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Post by royalballdad on Jan 6, 2020 19:05:56 GMT -5
1. Upper Sandusky 9-1 big wins over Tiffin, Shelby, Col. Crawford and Lexington 2. Shelby 8-1 only loss is to Upper. 3. Huron 7-1 only loss to Willard. 4. Ontario 6-2 have won five in a row. 5. Lexington 6-3 6. Norwalk 5-3 7. Clear Fork 4-7 8. Mansfield Sr. 3-2 a little behind from the long football run 9. Edison 3-5 10. Galion 1-8 11. Vermillion 0-10
All of those Uppers wins listed were road wins. Can Upper keep winning on the road this Saturday at Wynford?
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Post by portwalk on Jan 6, 2020 19:29:39 GMT -5
1) Upper 2-8) Everyone besides CF, Edison, Galion & Vermillion who are a step below ALL others
Huron needs to beat someone before they are elevated
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Post by purefan on Jan 6, 2020 19:38:32 GMT -5
1. Upper Sandusky 9-1 big wins over Tiffin, Shelby, Col. Crawford and Lexington 2. Shelby 8-1 only loss is to Upper. 3. Huron 7-1 only loss to Willard. 4. Ontario 6-2 have won five in a row. 5. Lexington 6-3 6. Norwalk 5-3 7. Clear Fork 4-7 8. Mansfield Sr. 3-2 a little behind from the long football run 9. Edison 3-5 10. Galion 1-8 11. Vermillion 0-10 All of those Uppers wins listed were road wins. Can Upper keep winning on the road this Saturday at Wynford? The answer is yes. Upper by 15 +. Upper is team to beat in this district right now but recent history has shown they havn’t got it done come tournament time.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 6, 2020 21:00:51 GMT -5
1) Upper 2-8) Everyone besides CF, Edison, Galion & Vermillion who are a step below ALL others Huron needs to beat someone before they are elevated 2-7) Senior should be ahead of CF in 7th. I had not heard that Upper beat Lex. No wonder Dude has been no were to be seen since Saturday's games.
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Post by portwalk on Jan 6, 2020 21:34:09 GMT -5
1) Upper 2-8) Everyone besides CF, Edison, Galion & Vermillion who are a step below ALL others Huron needs to beat someone before they are elevated 2-7) Senior should be ahead of CF in 7th. I had not heard that Upper beat Lex. No wonder Dude has been no were to be seen since Saturday's games. Beat Lex by 15 in Lex (see video) www.facebook.com/oh.report/videos/576048153176161/
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Post by sportsvideo on Jan 6, 2020 23:45:50 GMT -5
1) Upper 2-8) Everyone besides CF, Edison, Galion & Vermillion who are a step below ALL others Huron needs to beat someone before they are elevated . Who is someone?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 7, 2020 0:47:59 GMT -5
One of the other top 6 teams in their District? (Senior not CF)
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Post by dude on Jan 7, 2020 7:59:20 GMT -5
1) Upper 2-8) Everyone besides CF, Edison, Galion & Vermillion who are a step below ALL others Huron needs to beat someone before they are elevated . Who is someone? Someone could be Bay Village, Oak Harbor and Willard. Games they went 2-1 in and their only loss being to the #5 team in the D3 state AP Poll by 3 points.
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Post by jmorgret07 on Jan 7, 2020 8:39:16 GMT -5
Huron needs to beat someone before they are elevated One could argue a win over what will likely be a 16-17 win Oak Harbor team on the road would do.
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Post by homewrecker on Jan 7, 2020 13:05:05 GMT -5
Favorites here have to be Ontario, followed by Upper, Shelby and Norwalk. Although Huron is getting some good press. I think it's wide open. Ontario lost to Shelby and Lex after the 6-4 Mott tore his ACL. They're making adjustments after losing their best rebounder and inside scorer. It'll depend on how his replacement, the 6-4 rail thin Soph Upchurch, develops as the season progresses. Shelby and Lex are both significantly better than expected and I like Huron. Don't discount Mansfield Senior, they've got more athletes than anyone in this District. Can Cam Todd be a significant leader on the basketball court like he was on the football field? Shelby probably has less talent than the past few years, why better this year ??
