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Post by downtown_4_3 on Oct 20, 2016 7:20:34 GMT -5
See Galion is looking for a new boys basketball coach. Isn't it kinda late to be looking for a new coach?
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Post by awebgsu on Oct 20, 2016 11:07:54 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2016 21:01:30 GMT -5
Anonymous negativity.
Sad. Sad. Sad.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2016 16:26:18 GMT -5
Any word on progress for the replacement?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2016 22:06:43 GMT -5
I have heard they have a few names and will expedite the interviews.
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Post by gt1975 on Oct 31, 2016 15:11:17 GMT -5
Galion is hiring Matt Valentine. I believe he graduated from Galion in the early to mid 90s and his wife is the volleyball coach. I think his highest level of basketball coaching experience is 6th grade. Everybody they interviewed had much more experience but the AD coached football with him at some point and they are buddies. This is just an embarrassing hire. Galion needs a new AD. He has done a poor job in the 2 years since he's been here. I cannot see how anybody would think this is a good hire. I know this is short notice but they still had much more experienced and qualified candidates and they decide to go with a friend. This is why Galion is going downhill. The people making the decisions are not qualified to make the decisions and they are hiring coaches that are not qualified to lead a program.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2016 16:13:49 GMT -5
Galion is hiring Matt Valentine. I believe he graduated from Galion in the early to mid 90s and his wife is the volleyball coach. I think his highest level of basketball coaching experience is 6th grade. Everybody they interviewed had much more experience but the AD coached football with him at some point and they are buddies. This is just an embarrassing hire. Galion needs a new AD. He has done a poor job in the 2 years since he's been here. I cannot see how anybody would think this is a good hire. I know this is short notice but they still had much more experienced and qualified candidates and they decide to go with a friend. This is why Galion is going downhill. The people making the decisions are not qualified to make the decisions and they are hiring coaches that are not qualified to lead a program. So sad. I have spoke with this AD on a few occasions and I could see someone agreeing with your post gt1975.
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Post by galion on Oct 31, 2016 21:40:17 GMT -5
Galion is hiring Matt Valentine. I believe he graduated from Galion in the early to mid 90s and his wife is the volleyball coach. I think his highest level of basketball coaching experience is 6th grade. Everybody they interviewed had much more experience but the AD coached football with him at some point and they are buddies. This is just an embarrassing hire. Galion needs a new AD. He has done a poor job in the 2 years since he's been here. I cannot see how anybody would think this is a good hire. I know this is short notice but they still had much more experienced and qualified candidates and they decide to go with a friend. This is why Galion is going downhill. The people making the decisions are not qualified to make the decisions and they are hiring coaches that are not qualified to lead a program. Before you go crushing the AD for the hire, tell us who else even applied. My guess would be he is an emergency hire and they will do a real search after the season when actual head coaches will be able to apply for the job. As far as I'm concerned those who forced the previous coach to quit are getting exactly what they deserve. I just hope that Matt doesn't talk too sternly to the poor boys so their parents don't get upset. Let's be serious for just a second, this team lost everything from last season just like the football team did. Even with the previous coach they'd have been lucky to win 5 games.
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Post by galion on Oct 31, 2016 21:51:03 GMT -5
Galion is hiring Matt Valentine. I believe he graduated from Galion in the early to mid 90s and his wife is the volleyball coach. I think his highest level of basketball coaching experience is 6th grade. Everybody they interviewed had much more experience but the AD coached football with him at some point and they are buddies. This is just an embarrassing hire. Galion needs a new AD. He has done a poor job in the 2 years since he's been here. I cannot see how anybody would think this is a good hire. I know this is short notice but they still had much more experienced and qualified candidates and they decide to go with a friend. This is why Galion is going downhill. The people making the decisions are not qualified to make the decisions and they are hiring coaches that are not qualified to lead a program. So sad. I have spoke with this AD on a few occasions and I could see someone agreeing with your post gt1975. Really? What did he say to you to make you feel that way?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2016 22:03:53 GMT -5
Galion is hiring Matt Valentine. I believe he graduated from Galion in the early to mid 90s and his wife is the volleyball coach. I think his highest level of basketball coaching experience is 6th grade. Everybody they interviewed had much more experience but the AD coached football with him at some point and they are buddies. This is just an embarrassing hire. Galion needs a new AD. He has done a poor job in the 2 years since he's been here. I cannot see how anybody would think this is a good hire. I know this is short notice but they still had much more experienced and qualified candidates and they decide to go with a friend. This is why Galion is going downhill. The people making the decisions are not qualified to make the decisions and they are hiring coaches that are not qualified to lead a program. Before you go crushing the AD for the hire, tell us who else even applied. My guess would be he is an emergency hire and they will do a real search after the season when actual head coaches will be able to apply for the job. As far as I'm concerned those who forced the previous coach to quit are getting exactly what they deserve. I just hope that Matt doesn't talk too sternly to the poor boys so their parents don't get upset. Let's be serious for just a second, this team lost everything from last season just like the football team did. Even with the previous coach they'd have been lucky to win 5 games.Being serious still. The truth is he went .500 last season and some people felt he was great. Was selected to coach the local All- Star game with a 12-12 season. 5 games may have been about right.
