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Sept 21, 2019 21:51:07 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2019 21:51:07 GMT -5
The Esposito girl from Sandusky had the best conference record going into seeding. Clyde, Perkins, and Norwalk got together and screwed her. The number one seed had two losses to Esposito who only had one. Sandusky against the world
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Post by sportsvideo on Sept 21, 2019 23:06:37 GMT -5
she play tennis? i just know her from basketball
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Post by galion on Sept 21, 2019 23:17:33 GMT -5
Regardless of the seed she still has to win the matches. I take it from the post that she must not have.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2019 7:23:52 GMT -5
It cost her 1st team honors, she got beat by eventually the champion but 1st seed got a bye and basically walked into the finals, not saying she should have won but she at least would of played the girl who beat her in the finals if seeding was done the RIGHT WAY.
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Post by galion on Sept 22, 2019 9:09:04 GMT -5
Seeding isn't just based on your conference record. It's your overall record that plays a part as well. How you fared in other tournaments, etc. It's very similar to wrestling in this way. Also, if she got beat by the eventual champion BEFORE she even got to the finals then apparently the seeding was pretty accurate. If you get beat in the first or second round by somebody that you refuse to admit is better than you that's on you not your seed. If she didn't get a bye then she still only needed to win 2 matches to get to the finals.
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Post by sportsvideo on Sept 22, 2019 9:25:55 GMT -5
well seeding is a factor,, because if you are #1, you likely play #4 instead of having to go through the #2 / 3 before getting to the finals.. if this is a seeding for a conference tournament,, then it should only involve conference matchups.. if its a different style tournament, then its overall,,, which then should but never is looked at as strength of opponents, wins-losses ect...
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Post by galion on Sept 22, 2019 16:05:41 GMT -5
well seeding is a factor,, because if you are #1, you likely play #4 instead of having to go through the #2 / 3 before getting to the finals.. if this is a seeding for a conference tournament,, then it should only involve conference matchups.. if its a different style tournament, then its overall,,, which then should but never is looked at as strength of opponents, wins-losses ect... [b Yes we all understand how seeding works. However in this situation you have to read between the lines of the first post. Because of the sectional calendar conference tennis tournaments are played BEFORE the regular season conference schedule is finished. We clearly have a situation here where three girls have beaten each other and the coaches voted on the seed. There was no crime committed here
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Sept 22, 2019 17:49:47 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2019 17:49:47 GMT -5
No, just a lack of moral integrity and ethics
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Post by galion on Sept 22, 2019 19:21:43 GMT -5
No, just a lack of moral integrity and ethics Just answer me this question if you can. Had each of these girls faced off against each other twice or do their teams still have matches against each other this week?
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Sept 22, 2019 21:38:27 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2019 21:38:27 GMT -5
Esposito faced the number one seed twice and beat her both times, Esposito only conference loss was to the number two seed once who beat her in tournament as well. they play a second time this week. The bottom line is you vote based on best record at the time. Not sure how you can justify having number 1 and number 2 seeds with two losses each and the number 3 seed has one loss
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Sept 22, 2019 22:49:25 GMT -5
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Post by galion on Sept 22, 2019 22:49:25 GMT -5
This is exactly what I was talking about a beat B and B beat c and c beat a. Your solution is to reward c for not having faced b twice yet. Unfortunately the results of the tournament speak for themselves. The coaches got it right. You want to reward player c and punish player b for not having finished the regular season yet. That’s not right either. I also would have to question the logic of the Sandusky coach for not moving her to the side of the bracket with the girl she already had beaten.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2019 5:24:01 GMT -5
Okay, so how can you reward someone with more losses in conference play to a number 1 seed? Who I might add was defeated soundly by number 3 twice. So if two football teams play each other twice and one team wins twice head to head and they one team ends up with one less loss. The team with more losses gets rewarded based on your logic. Also, there is no other side if the bracket.
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Post by galion on Sept 23, 2019 5:59:49 GMT -5
You keep ignoring the number 2 seed in your argument. Again each girl beat the other so it was a coin flip situation. Perhaps I confused you with two sides. There is a top and a bottom half of the bracket and your coach could have chosen to put his girl in the top with the 1 seed who she had twice beaten soundly instead of the bottom half with the girl who had beaten her.
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Post by sport24278 on Sept 23, 2019 7:48:00 GMT -5
wow, somebody is butt hurt. norwalk girl beat the perkins girl twice. sandusky girl beats the norwalk girl twice. perkins girl beats the sandusky girl the one time that they played. so based on that, you think your girl deserved the 1 seed? oh, and she got beat by the perkins girl again at the tourney. so all 3 girls are essentially 2-2 vs each other. you really come off as a crybaby.
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Post by jmorgret07 on Sept 23, 2019 16:31:22 GMT -5
It might just be me, but using names in these posts sure would make it easier to explain and discuss instead of seed numbers.
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Post by maplecityjake on Sept 25, 2019 8:02:25 GMT -5
wow, somebody is butt hurt. norwalk girl beat the perkins girl twice. sandusky girl beats the norwalk girl twice. perkins girl beats the sandusky girl the one time that they played. so based on that, you think your girl deserved the 1 seed? oh, and she got beat by the perkins girl again at the tourney. so all 3 girls are essentially 2-2 vs each other. you really come off as a crybaby. he's my friend, so I can say not crybaby. He's just passionate about his Streaks.
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Post by dude on Sept 25, 2019 8:21:16 GMT -5
This happens all the time when coaches make the decisions. In every end of season voting, in all sports, there will be a kid that gets votes based on a single performance or factor. It's not always conspiracy. Sometimes the better player or team can lose and still, based on the body of work over the course of a season, can be voted ahead of the player or team they lost to. this is not uncommon.
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Post by giffiusmc74 on Oct 13, 2019 12:27:09 GMT -5
Actually for some conferences, they vote for the top two seeds and then the rest draw from a hat and place themselves where they want to be placed according to what's left on the board! Not sure if that's the case or not - but that's how the MOAC has done it in the past.
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