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Post by maplecityjake on Jun 11, 2019 8:44:47 GMT -5
Region 12 had a couple 6-4s and 5-5 make postseason in '18. look at harbins. I think if I remember, region 10 had some of the lowest harbin points to get in. example being if they did go to the top 32 teams each division based on harbin points, I think only 5 would have made it in from region 10. I will confess, I didn't pay too much attention to the Harbins, but after further review, I don't think it was that drastic other than higher seeds from other Regions had a bit more. Aside from Harbins, there were quite a few 6-4/5-5 schools making postseason. Probably more the reason I wouldn't want playoff expansion.
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Post by maplecityjake on Jun 11, 2019 8:53:13 GMT -5
Drop the hyperbole No team with an awful offensive line runs for 3000+ yards in a season. Sandusky’s bread and butter was outside run because it suited their talent best. Their line did an excellent job blocking it over the course of the year. They also had a productive inside game which can be witnessed by heading over to hudl and looking up Terion’s and Shonsai Aaron’s highlight films. Lots of TD’s for Sandusky including the game winner against Ross came on inside runs. drop the hyperbole huh. dude I am telling you now, once league play ramped up and the toledo city league teams were done, there was a large slow down. Line play was average at best. I watched them against norwalk twice and tiffin. If the ball couldn't get bounced outside, there wasn't much going on. He is a great player, no doubt, but he would be even more lethal with consistent line play and a more threatening passing game. Sandusky will be a tough out this year, I just don't think they win the region or the Lake I was going to say Sandusky just wasn't as physical as those Lake schools. Part of the reason I don't think Ross would do that great if in Lake; even with their talent the last 2 years, they got pushed around to the tune settling for .500.
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Post by curmudgeon on Jun 11, 2019 19:58:40 GMT -5
line play is awful. if stewart can't get the edge, then they can't run it. Drop the hyperbole No team with an awful offensive line runs for 3000+ yards in a season. Sandusky’s bread and butter was outside run because it suited their talent best. Their line did an excellent job blocking it over the course of the year. They also had a productive inside game which can be witnessed by heading over to hudl and looking up Terion’s and Shonsai Aaron’s highlight films. Lots of TD’s for Sandusky including the game winner against Ross came on inside runs
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Post by curmudgeon on Jun 11, 2019 20:25:19 GMT -5
Drop the hyperbole No team with an awful offensive line runs for 3000+ yards in a season. Sandusky’s bread and butter was outside run because it suited their talent best. Their line did an excellent job blocking it over the course of the year. They also had a productive inside game which can be witnessed by heading over to hudl and looking up Terion’s and Shonsai Aaron’s highlight films. Lots of TD’s for Sandusky including the game winner against Ross came on inside runs I am impressed with Terion on several levels but have to agree with the others. He reminds me of Barry Sanders...all the talent in the world and the heart to back it up, surrounded by an ok team at best. Even his size reminds me of Sanders. Barry put up amazing stats and won many otherwise unwinable games, but without a solid line and lots of support, the team will fall short; ask Detroit fans. Norwalk in contrast brings the solid support with a talented veteran quarterback, most of last years defense, a solid kicker and a promising replacement for Trevon Raymore. My money is still on Norwalk.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jun 11, 2019 23:20:58 GMT -5
There hasn't been a back in the NFL that compared to Sanders, let alone in high school.
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Post by curmudgeon on Jun 12, 2019 1:40:33 GMT -5
...Forest for the trees" Fillmore.
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Post by maplecityjake on Jun 12, 2019 13:02:02 GMT -5
Sandusky's Week 1 opponent, Padua, moved to Division II, Region 6. Padua just missed a spot in Region 10 last year. Ashland and Copley(Akron burb) move to Region 10.
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Post by maplecityjake on Jun 12, 2019 13:19:15 GMT -5
I failed to mention River Valley from the MOAC will be a Region 10 newbie as well.
