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Post by heavydrop7 on Jul 30, 2019 16:01:02 GMT -5
Judging from the roster on maxpreps the kids will be fairly evenly matched size wise. They have about 50 kids on their roster and are a Class A in Pennsylvania. How does playing an out of state school get factored into the computer points? Does it hurt a school? I have no clue, But I’m sure someone on here knows how that’ll work out .
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Post by kingmartinez on Jul 30, 2019 16:26:12 GMT -5
I hate to leave you all hanging, but I was told last night that a school was announcing at Noon that it was moving down to 8-man football. I then asked a coach of a school that has said school on his schedule and he said that the coach of said school said today in a pre-season meeting that they were committed to 11-man football with just 22 players. The original message last night came from a SBC school that was contacted by a school that was playing said school and was told they were moving to 8-man football today. Sounds like Danbury....I'll set the o/u on additional (not including SMCC) SBC River schools to drop to 8-man this year at 1.5 (-110).
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Post by Hummingbird on Jul 30, 2019 16:59:19 GMT -5
Meanwhile, St. Paul has picked up Northgate High School out of Pittsburgh in Week No. 1. The game will be at Whitney Field. The Pittsburgh school hopefully isn't influenced by the dump that is also known as Whitney field.
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Post by sportsvideo on Jul 30, 2019 17:17:13 GMT -5
Judging from the roster on maxpreps the kids will be fairly evenly matched size wise. They have about 50 kids on their roster and are a Class A in Pennsylvania. How does playing an out of state school get factored into the computer points? Does it hurt a school? same as it does in ohio...lets say for example Sandusky played a team from Detroit.. and that detroit teams enrollment was equal to d-3 in ohio...sandusky would get d=3 level points.. it would also be up to the school involved to turn in the out of states teams scores, and the opponents they beat scores.. obviously if you lose to that team..you don't have to worry...
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Jul 30, 2019 17:39:38 GMT -5
In addition, it will be assumed by Ohio (for simplicity's sake) that every single opponent the out of state opponent plays will be the identical division as the out of state opponent.
So if Northgate is D7 (in Ohio terms), their opponents will automatically be assumed to all be D7. If they were D6, all the opponents would automatically be assumed to be D6, etc. etc. etc.
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Post by kingmartinez on Jul 30, 2019 17:51:49 GMT -5
In addition, it will be assumed by Ohio (for simplicity's sake) that every single opponent the out of state opponent plays will be the identical division as the out of state opponent. So if Northgate is D7 (in Ohio terms), their opponents will automatically be assumed to all be D7. If they were D6, all the opponents would automatically be assumed to be D6, etc. etc. etc. Northgate appears to be a DVI school from the enrollment info I found and estimated.
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Post by Highlander29 on Jul 30, 2019 18:01:55 GMT -5
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Post by maplecityjake on Jul 30, 2019 18:37:56 GMT -5
Did I read this correctly? The school Northgate forfeited to was also in talks with Nerk Catholic? At any rate, not much Harbins on the line, but it wasn't with SMCC as well.
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Post by richrod on Jul 31, 2019 12:23:35 GMT -5
why didn't they play cuyahoga heights
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Post by maplecityjake on Jul 31, 2019 12:40:28 GMT -5
why didn't they play cuyahoga heights Are you under the impression Flyers didn't try?
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Post by richrod on Jul 31, 2019 12:42:55 GMT -5
why didn't they play cuyahoga heights Are you under the impression Flyers didn't try? no curious as to why that game didn't happen, figured they would both benefit, good opener and especially for st. paul who has a weaker bottom half of the league and therefore may not have as many points available.
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Post by maplecityjake on Jul 31, 2019 12:56:25 GMT -5
Are you under the impression Flyers didn't try? no curious as to why that game didn't happen, figured they would both benefit, good opener and especially for st. paul who has a weaker bottom half of the league and therefore may not have as many points available. I'm with you; would have loved Nerk Catholic and/or Cuyahoga Heights, but for whatever reason, it didn't work out for St. Paul. I'm happy there's a game. It's a game I won't feel guilty about screaming "Go Flyers!" And "Steelers Suck!" At the same time.
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Post by sportsvideo on Jul 31, 2019 13:22:40 GMT -5
why didn't they play cuyahoga heights what week does falls have open? not the first week
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Post by jmorgret07 on Jul 31, 2019 15:38:52 GMT -5
why didn't they play cuyahoga heights what week does falls have open? not the first week Cuyahoga Heights is open for Week 1...
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Post by maplecityjake on Jul 31, 2019 15:46:47 GMT -5
why didn't they play cuyahoga heights what week does falls have open? not the first week difference between Cuyahoga Heights and Cuyahoga Falls.
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Post by sportsvideo on Jul 31, 2019 15:48:25 GMT -5
what week does falls have open? not the first week Cuyahoga Heights is open for Week 1... ohhh i need to look at the right cuyahoga..LOL
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Post by kingmartinez on Aug 1, 2019 18:23:39 GMT -5
Sandusky didn't waste any time trying to scoop up a player or two from SMCC. Rather pathetic ploy IMO. Attachments:
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Post by maplecityjake on Aug 1, 2019 18:35:38 GMT -5
Sandusky didn't waste any time trying to scoop up a player or two from SMCC. Rather pathetic ploy IMO. To be honest, that doesn't really bother me. If I was to guess, this may "benefit" Huron/Perkins more than Sandusky.
