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Post by wallacefan on Mar 13, 2017 21:56:30 GMT -5
Where do you see the number 10 in any area of that report? For basketball Tier 0 = 0 Tier 1 = 1 Tier 2 = 5 I see it as each player that is a Tier 2 X 5 (multiplier) for 10. Which is how I thought the adjusted count worked. maybe you are right...which would suck. schools that get in recruits after grade 9 should be hit harder IMO. If I get time I'll contact the OHSAA this week for clarification. A 5 count would not move up MSP in all probability. Although it would not surprise me if they had 10 Tier 2's in their 9-12 program.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 3:55:10 GMT -5
Where do you see the number 10 in any area of that report? For basketball Tier 0 = 0 Tier 1 = 1 Tier 2 = 5 I see it as each player that is a Tier 2 X 5 (multiplier) for 10. Which is how I thought the adjusted count worked. maybe you are right... which would suck. schools that get in recruits after grade 9 should be hit harder IMO. If I get time I'll contact the OHSAA this week for clarification. A 5 count would not move up MSP in all probability. Although it would not surprise me if they had 10 Tier 2's in their 9-12 program. It sucks. Mar 13, 2017 wallacefan said:
Dude, you don't understand how the multipliers work....or you have forgotten. Either way, that is wrong.
I can count 5 Tier 2 kids I know. You may be correct in them having more. I still doubt MSP gets bumped to D3.
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Post by malabar10 on Mar 14, 2017 12:51:47 GMT -5
Am I wrong, or does the multiplier only apply to student-athletes that come from outside the "designated" home school district? Wouldn't anyone from th eMCS be not counted as a multiplier? Just asking.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 13:05:57 GMT -5
Am I wrong, or does the multiplier only apply to student-athletes that come from outside the "designated" home school district? Wouldn't anyone from th eMCS be not counted as a multiplier? Just asking. For public schools yes but non-public schools without a district are different since their student can come from anywhere. The explanation I have heard is the non-public schools are asked if the roster player came from a "feeder school" of the same system of education. Since MSP has a JH, their feeder would be their own school. If they could, they may be allowed to include other area non-public schools as a JH feeder since non-public high schools are limited in Mansfield.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 14, 2017 14:07:48 GMT -5
Am I wrong, or does the multiplier only apply to student-athletes that come from outside the "designated" home school district? Wouldn't anyone from th eMCS be not counted as a multiplier? Just asking. I think your miscalculation comes from the equation you use (5 x 2 x X). The 2 should not be in the equation. THE "multiplier" is 5, the number chosen by the OHSAA to multiply by X, the total number of players on the Varsity, JV and Freshman teams that came into the school system at the start of the 9th grade or later. Added to that total is the number of players on the 3 aforementioned teams that came into the school system in the 7th or 8th grades. If a player on those 3 teams came into the school system before the 7th grade, nothing is added to the final total number. That total will be added to the number boys in 9th through 11th grade in October the prior year. That final number determines what Division the Varsity team plays in. The "sucks" part is if in DI, nothing happens, you can't be put into a higher Division. If in the middle or lower end of DII, DIII or DIV you won't be moved up a Division unless you have a very large number of players that came into your school system in the 9th grade or later. The only schools that will be affected are the ones with a number close to the next higher Division prior to the Multiplier being added. Thus a program with a lot of "transfers" won't move up, but a program with only a couple will be moved up.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 4:33:24 GMT -5
I'm curious to see how the CB formula affects the divisions over all. I could see the OHSAA taking a look at Basketball like they did football and making a separate large school division.
