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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Feb 12, 2022 15:01:07 GMT -5
NOTE: This is not a thread for speculation and opinion as to who should join/leave the league or how the divisions/schedule should be arranged. Keep that stuff in the SBC Realignment thread. This is strictly about what the actual 2023 schedule will be.
According to Arbiter Live, here are the known games for the 2023 season, which will be the first year of the 5-5-8 SBC format.
If you have any other known games to add to this please do.
Going from this base of known games, it is possible to speculate what some of the missing matchups will be, in a Sudoku puzzle kind of way. I'll be attempting that in several posts to follow, anyone else can join in.
Week 1 - Aug 18-19
Bellevue @ Clyde Firelands @ Edison Huron @ St. Paul (Sat) Carey @ Hopewell-Loudon Gibsonburg @ Ottawa Hills Lakota @ Monroeville North Central @ Woodmore
Week 2 - Aug 25
Brookside @ Huron St. Paul @ Edison Calvert @ Monroeville Colonel Crawford @ Lakota Montpelier @ Woodmore SJCC @ Buckeye Central Willard @ Plymouth
Week 3 - Sep 1
Columbian @ River Valley Norwalk @ Toledo Rogers Shelby @ Bellevue Port Clinton @ Oak Harbor
Week 4 - Sep 8
Norwalk @ Bellevue Warren JFK @ Perkins Woodmore @ Willard
Week 5 - Sep 15
Bellevue @ Perkins Norwalk @ Edison Margaretta @ Woodmore SJCC @ Willard
Week 6 - Sep 22-23
Perkins @ Clyde Bellevue @ Edison Margaretta @ Hopewell-Loudon Calvert @ SJCC (Sat)
Week 7 - Sep 29-30
Edison @ Perkins Huron @ Bellevue Hopewell-Loudon @ Willard Woodmore @ SJCC (Sat)
Week 8 - Oct 6
Norwalk @ Perkins Calvert @ Woodmore SJCC @ Hopewell-Loudon
Week 9 - Oct 13-14
Hopewell-Loudon @ Woodmore Lakota @ SJCC (Sat)
Week 10 - Oct 20-21
Norwalk @ Clyde Huron @ Edison Vermilion @ Bellevue Calvert @ Hopewell-Loudon Margaretta @ Willard Gibsonburg @ SJCC (Sat)
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Feb 12, 2022 15:10:31 GMT -5
For Bellevue:
Week 1 - @ Clyde - not a fan of putting this in week 1, but I guess it works for Defiance/Napoleon Week 2 - Week 3 - Shelby Week 4 - Norwalk Week 5 - @ Perkins Week 6 - @ Edison Week 7 - Huron Week 8 - Week 9 - Week 10 - Vermilion
Port Clinton has to be either week 8 or 9. There will be a Lake Crossover in either week 8 or week 9 and it will be either Sandusky or Columbian, probably Sandusky if it's enrollment based. I would prefer to see whichever Lake team we don't play in that crossover be scheduled for week 2, but that could possibly be an away game at Canfield if that is a home and home contract. Canfield would seem like the kind of game you schedule as a one off, so here's hoping that we did that and are still playing both Sandusky and Columbian in '23.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Feb 12, 2022 15:21:08 GMT -5
Week 7 - Sep 29-30
if we know these 2 games...
Edison @ Perkins Huron @ Bellevue
...then the other Bay matchup this week has to be Port Clinton/Vermilion
Week 10 - Oct 20-21
if we know these 3 games...
Calvert @ Hopewell-Loudon Margaretta @ Willard Gibsonburg @ SJCC (Sat)
...then the other River matchup this week has to be Woodmore/Lakota
if we know these three games...
Norwalk @ Clyde Huron @ Edison Vermilion @ Bellevue
...then we know Port Clinton is playing their Lake crossover this week. We also know it won't be against Perkins because they have their bye/crossover against Edison in week 7. So it's either PC/TC and Sandusky/Perkins or PC/Sandsuky and TC/Perkins. My guess would be the first one.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Feb 12, 2022 15:56:30 GMT -5
In this post I'm not worrying about home or away, just who plays who. I've also been editing this as I go adding on new sections.
