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Post by DrTorch on Oct 26, 2019 11:38:59 GMT -5
i dunno what you're watching but they are struggling atm
2nd quarter has been our so we will see what happens heading into the half
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Post by sportsjock on Oct 26, 2019 13:15:32 GMT -5
i dunno what you're watching but they are struggling atm 2nd quarter has been our so we will see what happens heading into the half Nice TD drive, with the OL blowing holes and final TD play the line sealed down the defensive front for Dobbins to go the distance, untouched. Dobbins averaging 8 ypc. Think you can breath easier.
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Post by ronburgandy on Oct 26, 2019 13:35:03 GMT -5
Took them a little bit to get going but once Ohio State has momentum this team is unreal.
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Post by Whittaker on Oct 26, 2019 13:37:54 GMT -5
This Buckeye team is well-disciplined and well-coached. Add in the talent and you have as good of Buckeye team I've ever seen through 8 games.
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Post by Birdman on Oct 26, 2019 13:52:54 GMT -5
I was close but wrong, it won’t be 35-14 final. Buckeyes look very good. Better post to come.
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Post by Birdman on Oct 26, 2019 14:21:59 GMT -5
Chase Young- Is the best college football player, period. Today he showed it and will continue to show it. If he isn’t put on the Heisman watch, I think we have lost our way in the concept of “best player.”
Justin Fields- continues to progress, improve, and show why he too is a Heisman candidate. He took some sacks and hits, but made great decisions to help guide his team to a thunderous victory.
JK Dobbins- aka the best running back in the big10. Impressive doesn’t fit how he played today. That young man is truly something specially. He is quietly becoming one of if not the best RB, the buckeyes have had.
Overall. I think it’s time people stop using the “soft schedule” “they don’t play anyone” mentality. This team is firing on all cylinders. I’m starting to see a trend of they play then adapt to what they see, which is fine.
They have so many play makers, if you forget about one or soften up on one, they key in on that and make you pay.
This is a very realistic national championship team, something we haven’t been confident in saying in a while.
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Post by Rambo McClain on Oct 26, 2019 15:40:37 GMT -5
Great win.
Ohio State's REGULAR Season record since the start of 2012 98.0% 50-1 - When any QB on the roster not named JT Barrett IV started the game 87.8% 36-5 - When JT Barrett IV started the game
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Post by Birdman on Oct 26, 2019 15:44:13 GMT -5
Rambo,
Great stat, but you know us JT lovers are going to give you some flack!!! I do like that better stat without him though!!!!
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Post by sportsjock on Oct 26, 2019 19:31:12 GMT -5
Great win. Ohio State's REGULAR Season record since the start of 2012 98.0% 50-1 - When any QB on the roster not named JT Barrett IV started the game 87.8% 36-5 - When JT Barrett IV started the game This season has nothing to do with J.T., except for those who wish to dwell on their past obsessions. Let it go, man......
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 26, 2019 20:38:10 GMT -5
He's not a "man".
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Post by Birdman on Oct 26, 2019 20:54:42 GMT -5
Alright enough with JT, about today’s game guys!
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Post by sportsjock on Oct 27, 2019 4:03:27 GMT -5
I can't remember a past, Buckeye team that we were not discussing an area of weakness or concern, at this point in the season. Literally, this years team has no perceived weaknesses. The QB bench is the only thing that might come to mind, but one can have confidence, the coaches are on top of things.
This is the best coached Ohio State football team in my lifetime and I can't imagine a better one, beyond that. This team is so physically and athletically talented, with a keenly instilled mental aspect, that it's a given, we have not seen the finished product quite yet.
Watching the calm, demeanor of post game coaching comments, you get that projection of an inner culture, that has thoroughly permeated every aspect of this team as an ideal classroom setting.
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Post by buckeyekid on Oct 27, 2019 4:30:17 GMT -5
Couple thoughts from yesterday: The OSU depth on Defense just wears out opposing offenses. They can shuffle in and out about 10 lineman it seems.We had a couple DL out for this game too. Also at LB we now have 5 guys who are quite capable during the course of the game keeping them fresh throughout as well. The latest guy to be red hot on defense is #47 Justin Hilliard who it seems like has been at OSU for 7 years or so. He's battled injuries but now is making plays both on special teams and during regular downs. Even the DB's rotate a little bit with Cam Brown being a young CB who fits the mold of a future NFL DB from "DBU".
