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Post by berg19 on Oct 15, 2019 15:26:15 GMT -5
How about a SBC Black Swamp Division - seriously. Fremont Clay BG Maumee Napoleon Team #6? Two crossovers with the Lake. I don't see the Lake balking at that set up. Maybe Perrysburg as Team # 6 Or Springfield
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Post by chs71 on Oct 15, 2019 15:30:20 GMT -5
How about a SBC Black Swamp Division - seriously. Fremont Clay BG Maumee Napoleon Team #6? Two crossovers with the Lake. I don't see the Lake balking at that set up. There is absolutely no reason for BG, Maumee, and Napoleon to leave the NLL to join a 5 or 6 team league with Ross and Clay.
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Post by chs71 on Oct 15, 2019 15:33:14 GMT -5
The NLL is the way to go. Just wait and they'll be able to swap with AW or Perrysburg That was the other league I was thinking of couldn't think of the name, Anthony Wayne would probably be the better fit for Trac. Perrysburg would probably be just like Fremont in the Trac Perrysburg is bigger than AW and wins more league championships.
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Post by footballfan on Oct 15, 2019 17:24:12 GMT -5
Same division or not most Bay schools just don’t have the same number of boys on their teams as the Lake. Look at Vermilion, 30 kids maybe? But we expect them to play Clyde, TC, Sandusky, Bellevue, Norwalk their first 5 weeks of the season and still have 30 kids left? Besides, adding Fremont would help remove that one extra long road trip and would surely help with ticket sales. The expectation that because you are in the same division you have to play within your division is not realistic if you have only 30 kids on your team while everyone else has 50+. I'm so tired of hearing that BS. DIV play each other! Bellevue plays Clyde, PC, and Perkins same division. Shorter travel and saves schools money. They will play you in basketball! It's a joke. JMO
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Post by footballfan on Oct 15, 2019 17:26:00 GMT -5
It is bullsh_t that schools in the same division won't play you!! Most schools in the same division don't play each other. Same size DIV. Play each other save schools money on travel and stay local.
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Post by coachdappling on Oct 15, 2019 18:57:32 GMT -5
How about a SBC Black Swamp Division - seriously. Fremont Clay BG Maumee Napoleon Team #6? Two crossovers with the Lake. I don't see the Lake balking at that set up. Ok King...I could totally get behind that. I would be that Napoleon and BG would consider it as well. What about TC as Team #6?
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Post by coachdappling on Oct 15, 2019 18:59:02 GMT -5
How about a SBC Black Swamp Division - seriously. Fremont Clay BG Maumee Napoleon Team #6? Two crossovers with the Lake. I don't see the Lake balking at that set up. There is absolutely no reason for BG, Maumee, and Napoleon to leave the NLL to join a 5 or 6 team league with Ross and Clay. Did you look at the enrollment figures I posted CHS71? AW and Pburg will be 1800+ in the next several years.
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Post by kingmartinez on Oct 15, 2019 19:13:22 GMT -5
How about a SBC Black Swamp Division - seriously. Fremont Clay BG Maumee Napoleon Team #6? Two crossovers with the Lake. I don't see the Lake balking at that set up. Ok King...I could totally get behind that. I would be that Napoleon and BG would consider it as well. What about TC as Team #6? Clay, Fremont and Maumee all are looking for a new conference. Napoleon would make sense that they are too. BG? They're declining and I could see the geography working with this set up considering the enrollments are more similar as well (compared to the Perrysburg, AW, Sylvania's). These schools are not going to stay with Perrysburg and AW forever when they are; 1. Huge 2. Successful I like TC as #6 but I'm not sure who would fill the #6 then in the Lake unless PC came up. They have the most courage but that's asking a lot, especially when they don't have too (just like TC moving to the Black Swamp Division).
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Post by sbc95 on Oct 15, 2019 19:35:22 GMT -5
Hasn't this horse been beaten and taken to the glue factory long enough? This will never happen. They wanted in the NOL for years also. They're the guy with no dignity left but he still keeps asking the same girl out. Bless their hearts! I agree, but let's face the facts. Clyde runs the league and gets up at the meetings tell everyone that. The River has no votes, ask the AD's how the last meeting went with all the yelling and cussing from Clyde. The Lake complains the Bay school won't play them, its the same thing Clyde is doing to Ross. I heard that Ross may go independent in the near future.
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Post by sbc95 on Oct 15, 2019 19:38:06 GMT -5
I agree, but let's face the facts. Clyde runs the league and gets up at the meetings tell everyone that. The River has no votes, ask the AD's how the last meeting went with all the yelling and cussing from Clyde. The Lake complains the Bay school won't play them, its the same thing Clyde is doing to Ross. I heard that Ross may go independent in the near future. I Jake guarantee you Ross will never go Independent. If Clyde don’t want Fremont put them in the Trac let’s see how long they can take it before they would want out!! Lol 😂
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Post by Green Falcon on Oct 15, 2019 19:47:09 GMT -5
How about a SBC Black Swamp Division - seriously. Fremont Clay BG Maumee Napoleon Team #6? Two crossovers with the Lake. I don't see the Lake balking at that set up. Defiance as #6, they're no stranger to very long bus rides
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Post by chs71 on Oct 16, 2019 9:48:52 GMT -5
There is absolutely no discussion in BG of leaving the NLL.
