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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 29, 2020 1:05:38 GMT -5
"Insight" Don't know, but it looked like Norwalk might have set a FG made % record. Gehlhausen(sp) might have had a career night, 23 points on 6 of 6 3-pointers made. He looked like the best PG in North Central Ohio not named Tahj. Norwalk's 3 pointers were falling, Ontario's weren't. Shaver had 0 points at halftime. Ontario's 150-160# inside players were no match for Norwalk's 200#+ players. They had their way scoring on the block and rebounding. Last year Ontario had 3 200#+ players to match up, they all graduated. I knew that was going to be an issue for Ontario this year against teams like Lex and Norwalk. Norwalk's defense much more physical than Ontario's I think Steve likes to coach this team way more than last year's. Last year's games were simple. When Norwalk needed a basket, it was clear out and let Harraway go to work. This year Steve calls a set play every trip down the court and the team executes them very well. It appears Norwalk football players have rounded into basketball form. How in the heck did South Central beat Norwalk by 17?? if you haven’t seen south central play you need to. Plus I think Norwalk’s coach admitted that he screws up by trying to trap Blaire. That game got away from Norwalk in The second half. Saw St Paul beat South Central. Saw St. Joe beat St. Paul. Saw Lucas stomp South Central. Saw Lucas squeak by Ontario.
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Post by portwalk on Jan 29, 2020 11:37:27 GMT -5
I agree with both WF and SV a little bit. South Central clearly was a bad matchup and as Gray indicated it wasn’t his finest hour. Also I think that SC is pretty good as is the Firelands. Better than I have EVER seen in 25 plus years in the area...
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Post by portwalk on Jan 29, 2020 11:39:29 GMT -5
I think getting in the Top 4 is key and if you ask me today I like Lex to get out... gonna be fun 5 teams will get byes to Sectional Finals. Some coaches do prefer to play over taking a bye so it could lead to some good games but I have seen most of these teams and I doubt Lex will be the favorite here. Lex will not be the favorite but don’t underestimate history
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Post by juju on Jan 29, 2020 12:31:09 GMT -5
if you haven’t seen south central play you need to. Plus I think Norwalk’s coach admitted that he screws up by trying to trap Blaire. That game got away from Norwalk in The second half. Saw St Paul beat South Central. Saw St. Joe beat St. Paul. Saw Lucas stomp South Central. Saw Lucas squeak by Ontario. St. Paul best St. Joe 66-62 in OT
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Post by dude on Jan 29, 2020 13:19:42 GMT -5
5 teams will get byes to Sectional Finals. Some coaches do prefer to play over taking a bye so it could lead to some good games but I have seen most of these teams and I doubt Lex will be the favorite here. Lex will not be the favorite but don’t underestimate history History would likely show that Lex wins the district when they are in the discussion of being the favorite. Not the case this season.
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Post by maplecityjake on Jan 29, 2020 14:13:34 GMT -5
Correction, Gehlhausen nailed 7 3s.
And, our players enjoy the weight room.
As far as SC, I'm in agreement about Firelands Conference. It's been a solid year on Gridiron and now Hardwood. Best I've seen in awhile.
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Post by dude on Jan 29, 2020 14:48:27 GMT -5
Correction, Gehlhausen nailed 7 3s. And, our players enjoy the weight room. As far as SC, I'm in agreement about Firelands Conference. It's been a solid year on Gridiron and now Hardwood. Best I've seen in awhile. I saw the stats for 3s in the game were Norwalk 8 and Ontario made 5. Not a huge difference there and definitely not enough to give a 20 point final. The fourth quarter was bad for Ontario even though both teams had a similar number of chances. Ontario went 1/6 from the 3 and 2/6 from 2 while Norwalk went 2/2 and 6/10
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Post by portwalk on Jan 29, 2020 20:26:47 GMT -5
Norwalk travels to Ontario tonight good chance for the Warriors to move up the pecking order in this District... Tough mid week gig for the Truckers I see this as a chance for Norwalk to move up in the order. At home, Ontario should be favored by 16 this in this one. Only missed by 36 points on this one 😵
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 29, 2020 20:34:39 GMT -5
Correction, Gehlhausen nailed 7 3s. And, our players enjoy the weight room. As far as SC, I'm in agreement about Firelands Conference. It's been a solid year on Gridiron and now Hardwood. Best I've seen in awhile. I saw the stats for 3s in the game were Norwalk 8 and Ontario made 5. Not a huge difference there and definitely not enough to give a 20 point final. The fourth quarter was bad for Ontario even though both teams had a similar number of chances. Ontario went 1/6 from the 3 and 2/6 from 2 while Norwalk went 2/2 and 6/10 9 more points than your opponent isn't a "huge difference"?? A shooting % difference of 67% vs 25% is a HUGE difference.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 29, 2020 20:37:15 GMT -5
Correction, Gehlhausen nailed 7 3s. And, our players enjoy the weight room. As far as SC, I'm in agreement about Firelands Conference. It's been a solid year on Gridiron and now Hardwood. Best I've seen in awhile. An even bigger career game. You better enjoy the weight room if you're a football player.
