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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 17, 2022 19:36:24 GMT -5
What you are really asking is can this be your excuse for hiring a bad basketball coach. "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder"
Says John Merrick
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Post by dude on Mar 18, 2022 7:39:00 GMT -5
Heard former Shelby Coach Will has been offered the Lex job. Can anyone confirm It is true he was offered. However, he respectfully declined. I'm hearing they have started the interview process. The timeframe to collect applications was set to give interested parties plenty of time since the previous staff was still running out of season events to keep the program moving forward. I heard that one of the Lexington administrators knows Will from a previous job. They spoke unofficially of course. It is possible that similar conversations were also had with a former Wynford coach, former Galion coach and a former Madison coach.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2022 12:01:00 GMT -5
It is true he was offered. However, he respectfully declined. I'm hearing they have started the interview process. The timeframe to collect applications was set to give interested parties plenty of time since the previous staff was still running out of season events to keep the program moving forward. I heard that one of the Lexington administrators knows Will from a previous job. They spoke unofficially of course. It is possible that similar conversations were also had with a former Wynford coach, former Galion coach and a former Madison coach. right, but he still interviewed for the position, then once offered turned it down. That is factual. Now they might start the interview process with other candidates or who knows what they are doing. But from the sounds of your post, it doesn't sound like a place an experienced coach would want to go if they can't even get a formal process to hire a new coach together.
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Post by dude on Mar 18, 2022 15:45:27 GMT -5
I'm hearing they have started the interview process. The timeframe to collect applications was set to give interested parties plenty of time since the previous staff was still running out of season events to keep the program moving forward. I heard that one of the Lexington administrators knows Will from a previous job. They spoke unofficially of course. It is possible that similar conversations were also had with a former Wynford coach, former Galion coach and a former Madison coach. right, but he still interviewed for the position, then once offered turned it down. That is factual. Now they might start the interview process with other candidates or who knows what they are doing. But from the sounds of your post, it doesn't sound like a place an experienced coach would want to go if they can't even get a formal process to hire a new coach together. I'm not sure what you misunderstood but the interview process begun after the date passed for the application process was completed. If you are certain he was interviewed, it was after application deadline ended. Seems like standard practice to me.
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Post by fanofthegame on Mar 18, 2022 19:57:11 GMT -5
Even if that’s not how it went down what would be wrong with knowing a guy with head coaching experience and having a meeting with him. The meeting goes well and you throw an offer his way. If it works out you save yourself the headache of reviewing a bunch of wannabe résumés. If it doesn’t you start the usual process. I’m not saying that’s how it went down. I have no inside information. Would that be a big deal? It’s not like there is a large pool of qualified people beating down anyone’s door.
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Post by dude on Mar 18, 2022 20:29:12 GMT -5
Even if that’s not how it went down what would be wrong with knowing a guy with head coaching experience and having a meeting with him. The meeting goes well and you throw an offer his way. If it works out you save yourself the headache of reviewing a bunch of wannabe résumés. If it doesn’t you start the usual process. I’m not saying that’s how it went down. I have no inside information. Would that be a big deal? It’s not like there is a large pool of qualified people beating down anyone’s door. I was just letting you guys know the application period is closed and the interviews have begun. The fact that a former head coach was included in that is no big deal.
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Post by dude on Mar 29, 2022 8:50:13 GMT -5
Lexington will hire a former Madison assistant, Andrew Saris, as there new Head Football Coach.
I am surprised the Madison football program is a place schools would be looking to hire from.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 29, 2022 8:58:52 GMT -5
Is Valentine bringing in a lot of his own assistants making Saris available? Was Lex looking for Madison assistants to hire OR was Saris just the best applicant?
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Post by foamcity on Mar 31, 2022 9:40:02 GMT -5
What a joke of a hire for Lexington. Was this guy even a coordinator? If so, Madison has been trash for years. Stupka at CF now this bozo at Lex. What a slap in the face to Jeff Soliday.
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Post by dude on Mar 31, 2022 10:13:06 GMT -5
What a joke of a hire for Lexington. Was this guy even a coordinator? If so, Madison has been trash for years. Stupka at CF now this bozo at Lex. What a slap in the face to Jeff Soliday. I read in an article that the new Lex coach was on staff when the Lexington principal was the coach at Madison. Madison basketball and football have been trash for years and now they have unloaded their coaches off to other area schools. I've seen Jeff Soliday in action and would think he could get a shot. If he applied at Lex, since he worked for Gearhart and with Masi on the staff, they were the ones that shot him down. Time will tell if this is another poor hire for Lexington. The current AD does not have a good track record. Hired Gearhardt football, 1-year gone. Hired Weaver girls basketball, 1-year gone.