On offense, it appeared as though our OL just wore out the Wisc DL and LB's as JK Dobbins was running at will in the 2nd half. It really was a miserable day and I think the starch came out of Wisc after they failed to convert on 4th down late in the 3rd quarter. The game was over after that play.
It's crazy but I can only think of 2 plays where Wisc got the better of us. The tipped shanked punt, and the TD pass where our DB didn't turn around at the goal line. Other than that, we won almost every other play.
One last thought, I wonder if Garrett Wilson will be the new guy on punt returns? He really made a nice return in the 2nd half and I predict he'll bring one back to the house before the season is over.
I agree 100% with sportsjock in that the QB position is the only area to not have quality depth. Also the coaching staff at every single position has their unit playing well. The addition of Greg Mattison and Jeff Hafley and Al Washington have made our Defense light years better.
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Post by sportsjock on Oct 27, 2019 4:52:40 GMT -5
Couple thoughts from yesterday: The OSU depth on Defense just wears out opposing offenses. They can shuffle in and out about 10 lineman it seems.We had a couple DL out for this game too. Also at LB we now have 5 guys who are quite capable during the course of the game keeping them fresh throughout as well. The latest guy to be red hot on defense is #47 Justin Hilliard who it seems like has been at OSU for 7 years or so. He's battled injuries but now is making plays both on special teams and during regular downs. Even the DB's rotate a little bit with Cam Brown being a young CB who fits the mold of a future NFL DB from "DBU". On offense, it appeared as though our OL just wore out the Wisc DL and LB's as JK Dobbins was running at will in the 2nd half. It really was a miserable day and I think the starch came out of Wisc after they failed to convert on 4th down late in the 3rd quarter. The game was over after that play. It's crazy but I can only think of 2 plays where Wisc got the better of us. The tipped shanked punt, and the TD pass where our DB didn't turn around at the goal line. Other than that, we won almost every other play. One last thought, I wonder if Garrett Wilson will be the new guy on punt returns? He really made a nice return in the 2nd half and I predict he'll bring one back to the house before the season is over. I agree 100% with sportsjock in that the QB position is the only area to not have quality depth. Also the coaching staff at every single position has their unit playing well. The addition of Greg Mattison and Jeff Hafley and Al Washington have made our Defense light years better. Make that 'six' linebackers, where the 'Predator' made a brief appearance at ILB at one point. Post game, they were talking Chase Young should be among considerations for the Heisman. The best player in America, can do it all. Credit Nick Bosa for being the supreme mentor for his younger brethrens. Chase is passing the culture to Zach Harrison as well. The entire LB unit took a lot of flack last year and rightly so. Amazing transformation in a single season, that no one can earn a meal ticket, running between the tackles on this unit......no one. From worst to first in one year....amazing. I really like Garrett Wilson as a returner, but I think coaches want to preserve his exposure to unwanted hits, since he's so valuable as a receiver. Demario McCall goes down much too easily and his lack of physicality has been a factor in his non-presence on offense.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 27, 2019 11:45:41 GMT -5
I can't remember a past, Buckeye team that we were not discussing an area of weakness or concern, at this point in the season. Literally, this years team has no perceived weaknesses. The QB bench is the only thing that might come to mind, but one can have confidence, the coaches are on top of things. This is the best coached Ohio State football team in my lifetime and I can't imagine a better one, beyond that. This team is so physically and athletically talented, with a keenly instilled mental aspect, that it's a given, we have not seen the finished product quite yet. Watching the calm, demeanor of post game coaching comments, you get that projection of an inner culture, that has thoroughly permeated every aspect of this team as an ideal classroom setting. IMO, I think the depth at QB has been overblown. ALL teams that have a Heisman contender at QB would usually see a considerable drop off if the QB goes down in the middle of a game, especially against a good defense. First of all, these days with The Transfer Portal it will be rarer and rarer for the 2nd team QB to be another Heisman worthy QB, unless he's a Freshman with no college experience. Secondly, the second team QB gets very few reps in practice once the season starts. IF the second team QB is equally talented with the Heisman candidate starter it will still usually take a couple of weeks of practice for him to be close to what the starter is.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 27, 2019 12:22:27 GMT -5
