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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2016 19:54:25 GMT -5
I heard that Vent was the player that was suspended for the first 6 games. Was he the only one? That will hurt them.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2016 20:46:21 GMT -5
Went to the scrimmage too. Sat and watched 4 mediocre teams today. All of them got major flaws to shore up. Each team if they play anyone with decent post play are in big trouble! No one from Huron stood out as a 23 point scorer at any point. And got out hustled in every quarter. Harding had a couple of decent players. #5 seemed to be who the ball had to go through to get the flow of offense. Whe he sat they struggled. #13 shot outside well. Ontario looked good but didn't wow me. Their post player looks like he can do some damage this season. Guards were pretty decent under pressure. As far as Upper goes and I'm going to be pretty critical here they didn't perform well at all. They have 13 dressing varsity this year. Two freshman played alot today and it showed. Defense was lack luster at best. Size is going to be a huge issue this season and boxing out will be a must. The Vent boy was there and played in three quarters. Pretty much a non factor today. The Dible brothers didn't disappoint though. The younger one I think hit 14-17 three pointers today. I think upper took the last 4min quarter from Ontario though. I know it was only one point and that darn scoreboard was not cooperating
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 25, 2016 20:48:48 GMT -5
READ instead of blathering and spewing falsehoods. FACT, bigox said Vent WAS dressed and played. FACT, the number of players Upper had dressed was 20% more than 2 teams and 33% more than another team. You should do a little more research before posting your he said, she said, that end up being UNTRUTHS. Embarrassing for you.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2016 20:49:05 GMT -5
Sounds like a good and fair assessment bigox. Not all coaches see the only value of scrimmages as win/lose. Some coaches use them to create situations for players to grow and sometimes that can end in a lost quarter, but the end result is a better team.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 25, 2016 20:52:55 GMT -5
Sounds like a good and fair assessment bigox. Not all coaches see the only value of scrimmages as win/lose. Some coaches use them to create situations for players to grow and sometimes that can end in a lost quarter, but the end result is a better team. As Joe has been doing for THIRTY YEARS. Today Joe played his 2nd 4 as much as he played his first 5. Which he has been doing in all of his scrimmages. You are an insulting doofus if you think Joe coaches to win scrimmages. Were you there scooty? Or is this just more of your unsubstantiated untruths? Embarrassing for you for guessing about this scrimmage when you weren't there.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 25, 2016 20:59:46 GMT -5
My thoughts. Was Vent hurt, transferred, not eligible? I sure didn't see anyone for Upper that looked like a kid who averaged 21 last year. With Vent I'm sure they'll be a much better team, without him, they're average. Once again scooty misled us on a few issues. He told us an Upper parent told him, "Upper may not have a full roster". The FACTS are that Upper's roster at this scrimmage was 20% larger than 2 of the teams and 33% larger than the other team. Secondly he said, "I've been told Harding is playing well in the pre-season[sic]". By what I saw at this scrimmage, I don't see how that equates. Unless they had a couple of good players missing, the competition was much better or he was being untruthful again. Marion defense was not that good, to keep up they did a lot of pushing, grabbing and holding. Their tallest kid won't make it through many games unless the coach fixes his attitude. Twice that I saw he purpose threw a player to the floor. Once a smaller player blocked him out and he grabbed him by the hips and threw him to the court. The other time a taller player beat him on a post move and again he grabbed the kid by the hips on the way up and threw him to the floor. Harding is no where near the likes of a Sandusky, Shelby and Norwalk in the NOL. Huron will have to hit a lot more of their 3-pointers to win many games this year. They had a player injure an ankle, he could not put weight on it and was on crutches the rest of the day. Ontario was the quickest of the teams and had the best inside game. Two freshman are getting a lot of playing time. Ontario might be hated more than Harding. They have more minority players. They did not have a full roster if Vent was not there. Besides, I was talking once season starts. scooty's BS is up to up to our knees and the season hasn't started. You posted what an Upper parent told you about Upper's roster would look like today. Now that it's been proven to be an untrue he said she said. That you post is gospel. Your only hope is to lie your way out of it. How embarrassing for scooty.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2016 23:07:57 GMT -5
I heard that Vent was the player that was suspended for the first 6 games. WTF, read this.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2016 23:12:04 GMT -5