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Post by marchmadness on Jun 12, 2019 14:00:47 GMT -5
SEVERAL playoff (and playoff caliber) teams from D3 Region 9 are moving over to D3 Region 10...should make things interesting! Revere, Norton, Medina Buckeye, West Holmes...Add in Ashland and River Valley...Glenville should be back off OHSAA probation right? This region just got tougher (hard to get any easier). Better win your regular season games!
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Post by marchmadness on Jun 12, 2019 14:06:46 GMT -5
Leaving the region is Clyde, Perkins, University School, Cleveland CC, Cle JFK, Toledo Scott...Only Clyde had a pulse out of those teams.
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Post by richrod on Jun 12, 2019 15:33:14 GMT -5
SEVERAL playoff (and playoff caliber) teams from D3 Region 9 are moving over to D3 Region 10...should make things interesting! Revere, Norton, Medina Buckeye, West Holmes...Add in Ashland and River Valley...Glenville should be back off OHSAA probation right? This region just got tougher (hard to get any easier). Better win your regular season games! West Holmes lost a tremendous senior class, they will struggle next year. Copley didn't have a JV team last year to my knowledge, their numbers are really really low, which is sad, they used to be a solid program. river valley is not good, MOAC IMO is a much weaker league than the SBC, heck I'd take the SBC over the OCC as well! Buckeye was good and should be solid with the old wadsworth coach there, dennison I think. Norton I don't know much about and Revere is so so I will say Region 10 should be better though. I still like Norwalk to take the SBC Lake and win the region
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Post by maplecityjake on Jun 13, 2019 12:32:11 GMT -5
SEVERAL playoff (and playoff caliber) teams from D3 Region 9 are moving over to D3 Region 10...should make things interesting! Revere, Norton, Medina Buckeye, West Holmes...Add in Ashland and River Valley...Glenville should be back off OHSAA probation right? This region just got tougher (hard to get any easier). Better win your regular season games! Yes, Glenville is off probation assuming they don't get caught cheating, again. Next offense puts them at Double-Secret Probation.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jun 13, 2019 20:46:14 GMT -5
...Forest for the trees" Fillmore. ...don''t have to be a lumberjack to see, mudgeon.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2019 21:34:37 GMT -5
Stewart is the best high school running back I have seen. However, Sandusky offensive line will be better this year and remember a kid by the last name of Lewis at wide receiver this year. 4.5 speed, 6”3 and athletic. Sandusky knows they will need to pass to keep teams honest, especially with Stewart. I worry about defense and the kicking game. There is no doubt Sandusky will put up points but the defense lost a lot of defensive backs and linebackers. I say it comes down to Norwalk and Sandusky again but Clyde will have something to say about that. Should be a exciting and competitive year.
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Post by Willard Dad on Jun 15, 2019 10:14:29 GMT -5
Lake D3 340 Sandusky D3 337 Tiffin Columbian D3 320 Norwalk D4 264 Perkins D4 257 Clyde D4 255 Bellevue
Bay D4 251 Vermilion D4 242 Port Clinton D4 211 Edison D4 210 Huron D5 204 Oak Harbor D5 178 Willard
River D5 167 Lakota D6 134 Margaretta D6 125 Gibsonburg D6 118 Hopewell-Loudon D7 71 Sandusky SMCC D7 64 Danbury D7 48 Tiffin Calvert D7 45 Fremont St Joe
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Post by maplecityjake on Jun 15, 2019 10:30:23 GMT -5
Holy Smokes, I didn't realize how small Calvert and SJCC are getting.