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Post by Hagen on Mar 15, 2017 11:15:29 GMT -5
Mans. St. Peters 72-45 North Baltimore Regional Final: vs. Delphos St. Johns, 7p Friday at Univ. of Toledo Bracket: < OHSAA: Division 4>
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 15, 2017 15:17:07 GMT -5
#1 McDonald and #2 St.Pete are the only 2 of the AP top 20 left in their side of the bracket. They would meet in the State Semi-Finals. In the other bracket only #10 Portsmouth Clay and #11 Grove CityChristian are still playing.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2017 3:46:18 GMT -5
Just purchased my tickets to see St Pete next week.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 7:35:59 GMT -5
Just purchased my tickets to see St. John's next week. Fixed it for you Scotty
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 12:13:30 GMT -5
Just purchased my tickets to see St Pete next week. I guess I was a little early on making this claim. I may still go down to the game.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 19, 2017 19:32:19 GMT -5
St.Pete got beat by a bigger recruiter in St.Johns
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 20:00:35 GMT -5
St.Pete got beat by a bigger recruiter in St.Johns Fail...all of St. John's players are from Delphos. Stick to being Balogh's groupie
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 20:17:55 GMT -5
St.Pete got beat by a bigger recruiter in St.Johns Fail...all of St. John's players are from Delphos. Stick to being Balogh's groupie bighoss, DSJ is no stranger to winning and competes regularly for the MAC title. They have historically had a strong program for a smaller private school being able to field full rosters on five teams at every level from 7th to varsity. Plus wouldn't they have to get all 5 starters to do it better than MSP.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 20, 2017 1:25:49 GMT -5
St.Pete got beat by a bigger recruiter in St.Johns Fail...all of St. John's players are from Delphos. Stick to being Balogh's groupie Ask those from Jefferson. Lifetime failure, drag on society.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 8:20:51 GMT -5
Fail...all of St. John's players are from Delphos. Stick to being Balogh's groupie Ask those from Jefferson. Lifetime failure, drag on society. 99% (estimate) of St. John's students start in Kindergarten and go there all the way through high school.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 20, 2017 13:02:32 GMT -5
You have relatives from Delphos, like I do?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 14:21:59 GMT -5
You have relatives from Delphos, like I do? Nope, friends. Sounds like your "relatives" are just butt hurt that Jefferson's academics and athletics are below St. John's
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 20, 2017 14:38:00 GMT -5
Why do all of your posts include references to body parts? Further explains your lack of intellect.
Let's see if your small mind knows the answer to this question and it's significance. Outside of Lima Central Catholic, What are the closest Catholic Schools to Delphos, all directions?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 14:58:27 GMT -5
Why do all of your posts include references to body parts? Further explains your lack of intellect. Let's see if your small mind knows the answer to this question and it's significance. Outside of Lima Central Catholic, What are the closest Catholic Schools to Delphos, all directions? 1)Because I know it bothers an Air Max Monarch wearer like yourself 2) West I would say Bishop Leurs in Fort Wayne, South either Springfield Central or Kettering Alter (maybe Carroll), North and East St. Wendelin. This is where you say that St. John's has an unfair advantage of being the only catholic school excluding Lima Catholic in the area. What you fail to realize that in this area most of the communities are Catholic and the families believe in the traditions of the public schools/communities they live in. Move on because there is no way you can win this argument, because what I have stated is fact. And knowing the hard working, beer drinking people of western Ohio they would break you for saying else wise.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 20, 2017 22:16:25 GMT -5
1) Further proves you ignorance. I don't purchase any shoe, regardless of what the sole is made of, for less than $100.
Don't tell untruths. I dare you to show us where I said St. John has an unfair advantage of any type.
Do you want to bet $1000, that as you said, 99% of all St. John students in high school are from Delphos and were there in kindergarten? PLEASE PLEASE do, I can have someone ask Father, who does not tell untruths. He would also tell you that those like you with so much hate in their hearts will end up in purgatory.