Sounds like a good and fair assessment bigox. Not all coaches see the only value of scrimmages as win/lose. Some coaches use them to create situations for players to grow and sometimes that can end in a lost quarter, but the end result is a better team. As Joe has been doing for THIRTY YEARS. Today Joe played his 2nd 4 as much as he played his first 5. Which he has been doing in all of his scrimmages. You are an insulting doofus if you think Joe coaches to win scrimmages. Were you there scooty? Or is this just more of your unsubstantiated untruths? Embarrassing for you for guessing about this scrimmage when you weren't there. Paranoid again? I made no direct statement towards any coach. If anything I would have been referring to coaches that lost quarters to either develop players or evaluate them. Not every statement on the Northern 10 thread is about your school.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2016 23:19:05 GMT -5
They did not have a full roster if Vent was not there. Besides, I was talking once season starts. scooty's BS is up to up to our knees and the season hasn't started. You posted what an Upper parent told you about Upper's roster would look like today. Now that it's been proven to be an untrue he said she said. That you post is gospel. Your only hope is to lie your way out of it. How embarrassing for scooty. Read again before you embarrass your self further. I said a parent told me they would not have a full roster to start the season. Who really care about the roster at a scrimmage.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 26, 2016 0:21:00 GMT -5
You know just as little about law as other matters you blather about. In a court of law what you say would also be considered "hearsay". Only what Shelby's coach would say under oath would be considered to be credible. You don't even understand the Hearsay Rule. Another reason a nobody like should not be trusted more than JB and/or TH. Again you do not understand because you want to argue everything. I said YOU have hearsay. I have it direct. You are getting it third person. You heard what someone wanted to tell you. I heard it straight from the guy you are claiming to know about. Both may be hearsay, but I know what was said. YOUu were told what was said. I COMPLETELY understand, you do not. Do the research, which you never do. If a court wanted to know what the Shelby coach said they would subpena him to hear it from from his mouth. Not you, not me, not JB or TH. The reason I COMPLETELY understand the Hearsay Rules is because when I was sued I could not call a friend as a witness who had a conversation with the guy who was suing me. My Lawyer said that would be "Hearsay", we could not use it. The guy suing me would have to be asked about the conversation on the stand under oath. That wasn't going to happen. Understand? You would be the one who wants to argue, but you don't know what you're talking about. You usually don't. If you refuse to do the research and don't believe me, ask a Lawyer. Become learned
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 26, 2016 0:39:44 GMT -5
Remember that OHA has multiple varsity teams that play. One team is full of scholarship athletes that travels the country playing the top teams across the nation and has major sponsors. The other teams are filled with tuition students who pay to attend the school. They still travel some but it's not the team you see on tv or the team that Mello or Rando played for. The "A" team has 12 players, 11 are black kids, for the most part all between 6-4 and 6-9. The "B" team has 18 players, 8 are white. If you aren't good enough to make the "A" team and still want to go to Oak Hill, $33,000 will get you on the "B" team.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 26, 2016 0:41:27 GMT -5
As Joe has been doing for THIRTY YEARS. Today Joe played his 2nd 4 as much as he played his first 5. Which he has been doing in all of his scrimmages. You are an insulting doofus if you think Joe coaches to win scrimmages. Were you there scooty? Or is this just more of your unsubstantiated untruths? Embarrassing for you for guessing about this scrimmage when you weren't there. Paranoid again? I made no direct statement towards any coach. If anything I would have been referring to coaches that lost quarters to either develop players or evaluate them. Not every statement on the Northern 10 thread is about your school. You weren't there, you're just making shat up. I was ASKED to report on the scrimmage by OX, You would be the know nothing nobody that NO ONE asked your opinion. As is typical of you, always pretending to know, when in actually you know nothing
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Post by 4 on Nov 26, 2016 0:51:08 GMT -5
Not looking for a debate but color has nothing to do with it shouldn't even have been stated lol. Coulda just said 12 "people" but everyone on the worse of 2 has a chance to make the better team. And you have to be good to get on to oak hill. You just don't pay and get on the team. I know one of the kids trainers. He has d1 coaches on him, but he's got a few years still.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 26, 2016 0:51:17 GMT -5
scooty's BS is up to up to our knees and the season hasn't started. You posted what an Upper parent told you about Upper's roster would look like today. Now that it's been proven to be an untrue he said she said. That you post is gospel. Your only hope is to lie your way out of it. How embarrassing for scooty. Read again before you embarrass your self further. I said a parent told me they would not have a full roster to start the season. Who really care about the roster at a scrimmage. YOU read what OX said, the Upper expert. OX said Vent WAS there and OX said Vent DID play. More of your BS. More untruths. Ox WAS there, I was there. YOU were not there. I find it interesting that your post telling us about an Upper parent telling you the problem with Upper's roster size, has disappear from this thread. The only thing you could do to cover your lie.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 26, 2016 1:14:26 GMT -5