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Post by dude on Jan 29, 2020 22:21:44 GMT -5
I see this as a chance for Norwalk to move up in the order. At home, Ontario should be favored by 16 this in this one. Only missed by 36 points on this one 😵 I myself did not miss by anything as I said Ontario should be favored but do not mistake that as a prediction on the game score. I said they should be favored and the point was they were not.
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Post by portwalk on Jan 30, 2020 12:37:05 GMT -5
Lex will not be the favorite but don’t underestimate history History would likely show that Lex wins the district when they are in the discussion of being the favorite. Not the case this season. My reference to history was more pointed towards folks like Upper who has not and will not play a meaningful game before the tournament since beating Lex on 1/4. How does beating up on the SE, BC and Bucyrus’s of the world for basically 2 months prepare them for a tournament where they have failed to advance to Regionals since Diebler. Having a great record has got them Nothing for more than a decade. They appeared after wins over Lex and Shelby to be rolling do they maintain that???
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Post by dude on Jan 30, 2020 12:59:18 GMT -5
History would likely show that Lex wins the district when they are in the discussion of being the favorite. Not the case this season. My reference to history was more pointed towards folks like Upper who has not and will not play a meaningful game before the tournament since beating Lex on 1/4. How does beating up on the SE, BC and Bucyrus’s of the world for basically 2 months prepare them for a tournament where they have failed to advance to Regionals since Diebler. Having a great record has got them Nothing for more than a decade. They appeared after wins over Lex and Shelby to be rolling do they maintain that??? Could it be said that their style of play in some way eliminates the need for strong competition to continue to improve. When a team plays fast and lose and can score as quick as they can, learning from situations and or matchups can be less meaningful. On their roster they all at times guard everyone and play inside and out using the full 90 feet to get any advantage. Playing together is their way of preparing for future games. Now after saying that, they could lose the first game of tournament just like anyone else.
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Post by portwalk on Jan 30, 2020 22:00:09 GMT -5
Norwalk beats Vermillion 52-30 this has to be what it feels like to be Upper in the N10...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2020 22:49:15 GMT -5
Norwalk beats Vermillion 52-30 this has to be what it feels like to be Upper in the N10... We get it. You think the N-10 sucks
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Post by dude on Jan 30, 2020 23:03:16 GMT -5
Norwalk beats Vermillion 52-30 this has to be what it feels like to be Upper in the N10... The N10 is far better than the team that Norwalk played.
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Post by portwalk on Jan 31, 2020 12:44:46 GMT -5
Norwalk beats Vermillion 52-30 this has to be what it feels like to be Upper in the N10... The N10 is far better than the team that Norwalk played. Come on now Bucyrus, SE, BC even Vermilion wins some games in the N10
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Post by maplecityjake on Jan 31, 2020 13:18:28 GMT -5
In fairness to Vermilion, the N10 schools haven't played the likes of Elyria and Lorain, whom have over 900 boys.
At any rate, N10 pretty much sucks, but this year, so does Lake. And, when Ashland and Mansfield are down, I'll include OCC. So, my point is it seems anyone in this District that's "competitive" had a shot to win this puppy.