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Post by portwalk on Jan 7, 2020 13:11:37 GMT -5
Huron needs to beat someone before they are elevated One could argue a win over what will likely be a 16-17 win Oak Harbor team on the road would do. That is an OT win over an OH team still getting back from a long football season.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 7, 2020 14:14:38 GMT -5
I think it's wide open. Ontario lost to Shelby and Lex after the 6-4 Mott tore his ACL. They're making adjustments after losing their best rebounder and inside scorer. It'll depend on how his replacement, the 6-4 rail thin Soph Upchurch, develops as the season progresses. Shelby and Lex are both significantly better than expected and I like Huron. Don't discount Mansfield Senior, they've got more athletes than anyone in this District. Can Cam Todd be a significant leader on the basketball court like he was on the football field? Shelby probably has less talent than the past few years, why better this year ?? New head coach. Don't agree on less talent. They returned 4 lettermen. One of which is a 6-6 Jr. guard who's started since he was a Freshman.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 7, 2020 14:20:44 GMT -5
Someone could be Bay Village, Oak Harbor and Willard. Games they went 2-1 in and their only loss being to the #5 team in the D3 state AP Poll by 3 points. Bay Village is 4-5
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Post by dude on Jan 7, 2020 14:42:08 GMT -5
I think it's wide open. Ontario lost to Shelby and Lex after the 6-4 Mott tore his ACL. They're making adjustments after losing their best rebounder and inside scorer. It'll depend on how his replacement, the 6-4 rail thin Soph Upchurch, develops as the season progresses. Shelby and Lex are both significantly better than expected and I like Huron. Don't discount Mansfield Senior, they've got more athletes than anyone in this District. Can Cam Todd be a significant leader on the basketball court like he was on the football field? Shelby probably has less talent than the past few years, why better this year ?? Less talent? Pugh is arguably the best player Shelby has had since Grant Fenner in 2012-13. 4 or 5 of the guys playing this year saw the floor last season and now are a year older. Shelby's talent is good.
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Post by sportsvideo on Jan 7, 2020 15:01:41 GMT -5
One could argue a win over what will likely be a 16-17 win Oak Harbor team on the road would do. That is an OT win over an OH team still getting back from a long football season. fair enough..and we probably don't face another team to elevate us until oak harbor and Willard come to our place.. unless st paul or western on your radar are somebody?
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Post by homewrecker on Jan 7, 2020 16:14:41 GMT -5
Shelby probably has less talent than the past few years, why better this year ?? Less talent? Pugh is arguably the best player Shelby has had since Grant Fenner in 2012-13. 4 or 5 of the guys playing this year saw the floor last season and now are a year older. Shelby's talent is good. I am not discrediting Pugh he was there last year (on a team with more talent around him, but that team was not as good). is it coaching ?? Again Pugh is a great player Lance is pretty good as well but both were there last year.
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Post by homewrecker on Jan 7, 2020 16:26:36 GMT -5
Shelby probably has less talent than the past few years, why better this year ?? Less talent? Pugh is arguably the best player Shelby has had since Grant Fenner in 2012-13. 4 or 5 of the guys playing this year saw the floor last season and now are a year older. Shelby's talent is good. You probably have to go back farther, more like 07 Chris Dudics
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Post by bballguy on Jan 7, 2020 16:52:31 GMT -5
1. Upper Sandusky 9-1 big wins over Tiffin, Shelby, Col. Crawford and Lexington 2. Shelby 8-1 only loss is to Upper. 3. Huron 7-1 only loss to Willard. 4. Ontario 6-2 have won five in a row. 5. Lexington 6-3 6. Norwalk 5-3 7. Clear Fork 4-7 8. Mansfield Sr. 3-2 a little behind from the long football run 9. Edison 3-5 10. Galion 1-8 11. Vermillion 0-10 All of those Uppers wins listed were road wins. Can Upper keep winning on the road this Saturday at Wynford? The answer is yes. Upper by 15 +. Upper is team to beat in this district right now but recent history has shown they havn’t got it done come tournament time.
