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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 22, 2019 16:54:38 GMT -5
The Willard kids are athletic enough to play a sound man defense. However, it was TERRIBLE coaching to play a 1-3-1 in junior high to win games. Instead of playing NOTHING but man in junior high, losing a few more games, so they could now play man competently in high school.
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Post by truecrimson on Nov 22, 2019 16:59:14 GMT -5
The Willard kids are athletic enough to play a sound man defense. However, it was TERRIBLE coaching to play a 1-3-1 in junior high to win games. Instead of playing NOTHING but man in junior high, losing a few more games, so they could now play man competently in high school. If xlengend is correct and teams are blowing by defenders then man to man may be tough to do. pinkston at the top disrupts the flow and we are long enough to play 1-3-1.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 22, 2019 17:08:50 GMT -5
You thought Willard would be good enough to dominate Buckeye Valley, Triway and Ontario? Why? we have two of the best players in the district and other players that saw varsity minutes last year. Myles not playing hurt us also.why shouldn't I've thought that. I will say I don't have any clue about the teams we scrimmaged except for Ontario. If you had a clue about Ontario then you should have known they would be Willard's equal. They return 3 starters that averaged in doubled figures last year. One who started since he was a Freshman, will the best PG in Ontario history. A fourth starter lettered as a 6-4 Freshman and was a starter as a Soph, missed last year with knee surgery. The 5th starter is a 6-4 kid that lettered last year as a Soph. Triway, BV, and Ontario are all favorites to win their leagues this year. It was no shame to lose a few quarters to those teams. Willard will be fine in D3 IF they shore up their defense.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 22, 2019 17:15:09 GMT -5
The Willard kids are athletic enough to play a sound man defense. However, it was TERRIBLE coaching to play a 1-3-1 in junior high to win games. Instead of playing NOTHING but man in junior high, losing a few more games, so they could now play man competently in high school. If xlengend is correct and teams are blowing by defenders then man to man may be tough to do. pinkston at the top disrupts the flow and we are long enough to play 1-3-1. They wouldn't be "blowing by" them NOW, if they had learned to play man defense in Junior High. Even if his Junior High kids struggle playing man defense in Junior High, Balogh INSISTS they play nothing but man at that level.
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Post by xlegend on Nov 22, 2019 17:32:02 GMT -5
we have two of the best players in the district and other players that saw varsity minutes last year. Myles not playing hurt us also.why shouldn't I've thought that. I will say I don't have any clue about the teams we scrimmaged except for Ontario. If you had a clue about Ontario then you should have known they would be Willard's equal. They return 3 starters that averaged in doubled figures last year. One who started since he was a Freshman, will the best PG in Ontario history. A fourth starter lettered as Freshman and was a starter as a Soph, missed last year with knee surgery. The 5th starter is a 6-4 kid that lettered last year as a Soph. Triway, BV, and Ontario are all favorites to win their leagues this year. It was no shame to lose a few quarters to those teams. Willard will be fine IF they shore up their defense. it's not only defense.if you were there you also notice no big man and no depth. But your right Willard will be fine. 14 wins is still a good year and if we get some kids ready who knows. It's early. We'll see.go flashes
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Post by crimson5 on Nov 22, 2019 18:09:07 GMT -5
we have two of the best players in the district and other players that saw varsity minutes last year. Myles not playing hurt us also.why shouldn't I've thought that. I will say I don't have any clue about the teams we scrimmaged except for Ontario. If you had a clue about Ontario then you should have known they would be Willard's equal. They return 3 starters that averaged in doubled figures last year. One who started since he was a Freshman, will the best PG in Ontario history. A fourth starter lettered as Freshman and was a starter as a Soph, missed last year with knee surgery. The 5th starter is a 6-4 kid that lettered last year as a Soph. Triway, BV, and Ontario are all favorites to win their leagues this year. It was no shame to lose a few quarters to those teams. Willard will be fine IF they shore up their defense. Filmore is correct in his assessment of Ontario, they will be very very good this year.