Couple thoughts from yesterday: The OSU depth on Defense just wears out opposing offenses. They can shuffle in and out about 10 lineman it seems.We had a couple DL out for this game too. Also at LB we now have 5 guys who are quite capable during the course of the game keeping them fresh throughout as well. The latest guy to be red hot on defense is #47 Justin Hilliard who it seems like has been at OSU for 7 years or so. He's battled injuries but now is making plays both on special teams and during regular downs. Even the DB's rotate a little bit with Cam Brown being a young CB who fits the mold of a future NFL DB from "DBU". On offense, it appeared as though our OL just wore out the Wisc DL and LB's as JK Dobbins was running at will in the 2nd half. It really was a miserable day and I think the starch came out of Wisc after they failed to convert on 4th down late in the 3rd quarter. The game was over after that play. It's crazy but I can only think of 2 plays where Wisc got the better of us. The tipped shanked punt, and the TD pass where our DB didn't turn around at the goal line. Other than that, we won almost every other play. One last thought, I wonder if Garrett Wilson will be the new guy on punt returns? He really made a nice return in the 2nd half and I predict he'll bring one back to the house before the season is over. I agree 100% with sportsjock in that the QB position is the only area to not have quality depth. Also the coaching staff at every single position has their unit playing well. The addition of Greg Mattison and Jeff Hafley and Al Washington have made our Defense light years better. Actually Ohio State is 4 deep at CB, as their #3 CB Shaun Wade is a starter in place of a Safety. Which is HUGE as most teams employ a slot receiver who is just as fast as their X and Y. Often mismatches happen when a Safety or LB has to cover the slot receiver. That doesn't happen to Ohio State with Wade in the stating unit. Against Wisconsin it was EASY for the secondary. They played man coverage on every down and dared Wisconsin to take one of their TE/OTs out of the game. Which would signal defeat by them, as they believe they can run the ball against anyone in the country. If you notice Garrett Wilson wasn't used as a return guy until Ohio State had the game in hand. Ryan Day was asked about using Wilson more after the return he had early in the season. Day responded by saying, THE single most important quality of a punt returner is securing the football. Being a Freshman, Wilson as yet does not have the confidence of Day to do that 100% of the time. A fumbled or muffed punt can be the single biggest turning point in a big game. What was obvious, even before the game was over. Wisconsin did not have the best defense in the country, Ohio State did. Wisconsin did not have the best O-line in the country, Ohio State did. Wisconsin did not have the best Running Back in the country, Ohio State did. I guess the detractors will always be able to say that Ohio State hasn't played anyone, when they continue to dominate every opponent.
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Post by sportsjock on Oct 27, 2019 13:41:18 GMT -5
As you mentioned, it is very difficult for opposing offenses to create mismatches with Shawn Wade's presence, as well as having Branden White with equal speed and mobility. Either can pick up the slot man.
Ohio State receivers have been sure handed all year. With the sloppy wet conditions, balls were squirting out of their grasp, as the announcers pointed out with disbelief, the gloves were still on. Dobbins had no problem catching & retaining the ball and he was minus gloves.
Ohio State is now the #1 defense in America. With the #1 scoring defense and the #1 defense in yardage allowed.
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Post by Whittaker on Oct 27, 2019 14:18:35 GMT -5
Many of us were a little worried before the game started. The rain clearly favored Wisconsin's style of play. Well into the 2nd quarter it looked like it could be the type of low scoring game that could be decided by a bad break or two...a tipped ball that gets intercepted, a bad punt snap, a crucial penalty. We've all seen teams beat themselves. We've seen young men make critical mistakes under big game pressure. We've seen solid players commit stupid penalties that swung these types of games. How did the Buckeyes hold up under big game pressure, wind and rain? For the game: * Zero Interceptions * Zero Fumbles Lost * 2 Penalties for 15 Yards
Well coached. Well disciplined. A strong focus on every player doing their job and sticking to the game-plan.
Vegas Insider now has Bama and The Buckeyes both at 5/2 to win the championship.