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Post by dude on Jan 7, 2020 21:07:15 GMT -5
Less talent? Pugh is arguably the best player Shelby has had since Grant Fenner in 2012-13. 4 or 5 of the guys playing this year saw the floor last season and now are a year older. Shelby's talent is good. I am not discrediting Pugh he was there last year (on a team with more talent around him, but that team was not as good). is it coaching ?? Again Pugh is a great player Lance is pretty good as well but both were there last year. Sometimes removing a a"good player" can make a team better. When I saw last year's team play, there were to many guys thinking they were the best player. That can hurt a team.
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Post by dude on Jan 7, 2020 21:07:58 GMT -5
Less talent? Pugh is arguably the best player Shelby has had since Grant Fenner in 2012-13. 4 or 5 of the guys playing this year saw the floor last season and now are a year older. Shelby's talent is good. You probably have to go back farther, more like 07 Chris Dudics Dudics did not play in the "past few years."
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Post by smitty1974 on Jan 10, 2020 0:13:26 GMT -5
i hate competative balance especially edison.without cb we would be at 199 and division 3.edison does not belong in this sectional district with shelby,upper sandusky,mansfield sr,norwalk,ontario,huron,lexington and clear fork.it would be total blowouts.and after being held to 30 and blown out by st.paul and in the 30s in a loss to winless port clinton.i doubt the way we are scoring that we can beat galion and vermilion. so oshaa should move edison back to d-3 for 2020-2021 season.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 10, 2020 0:27:40 GMT -5
SO....every school that can't win a Sectional game should be moved down a Division the next year? I doubt Edison would win a game in the DIII Sectional, but they might lose a close game. Think about this Smitty. If not for the players that caused Edison to be moved up a Division, they would be losing by more points.
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Post by sportsvideo on Jan 10, 2020 10:12:25 GMT -5
i hate competative balance especially edison.without cb we would be at 199 and division 3.edison does not belong in this sectional district with shelby,upper sandusky,mansfield sr,norwalk,ontario,huron,lexington and clear fork.it would be total blowouts.and after being held to 30 and blown out by st.paul and in the 30s in a loss to winless port clinton.i doubt the way we are scoring that we can beat galion and vermilion. so oshaa should move edison back to d-3 for 2020-2021 season. this very thing is the problem i have with edison , and i don't have alot of problems with them lol just this one is a stickler... when its going well for them, they don't care, the least bit of adversity and they want cut some slack.. so if you're in division 3 you face willard...because you're likely going to be last seed or close to it. we all play by the same rules... so gonna have to deal with it. by the way..if we don't use CB numbers,, the cut off likely is around 190 or so..you'd still be D-2
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Post by edchambers on Jan 10, 2020 12:07:49 GMT -5
i hate competative balance especially edison.without cb we would be at 199 and division 3.edison does not belong in this sectional district with shelby,upper sandusky,mansfield sr,norwalk,ontario,huron,lexington and clear fork.it would be total blowouts.and after being held to 30 and blown out by st.paul and in the 30s in a loss to winless port clinton.i doubt the way we are scoring that we can beat galion and vermilion. so oshaa should move edison back to d-3 for 2020-2021 season. I hate to break the bad news to you, but they would've been D2 this year without competitive balance.
