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Post by galion on Nov 2, 2016 20:22:16 GMT -5
Yes, but that wouldn't apply here as the new coach is not a school employee.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2016 21:41:46 GMT -5
With a support group like this it's hard to see them not being successful. Well Scooter, they have their mommies and daddies to tell them how great they are. As for me, I believe that it is possible to support a team while still being realistic about expectations. I agree with you there. But yet you are defending the hiring of a daddy and not going with a seasoned coach. Just an observation.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2016 21:43:51 GMT -5
All school contract have wording to favor the school employee over an outsider. But they usually have some wording that mentions experience or being qualified.
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Post by galion on Nov 2, 2016 22:02:54 GMT -5
Well Scooter, they have their mommies and daddies to tell them how great they are. As for me, I believe that it is possible to support a team while still being realistic about expectations. I agree with you there. But yet you are defending the hiring of a daddy and not going with a seasoned coach. Just an observation. I still haven't been privy to the "list of candidates" nor was I present during the interview process. How can you be so sure that these "seasoned coaches" didn't withdraw themselves from consideration once they got a closer look at the situation or the possible constraints involved? That's what happened with the top football coaching candidates. Unless he adopted a kid over the last few months the new coach doesn't even have a kid on the team so what are you talking about?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2016 22:37:37 GMT -5
If you want the list of candidates call your AD. You work for him so ask. I was not in the interviews but I do know a coach who applied and was interviewed.
Has the hired coach been a basketball coach before for a high school district?
I have no dog in this race. Bottom line is as fans we want our teams to be good and compete but time after time I hear about parents having more input into coaching and coaching positions. Many cases, it does not turn out well. And during down cycles(which it sounds like you may be in) it rarely gets better by getting a dad off the street.
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Post by gt1975 on Nov 2, 2016 23:09:03 GMT -5
His son is a 7th grader
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Post by galion on Nov 2, 2016 23:32:40 GMT -5
If you want the list of candidates call your AD. You work for him so ask. I was not in the interviews but I do know a coach who applied and was interviewed. Has the hired coach been a basketball coach before for a high school district? I have no dog in this race. Bottom line is as fans we want our teams to be good and compete but time after time I hear about parents having more input into coaching and coaching positions. Many cases, it does not turn out well. And during down cycles(which it sounds like you may be in) it rarely gets better by getting a dad off the street. I get that he has no experience. What I don't get is the "dad off the street" reference.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2016 23:35:20 GMT -5
Does he have kids? He is a dad.
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Post by galion on Nov 3, 2016 5:15:20 GMT -5
What does that have anything to do with anything? The way you phrase it you seemed to be implying that they hired him so he could coach his own kid. Would the hire have any more or less merit if he had no kids? This situation is stupid enough at face value you don't need to go grasping at straws here. You can't seriously think the fact that he has a 7th grade son had anything to do with the hire.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2016 7:33:20 GMT -5
NO, the way I phrased it was they hired a guy who appears to only have experience coaching his kids in Youth League. That's a daddy coach.
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Post by galion on Nov 3, 2016 9:27:57 GMT -5
Well Scooter, they have their mommies and daddies to tell them how great they are. As for me, I believe that it is possible to support a team while still being realistic about expectations. I agree with you there. But yet you are defending the hiring of a daddy and not going with a seasoned coach. Just an observation. That's obviously not how you phrased it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2016 11:53:32 GMT -5
That is totally how it was phrased. Many coaches with scholastic experience have coached their own kids over the years and I do not call them daddy coaches. To me daddy coaches are those who have ONLY coached their kids on youth teams.
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Post by galion on Nov 3, 2016 17:56:09 GMT -5
Whatever
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 4, 2016 17:09:57 GMT -5
Well Scooter, they have their mommies and daddies to tell them how great they are. As for me, I believe that it is possible to support a team while still being realistic about expectations. I agree with you there. But yet you are defending the hiring of a daddy and not going with a seasoned coach. Just an observation.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2016 4:14:31 GMT -5
As I said, there is a difference between a daddy coach and a player's dad.