The school that wants out of the NLL is Maumee. They are way too big for the NBC and enrollment-wise they would be right in the middle of the current the SBC-Lake. Are they willing to travel to join a league that is a better fit for them size-wise? I don't know. Maybe someone should ask them. Travelling to Maumee for the Lake schools would be exactly the same in time as travelling to Clay.
Adding one school to create a 7 team division does not solve the scheduling problems. So adding just Ross might be good for Ross, but nobody else. But if Maumee would join, I think the Lake should add Ross. Yeah they are big, but they are right there on Rt. 20. Clay is even bigger than Ross. Adding two schools that are much bigger than the average of the Lake division would be a huge change and isn't going to happen.
Napoleon is too far away.
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Post by chs71 on Oct 16, 2019 9:52:46 GMT -5
There is absolutely no reason for BG, Maumee, and Napoleon to leave the NLL to join a 5 or 6 team league with Ross and Clay. Did you look at the enrollment figures I posted CHS71? AW and Pburg will be 1800+ in the next several years. I know the enrollment figures better than you. BG, Maumee, and Napoleon will not leave the NLL to join a 5 or 6 team league with Ross and Clay.
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Post by cbus on Oct 16, 2019 9:56:13 GMT -5
The State of Ohio should dictate scheduling. Apparently it’s done in other states.
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Post by chs71 on Oct 16, 2019 10:10:31 GMT -5
The State of Ohio should dictate scheduling. Apparently it’s done in other states. Absolutely. Politicians do everything better.
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Post by coachdappling on Oct 16, 2019 10:12:23 GMT -5
There is absolutely no discussion in BG of leaving the NLL. The school that wants out of the NLL is Maumee. They are way too big for the NBC and enrollment-wise they would be right in the middle of the current the SBC-Lake. Are they willing to travel to join a league that is a better fit for them size-wise? I don't know. Maybe someone should ask them. Travelling to Maumee for the Lake schools would be exactly the same in time as travelling to Clay. Adding one school to create a 7 team division does not solve the scheduling problems. So adding just Ross might be good for Ross, but nobody else. But if Maumee would join, I think the Lake should add Ross. Yeah they are big, but they are right there on Rt. 20. Clay is even bigger than Ross. Adding two schools that are much bigger than the average of the Lake division would be a huge change and isn't going to happen. Napoleon is too far away. JMEO A total Yes. "The school that wants out of the NLL is Maumee." Agreed. The NBC thinks so too. "They are way too big for the NBC " Agreed. A Maumee admin I spoke to said Maumee would be a "perfect fit." "they would be right in the middle of the current the SBC-Lake. The same admin said that there would be community backlash against the travel "Are they willing to travel to join a league that is a better fit size-wise?"
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Post by fliers62 on Oct 16, 2019 10:16:15 GMT -5
In my perfect world, which is not perfect, the SBC could make it work, but sometimes relationships have to end. The GBC and the NOL learned this. I would prefer Clyde stay in the SBC, but at this point it is only a name. If I had to put together a conference with 8 teams, which I think we need to be more stable, would look like this:
Bellevue Clyde Fremont Norwalk Perkins Sandusky Tiffin Columbian Clay or Maumee
I am well aware High School Athletics is not about the $$$$$, but I have the thought process of some of the others on here. The gates being bigger is something that is better for both schools......financially, community support, atmosphere for the kids and fans, etc etc. Bigger gates does not just have to mean the money aspect, but don't fool yourself, with community support at an all time low in terms of taxpayers not wanting to support their schools through taxes, the Athletic Departments will need the money they bring in to survive. Now, I want to throw a disclaimer here: It is everyone's right to deny a levy and I know it goes far beyond our communities as the federal and state governments have really messed things up for the education systems.
What I would like to see is an 8 School league for all these teams, but for Clyde Specifically I would like to see more out of conference games against the Northern Lakes League, Ohio Cardinal Conference, and some of the D2 TRAC schools would be nice. I think the days of playing local teams such as Eastwood and other DIV and DV local teams are past us. In a good sense it is sad, but at the same time Clyde has steamrolled too many of the teams in the last 12 years for them to want to play us. I don't blame them.
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Post by cbus on Oct 16, 2019 12:11:59 GMT -5
The State of Ohio should dictate scheduling. Apparently it’s done in other states. Absolutely. Politicians do everything better. It would be the OHSAA.
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Post by dolittle on Oct 16, 2019 12:56:16 GMT -5
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Post by hsfootballnwo on Oct 17, 2019 11:28:23 GMT -5
I agree with Fliers62...