BTW, this isn't an argument, I wouldn't lower myself to the level of someone with an ignorant ugly mouth like yours.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 22:30:22 GMT -5
St.Pete got beat by a bigger recruiter in St.Johns Fail...all of St. John's players are from Delphos. Stick to being Balogh's groupie bighoss, the Catholic church is a big part of the public schools in most of the small communities in that region of the state, public or private. But to claim DSJ recruits bigger than MSP is bold, unproven and probably a lie when we all know MSP has 4 of 5 starters who did not attend middle school in the system. Plus, I understand you only estimated the percentage of high schoolers who attended K at DSJ but that number may be a little to high.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 20, 2017 22:35:38 GMT -5
A bigger "lie" is to say that 99% of all students in the St. Johns school system are from Delphos and have been in it since kindergarten.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 6:45:27 GMT -5
1) Further proves you ignorance. I don't purchase any shoe, regardless of what the sole is made of, for less than $100. Don't tell untruths. I dare you to show us where I said St. John has an unfair advantage of any type. Do you want to bet $1000, that as you said, 99% of all St. John students in high school are from Delphos and were there in kindergarten? PLEASE PLEASE do, I can have someone ask Father, who does not tell untruths. He would also tell you that those like you with so much hate in their hearts will end up in purgatory. BTW, this isn't an argument, I wouldn't lower myself to the level of someone with an ignorant ugly mouth like yours. Good for you on your shoe purchases. Clearly you have no idea how to read. When I said "this is where you say" I am implying that that is what your response is going to to be. The 99% is hyperbole. Notice I put estimate after the 99%? I have no idea what the number is, but i do know that all the basketball players are from Delphos, which is the point of your ignorant post about St John's being a bigger recruiter than St Pete's. Most of St Pete's starting 5 that didn't set foot in St Pete's until high school. I don't hate anyone, but it's really funny how important you think you are to this world. Your narcissistic personality is going to get you dumped in purgatory, but you don't believe that because you're a narcissist and never wrong
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 21, 2017 16:11:31 GMT -5
You brought up shoes to make a silly insult.
You have NO idea what my response is going to be, unless you're a cyberspace mentalist. You obviously didn't know what my response was going to be.
Your disdain won't allow you to see the obvious. My succinct unsupported comment was made to get those of your ilk all riled up? SUCCESS!
My position has always been that there is A LOT less recruiting going by private schools and public schools with a lot of open enrollment students than their haters think.
One is only as "important" as perceived by others
I admit to being wrong more than you do. Your superiority complex won't allow you to see it.
Thanks for playin
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 17:53:17 GMT -5
You can believe what you want. One thing you can't argue is that you are an old douche bag
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 21, 2017 19:17:18 GMT -5
"The Power To Know" is what I believe in.
You would be the one with ignorant ugly mouth, you just proved it again.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 20:41:01 GMT -5
bighoss, stop playing his games and your time on this site will improve. Block feature works well.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 21:08:58 GMT -5
bighoss, stop playing his games and your time on this site will improve. Block feature works well. Not really playing a game. He made a comment that Delphos St John's is a bigger recruiter than St Pete's, which couldn't be more false. I called him out on it and he's cried like a little *****. Actually feel sorry for his husband that has to listen to never ending arguments.
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Post by deathfromabove on Mar 21, 2017 21:59:29 GMT -5
bighoss, 1st, thing Fort Wayne Bishop Leurs is to far away to even come close to evading into Delphos St.John's area, they are on the south side of Fort Wayne. It's the same thing with Springfield and they will have to go through Lima and I,m pretty sure LCC will have something to say about that. Now you got Fostoria St. Wendy, I do believe you have to go through Finlay to get to St. Wendy and they are also having trouble with student enrollment and if they close Tiffin Calvert and Fremont St. Joe's will be fighting for their student's to come to their school. And to the north of Delphos their is no Catholic high school. So there you have it. Delphos St. John's has no other Catholic high school near them other than LCC. So they can and do invade into Ottoville, Fort Jennings, Kalida, Columbus Grove, Spencerville, and others. I do know what I'm talking about because I do have relations who live in that area and we are Catholic's and they say Delphos St. John's does recruit.
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