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Post by Birdman on Aug 1, 2019 19:31:17 GMT -5
Sandusky is only trying to take advantage of a terrible loss SMCC had. I hope the kids that want to play do. I couldn’t imagine not getting to play football in high school.
When I was injured and suspended for a game my freshman year, those were the hardest games to watch.
I guess you have to wonder would there be a lot of SMCC even starting for the streaks???
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Post by kingmartinez on Aug 1, 2019 19:32:00 GMT -5
Sandusky didn't waste any time trying to scoop up a player or two from SMCC. Rather pathetic ploy IMO. To be honest, that doesn't really bother me. If I was to guess, this may "benefit" Huron/Perkins more than Sandusky. It's weak. How many kids are they really going to attract and how many are actually going to contribute? Minimal, if any. As for your point, that's assuming those students live in Perkins or Huron's school district. Otherwise they couldn't play for those schools (in this situation).
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Post by Birdman on Aug 1, 2019 20:07:05 GMT -5
It’s weak, but it gives kids an option they may not have known they had.
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Post by kingmartinez on Aug 1, 2019 20:22:37 GMT -5
It’s weak, but it gives kids an option they may not have known they had. The post itself is what I dislike. Just my opinion, I know. The kids and families know their options. Trust me. From what I’ve gathered these SMCC kids and families are all-in on this venture.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2019 20:38:23 GMT -5
Sandusky didn't waste any time trying to scoop up a player or two from SMCC. Rather pathetic ploy IMO. Oh yeah, you mean the billboards throughout Sandusky or the postcards that went to every house in Sandusky to recruit them. Give me a break, the fault is on st. Mary’s here. In all reality, lots of st. Mary’s kids kids live in Perkins and Huron so it could benefit them. St Mary’s is trying to take advantage of the voucher program to bring kids to Sf. Mary’s, I don’t blame them, but I have heard it has brought about a different culture that high supportive (donors and people who are financially supportive) have not liked. They say football will be back next year but how can you trust that some of the players don’t back out like this year. It will be interesting next year but whatever parents choose is their right.
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Post by maplecityjake on Aug 1, 2019 21:03:29 GMT -5
King, my point more than anything, and hinted on by you, and couple others, it's really not going to impact Sandusky football, and having resided in Sandusky/Perkins 20 years ago, the "stud" SMCC athletes live in Huron/Perkins school districts. I guess if I was really going to opine, Sandusky is essentially is wasting its time. Other than that, I don't care.
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Post by curmudgeon on Aug 1, 2019 23:09:48 GMT -5
I'm glad they have that option. I'm sure SMCC has some good athletes that didn't want to change schools or settle for high school's version of arena football.
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Aug 2, 2019 7:56:52 GMT -5
I think it is really giving a lot of parents too much credit to say they would clearly know the OHSAA policies. It took my mom ten track meets before she remembered the name of my event. We are pretty deep in the weeds on this voyage we call NCoast. Or did you all forget why we carry these machetes?
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Post by Birdman on Aug 2, 2019 13:39:16 GMT -5
Machetes.....
Bro I got that rail gun Ventura had in Predator. So come with me if you want to live!!!!
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Post by kingmartinez on Aug 2, 2019 14:09:10 GMT -5
I agree that 11-man football won't be as easy to bring back at SMCC and those connected there think. As previously mentioned elsewhere by some others, the fear of this situation happening again may keep the non-conference folks at bay, let alone should others in that division look to drop to 8-man.
Yeah - I'm aware of SMCC's role initiating the voucher program. I just believe in taking the high road, most especially when the Tweet Sandusky sent will have zero impact on their football program.
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Post by kniteflyer on Aug 2, 2019 15:46:41 GMT -5
I think it is really giving a lot of parents too much credit to say they would clearly know the OHSAA policies. It took my mom ten track meets before she remembered the name of my event. We are pretty deep in the weeds on this voyage we call NCoast. Or did you all forget why we carry these machetes? I disagree. The SSMCC parents have known about the likely possibility of this (dropping 11 man) for a month, maybe longer. Those discussions (transferring elsewhere) have long since been concluded. Not every kid was or would be looking to leave, but believe me, those that who were/are thinking about it have their ducks in line and their homework is completed.
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Post by piratefan on Aug 2, 2019 16:26:37 GMT -5
I hate to say it, and I'll probably get bashed soundly for it, but the SMCC football program has been on life support for several years now. I think when the players and parents spend a couple weeks driving 2 or more hours to even get to a game, 8 man football at SMCC will quickly "fade into the sunset". That'll get "old" really quick. Frankly, imho, if SMCC completely does away with the football program, not too many area fans would even notice, or care. Sad? Yes, but also, it's been very obvious the last few years that their once proud football program is slowly dying.
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