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Post by jedbartlet98 on Nov 16, 2016 15:10:58 GMT -5
Any word from the MOAC meetings?
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Post by Eagles nest on Nov 17, 2016 9:49:02 GMT -5
Meeting was a success for the Harding faithful, for now! Guess making the playoffs puts things into perspective.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 10:54:30 GMT -5
When Ontario and Clear Fork become members it will not help the Harding membership. IMO
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Post by tjames on Nov 17, 2016 11:56:00 GMT -5
When Ontario and Clear Fork become members it will not help the Harding membership. IMO Can you elaborate?
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Post by presnapread on Nov 17, 2016 12:24:12 GMT -5
When Ontario and Clear Fork become members it will not help the Harding membership. IMO Sooner or later (since it didn't just happen, obviously later) Harding is going to get booted out of the MOAC. Too many behind the scenes alliances within this conference .... More or less, no one can be trusted.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 12:40:35 GMT -5
When Ontario and Clear Fork become members it will not help the Harding membership. IMO Can you elaborate?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 12:43:39 GMT -5
Both IMO, have either stated, acted or made moves to position themselves away from larger schools in their leagues. If the current MOAC is discussing the removal of its biggest school, I doubt Harding's position in the MOAC would be strengthened when these 2 become a part of those talks. Just my thoughts.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 12:47:26 GMT -5
When Ontario and Clear Fork become members it will not help the Harding membership. IMO Sooner or later (since it didn't just happen, obviously later) Harding is going to get booted out of the MOAC. Too many behind the scenes alliances within this conference .... More or less, no one can be trusted. It always has been easier for the weak to talk about someone behind their backs than to their face. Remember, these are the ones teaching and guiding our kids.
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Post by presnapread on Nov 17, 2016 13:17:03 GMT -5
Sooner or later (since it didn't just happen, obviously later) Harding is going to get booted out of the MOAC. Too many behind the scenes alliances within this conference .... More or less, no one can be trusted. It always has been easier for the weak to talk about someone behind their backs than to their face. Remember, these are the ones teaching and guiding our kids. Scooter, in TOTAL AGREEMENT with you and this is what's scarey ..... This is the educational leadership of the ones teaching, coaching and guiding our kids. BUT, this isn't the first of it ..... This type of behind-the-back, underhanded action goes all the way back to the problems between the blue and the red divisions and their split .... It just continues and will eventually lead to the demise of Harding as a member of the MOAC. Some look (looked) at those in education as the last of the ones who could be trusted. This is the furthest from the truth!
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 17, 2016 14:18:31 GMT -5
Both IMO, have either stated, acted or made moves to position themselves away from larger schools in their leagues. If the current MOAC is discussing the removal of its biggest school, I doubt Harding's position in the MOAC would be strengthened when these 2 become a part of those talks. Just my thoughts. Your opinion and thoughts are not worthy. When Ontario joined the NOL they had no problem being one of the 2 smallest schools in that league. They have had no problem competing against Sandusky, an equal to Harding. They have won more NOL league titles than Sandusky, an equal to Harding. Harding is 30 minutes closer to Ontario than Sandusky. Ontario did not state, act or make a move to get away from the NOL, it will no longer exist. They could have been a part of the NEW SBC and played in a Division in which they would have been the largest school. They chose the MOAC, due to proximity of schools. Heck Ontario plays Mansfield Senior, Mansfield Madison, Wooster and Lex. All larger/much larger schools. They have played Ashland and Columbus Gahanna Lincoln/Cleveland Heights even larger schools. When Ontario was working with other schools to create a new "southern league" they had no problem with Harding being one of those schools. At the least Ontario would rather have Harding in the MOAC than play in a 7 school league. Ontario is not like one or more current MOAC schools in their thoughts about Harding. I'll let you speak for Clear Fork, because unlike you I don't claim to know everything that goes on at Clear Fork, a school district you don't live in. Do you claim to know more about Ontario than people in that school district? Another school district you don't live in. There are MANY school districts in North Central Ohio that scooty claims to know more than people living in those districts, or at least pretends to. Take his IMOs and thoughts with a grain of salt.
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Post by babymaker on Nov 17, 2016 15:48:45 GMT -5
Well it will be interesting next year when the competitive balance starts to figure into the equation for divisions. From what I heard it could make quite a big impact. Harding could very well be a 3 even though their head count makes them a 2.
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Post by jedbartlet98 on Nov 17, 2016 20:14:14 GMT -5
Hearing some rumors about the coaching situation at Harding that could shift the balance of power in the MOAC
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Post by tjames on Nov 17, 2016 21:55:39 GMT -5
Hearing some rumors about the coaching situation at Harding that could shift the balance of power in the MOAC Ok..what does that mean
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 22:08:43 GMT -5
When the competetive balance kicks in many school may be on the move to other divisions. When the rosters are totaled and numbers get increased for kids not being elementary or junior high students at you high school, things could really change for some.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 22:11:30 GMT -5
The MOAC may not be looking to go with 7 if Harding is removed. In talks behind the scenes maybe they already have a replacement to stay at 8. Again, IMO Hardings position will not be strengthened with the 2 incoming members.