From the above new info, we can now figure out Woodmore's entire league slate :
Week 4 - Willard Week 5 - Margaretta Week 6 - Gibsonburg - process of elimination Week 7 - SJCC Week 8 - Calvert Week 9 - Hopewell-Loudon Week 10 - Lakota - known due to other week 10 games
Week 6 was:
Margaretta @ Hopewell-Loudon Calvert @ SJCC (Sat) add in Woodmore/Gibsonburg and that means the other matchup has to be... Willard/Lakota
So we can also fill in Willard's slate:
Week 4 - Woodmore Week 5 - SJCC Week 6 - Lakota Week 7 - Hopewell-Loudon Week 8 - Gibsonburg (can't be Calvert, they play Woodmore) Week 9 - Calvert - only option left Week 10 - Margaretta
that info can be used to figure out weeks 8 and 9
Week 8 - Oct 6 Calvert @ Woodmore SJCC @ Hopewell-Loudon Willard/Gibsonburg Margaretta/Lakota
Week 9 - Oct 13-14
Hopewell-Loudon @ Woodmore Lakota @ SJCC (Sat) Willard/Calvert Gibsonburg/Margaretta
Now we can fill in Margaretta:
Week 4 - SJCC Week 5 - Woodmore Week 6 - Hopewell-Loudon Week 7 - Calvert (can't be SJCC, they play Woodmore) Week 8 - Lakota - from above work Week 9 - Gibsonburg - from above work Week 10 - Willard
and that in can be used to fill in Week 7:
Hopewell-Loudon @ Willard Woodmore @ SJCC (Sat) Calvert/Margaretta Lakota/Gibsonburg
SJCC's slate is:
Week 4 - Margaretta - only one we didn't know already, should have done this one earlier Week 5 - Willard Week 6 - Calvert Week 7 - Woodmore Week 8 - Hopewell-Loudon Week 9 - Lakota Week 10 - Gibsonburg
then for the last 4, I got stuck trying to figure out the exact order for weeks 4 and 5, and typed this out:
Lakota's is:
Week 4 - Calvert or Hopewell-Loudon Week 5 - Calvert or Hopewell-Loudon Week 6 - Willard Week 7 - Gibsonburg Week 8 - Margaretta Week 9 - SJCC Week 10 - Woodmore
Gibsonburg's is:
Week 4 - Hopewell-Loudon or Calvert Week 5 - Hopewell-Loudon or Calvert Week 6 - Woodmore Week 7 - Lakota Week 8 - Willard Week 9 - Margaretta Week 10 - SJCC
Hopewell-Loudon's is
Week 4 - Lakota or Gibsonburg Week 5 - Lakota or Gibsonburg Week 6 - Margaretta Week 7 - Willard Week 8 - SJCC Week 9 - Woodmore Week 10 - Calvert
Calvert's is:
Week 4 - Gibsonburg or Lakota Week 5 - Gibsonburg or Lakota Week 6 - SJCC Week 7 - Margaretta Week 8 - Woodmore Week 9 - Willard Week 10 - Hopewell-Loudon
I then realized I could pair up the ones that matched each other to find the answers:
Lakota's is:
Week 4 - Calvert Week 5 - Hopewell-Loudon Week 6 - Willard Week 7 - Gibsonburg Week 8 - Margaretta Week 9 - SJCC Week 10 - Woodmore
Gibsonburg's is:
Week 4 - Hopewell-Loudon Week 5 - Calvert Week 6 - Woodmore Week 7 - Lakota Week 8 - Willard Week 9 - Margaretta Week 10 - SJCC
Hopewell-Loudon's is
Week 4 - Gibsonburg Week 5 - Lakota Week 6 - Margaretta Week 7 - Willard Week 8 - SJCC Week 9 - Woodmore Week 10 - Calvert
Calvert's is:
Week 4 - Lakota Week 5 - Gibsonburg Week 6 - SJCC Week 7 - Margaretta Week 8 - Woodmore Week 9 - Willard Week 10 - Hopewell-Loudon
and that finishes off the River
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Post by sbclives on Feb 12, 2022 17:11:22 GMT -5
I miss the days of an 8 school league.
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Post by maplecityjake on Feb 12, 2022 17:31:27 GMT -5
I realize the request for no speculation, but I'm certain Columbian will be at Ross, Week 1 2023
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2022 18:39:07 GMT -5
Brookside @ Huron ? I guess Norwalk does not wanna play anymore again.
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Post by sbclives on Feb 12, 2022 18:43:19 GMT -5
Brookside @ Huron ? I guess Norwalk does not wanna play anymore again. Will that be a crossover game?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 12, 2022 20:07:08 GMT -5
I miss the days of an 8 school league. I knew SBCers would
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Feb 12, 2022 21:09:12 GMT -5
I realize the request for no speculation, but I'm certain Columbian will be at Ross, Week 1 2023 Thanks. This is the type of information and speculation I'm looking for here. Things strictly related to who will play who during the 2023 season.
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Post by GHS 1999 on Feb 12, 2022 22:26:14 GMT -5
I was interested to see that River Valley and Columbian are playing week 3. That actually begins this fall.