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Post by truecrimson on Nov 22, 2019 18:28:46 GMT -5
If xlengend is correct and teams are blowing by defenders then man to man may be tough to do. pinkston at the top disrupts the flow and we are long enough to play 1-3-1. They wouldn't be "blowing by" them NOW, if they had learned to play man defense in Junior High. Even if his Junior High kids struggle playing man defense in Junior High, Balogh INSISTS they play nothing but man at that level. I suppose you could always teach them as freshman and sophomores. It is easy to cast blame on a MS coach. If juniors and seniors are struggling what happened to the two years in high school?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 22, 2019 18:36:36 GMT -5
If you had a clue about Ontario then you should have known they would be Willard's equal. They return 3 starters that averaged in doubled figures last year. One who started since he was a Freshman, will the best PG in Ontario history. A fourth starter lettered as Freshman and was a starter as a Soph, missed last year with knee surgery. The 5th starter is a 6-4 kid that lettered last year as a Soph. Triway, BV, and Ontario are all favorites to win their leagues this year. It was no shame to lose a few quarters to those teams. Willard will be fine IF they shore up their defense. it's not only defense.if you were there you also notice no big man and no depth. But your right Willard will be fine. 14 wins is still a good year and if we get some kids ready who knows. It's early. We'll see.go flashes I was there. I knew about Parrot and Baldridge. I was surprised that Willard only had 8 kids, did not know about the injury. Also surprised that none of the other 6 had elevated their game significantly. If your coach is worth his salt he will have Baldridge take one for the team and play in the post.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 22, 2019 18:41:02 GMT -5
They wouldn't be "blowing by" them NOW, if they had learned to play man defense in Junior High. Even if his Junior High kids struggle playing man defense in Junior High, Balogh INSISTS they play nothing but man at that level. I suppose you could always teach them as freshman and sophomores. It is easy to cast blame on a MS coach. If juniors and seniors are struggling what happened to the two years in high school? Not blaming the MS coaches. I put the onus on the head coach for not making his MS coaches have their kids play man. Joe also insists his Freshman and JV coaches have their teams play nothing but man. You tell me, what did the Willard kids play on Freshman and JV teams?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 22, 2019 18:49:55 GMT -5
If you had a clue about Ontario then you should have known they would be Willard's equal. They return 3 starters that averaged in doubled figures last year. One who started since he was a Freshman, will the best PG in Ontario history. A fourth starter lettered as Freshman and was a starter as a Soph, missed last year with knee surgery. The 5th starter is a 6-4 kid that lettered last year as a Soph. Triway, BV, and Ontario are all favorites to win their leagues this year. It was no shame to lose a few quarters to those teams. Willard will be fine IF they shore up their defense. Filmore is correct in his assessment of Ontario, they will be very very good this year. Don't use any "very" yet, way too early.
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Post by truecrimson on Nov 22, 2019 19:14:25 GMT -5
I suppose you could always teach them as freshman and sophomores. It is easy to cast blame on a MS coach. If juniors and seniors are struggling what happened to the two years in high school? Not blaming the MS coaches. I put the onus on the head coach for not making his MS coaches have their kids play man. Joe also insists his Freshman and JV coaches have their teams play nothing but man. You tell me, what did the Willard kids play on Freshman and JV teams? I have no idea what the freshman and jv played. I was sharing my opinion on defense based on the fact that xlegend said they were getting blown past in a scrimmage.
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Post by truecrimson on Nov 22, 2019 19:17:17 GMT -5
Not blaming the MS coaches. I put the onus on the head coach for not making his MS coaches have their kids play man. Joe also insists his Freshman and JV coaches have their teams play man. You tell me, what did the Willard kids play on Freshman and JV teams? Willard coach does a good job structurally with his youth program and getting kids involved. However, he has no clue how to develop kids from a coaching standpoint. Case in point(s), why doesn't Myles have a decent jump shot after 2.5 years with the Coach? why doesn't Baldridge have big time power moves inside after 2.5 years with the Coach? Why has Paxton become stagnant and appears hesitant to do anything when he gets the ball? Another year and Cooper and Baldridge will be gone, Coach will be 3 years into it, the talented Fresman class (back then) will now be seniors. That will be good time to reassess the situation. Is it true they made cuts this year? Do they have that many kids where they can cut kids now?
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Post by xlegend on Nov 23, 2019 2:14:35 GMT -5
it's not only defense.if you were there you also notice no big man and no depth. But your right Willard will be fine. 14 wins is still a good year and if we get some kids ready who knows. It's early. We'll see.go flashes I was there. I knew about Parrot and Baldridge. I was surprised that Willard only had 8 kids, did not know about the injury. Also surprised that none of the other 6 had elevated their game significantly. If your coach is worth his salt he will have Baldridge take one for the team and play in the post. it might not be up to baldridge to take one for the team. It might just be that's where the coach wants him. For them to be a solid team I would prefer him be on the block.