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Post by Willard Dad on Jun 15, 2019 10:45:53 GMT -5
Any plans of adding more teams and a 4th division to even out the divisions from an enrollment point of view? 45 Fremont SJCC & 48 Tiffin Calvert in with 167 Lakota? Seems like a huge disparity with Lakota being over 3x bigger. Lake D2 455 Fremont Ross D3 370 Mansfield Madison D2 369 AshlandD3 340 Sandusky D3 337 Tiffin Columbian D3 320 Norwalk D3 318 Mansfield Senior D3 296 LexingtonBay D4 264 Perkins D4 257 Clyde D4 255 Bellevue
D4 251 Vermilion D4 242 Port Clinton D4 211 Edison D4 210 Huron D5 204 Oak Harbor
River D5 178 Willard D5 169 Wynford
D5 167 Lakota D6 149 Bucyrus D6 146 Colonel Crawford D6 137 Seneca East
D6 134 Margaretta D6 125 Gibsonburg
Creek D6 124 Carey
D6 118 Hopewell-Loudon D7 108 Mohawk D7 76 Buckeye Central
D7 71 Sandusky SMCC D7 64 Danbury D7 48 Tiffin Calvert D7 45 Fremont St Joe
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Post by maplecityjake on Jun 15, 2019 11:15:34 GMT -5
The way Calvert and SJCC are decreasing, forget about the Creek; put them in the Mud Puddle.
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Post by dude on Jun 15, 2019 12:41:32 GMT -5
Looks good on paper Willard Dad but if they cannot keep 20 schools happy what makes you think 32 would be better?
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Post by sportsvideo on Jun 15, 2019 13:15:00 GMT -5
Looks good on paper Willard Dad but if they cannot keep 20 schools happy what makes you think 32 would be better? the ones that are not happy are in the Lake, where they're mad because they can't get the bay to play them... shrugs
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Post by dude on Jun 15, 2019 14:08:06 GMT -5
Most of what I have heard is from Lake and Bay schools about the set up for the River schools. Crossover games has never been a complaint I have heard.
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Post by redskinfan04 on Jun 15, 2019 14:20:34 GMT -5
Any plans of adding more teams and a 4th division to even out the divisions from an enrollment point of view? 45 Fremont SJCC & 48 Tiffin Calvert in with 167 Lakota? Seems like a huge disparity with Lakota being over 3x bigger. Lake D2 455 Fremont Ross D3 370 Mansfield Madison D2 369 AshlandD3 340 Sandusky D3 337 Tiffin Columbian D3 320 Norwalk D3 318 Mansfield Senior D3 296 LexingtonBay D4 264 Perkins D4 257 Clyde D4 255 Bellevue
D4 251 Vermilion D4 242 Port Clinton D4 211 Edison D4 210 Huron D5 204 Oak Harbor
River D5 178 Willard D5 169 Wynford
D5 167 Lakota D6 149 Bucyrus D6 146 Colonel Crawford D6 137 Seneca East
D6 134 Margaretta D6 125 Gibsonburg
Creek D6 124 Carey
D6 118 Hopewell-Loudon D7 108 Mohawk D7 76 Buckeye Central
D7 71 Sandusky SMCC D7 64 Danbury D7 48 Tiffin Calvert D7 45 Fremont St Joe I expect to see SMCC, Danbury, SJCC and Calvert playing 8 man ball in the next 5-10 years. Danbury is already playing 8 man at the junior high level.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jun 15, 2019 16:36:30 GMT -5
Stewart is the best high school running back I have seen. However, Sandusky offensive line will be better this year and remember a kid by the last name of Lewis at wide receiver this year. 4.5 speed, 6”3 and athletic. Sandusky knows they will need to pass to keep teams honest, especially with Stewart. I worry about defense and the kicking game. There is no doubt Sandusky will put up points but the defense lost a lot of defensive backs and linebackers. I say it comes down to Norwalk and Sandusky again but Clyde will have something to say about that. Should be a exciting and competitive year. The best high school running back ever seen, equates to multiple offers from every Power 5 Conference.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2019 16:46:58 GMT -5
Stewart is the best high school running back I have seen. However, Sandusky offensive line will be better this year and remember a kid by the last name of Lewis at wide receiver this year. 4.5 speed, 6”3 and athletic. Sandusky knows they will need to pass to keep teams honest, especially with Stewart. I worry about defense and the kicking game. There is no doubt Sandusky will put up points but the defense lost a lot of defensive backs and linebackers. I say it comes down to Norwalk and Sandusky again but Clyde will have something to say about that. Should be a exciting and competitive year. The best high school running back ever seen, equates to multiple offers from every Power 5 Conference. Academics play a major role in that as well.