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Post by juju on Jan 10, 2020 14:53:11 GMT -5
That is an OT win over an OH team still getting back from a long football season. fair enough..and we probably don't face another team to elevate us until oak harbor and Willard come to our place.. unless st paul or western on your radar are somebody? I do agree, western and Sp even tho they are lower divisions would be quaintly wins for Huron, as St. Paul is #1 in the AP poll for D4
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Post by sportsvideo on Jan 10, 2020 21:19:15 GMT -5
fair enough..and we probably don't face another team to elevate us until oak harbor and Willard come to our place.. unless st paul or western on your radar are somebody? I do agree, western and Sp even tho they are lower divisions would be quaintly wins for Huron, as St. Paul is #1 in the AP poll for D4 love st paul, as a school and athletically... and you can take those polls for what its worth.. (next to nothing) st paul probably isn't the best team in their district let alone the state... they're very good division 4 team... but not #1.
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Post by smitty1974 on Jan 10, 2020 21:27:41 GMT -5
can you tell me why there is no cb in wrestling and edison is ranked #2 in d-3 and yet cb in basketball and we are duing terribleall 3 wins early in the season and now total blowouts.is edison injury riddled or are they have disclipine problems. back in my days back in 1973,only 3-16 edison didnt get blown like this or lose to a winless team.as far as district i just saw lexington at mansfield sr at half it was 18-16 mansfield sr but lexington won 41-39 despite only put up 13 shots in the first half.mansfield was scrappy but not like of the tyger teams of the past and lexington is average at best game was on wmfd tv 68 mansfield.
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Post by sportsvideo on Jan 10, 2020 21:30:34 GMT -5
can you tell me why there is no cb in wrestling and edison is ranked #2 in d-3 and yet cb in basketball and we are duing terribleall 3 wins early in the season and now total blowouts.is edison injury riddled or are they have disclipine problems. back in my days back in 1973,only 3-16 edison didnt get blown like this or lose to a winless team.as far as district i just saw lexington at mansfield sr at half it was 18-16 mansfield sr but lexington won 41-39 despite only put up 13 shots in the first half.mansfield was scrappy but not like of the tyger teams of the past and lexington is average at best game was on wmfd tv 68 mansfield. because wrestling only has 400+ total schools which is 1/2 of what the other sports that use CB has ... can't speak for all of edison's bball games this season..but from what i saw tonight... most of the ones on varsity should be on JV level.. its not a cut against them,, just what it looks like.. i heard they have 3 seniors.. i dont know the break down . but everybody goes through that one or two years where it sucks... and it wouldnt matter what division they played in...quality teams in each division in this part of the state.
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Post by smitty1974 on Jan 10, 2020 21:54:21 GMT -5
my rankings are 1.upper sandusky 2.shelby 3.ontario-i put them ahead of huron because of coach balough getting the most out of his team even without chance mott. 4.huron tied for 5. lexington and mansfield sr. saw that game on channel 68.was not impressed with either team. 7.norwalk 8.clear fork 9.galion 10.vermilion 11.edison-after blowout losses to st.paul and huron tonight and a bad loss at home to previous winless port clinton last week,edison might not win a game the rest of season.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 10, 2020 22:10:04 GMT -5
can you tell me why there is no cb in wrestling and edison is ranked #2 in d-3 and yet cb in basketball and we are duing terribleall 3 wins early in the season and now total blowouts.is edison injury riddled or are they have disclipine problems. back in my days back in 1973,only 3-16 edison didnt get blown like this or lose to a winless team.as far as district i just saw lexington at mansfield sr at half it was 18-16 mansfield sr but lexington won 41-39 despite only put up 13 shots in the first half.mansfield was scrappy but not like of the tyger teams of the past and lexington is average at best game was on wmfd tv 68 mansfield. As far as Competitive Balance and wrestling? A very simple answer to a very simple question. The OHSAA does not consider wrestling a "team" sport, like they do basketball, football, volleyball and soccer. The only sports the OHSAA uses the CB Formula in. The CB Formula was created to ONLY help "team" sports. Mansfield Senior is severely offensively challenged this year. Senior took TWENTY more shots than Lex and lost by 2. All Senior has is their aggressive defense and that sent Lex to the line for 17 foul shots.
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