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Post by truecrimson on Nov 23, 2019 3:22:36 GMT -5
I was there. I knew about Parrot and Baldridge. I was surprised that Willard only had 8 kids, did not know about the injury. Also surprised that none of the other 6 had elevated their game significantly. If your coach is worth his salt he will have Baldridge take one for the team and play in the post. it might not be up to baldridge to take one for the team. It might just be that's where the coach wants him. For them to be a solid team I would prefer him be on the block. As I said earlier, only two kids i would have down low, the baldridge kid and the pinkston kid. I know the baldridge kid has a decent outside shot but a 6’8” kid playing up top?
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Post by xlegend on Nov 23, 2019 4:17:08 GMT -5
Willard coach does a good job structurally with his youth program and getting kids involved. However, he has no clue how to develop kids from a coaching standpoint. Case in point(s), why doesn't Myles have a decent jump shot after 2.5 years with the Coach? why doesn't Baldridge have big time power moves inside after 2.5 years with the Coach? Why has Paxton become stagnant and appears hesitant to do anything when he gets the ball? Another year and Cooper and Baldridge will be gone, Coach will be 3 years into it, the talented Fresman class (back then) will now be seniors. That will be good time to reassess the situation. Is it true they made cuts this year? Do they have that many kids where they can cut kids now? that's hitting the nail on the head c5. You might get a lot of backlash for that statement but the truth is the truth. It's early but I think he will reevaluate his linup and make some changes. Let's give it a few games and we'll go from there
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Post by buckeyekid on Nov 23, 2019 7:00:32 GMT -5
It's early guys. Remember the opener vs Upper last year. Then fast forward to the District Finals. We'll be ok. Give the Coaches a chance to figure it out. Give the players a chance to get into basketball mode after several practices and some games. Should be fun to watch the team evolve.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 23, 2019 13:33:27 GMT -5
Info for Willard fans after seeing Upper and Huron at Ontario this morning. It's early....but Willard should beat Upper easily. They're not close to what they've been the past few years. I can't speak for OH or Margaretta, but unless Willard improves Huron will finish ahead of them in the Bay. They're much better than the last couple of years. They have a lot of size, a good bench, play good defense, are a really good rebounding team and have several good 3-point shooters. JMHO
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Post by xlegend on Nov 23, 2019 14:12:23 GMT -5
Info for Willard fans after seeing Upper and Huron at Ontario this morning. It's early....but Willard should beat Upper easily. They're not close to what they've been the past few years. I can't speak for OH or Margaretta, but unless Willard improves Huron will finish ahead of them in the Bay. They're much better than the last couple of years. They have a lot of size, a good bench, play good defense, are a really good rebounding team and have several good 3-point shooters. JMHO thanx for the info.we scrimmaged colonel Crawford and Western reserve today. We looked very sharp against Crawford in the first quarter.best them 23 -16 in which Cooper didn't score and baldridge only had 2 points. The ball was moving and we were finding the open man and knocking down shots. Adelman played awesome Paxton played really well also. Knocking down some threes and playing tough defense speaking of defense...we looked a lot better today. Kids were communicating and not getting beat off the dribble .but after that out offense didn't look so sharp in which 12 points was the highest points we scored in a quarter. But we were mixing kids in out a lot after that overall wasn't to bad.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 23, 2019 16:02:56 GMT -5
How did Western Reserve look?
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Post by xlegend on Nov 23, 2019 18:27:09 GMT -5
How did Western Reserve look? Western CAN shoot the three. Wow. They didn't look like much warming up which I never judge a book by its cover. They ran some nice stuff on offense.not a lot of size but the ball doesn't stick and if their open behind the arc they let it fly.we tied one quarter and lost 2 quarters but after the first quarter we were trying different lineups.they will give South Central a run for their money.
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Post by xlegend on Nov 26, 2019 22:07:49 GMT -5
Tomorrow night starts what hopefully is a great season for the flashes. Starting linup is Cooper at the point. Skeeter at the two trey at the three. Myles at the 4 and Dawson at the five adelmen will be first of the bench. Long court so I hope our conditioning holds up.I like the flashes of course.go flashes
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Post by Kokomo on Nov 27, 2019 8:31:57 GMT -5
Relax fans. Let’s first let the season begin before we start bashing coaching. Coach Bedingfield has done a tremendous job w turning around the program. And for those who don’t know about building a successful program, you have to start with the 5th-8th grade levels. Those kids are the future. To walk into a system where kids are lazy. And turn it around is tough. A player has to be committed just as the coach. If a kid hasn’t played down low for 6+ years it will be tough to morph him into a dominant post player. Post players are the most important position at the D end. A lot of discipline to hedge ball screens on and off ball. They gotta communicate to everyone of cutters. And of course the physicality it demands. Kids have got to want to get better. I thought Baldridge done great at times protecting the rim. Especially the Vermilion game. He also is long and moves his feet very well vs smaller guards. So Defensively he’s interchangeable. We cannot put blame on coaching when players are not working in off season. But as I goes. Players win. Coaches lose. Good luck Flashes!!! Can’t wait to spend my weeks pay in Cleveland tonight. Lol.