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Post by galion on Oct 31, 2016 22:53:33 GMT -5
Are you going to respond to my question?
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Post by gt1975 on Oct 31, 2016 23:02:37 GMT -5
Well I'm not going to name the names of the candidates that interviewed but they were coaches with previous Varsity experience and a couple with at least high school experience. There is no excuse to hire a coach that has not coached above the 6th grade level. They could've went with one of the other candidates even for a year. This is a ridiculous hire even with the situation they were in....Also the parents were not upset becasue the previous coach spoke "too sternly". Parents were upset because of the frequent use of profanity. Not just when he was angry but casually saying the f-word around players every couple of minutes. Also, they were angry for him making several sexually based remarks to and with players as well as using gay slurs torwards the kids. None of these things are acceptable for a coach to do around kids. Next time you want to blame the kids or parents maybe you should learn all the facts of the situation not just what the coach or administration is telling you. I can send you the list of complaints I was sent if you would like. Just stop acting like the coach is a helpless victim.
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Post by galion on Nov 1, 2016 0:20:05 GMT -5
Never claimed he was a helpless victim. All I'm saying is that if you are going to force a coach out 2 weeks before practices start who the F do you think that you're going to end up with? What does "varsity experience mean"? Who were the other candidates? What were the options? Do you even know? Again, you're not getting a coach with any legitimate credentials at this time of year. There were not going to have any good options. Funny though, that after following up and investigating all of the "allegations" he still had the job. It seems to me that if any of these were proven true that he would have been relieved of his coaching duties. Oh, and one more thing, I don't need the administration or other coaches to tell me anything. I've coached track with this man for 4 years now and have on no occasion heard him utter that kind of language or those types of derogatory phrases around or towards any student athlete regardless of how angry or disappointed he may have gotten. I suggest that perhaps you might want to take a closer look at your second hand info because it certainly doesn't jive with what I've witnessed firsthand.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2016 7:23:56 GMT -5
Are you going to respond to my question? Did not seem to be experienced in ways an AD should. Did not appear to have the discipline and organization to manage an athletic department. Or the drive to build successful programs. In saying that I can see how someone would agree with the statements from gt1975.
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Post by galion on Nov 1, 2016 7:46:12 GMT -5
All I can tell you is this Scooter. He had the character and discipline to self report perhaps the 2nd most successful coach in Galion history to the OHSAA. Since he took over our athletic department has seen improvement in its facilities and is infinitely better "organized" than it was under his predecessors.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2016 8:32:54 GMT -5
Not making a statement on his character and your track whistle would do better than his predecessor so I don't think it is fair to him to be compared in that way. Most ADs/admin will tell you, self reporting an infraction is the only action to take on a possible violation. Then let the state figure it out. There are many self reported occurrences with most being resolved after a little investigation and a recommendation. A small percentage turns in to discipline.
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Post by gt1975 on Nov 1, 2016 9:58:20 GMT -5
I don't care how long you've known or worked with him, I believe the people that told me these things happened. They have no reason to lie to me. As for why he wasn't fired. It was a flawed investigation led by your friend and his friend, the AD. Also, I thought "varsity experience" was pretty obvious. They have been a Varsity head coach before.... Scooter, Galion is clearly buddies with the AD and former coach. He is going to stick up for them no matter what.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2016 10:06:46 GMT -5
gt, I cannot say that any of the 3 guys you mention are bad people, they may be great guys and they all 3 could be "buddies", but I can agree with you in one area, There were coaches interviewed with varsity experience that had past winning records, which the previous coach STILL does not have, and they were passed on.
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Post by gt1975 on Nov 1, 2016 11:09:33 GMT -5
You're right scooter. I did not mean to imply that they're bad people. They could be great people. But that does not make them qualified to be ADs or coaches. It also does not excuse their actions.
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Post by galion on Nov 1, 2016 16:20:31 GMT -5
I don't care how long you've known or worked with him, I believe the people that told me these things happened. They have no reason to lie to me. As for why he wasn't fired. It was a flawed investigation led by your friend and his friend, the AD. Also, I thought "varsity experience" was pretty obvious. They have been a Varsity head coach before.... Scooter, Galion is clearly buddies with the AD and former coach. He is going to stick up for them no matter what. I'm not buddies with them. We don't hang out together. All I'm saying is I've watched this guy work first hand and that he's exhibited none of the behaviors that you're accusing him of. Now it was a flawed investigation? Please tell us how it was flawed. What former varsity head coaches applied for this job? You do understand that they had to apply to get hired right? You want to make your point tell me who applied and got turned down. I'm not going "to stick up for them no matter what". But you'd better present actual facts to me if you want to change my mind. I find it funny that you refuse to name any of the other applicants to prove your point. Hell, message me if you want. The other thing that makes no sense to me is why would a guy who would self report Hawkins fall on his sword for a 12-12 first year varsity basketball coach who, in my opinion, was accused of doing worse. Believe me those 2 are not "buddies".