SBC Lake Division
Bellevue (252) Clyde (256) Fremont Ross (454) Maumee (285) Norwalk (318) Perkins (252) Sandusky (338) Tiffin Columbian (333)
The downside for Maumee is the travel they'd have to undergo in the Lake.
Northern Lakes League
Anthony Wayne (544) Bowling Green (361) Clay (442) Napoleon (248) Northview (511) Perrysburg (672) Southview (368) Springfield (452)
Three Rivers Athletic Conference
Central Catholic (219) Findlay (600) Lima Senior (429) St. Francis (429) St. John's (383) Whitmer (839)
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Post by bigwill on Oct 17, 2019 11:39:24 GMT -5
In my perfect world, which is not perfect, the SBC could make it work, but sometimes relationships have to end. The GBC and the NOL learned this. I would prefer Clyde stay in the SBC, but at this point it is only a name. If I had to put together a conference with 8 teams, which I think we need to be more stable, would look like this: Bellevue Clyde Fremont Norwalk Perkins Sandusky Tiffin Columbian Clay or Maumee I am well aware High School Athletics is not about the $$$$$, but I have the thought process of some of the others on here. The gates being bigger is something that is better for both schools......financially, community support, atmosphere for the kids and fans, etc etc. Bigger gates does not just have to mean the money aspect, but don't fool yourself, with community support at an all time low in terms of taxpayers not wanting to support their schools through taxes, the Athletic Departments will need the money they bring in to survive. Now, I want to throw a disclaimer here: It is everyone's right to deny a levy and I know it goes far beyond our communities as the federal and state governments have really messed things up for the education systems. What I would like to see is an 8 School league for all these teams, but for Clyde Specifically I would like to see more out of conference games against the Northern Lakes League, Ohio Cardinal Conference, and some of the D2 TRAC schools would be nice. I think the days of playing local teams such as Eastwood and other DIV and DV local teams are past us. In a good sense it is sad, but at the same time Clyde has steamrolled too many of the teams in the last 12 years for them to want to play us. I don't blame them. To me, this set up is ideal w/ Clay. Travel isn’t terrible to get out there. And the smaller Lake schools could still have teams like Huron on the schedule.
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Post by John on Oct 17, 2019 18:44:20 GMT -5
No ross is not joining.Were fine we finished 2nd in trac in 2014.We can compete For us it depends on injuries and sr class.This year we had injuries coupled with youth .future is bright.We tried a few years back for shc but I think we realize sbc lake Is a mess.
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Post by John on Oct 17, 2019 18:48:09 GMT -5
We are a sleeping giant..Alot freshman and sophomores getting butt kicked now, it will turn for us .Kids will remember .
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Post by maplecityjake on Oct 17, 2019 19:11:00 GMT -5
We are a sleeping giant..Alot freshman and sophomores getting butt kicked now, it will turn for us .Kids will remember . 2014 was an anomaly. And you're right; kids remember. Sports are mental, and those kids will feel defeated before the game begins. It also doesn't help reminding everyone how much a disadvantage it is going against most of TRAC. Not saying you, but others. More than anything, they'll need to go the extra mile to compete.
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Post by John on Oct 17, 2019 19:20:08 GMT -5
How ironic it is and sad we play whitmer who has thousand boys more than Fremont. Findlay who is growing rapidly has 500 more boys than ross.Central catholic who recruits all over Toledo seemingly have 10 and 0 talent every year and crush st.johns whitmer ,findlay everyone in trac.whitmer has lost 6 of last 7 with central .Findlay too..I'm concerned about 7th grade numbers for fremont.Used too have 2 big teams 30 kids each.Now just 1 maybe...Gotta See goin forward what happens. .
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Post by Keith on Oct 17, 2019 19:21:21 GMT -5
The days of Fremont Ross being a feared football powerhouse are long gone. Ross does not belong in the TRAC and will never be able to effectively compete in that league. Whether it is the SBC, NLL a new league or an independent schedule, the change should be made asap.
In my humble opinion, I like this as a new conference...
Sandusky Fremont Ross Tiffin Columbian Norwalk Mansfield Senior Mansfield Madison Ashland Lexington
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Post by John on Oct 17, 2019 19:26:28 GMT -5
Keth
I saw 27 7 th graders.NOT lying they practice by bypass behind ymcs.Our numbers are not good.When my boys played there were 60 kids in 7 th grade with 2 big teams purple and white
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Post by John on Oct 17, 2019 19:30:40 GMT -5
Well those schools in trac currently are at a different level.We gotta be careful with kids having lower numbers .Idk.
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Post by John on Oct 17, 2019 19:35:36 GMT -5
I'm taking off,if anybody hears anymore on ross message me..Our administration Has too look into this.
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Post by shadowking on Oct 17, 2019 19:40:28 GMT -5
Put the bottle down your drunk posts are an embarassment.
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