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Post by 4 on Nov 17, 2016 22:16:58 GMT -5
If there's a change it'd be slater taking over, which would be great for Harding. Only way that happens is if Brady steps down.
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Post by jedbartlet98 on Nov 17, 2016 22:50:52 GMT -5
Hearing rumors of either Ben Mauk or Nick Hajjar taking over at Harding
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Post by hardingmavman on Nov 17, 2016 23:12:37 GMT -5
Hearing rumors of either Ben Mauk or Nick Hajjar taking over at Harding Ben Mauk? Slater would be a much better fit for Harding his been in the system and knows everything about the school
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Post by hardingmavman on Nov 17, 2016 23:15:45 GMT -5
Meeting was a success for the Harding faithful, for now! Guess making the playoffs puts things into perspective. can you give any details to this ?
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Post by 4 on Nov 18, 2016 0:06:59 GMT -5
I think slater gets the job it's been said before. Those will prob just stay rumors. And isn't haajar at nu
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Post by Eagles nest on Nov 18, 2016 6:34:14 GMT -5
Meeting was a success for the Harding faithful, for now! Guess making the playoffs puts things into perspective. can you give any details to this ? I heard only one school, North Union wanted Harding out because of its size but we know its deeper than that. Pleasant was on the fence but voted for Harding to stay. I was also told both Clear Fork and Ontario were present for the meeting and had zero....ZERO... issues with Harding in the league. Also for Ontario and Clear fork they only have to play one large school (unless they schedule non conference) compared to the 4 or 5 they both played in their previous leagues so its a win win for them. Also Shelby and Willard are ready to jump in if the league goes to 10 or current members want to bail. As for a Coaching change like 4 stated above Brady will be the head coach until he is ready to step down. If he leaves I believe they will stay in house for a Head coach going with Slater or Coach Bradys younger brother who is on staff also.
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Post by presnapread on Nov 18, 2016 8:19:53 GMT -5
Know nothing of possible coaching changes, Brady's an excellent coach. Harding out, Shelby in. With Hawkins at Ontario, look for them to rule, ethically or not.
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Post by 4 on Nov 18, 2016 8:48:27 GMT -5
Harding will be in moac until they improve enough they start winning against everyone. Then everyone gets tired of losing and wants them out. Weird how it works. A lot of teams want a bigger school for playoff points. But some don't care. If Harding leaves they could find elsewhere but longer travel, I myself wouldn't mind it at all. But yeah they'll be here awhile.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2016 9:28:21 GMT -5
When Ontario and Clear Fork become members it will not help the Harding membership. IMO Sooner or later (since it didn't just happen, obviously later) Harding is going to get booted out of the MOAC. Too many behind the scenes alliances within this conference .... More or less, no one can be trusted.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2016 9:28:41 GMT -5
can you give any details to this ? I heard only one school, North Union wanted Harding out because of its size but we know its deeper than that. Pleasant was on the fence but voted for Harding to stay. I was also told both Clear Fork and Ontario were present for the meeting and had zero....ZERO... issues with Harding in the league. Also for Ontario and Clear fork they only have to play one large school (unless they schedule non conference) compared to the 4 or 5 they both played in their previous leagues so its a win win for them. Also Shelby and Willard are ready to jump in if the league goes to 10 or current members want to bail. As for a Coaching change like 4 stated above Brady will be the head coach until he is ready to step down. If he leaves I believe they will stay in house for a Head coach going with Slater or Coach Bradys younger brother who is on staff also.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2016 9:30:23 GMT -5
2 accurately stated scenarios about MOAC information but the outcome may be inevitable.
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Post by presnapread on Nov 18, 2016 9:44:17 GMT -5
Hajjar, decent enough guy, knows the game, solid pedigree, but so far, NU not nearly as good as they were under Jesse Miller. Over - rated not worthy of the Harding job even if it were to open. Harding opens they hire Slater or Ogg.
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Post by jedbartlet98 on Nov 18, 2016 13:14:00 GMT -5
Hajjar, decent enough guy, knows the game, solid pedigree, but so far, NU not nearly as good as they were under Jesse Miller. Over - rated not worthy of the Harding job even if it were to open. Harding opens they hire Slater or Ogg. Then Harding doesn't want to win. Since Tim Hinton left they have been in a cycle of giving the job to un-qualified yes men who are "Harding guys". Until they break that cycle they will NEVER be as good as they should be
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Post by 4 on Nov 18, 2016 13:57:58 GMT -5
That's wrong lol. John Brady has good resume, ,coach cupps good resume. Heath Hinton resume wasn't bad. They were all qualified lol. The next head coach if Brady left would be slater.
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Post by babymaker on Nov 18, 2016 14:02:21 GMT -5
Besides what makes Harding a place that a highly qualified coach would want to go to?
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