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Post by sportsfan15 on Mar 31, 2022 12:18:42 GMT -5
What a joke of a hire for Lexington. Was this guy even a coordinator? If so, Madison has been trash for years. Stupka at CF now this bozo at Lex. What a slap in the face to Jeff Soliday. To my knowledge he was never a coordinator at Madison. Rich football background carries some weight. However, he was on the staff of some really bad teams at Madison that made ZERO adjustments over the course of several seasons.
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Post by dude on Mar 31, 2022 12:41:32 GMT -5
What a joke of a hire for Lexington. Was this guy even a coordinator? If so, Madison has been trash for years. Stupka at CF now this bozo at Lex. What a slap in the face to Jeff Soliday. To my knowledge he was never a coordinator at Madison. Rich football background carries some weight. However, he was on the staff of some really bad teams at Madison that made ZERO adjustments over the course of several seasons. I have not heard of his "rich football background"? Can you expand on that a little?
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Post by foamcity on Mar 31, 2022 12:45:28 GMT -5
I am just curious what Rich football background are you talking about-Smithville? I am curious what was Conway's record at Madison? What about the Lexington Principal's record at Mansfield and Madison?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2022 13:03:48 GMT -5
I am just curious what Rich football background are you talking about-Smithville? I am curious what was Conway's record at Madison? What about the Lexington Principal's record at Mansfield and Madison? surprised stupka went to CF, I don't know if Carroll was desperate or what. Smithville used to be a very very good program when Saris was there. Thats about all I can think of for the rich football background comment. They must have had to feel like they needed to settle when Will teased them and left them hot and bothered.
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Post by sportsfan15 on Mar 31, 2022 13:29:08 GMT -5
I am just curious what Rich football background are you talking about-Smithville? I am curious what was Conway's record at Madison? What about the Lexington Principal's record at Mansfield and Madison? surprised stupka went to CF, I don't know if Carroll was desperate or what. Smithville used to be a very very good program when Saris was there. Thats about all I can think of for the rich football background comment. They must have had to feel like they needed to settle when Will teased them and left them hot and bothered. This was what I was referencing along with his dads coaching background
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Post by foamcity on Mar 31, 2022 13:42:35 GMT -5
I know the admin is inept, but I would be surprised if they hired this guy based on the fact that he went to Smithville. Lets face it, they hired him because he is in the know with the Lexington principal.
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Post by dude on Mar 31, 2022 21:11:44 GMT -5
surprised stupka went to CF, I don't know if Carroll was desperate or what. Smithville used to be a very very good program when Saris was there. Thats about all I can think of for the rich football background comment. They must have had to feel like they needed to settle when Will teased them and left them hot and bothered. This was what I was referencing along with his dads coaching background You feel he received a head coaching job at Lexington because his high school team was good and his dad was a good coach. Interesting.
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Post by sportsfan15 on Apr 1, 2022 7:24:57 GMT -5
This was what I was referencing along with his dads coaching background You feel he received a head coaching job at Lexington because his high school team was good and his dad was a good coach. Interesting. I do not feel that is why he got the job. Just an observation that he has been around the game from an early age and around a successful program at one point in time. If you want my belief on why they hired him, I would say I believe he got the job bc of his relationship with Masi. Which is comical considering his prominence for running programs into the dirt, or never improving programs.
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Post by fanofthegame on Apr 1, 2022 9:42:43 GMT -5
Or he could be the best they had apply. A few years ago Shelby had to hire someone with JV coaching experience because he was about the only choice. It was a bad two years.
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Post by richrod on Apr 1, 2022 10:06:10 GMT -5
Or he could be the best they had apply. A few years ago Shelby had to hire someone with JV coaching experience because he was about the only choice. It was a bad two years. its best to just pretend those years didn't exist haha, didn't he end up being the choice because at least one or maybe two guys turned it down?
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Post by richrod on Apr 1, 2022 10:08:13 GMT -5
You feel he received a head coaching job at Lexington because his high school team was good and his dad was a good coach. Interesting. I do not feel that is why he got the job. Just an observation that he has been around the game from an early age and around a successful program at one point in time. If you want my belief on why they hired him, I would say I believe he got the job bc of his relationship with Masi. Which is comical considering his prominence for running programs into the dirt, or never improving programs. I think if he can surround himself with great assistants then there will be a chance for success. I really think that along with how much support he gets from the school will be two huge factors into how successful Saris will be. Best of luck to the young man.
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Post by sportsfan15 on Apr 1, 2022 10:24:02 GMT -5
I do not feel that is why he got the job. Just an observation that he has been around the game from an early age and around a successful program at one point in time. If you want my belief on why they hired him, I would say I believe he got the job bc of his relationship with Masi. Which is comical considering his prominence for running programs into the dirt, or never improving programs. I think if he can surround himself with great assistants then there will be a chance for success. I really think that along with how much support he gets from the school will be two huge factors into how successful Saris will be. Best of luck to the young man. Getting the right people in place is important in any program. Just wonder how much say Masi had in the process. As a committee member it would be difficult to support the opinion of a 14 year coaching veteran with a career winning percentage of 36.4%. That said, I do wish Saris luck for the sake of North Central Ohio football. Other than generational years of talent in districts, the level of football is declining in the area.