Not looking for a debate but color has nothing to do with it shouldn't even have been stated lol. Coulda just said 12 "people" but everyone on the worse of 2 has a chance to make the better team. And you have to be good to get on to oak hill. You just don't pay and get on the team. I know one of the kids trainers. He has d1 coaches on him, but he's got a few years still. Just making an obvious observation. You have seen Oak Hill's "A" team play before right? What did you see? Houles family wanted their kid to go to Ontario. if they got a promise he'd be on Ontario's varsity. From Joe and Tim's observations and conversations, they felt he'd be on Ontario's JV team.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2016 6:18:43 GMT -5
Again you do not understand because you want to argue everything. I said YOU have hearsay. I have it direct. You are getting it third person. You heard what someone wanted to tell you. I heard it straight from the guy you are claiming to know about. Both may be hearsay, but I know what was said. YOUu were told what was said. I COMPLETELY understand, you do not. Do the research, which you never do. If a court wanted to know what the Shelby coach said they would subpena him to hear it from from his mouth. Not you, not me, not JB or TH. The reason I COMPLETELY understand the Hearsay Rules is because when I was sued I could not call a friend as a witness who had a conversation with the guy who was suing me. My Lawyer said that would be "Hearsay", we could not use it. The guy suing me would have to be asked about the conversation on the stand under oath. That wasn't going to happen. Understand? You would be the one who wants to argue, but you don't know what you're talking about. You usually don't. If you reduse to do the research and don't believe me, ask a Lawyer. Become learned Who's in court?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2016 6:20:40 GMT -5
Remember that OHA has multiple varsity teams that play. One team is full of scholarship athletes that travels the country playing the top teams across the nation and has major sponsors. The other teams are filled with tuition students who pay to attend the school. They still travel some but it's not the team you see on tv or the team that Mello or Rando played for. The "A" team has 12 players, 11 are black kids, for the most part all between 6-4 and 6-9. The "B" team has 18 players, 8 are white. If you aren't good enough to make the "A" team and still want to go to Oak Hill, $33,000 will get you on the "B" team. Closer to $38,000.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2016 6:22:35 GMT -5
Paranoid again? I made no direct statement towards any coach. If anything I would have been referring to coaches that lost quarters to either develop players or evaluate them. Not every statement on the Northern 10 thread is about your school. You weren't there, you're just making shat up. I was ASKED to report on the scrimmage by OX, You would be the know nothing nobody that no asked your opinion. As is typical of you, always pretending to know, when in actually you know nothing Never claimed to be there or know anything specific about that scrimmage. I read 2 posts about the same event.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2016 6:24:00 GMT -5
Read again before you embarrass your self further. I said a parent told me they would not have a full roster to start the season. Who really care about the roster at a scrimmage. YOU read what OX said, the CC expert. OX said Vent WAS there and OX said Vent DID play. More of your BS. More untruths. Ox WAS there, YOU were not there. I find it interesting that your post telling us about an Upper parent telling you the problem with Upper's roster size, has disappear from this thread. The only thing you could do to cover your lie. It was never on this thread. IT was in a different thread when Upper was mentioned. And is still there.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 26, 2016 14:31:46 GMT -5
YOU broached the subject of hearsay. The ONLY place The Hearsay Rule is used is in court. You are ignorant of it's definition and use. You have been proven to be not knowledgeable.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 26, 2016 14:50:27 GMT -5
Sounds like a good and fair assessment bigox. Not all coaches see the only value of scrimmages as win/lose. Some coaches use them to create situations for players to grow and sometimes that can end in a lost quarter, but the end result is a better team. Sounds like a pretty specific judgement about a scrimmage you weren't at. You have been proven to be untruthful and/or not knowledgeable on all counts.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 26, 2016 14:57:28 GMT -5
YOU read what OX said, the Upper expert. OX said Vent WAS there and OX said Vent DID play. More of your BS. More untruths. Ox WAS there, YOU were not there. I find it interesting that your post telling us about an Upper parent telling you the problem with Upper's roster size, has disappear from this thread. The only thing you could do to cover your lie. It was never on this thread. IT was in a different thread when Upper was mentioned. And is still there. I apologize for thinking it was on this thread. After your post telling us what a parent said about a "full roster". AGAIN Upper expert bigox had to correct YOU. Telling you that Upper DID have a full roster. just one player sitting out 6 games AND hi played in the scrimmage. You even thanked him for the correction. AGAIN your untruths have been exposed. This time by Upper expert bigox.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 26, 2016 14:59:04 GMT -5
I'm done, you've been proven to be untruthful and or/not knowledgeable in all cases.