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Post by maplecityjake on Jun 15, 2019 17:13:35 GMT -5
Sandusky's had a history of solid backs at a time Streaks played a bit tougher schedule and did well.
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Post by dude on Jun 15, 2019 22:14:56 GMT -5
Stewart is the best high school running back I have seen. I have been fortunate enough to have seen Clarett, Saine and Howard in high school as well as Stewart. I have little doubt he can carry the Sandusky team this season but he would not be in the top 3 of the best high school running backs I have seen.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jun 15, 2019 23:18:28 GMT -5
Of the top of my head, add these that are better - Robert Smith, Beanie Wells, Keith Byers, Carlos Snow, Pepe Pearson. Ricky Powers, Ki-Jana Carter, Curtis Enis, Kareem Hunt. Archie, and Hop-a-long.
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Post by 2112 on Jun 16, 2019 1:09:48 GMT -5
Any plans of adding more teams and a 4th division to even out the divisions from an enrollment point of view? 45 Fremont SJCC & 48 Tiffin Calvert in with 167 Lakota? Seems like a huge disparity with Lakota being over 3x bigger. Lake D2 455 Fremont Ross D3 370 Mansfield Madison D2 369 AshlandD3 340 Sandusky D3 337 Tiffin Columbian D3 320 Norwalk D3 318 Mansfield Senior D3 296 LexingtonBay D4 264 Perkins D4 257 Clyde D4 255 Bellevue D4 251 Vermilion D4 242 Port Clinton D4 211 Edison D4 210 Huron D5 204 Oak Harbor River D5 178 Willard D5 169 WynfordD5 167 Lakota D6 149 Bucyrus D6 146 Colonel Crawford D6 137 Seneca EastD6 134 Margaretta D6 125 Gibsonburg Creek D6 124 CareyD6 118 Hopewell-Loudon D7 108 Mohawk D7 76 Buckeye CentralD7 71 Sandusky SMCC D7 64 Danbury D7 48 Tiffin Calvert D7 45 Fremont St Joe I like pulling in the Firelands Conference into this too: Lake D2 455 Fremont Ross D3 370 Mansfield Madison D2 369 AshlandD3 340 Sandusky D3 337 Tiffin Columbian D3 320 Norwalk D3 318 Mansfield Senior D3 296 LexingtonBay D4 264 Perkins D4 257 Clyde D4 255 Bellevue D4 251 Vermilion D4 242 Port Clinton D4 211 Edison D4 210 Huron D5 204 Oak Harbor River D5 178 Willard D5 169 WynfordD5 167 Lakota D6 149 BucyrusD6 147 CrestviewD6 146 Col CrawfordD6 139 Western ReverseD6 137 Seneca EastCreek D6 134 Margaretta D6 125 Gibsonburg D6 125 New LondonD6 124 CareyD6 121 MapletonD6 118 Hopewell-Loudon D7 108 MohawkD7 98 MonroevilleMud Puddle D7 92 St Paul D7 90 South Central D7 89 PlymouthD7 76 Buckeye CentralD7 71 St Mary CC D7 64 Danbury D7 48 Tiffin Calvert D7 45 St Joe CC Might have a problem with the placement of St Paul, but other than that this provides for pretty tight competitive balance across the divisions.
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Post by Green Falcon on Jun 16, 2019 6:17:19 GMT -5
No love for the MOAC?
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Post by maplecityjake on Jun 16, 2019 7:19:53 GMT -5
Willard Dad, I believe you meant to put Ashland as Division 3. It's 2 on your list.
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