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Post by clydesbcfan on Feb 15, 2022 13:00:16 GMT -5
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Post by maplecityjake on Feb 15, 2022 18:19:52 GMT -5
For Bellevue: Week 1 - @ Clyde - not a fan of putting this in week 1, but I guess it works for Defiance/Napoleon Week 2 - Week 3 - Shelby Week 4 - Norwalk Week 5 - @ Perkins Week 6 - @ Edison Week 7 - Huron Week 8 - Week 9 - Week 10 - Vermilion Port Clinton has to be either week 8 or 9. There will be a Lake Crossover in either week 8 or week 9 and it will be either Sandusky or Columbian, probably Sandusky if it's enrollment based. I would prefer to see whichever Lake team we don't play in that crossover be scheduled for week 2, but that could possibly be an away game at Canfield if that is a home and home contract. Canfield would seem like the kind of game you schedule as a one off, so here's hoping that we did that and are still playing both Sandusky and Columbian in '23. Week 8(H) Columbian, Week 9(A) Port Clinton
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Feb 15, 2022 21:28:28 GMT -5
Thanks! That's the kind of info I was hoping to see posted here.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Feb 15, 2022 21:39:47 GMT -5
For Bellevue: Week 1 - @ Clyde - not a fan of putting this in week 1, but I guess it works for Defiance/Napoleon Week 2 - Week 3 - Shelby Week 4 - Norwalk Week 5 - @ Perkins Week 6 - @ Edison Week 7 - Huron Week 8 - ColumbianWeek 9 - @ Port ClintonWeek 10 - Vermilion Port Clinton has to be either week 8 or 9. There will be a Lake Crossover in either week 8 or week 9 and it will be either Sandusky or Columbian, probably Sandusky if it's enrollment based. I would prefer to see whichever Lake team we don't play in that crossover be scheduled for week 2, but that could possibly be an away game at Canfield if that is a home and home contract. Canfield would seem like the kind of game you schedule as a one off, so here's hoping that we did that and are still playing both Sandusky and Columbian in '23. Week 8(H) Columbian, Week 9(A) Port Clinton So that means our week 2 is the only unknown. It won't be Sandusky, they will be playing Ross in week 2. I would have liked playing all 5 Lake schools, but if one had to be left out then Sandusky would be my choice due to having less history with them compared to the others. Edit: just noticed the note on Bellevue's week 2 slot stating that Canfield is currently a 1 year contract (2022), so that we will be looking for a week 2, but that it could change.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Feb 15, 2022 22:28:39 GMT -5
So here are all the known crossover games for the first year of the new divisional setup. This was the biggest thing I was looking to find out in this thread:
Week 1: Bellevue @ Clyde
Week 2 (?): Norwalk's schedule from the spreadsheet says Huron, Huron's schedule from the spreadsheet is open Huron's schedule from arbiter says Brookside, Norwalk's schedule from arbiter is open Brookside's schedule from Arbiter says Huron, Brookside's schedule from the spreadsheet is completely blank
Week 3: Vermilion @ Willard (Bay-River)
Week 4: Norwalk @ Bellevue Huron @ Perkins
These 10 from weeks 5-10 would presumably be the mandatory ones, and I'm not quite sure what formula/metric would have been used to come up with these particular pairings, but it seems to be more based on history and geography than enrollment. I suppose it's also possible that any of those 3 Lake-Bay crossovers from weeks 1-4 could have been one of the mandatory crossover pairs that swapped weeks with an elective crossover pairing to fit someone's schedule better.