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Post by galion on Nov 5, 2016 5:30:32 GMT -5
Keep on digging there big guy.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2016 5:45:49 GMT -5
Never been a digger. Been misunderstood a few times, but not because I had a shovel in my hand.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2016 5:46:30 GMT -5
Congratulations to the new hire. I hope your season is a success.
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Post by gt1975 on Nov 14, 2016 12:30:40 GMT -5
This topic should be in the MOAC section. Why is it in the OCC?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 14, 2016 23:05:39 GMT -5
It's not.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 8:34:55 GMT -5
Good question gt, someone saw the mistake and moved it after you pointed it out.
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Post by galiontiger on Dec 4, 2016 17:30:01 GMT -5
I got to put my 2 cents in..about all that it is worth. LOL The AD AND Principal did a dis-service to Coach Bright. If they had enough evidence they would have fired him last year. This man gave up coaching at Crestline (his first year with them) to come over here to Galion to take over the basketball season. It was a perfect fit for him, and he caught hell for leaving Crestline so soon. The guy last year helped out in like "at least" 3 sports (track, football and basketball). You can't find many guys who are that dedicated to a school. Did he have problems that needed corrected? Of course, that's why you counsel a coach and let him know this or that won't be tolerated anymore. The parents that were against Coach Bright wouldn't let it go. I heard the outrageous allegations from our AD during the meeting we had this year..."he was using a shooting machine that shouldn't be allowed under High School guidelines...he made fun of a handicapped person." the same kid (who I think) he let play and help out with the team. Who was there on Sundays shooting with the team. Some of the allegations were ridiculous, and the AD mentioned as such. He said they (the parents) wouldn't stop and the allegations got crazier. I know it was an annoyance to the AD and the Principal, but they should have squashed this in the butt earlier. They fanned the flames by their lack of leadership. That's just my opinion, but I'm not impressed with any dealings I've had with the AD nor the Principal. I'm going to speak my mind with this. I don't care. My son won't be on the team this year because of this firing. it's the first time we never discussed something like, He just came in one day and said, "Coach Bright had to step down today, and I'm not playing basketball this year. I just said I'll support your decision. Coach Bright was a good coach in my eyes. It's too bad for Galion. They don't have a good record on keeping coaches here. How could you not blame the administration? Leadership starts at the top, right?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 4, 2016 18:04:05 GMT -5
Will he still be a track coach?
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Post by galiontiger on Dec 4, 2016 18:24:03 GMT -5
My son thinks he is.
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Post by gt1975 on Dec 4, 2016 18:47:56 GMT -5
I disagree with how the administration handled the situation too but I felt like the coach should have been disciplined for his actions, but I don't feel like getting into all of it again. Either way, I think everyone can agree the administration handled it horribly. And they followed that mishandled situation with the hiring of an unqualified coach to replace him. So we definitely have an administration problem.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 4, 2016 18:59:59 GMT -5
Good guy for track, not for basketball??
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Post by gt1975 on Dec 4, 2016 19:21:44 GMT -5
He made the decision to resign. The administration didn't ask or force him to resign. He just got tired of the complaints. That's why he is allowed to stay as the track coach. I believe all the complaints were basketball related so he feels fine coaching track still.
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Post by galion on Dec 5, 2016 4:42:47 GMT -5
Good guy for track, not for basketball?? Apparently he must treat Basketball players differently than track athletes if you're inclined to believe the bs.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2016 7:33:03 GMT -5
It's more likely that a few basketball parents are the issue.
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Post by galiontiger on Dec 5, 2016 22:23:46 GMT -5
It's more likely that a few basketball parents are the issue. Exactly...my thing is I know he resigned, but he made it thru basketball last year. We all had that meeting in the H.S. to talk about all the allegations on him with the Principal and AD. They told us he was staying on as the coach. Then like right before basketball training starts up he resigns??? I mean how does these administrators let these parents continue to make complaints even in the off-season against this coach? I just don't get it. I would never want to coach at Galion, even though most of the parents are AMAZING. Soooo supportive and a great community to play for. But wow letting a few parents have so much control of your organization, is just crazy to me. At least (from what I'm getting and hearing) the administration is just ok with competing now at Galion. "...It's not alway about winning.." I think they are going to start handing out participation trophies next year. ha!
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