job with what he had to work with, it would be nice to see him stay longer but you can’t argue the reasons why he left. Another Charlie Frey and All-Ohio DB will do more for Willard than the choice of a coach or a nice facility. High school talent is 70-80% of the game. No argument there.
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Post by clb6110 on May 31, 2019 7:27:46 GMT -5
New coach being announced this AM. I like what I hear.
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Post by bat21 on May 31, 2019 7:51:35 GMT -5
Good to hear. As of this point in the off season stuff ... there has been only 1 coaching staff in the weight room ... ONE! Certainly not football ... and I understand that. I would've thought maybe an assistant would have stepped up for a time ... but I understand if they didn't. Hopefully this new guy will get in the weight room and show some enthusiasm to get kids motivated.
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Post by buckeyekid on May 31, 2019 9:15:46 GMT -5
New Coach Kade Long 23 Tiffin University Grad. Comes from a family with a long coaching legacy. Tiffin Columbian Defensive Co. One year ---took over an 0-10 team,,and in one year went 8-2 as the Co- DC. Clyde grad and had a nice playing career. Young but ready to lead and improve upon what Coach Devier started.
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Post by footballfan on Jun 1, 2019 9:03:59 GMT -5
Willard new teacher and head football coach Kade Long? Might get the flashes program back on track. He has been around a lot of good programs and knows what it takes. JMA
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Post by buckeyekid on Jun 1, 2019 11:40:55 GMT -5
That's the plan. We liked his enthusiasm and knowledge of the game and bloodlines. He was a very good fit in retrospect. Sometimes you take a shot with the young candidate,,and he wouldn't be the first good, young head coach this area has seen.
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Post by goblue on Jun 1, 2019 21:25:27 GMT -5
Buckeye kid. In an earlier post you said would like to be part of the hiring process. And in your last post you said we liked his enthusiasm and knowledge. So does that mean you were on hiring committee? And you state he was defensive coordinator at Tiffin last year. But I'm sure Mr. Conley is and has been the defensive coordinator at Tiffin for a while. So Long was an Assistant under him. I do agree he has a great bloodline and was a great player. And everyone has to start somewhere. Also the 2017 starting quarterback for tiffin university was Antonio Pipkin who was drafted by New Orleans and now plays for the Motreal Alouettes. So I think who ever is coming was probably a back up.So I think your stats on them are a little off to make them look better. I wish him and the other kid all the best and pray they can in time be the answer Willard needs. And I also pray they are accepted by the parents and the boys. Gotta get those numbers up. This build is going to be a long one. Hopefully he is givin the opportunity to stay long enough to build it.
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Post by buckeyekid on Jun 2, 2019 5:47:38 GMT -5
He was Co-Defensive Coordinator at Columbian. As far as the kid from Tiffin U,,I guess I misunderstood what he said regarding the QB Coach coming with him. His name is Jalen Slick and he played QB at Fremont Ross and he went to Tiffin Univ. I got that part wrong, my bad.
I'm optimistic with the choice. I'm hoping we look back in a few years and see a real good Coach at WHS leading the team in Kade Long.
It was an interesting process and I appreciated being a part of it. Kade comes from a football family and a winning tradition in Clyde. I think he'll be given time to mold the program and I too hope the numbers going out for football increase and with it the winning %. He also did a nice job in the classroom from his personal standpoint and hopefully that translates to success in the classroom with his students as well.
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Post by kingmartinez on Jun 2, 2019 7:33:49 GMT -5
Willard Football reminds me of the 1999-2017 Cleveland Browns. We shall see. I just can't get behind a 23 year old varsity head coach for a variety of reasons but I don't know him personally so I speak in generalities.
I do think the comments about his hire "best young coaches in the area and state" along with the "bloodlines" talk puts a lot of expectations on this young man. I believe it will be difficult to live up to anywhere, let alone with Willard in the Bay Division.
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Post by footballfan on Jun 2, 2019 8:29:35 GMT -5
Yea I'm not sure why they would move Willard up to bay division. Mostly DIV schools. Did they move a bay division school up to the Lake Division?
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