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Post by DrTorch on Oct 27, 2019 14:45:12 GMT -5
I can't remember a past, Buckeye team that we were not discussing an area of weakness or concern, at this point in the season. Literally, this years team has no perceived weaknesses. The QB bench is the only thing that might come to mind, but one can have confidence, the coaches are on top of things. This is the best coached Ohio State football team in my lifetime and I can't imagine a better one, beyond that. This team is so physically and athletically talented, with a keenly instilled mental aspect, that it's a given, we have not seen the finished product quite yet. Watching the calm, demeanor of post game coaching comments, you get that projection of an inner culture, that has thoroughly permeated every aspect of this team as an ideal classroom setting. IMO, I think the depth at QB has been overblown. ALL teams that have a Heisman contender at QB would usually see a considerable drop off if the QB goes down in the middle of a game, especially against a good defense. First of all, these days with The Transfer Portal it will be rarer and rarer for the 2nd team QB to be another Heisman worthy QB, unless he's a Freshman with no college experience. Secondly, the second team QB gets very few reps in practice once the season starts. IF the second team QB is equally talented with the Heisman candidate starter it will still usually take a couple of weeks of practice for him to be close to what the starter is. lolZ you were one of the ones blowing it late last summer boss
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Post by DrTorch on Oct 27, 2019 14:49:34 GMT -5
Many of us were a little worried before the game started. The rain clearly favored Wisconsin's style of play. Well into the 2nd quarter it looked like it could be the type of low scoring game that could be decided by a bad break or two...a tipped ball that gets intercepted, a bad punt snap, a crucial penalty. We've all seen teams beat themselves. We've seen young men make critical mistakes under big game pressure. We've seen solid players commit stupid penalties that swung these types of games. How did the Buckeyes hold up under big game pressure, wind and rain? For the game: * Zero Interceptions * Zero Fumbles Lost * 2 Penalties for 15 Yards Well coached. Well disciplined. A strong focus on every player doing their job and sticking to the game-plan. Vegas Insider now has Bama and The Buckeyes both at 5/2 to win the championship. i saw this and my first thought was to shade some Clemson because i would have them at the best odds to win it all RIGHT NOW because they have the easiest road of all the teams to make the playoffs for certain tells you where the money is flooding in more than anything
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Post by Whittaker on Oct 27, 2019 16:59:40 GMT -5
Many of us were a little worried before the game started. The rain clearly favored Wisconsin's style of play. Well into the 2nd quarter it looked like it could be the type of low scoring game that could be decided by a bad break or two...a tipped ball that gets intercepted, a bad punt snap, a crucial penalty. We've all seen teams beat themselves. We've seen young men make critical mistakes under big game pressure. We've seen solid players commit stupid penalties that swung these types of games. How did the Buckeyes hold up under big game pressure, wind and rain? For the game: * Zero Interceptions * Zero Fumbles Lost * 2 Penalties for 15 Yards Well coached. Well disciplined. A strong focus on every player doing their job and sticking to the game-plan. Vegas Insider now has Bama and The Buckeyes both at 5/2 to win the championship. i saw this and my first thought was to shade some Clemson because i would have them at the best odds to win it all RIGHT NOW because they have the easiest road of all the teams to make the playoffs for certain tells you where the money is flooding in more than anythingTrue. That huge Buckeye fanbase can move the line easier than most.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 27, 2019 17:51:15 GMT -5
IMO, I think the depth at QB has been overblown. ALL teams that have a Heisman contender at QB would usually see a considerable drop off if the QB goes down in the middle of a game, especially against a good defense. First of all, these days with The Transfer Portal it will be rarer and rarer for the 2nd team QB to be another Heisman worthy QB, unless he's a Freshman with no college experience. Secondly, the second team QB gets very few reps in practice once the season starts. IF the second team QB is equally talented with the Heisman candidate starter it will still usually take a couple of weeks of practice for him to be close to what the starter is. lolZ you were one of the ones blowing it late last summer boss Who's blowing who underling?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 27, 2019 18:25:19 GMT -5
Ohio State also has two of the smartest football players in the country. Justin Fields transferring from a middle of the pack SEC school to Ohio State and Jonah Jackson transferring from another Big Ten school where his team won 3 Big Ten games over the past 3 years. Both are now starting for a team likely to play for a National Title. A WISE decision by both.
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Post by sportsjock on Oct 27, 2019 18:43:39 GMT -5
Jonathon Taylor, "best back in America". Except, when he faces a Buckeye defense.
2017 Big Ten Championship 15 carries, 41 yds. 2.7 ypc
2019 20 carries, 52 yds. 2.6 ypc
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 28, 2019 11:46:45 GMT -5
One of the biggest reasons Ohio State has the best defense in the country hasn't gotten much mention. Against Wisconsin, during the first three quarters, Ohio State's defensive coaches played 7 DBs, 5 LBs and 8 D-Linemen. TWENTY defensive players rotated against one of the top teams in the country. That's insane!
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