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Post by jmorgret07 on Nov 27, 2019 18:19:08 GMT -5
Willard 21-19-9-12 - 61 Perkins 4-9-9-12 - 37
Willard (1-0): 27-60 FG, 5-16 FT, 2-12 3pt (Paxton, Cok), 53 rebounds (Baldridge 16), 9 turnovers. Scoring: Trey Paxton 1 0-0 3, Terry Baldridge 7 1-3 15, Myles Pinkston 3 2-5 8, Micah Dawson 5 0-0 10, Cooper Parrott 4 0-0 8, Austin Adelman 2 1-3 5, Jake Cok 2 1-2 6, Cole Weiss 1 0-3 2, Casey Sallee 1 0-0 2.
Perkins (0-1): 13-47 FG, 5-16 FT, 3-16 3pt (Siegel 2, Leffler), 26 rebounds (Voight 7), 11 turnovers. Scoring: Sam Siegel 7 2-4 18, Sam Oddo 0 0-0 0, Zach Voight 4 3-6 11, Drake Venerucci 0 0-0 0, Tyler Yingling 1 0-2 2, Dyson Leffler 1 0-0 3, Ryan Butler 0 0-2 0, Ben Schaefer 0 0-0 0, Gavin Hemphill 0 0-2 0.
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Post by xlegend on Nov 27, 2019 19:16:35 GMT -5
Willard 21-19-9-12 - 61 Perkins 4-9-9-12 - 37 Willard (1-0): 27-60 FG, 5-16 FT, 2-12 3pt (Paxton, Cok), 53 rebounds (Baldridge 16), 9 turnovers. Scoring: Trey Paxton 1 0-0 3, Terry Baldridge 7 1-3 15, Myles Pinkston 3 2-5 8, Micah Dawson 5 0-0 10, Cooper Parrott 4 0-0 8, Austin Adelman 2 1-3 5, Jake Cok 2 1-2 6, Cole Weiss 1 0-3 2, Casey Sallee 1 0-0 2. Perkins (0-1): 13-47 FG, 5-16 FT, 3-16 3pt (Siegel 2, Leffler), 26 rebounds (Voight 7), 11 turnovers. Scoring: Sam Siegel 7 2-4 18, Sam Oddo 0 0-0 0, Zach Voight 4 3-6 11, Drake Venerucci 0 0-0 0, Tyler Yingling 1 0-2 2, Dyson Leffler 1 0-0 3, Ryan Butler 0 0-2 0, Ben Schaefer 0 0-0 0, Gavin Hemphill 0 0-2 0. would you happen to know how many assists we had. Our guys were finding each other. Real nice to see.
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Post by jmorgret07 on Nov 28, 2019 10:16:34 GMT -5
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Post by ScarletFever on Nov 28, 2019 15:51:23 GMT -5
I think the best thing about this past FB season was that the kids stayed healthy..Correct?. Correct. The only thing. Basketball couldn’t arrive fast enough.
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Post by xlegend on Nov 29, 2019 0:48:04 GMT -5
Holy Poop Cooper Parrot played like bum bum DONT come on here and bash our boys. Not cool.he might not of had the game he wanted to have but he had 7 rebounds played hard and some nice assists. He'll be there when we need him the most.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 29, 2019 19:41:02 GMT -5
z, x is the thought police on threads that have to do with Willard basketball.
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Post by crimson5 on Nov 29, 2019 22:06:24 GMT -5
Willard 64 Upper 59
Anytime you can go into the Barn and beat a solid Upper team......its a good win! We got unexpected quality minutes tonite from Cok.... he played well. If he can give us that nite in and nite out, it makes a big difference. Nice job cokie!
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Post by ScarletFever on Nov 29, 2019 22:12:34 GMT -5
Zrjjkaav can enjoy that 8 month old extra salt this weekend eating leftovers
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