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Post by bigox on Nov 26, 2016 16:54:21 GMT -5
Well fellas I'm no CC expert. Lmao! But I like very much N10 talk and lots of good interactive discussion. I am slighted to Upper since my kids go there and I have a boy on the varsity squad. Now if we could please get back to talking about basketball here that would be grand.
Being said has anyone seen other N10 preseason scrimmages?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2016 12:48:15 GMT -5
Sorry bigox, but some people are helpless.
I never mentioned CC's roster. It was Upper that I was told may not begin the season with a full roster.
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Post by bigox on Nov 27, 2016 13:37:37 GMT -5
Sorry bigox, but some people are helpless. I never mentioned CC's roster. It was Upper that I was told may not begin the season with a full roster. Yes Upper has one player missing the first six games. And lost one player to transfer. As far as the rest of the roster they lost three role playing seniors to graduation. Return starting point guard shooting guard and forward. Four seniors four juniors three sophomores and two freshmen round out the varsity
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2016 19:03:15 GMT -5
Sorry bigox, but some people are helpless. I never mentioned CC's roster. It was Upper that I was told may not begin the season with a full roster. Yes Upper has one player missing the first six games. And lost one player to transfer. As far as the rest of the roster they lost three role playing seniors. Return starting point guard shooting guard and forward. Four seniors four juniors three sophomores and two freshmen round out the varsity Thanks for confirming what I was told as being correct.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2016 6:51:27 GMT -5
I would still expect them to do well.
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Post by Hagen on Nov 28, 2016 9:10:03 GMT -5
... Now if we could please get back to talking about basketball here that would be grand. ... We all were thinking the same thing... This childish bickering gets old quick. This is not an official news source, so I honestly don't care about knowing one's bibliography of information provided. Everything is hearsay on here. If it's not hearsay, go work for a media outlet and make everything credible. Now, back to N10 thoughts that aren't racist, Oak Hill Academy info (as we've already hit that topic enough IMO), or other "no, you're an idiot!" comments please.
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Post by Hagen on Nov 28, 2016 9:18:09 GMT -5
Opening week. Thoughts on upcoming games?
Friday, December 2 Buckeye Central at Plymouth 6:00 PM Bucyrus vs. Galion 6:00 PM Carey vs. Riverdale 6:00 PM Colonel Crawford vs. Mansfield Christian 6:00 PM Mohawk vs. New Riegel 6:00 PM Ridgedale at Elgin 6:00 PM Seneca East at Tiffin Calvert 6:00 PM Upper Sandusky at Willard 6:00 PM Saturday, December 3 Buckeye Central vs. South Central 6:00 PM Bucyrus at Northmor 6:00 PM Carey vs. Van Buren 6:00 PM Colonel Crawford at Convoy Crestview (at Bluffton U.) 6:00 PM Seneca East vs. Plymouth 6:00 PM Upper Sandusky vs. New Riegel 6:00 PM Wynford at Shelby 6:00 PM
*All from Northern10.com
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