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Post by dude on Apr 1, 2022 10:43:29 GMT -5
I think if he can surround himself with great assistants then there will be a chance for success. I really think that along with how much support he gets from the school will be two huge factors into how successful Saris will be. Best of luck to the young man. Getting the right people in place is important in any program. Just wonder how much say Masi had in the process. As a committee member it would be difficult to support the opinion of a 14 year coaching veteran with a career winning percentage of 36.4%. That said, I do wish Saris luck for the sake of North Central Ohio football. Other than generational years of talent in districts, the level of football is declining in the area. I have heard talk that Masi was the selection committee member.
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Post by fanofthegame on Apr 1, 2022 11:17:02 GMT -5
Or he could be the best they had apply. A few years ago Shelby had to hire someone with JV coaching experience because he was about the only choice. It was a bad two years. its best to just pretend those years didn't exist haha, didn't he end up being the choice because at least one or maybe two guys turned it down? I have PTSD. My boys suffered the result of that hire. I’m thankful they had a college experience to wash the bad taste out of their mouths. IIRC someone turned down the offer, but in hindsight there was a better candidate that didn’t get offered.
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Post by dude on Apr 1, 2022 11:29:12 GMT -5
its best to just pretend those years didn't exist haha, didn't he end up being the choice because at least one or maybe two guys turned it down? I have PTSD. My boys suffered the result of that hire. I’m thankful they had a college experience to wash the bad taste out of their mouths. IIRC someone turned down the offer, but in hindsight there was a better candidate that didn’t get offered. That could be argued in this case with Lexington.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Apr 1, 2022 15:24:54 GMT -5
I do not feel that is why he got the job. Just an observation that he has been around the game from an early age and around a successful program at one point in time. If you want my belief on why they hired him, I would say I believe he got the job bc of his relationship with Masi. Which is comical considering his prominence for running programs into the dirt, or never improving programs. I think if he can surround himself with great assistants then there will be a chance for success. I really think that along with how much support he gets from the school will be two huge factors into how successful Saris will be. Best of luck to the young man. The "great assistants" would have to come from Madison. Quite sure Valentine brought some of his former assistants with him to Madison, freeing up Madison assistants.
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Post by dude on Apr 5, 2022 21:07:46 GMT -5
Current Enrollment numbers without the competitive balance equation
462 Mount Vernon (Mount Vernon) 426 Wooster (Wooster) 378 Ashland (Ashland) 344 Madison Comprehensive (Mansfield) 343 Mansfield Senior (Mansfield) 340 New Philadelphia (N Philadelphia) 301 Lexington (Lexington) 232 West Holmes (Millersburg)
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Post by gibby23 on Apr 6, 2022 7:31:44 GMT -5
Current Enrollment numbers without the competitive balance equation 462 Mount Vernon (Mount Vernon) 426 Wooster (Wooster) 378 Ashland (Ashland) 344 Madison Comprehensive (Mansfield) 343 Mansfield Senior (Mansfield) 340 New Philadelphia (N Philadelphia) 301 Lexington (Lexington) 232 West Holmes (Millersburg) Thanks Dude, Do you have any Enrollment Numbers for the SBC and the Firelands Conference?
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Post by dude on Apr 6, 2022 10:06:24 GMT -5
Thanks Dude, Do you have any Enrollment Numbers for the SBC and the Firelands Conference? Here are some. 346 Sandusky (Sandusky) 341 Norwalk (Norwalk) 334 Columbian (Tiffin) 268 Clyde (Clyde) 235 Bellevue (Bellevue) 233 Perkins (Sandusky) 228 Vermilion (Vermilion) 199 Willard (Willard) 194 Port Clinton (Port Clinton) 184 Oak Harbor (Oak Harbor) 157 Edison (Milan) 154 Huron (Huron) 134 Margaretta (Castalia)
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Post by maplecityjake on Apr 6, 2022 18:30:02 GMT -5
Current Enrollment numbers without the competitive balance equation 462 Mount Vernon (Mount Vernon) 426 Wooster (Wooster) 378 Ashland (Ashland) 344 Madison Comprehensive (Mansfield) 343 Mansfield Senior (Mansfield) 340 New Philadelphia (N Philadelphia) 301 Lexington (Lexington) 232 West Holmes (Millersburg) 230 boy difference between top-bottom with bottom being defending Champs and looking to repeat. And Bellevue/Clyde have a problem with Ross? GTFudgeOH
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