Week 5: Bellevue @ Perkins Clyde @ Port Clinton Huron @ Columbian Norwalk @ Edison Sandusky @ Vermilion
Week 6: Norwalk @ Vermilion
Week 7: Edison @ Perkins
Week 8: Columbian @ Bellevue
Week 9: Clyde @ Huron
Week 10: Port Clinton @ Sandusky
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Post by maplecityjake on Feb 16, 2022 0:47:12 GMT -5
From my understanding, Norwalk is looking for games, Weeks 1 and 2, 2023 and 2024
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Post by clydesbcfan on Feb 16, 2022 11:43:50 GMT -5
So here are all the known crossover games for the first year of the new divisional setup. This was the biggest thing I was looking to find out in this thread: Week 1: Bellevue @ Clyde Week 2 (?): Huron's schedule from arbiter says Brookside, Week 3:Vermilion @ Willard (Bay-River) Week 4: Norwalk @ Bellevue Huron @ Perkins
These 10 from weeks 5-10 would presumably be the mandatory ones, and I'm not quite sure what formula/metric would have been used to come up with these particular pairings, but it seems to be more based on history and geography than enrollment. I suppose it's also possible that any of those 3 Lake-Bay crossovers from weeks 1-4 could have been one of the mandatory crossover pairs that swapped weeks with an elective crossover pairing to fit someone's schedule better. Week 5:Bellevue @ Perkins Clyde @ Port Clinton Huron @ Columbian Norwalk @ Edison Sandusky @ Vermilion Week 6:Norwalk @ Vermilion Week 7:Edison @ Perkins Week 8:Columbian @ Bellevue Week 9:Clyde @ Huron Week 10:Port Clinton @ Sandusky
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Post by maplecityjake on Feb 16, 2022 12:15:30 GMT -5
If Huron doesn't like playing Bellevue, playing Columbian won't be a thrill
Sandusky-Vermilion, an old ESC matchup
I figured Bellevue was likely getting Columbian than Sandusky for reason mentioned; much more history with Tornadoes than Streaks
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Post by footballfan99 on Feb 17, 2022 7:41:06 GMT -5
Trucker schedule from Arbiter doesn't match very well at all with what was posted above. This is a link to Arbiter Live for Trucker Schedule this year. All of the opponents are the same as last year except Week 4, they dropped Hartley and are playing Alliance at Mount Union. www.arbiterlive.com/Teams/Schedule/4000939(click the dropdown box to change to 2022-23 season)
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Feb 17, 2022 12:44:59 GMT -5
This thread is for 2023
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Post by footballfan99 on Feb 19, 2022 9:55:49 GMT -5
Thanks for clarifying...disregard my post.
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Post by runawaytrain on Mar 14, 2022 14:32:12 GMT -5
The River getting back to eight teams can't come soon enough. Calvert had to pick up Berne Union in Week 7 and will travel four hours to Rayland Buckeye Local for Week 8.
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Mar 14, 2022 15:27:28 GMT -5
How much of an issue is the TCL picking up Lima Senior do y'all think it will pose for the SBC? Those NLL and TCL schools may interact with each other a lot more for those bye weeks, seeing as how they are both odd-numbered leagues now.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Mar 14, 2022 22:42:38 GMT -5
How much of an issue is the TCL picking up Lima Senior do y'all think it will pose for the SBC? Those NLL and TCL schools may interact with each other a lot more for those bye weeks, seeing as how they are both odd-numbered leagues now. You are right that the TCL and NLL bye teams are likely to pair up, so far at least 3 of these pairings are known for 2023 (Northview/Lima week 4, Ross/Waite week 9, Clay/Rogers week 10) For now, this really only affects the SBC Lake and Bay in week 4, since weeks 5-10 are now fully scheduled with 4 division games and 2 mandatory crossovers. With the TCL no longer available in week 4, the Bay schools won't have a close and easy option to use to duck the Lake. They'll either have to find other options which are likely to involve more travel, or break down and voluntarily play a 3rd crossover game against a Lake school. So far for Week 4 2023 we know 3 games: Norwalk @ Bellevue (voluntary crossover) Warren JFK @ Perkins Parma Padua @ Sandusky
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Mar 15, 2022 12:36:06 GMT -5
Hopefully brighter minds prevail in the Bay when they realize the duck and cover method isn't as necessary with expanded playoffs.
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Post by maplecityjake on Aug 28, 2022 20:51:19 GMT -5
2023
Week 1 for Norwalk (H) Start
Week 2 (A) Rogers
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Post by sport24278 on Aug 29, 2022 5:20:56 GMT -5
2023 Week 1 for Norwalk (H) Start Week 2 (A) Rogers Is Macfarland scheduling games again for Norwalk?
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Aug 29, 2022 7:06:51 GMT -5
Here's what's known for Bellevue's 2023 schedule:
Week 1 - @ Clyde Week 2 - open Week 3 - Shelby Week 4 - Norwalk Week 5 - @ Perkins Week 6 - @ Edison Week 7 - Huron Week 8 - @ or vs. Columbian (Arbiter says away game, spreadsheet says home game) Week 9 - @ Port Clinton Week 10 - Vermilion
Bellevue is on the open weeks list for Week 2 in 2023 and 2024 (on the spreadsheet link clydesbcfan posted upthread), so Canfield was a one year thing.
Note, Sandusky is not available in week 2 because their game with Fremont Ross is being moved to that week due to the NLL's new 8 conference game schedule. So that means Bellevue will be playing 8 of the possible 9 Lake + Bay opponents and not all 9.
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Post by maplecityjake on Aug 29, 2022 9:34:35 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but I'm going outside the box; flip Clyde-Vermilion. Like Nike, just do it, please and thank you
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