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Post by portwalk on Jan 31, 2020 14:49:52 GMT -5
In fairness to Vermilion, the N10 schools haven't played the likes of Elyria and Lorain, whom have over 900 boys. At any rate, N10 pretty much sucks, but this year, so does Lake. And, when Ashland and Mansfield are down, I'll include OCC. So, my point is it seems anyone in this District that's "competitive" had a shot to win this puppy. In all honesty if Upper fails to win this District it has to be considered a pretty large failure on their part. They have beat Lex and Shelby by double digits and other than vs Huron should be a significant favorite. However I can pull up threads from this time of year over the past nearly a decade where the same comments were made and ZERO District titles... should be fun
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Post by crimson5 on Jan 31, 2020 15:45:51 GMT -5
In fairness to Vermilion, the N10 schools haven't played the likes of Elyria and Lorain, whom have over 900 boys. At any rate, N10 pretty much sucks, but this year, so does Lake. And, when Ashland and Mansfield are down, I'll include OCC. So, my point is it seems anyone in this District that's "competitive" had a shot to win this puppy. In all honesty if Upper fails to win this District it has to be considered a pretty large failure on their part. They have beat Lex and Shelby by double digits and other than vs Huron should be a significant favorite. However I can pull up threads from this time of year over the past nearly a decade where the same comments were made and ZERO District titles... should be fun After seeing Shelby in person the other night, I gotta think they are a close 2nd. Upper beat Willard by 30 early in the season last year, and look what happened to Upper in the Tourney. My money is on Shelby. I thought Ontario would be right there, but that Norwalk game is very concerning.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 31, 2020 15:51:27 GMT -5
If Norwalk's PG plays like he did against Ontario, I'd pick them over any team in this District.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 31, 2020 15:53:31 GMT -5
The N10 is far better than the team that Norwalk played. Come on now Bucyrus, SE, BC even Vermilion wins some games in the N10 That would be the great exaggerator doing his thing again.
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Post by dude on Jan 31, 2020 22:23:22 GMT -5
In all honesty if Upper fails to win this District it has to be considered a pretty large failure on their part. They have beat Lex and Shelby by double digits and other than vs Huron should be a significant favorite. However I can pull up threads from this time of year over the past nearly a decade where the same comments were made and ZERO District titles... should be fun After seeing Shelby in person the other night, I gotta think they are a close 2nd. Upper beat Willard by 30 early in the season last year, and look what happened to Upper in the Tourney. My money is on Shelby. I thought Ontario would be right there, but that Norwalk game is very concerning. I'm pretty sure that Shelby lost to Ashland tonight. Giving Ashland their 6th win of the season.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 31, 2020 22:23:33 GMT -5
Lex will not be the favorite but don’t underestimate history History would likely show that Lex wins the district when they are in the discussion of being the favorite. Not the case this season. DUH!! That's usually the case with any team.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 31, 2020 22:24:59 GMT -5
After seeing Shelby in person the other night, I gotta think they are a close 2nd. Upper beat Willard by 30 early in the season last year, and look what happened to Upper in the Tourney. My money is on Shelby. I thought Ontario would be right there, but that Norwalk game is very concerning. I'm pretty sure that Shelby lost to Ashland tonight. Giving Ashland their 6th win of the season. Still in a funk over the Willard debacle.
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Post by dude on Jan 31, 2020 22:25:38 GMT -5
And Mansfield beats Mount Vernon by 10. Ontario beats Galion by 14.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 31, 2020 22:28:31 GMT -5
Cheerleader for the OCC. I have no idea what a game between 2 DI teams has to do with the "Division II district at Mansfield Madison".
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Post by dude on Jan 31, 2020 23:48:11 GMT -5
So when it comes to the District seeding, tonight may drop Shelby in the minds of some, lift Mansfield for others and i'm unsure if beating Galion means anything.
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Post by crimson5 on Jan 31, 2020 23:57:47 GMT -5
After seeing Shelby in person the other night, I gotta think they are a close 2nd. Upper beat Willard by 30 early in the season last year, and look what happened to Upper in the Tourney. My money is on Shelby. I thought Ontario would be right there, but that Norwalk game is very concerning. I'm pretty sure that Shelby lost to Ashland tonight. Giving Ashland their 6th win of the season. WOW!
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Post by xlegend on Feb 1, 2020 0:00:35 GMT -5
I believe I'm going with upper.shelby has a nice team but play with to much emotion.not being able to hold a 23 point lead will come back to haunt them again in tourney. I don't think their coach can be calm when there is chaos on the court.
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