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Post by gt1975 on Nov 1, 2016 16:38:50 GMT -5
I saw firsthand some of the language he used casually around the kids at the games. That's why I am so willing to believe that it happened as frequently as they say....The investigation was flawed because they only interviewed about 12 players. 8 of those were varsity players that he had coached since they were in middle school so they are going to stick up for him. 3 were JV players that actually told the truth about what happened. And 1 was the son of one of the coach's friends who was conveniently the only freshman that was asked questions. Also, at one point the AD lied and said he interviewed the 3 JV players but he hadn't. On most days the Varsity, JV, and Freshman all practiced together. So why would they interview just 12 out of about 30 with 8 knowing him since they were in middle school and 1 being a friend's son? That's flawed.... When it comes to who applied, Scooter and I both know names. There was one who coached at Highland and I believe even won a coach of the year award for the conference. I'm not naming anymore. To think that Matt Valentine was a good choice is absurd. I'm sure that everybody that applied had more experience....As for the AD reporting Hawkins, the AD was essentially forced to report it because a parent was going to and may have already done so. And yes, the AD and former bball coach are buddies.
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Post by galion on Nov 1, 2016 19:23:03 GMT -5
Fine, I'll take your word for it. I just find it hard to believe that 1. His coaching demeanor would change that drastically simply because he's coaching a different sport. And 2. that if there was any better option than the guy they hired that they wouldn't go with him. I don't see the upside other than to re post the position after the season when they will actually know for certain what staff positions will be available to attract a new coach. They certainly couldn't have gone into this thinking Matt would be a long term solution. It seems like a desperation hire to me. Keep in mind that our football coach wasn't even originally on our short list but when the potential candidates discovered what out experience cap was on bringing in new teachers they withdrew themselves from consideration. The same thing easily could have happened here. Unless you want to claim the the AD and coach Dick are buddies too.
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Post by gt1975 on Nov 1, 2016 20:11:30 GMT -5
I agree that this could be a 1 year deal and they could open it up after the season. That's what SHOULD happen but we won't know that until after the season....You can't deny that the AD and Valentine have a good relationship. The AD coached on the same football staff with Matt and his brother. His brother, sister in law, and wife are all coaches in the district. So they clearly know each other pretty well... Hopefully it all works out but it just doesn't look good.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2016 21:27:20 GMT -5
Every coach is on a one year contract so finding the best coach next year is possible regardless of who was hired now. What gt is asking is did they get the best coach available at this time. I cannot answer that as I was not involved, but I do know that some experience did apply and was interviewed.
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Post by galion on Nov 1, 2016 23:20:41 GMT -5
I agree that this could be a 1 year deal and they could open it up after the season. That's what SHOULD happen but we won't know that until after the season....You can't deny that the AD and Valentine have a good relationship. The AD coached on the same football staff with Matt and his brother. His brother, sister in law, and wife are all coaches in the district. So they clearly know each other pretty well... Hopefully it all works out but it just doesn't look good. To be fair his sister in law and wife were both coaches before the current AD took over. What does his brother coach? As far as it working out this basketball season was set to be a bigger dumpster fire than our football season was before the coaching change took place. It will be interesting to see which team can scrape together more victories the boys team or the girls team.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2016 7:06:51 GMT -5
I agree that this could be a 1 year deal and they could open it up after the season. That's what SHOULD happen but we won't know that until after the season....You can't deny that the AD and Valentine have a good relationship. The AD coached on the same football staff with Matt and his brother. His brother, sister in law, and wife are all coaches in the district. So they clearly know each other pretty well... Hopefully it all works out but it just doesn't look good. To be fair his sister in law and wife were both coaches before the current AD took over. What does his brother coach? As far as it working out this basketball season was set to be a bigger dumpster fire than our football season was before the coaching change took place. It will be interesting to see which team can scrape together more victories the boys team or the girls team. With a support group like this it's hard to see them not being successful.
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Post by gt1975 on Nov 2, 2016 12:18:08 GMT -5
His brother was the basketball assistant last year and I believe he's doing it again this year... I don't know much about the girls team right now but the boys may struggle to get more than 2 wins
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Post by galion on Nov 2, 2016 15:53:00 GMT -5
That sounds about right for the girls too
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Post by galion on Nov 2, 2016 17:07:39 GMT -5
To be fair his sister in law and wife were both coaches before the current AD took over. What does his brother coach? As far as it working out this basketball season was set to be a bigger dumpster fire than our football season was before the coaching change took place. It will be interesting to see which team can scrape together more victories the boys team or the girls team. With a support group like this it's hard to see them not being successful. Well Scooter, they have their mommies and daddies to tell them how great they are. As for me, I believe that it is possible to support a team while still being realistic about expectations.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 2, 2016 18:52:58 GMT -5
Every coach is on a one year contract so finding the best coach next year is possible regardless of who was hired now. What gt is asking is did they get the best coach available at this time. I cannot answer that as I was not involved, but I do know that some experience did apply and was interviewed. Curious, do some labor contracts say preference must be given to a teacher who signs the internal posting over an outside applicant?
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