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Post by jmorgret07 on Feb 28, 2017 18:51:38 GMT -5
Port Clinton: 27 Ontario: 24 HALFTIME
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Post by mrsteel on Feb 28, 2017 19:28:32 GMT -5
Ontario-56 PC-42 F
PC had a 5 pt lead early in the 3rd Qt.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Feb 28, 2017 19:43:36 GMT -5
Sandusky Perkins 77 Mansfield Madison 49 Final
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Feb 28, 2017 20:41:57 GMT -5
Bellevue 23 Clyde 18 half
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Post by mrsteel on Feb 28, 2017 21:13:01 GMT -5
Shelby was leading Norwalk 31-18 at half. Norwalk is up 6 late.
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Post by mrsteel on Feb 28, 2017 21:23:49 GMT -5
Norwalk-61 Shelby-53 F
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Feb 28, 2017 21:23:56 GMT -5
Bellevue 50 Clyde 46 Final
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Post by portwalk on Feb 28, 2017 21:26:12 GMT -5
Norwalk wins 61-53... According to WF this rarely if ever happens. Yet Gray has done it again Roll on
Example: Cut and paste from prior WF post "If Vermilion, Lexington and Sandusky all lose starters to injuries, then giving Ontario an outside chance for a District Title......"
Upsets happen
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Post by portwalk on Feb 28, 2017 21:35:57 GMT -5
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Post by portwalk on Feb 28, 2017 21:36:38 GMT -5
Ontario-56 PC-42 F PC had a 5 pt lead early in the 3rd Qt. Another NOL win over the SBC in it's final season
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Post by fanofthegame on Feb 28, 2017 21:43:07 GMT -5
Norwalk wins 61-53... According to WF this rarely if ever happens. Yet Gray has done it again Roll on Example: Cut and paste from prior WF post "If Vermilion, Lexington and Sandusky all lose starters to injuries, then giving Ontario an outside chance for a District Title......" Upsets happen Not an apples to apples comparison. Norwalk regained a pretty good player late in the season and he's gotten a few games under his belt. WF doesn't just say it. Facts and stats say it. A team that wins twice is likely to win the third time. A higher seed is more likely to beat a lower. These are facts. Of course there are exceptions.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 28, 2017 21:48:07 GMT -5
Norwalk wins 61-53... According to WF this rarely if ever happens. Yet Gray has done it again Roll on Example: Cut and paste from prior WF post "If Vermilion, Lexington and Sandusky all lose starters to injuries, then giving Ontario an outside chance for a District Title......" Upsets happen You speak untruths again, PAY ATTENTION....I said THREE upsets in a row rarely happen. Norwalk needs three more wins in a row against higher seeds to win a District Title. Ontario needs three wins in a row against higher seeds to win a District Title. If either or both happens it would be a rarity. INDEED upsets happen, do you need to ask Coach Gray what happened in Ontario's first game in the NOL against Norwalk?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 28, 2017 21:54:01 GMT -5
Norwalk wins 61-53... According to WF this rarely if ever happens. Yet Gray has done it again Roll on Example: Cut and paste from prior WF post "If Vermilion, Lexington and Sandusky all lose starters to injuries, then giving Ontario an outside chance for a District Title......" Upsets happen Not an apples to apples comparison. Norwalk regained a pretty good player late in the season and he's gotten a few games under his belt. WF doesn't just say it. Facts and stats say it. A team that wins twice is likely to win the third time. A higher seed is more likely to beat a lower. These are facts. Of course there are exceptions. Port, is the exception. He is incapable of comprehending that 3 wins in a row against higher seeds is a rarity
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Post by portwalk on Feb 28, 2017 22:01:02 GMT -5
2011 - Madison District Champ beat higher seeds Lexington, Edison and Shelby to WIN a title...
Guess it was a miracle...
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Post by portwalk on Feb 28, 2017 22:07:24 GMT -5
Also would Ontario beating Vermillion, Lexington and Sandusky be that big of an upset ANY of them. Vermillion is out of the SBC, Lexington is heading in the wrong direction, Sandusky barely beat TC (bad team)and then got bounced by double digits by Shelby...
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 28, 2017 22:11:59 GMT -5
Ontario-56 PC-42 F PC had a 5 pt lead early in the 3rd Qt. 3-pointers quit falling for PC in the 2nd half after the 28 foot fade away jumper that beat the halftime buzzer. Ontario played better defense in the 2nd half, they were terrible on their pick and roll defense in the first half. If a coach has never played zone in his coaching career he should play one against Ontario, they are not a very good 3 point shooting team. On the other hand if Ontario has a 5 point lead, they should hold the ball at half court until the opponent comes out of their zone. Allowing Ontario's good sized and athletic guards to drive to the basket, which they are much better at. I don't mind winning 35-30. In the past 2 games Ontario has gone to a 4 guard offense instead of their normal 2 post offense rotating their 6-7 and two 6-4 players. It has seemed to activate the team in both game.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 28, 2017 22:13:53 GMT -5
2011 - Madison District Champ beat higher seeds Lexington, Edison and Shelby to WIN a title... Guess it was a miracle... No, just a rarity. If not rare you could list dozens of examples.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 28, 2017 22:43:56 GMT -5
Also would Ontario beating Vermillion, Lexington and Sandusky be that big of an upset ANY of them. Vermillion is out of the SBC, Lexington is heading in the wrong direction, Sandusky barely beat TC (bad team)and then got bounced by double digits by Shelby... There you go again, saying the coaches in the seeding meeting are stupid. What makes you so much smarter than them?? If you beat a higher seed you have accomplished something. Your blathering is denigrating all teams that beat higher seeds. Including Norwalk tonight. AGAIN it isn't supposed to happen, it rarely happens 3 times in a row. Vermilion is an SBC Title winner. Did you see what SBC Perkins did to OCC Madison tonight? Lexington beat Ontario AT Ontario in the regular season. Why would you bother looking at Lexington's late season schedule before putting them down? Shelby beat Sandusky without their 2nd best player. Did he sit out the game with TC? When Shelby is hitting their 3-pointers then can beat anyone in this District, when they're not they can lose to Norwalk. Sandusky beat Ontario twice in the regular season by 14 and 20, don't be doltish. Once again, I answer all the questions you asked me. When are you going to answer the questions I've asked you. Be a man, stop being a weasel.
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Post by portwalk on Feb 28, 2017 22:57:50 GMT -5
This is why it is tough to have a conversation with you it always seems to end with a name-call...I will answer any question asked... I saw what Perkins did what does that have to do with the conversation. I also watched them go into OT with Norwalk. Did not put Lexington down they have sputtered down the stretch .500 record after a hot start littered with BAD losses. Does it matter TC is NOT good and Shelby just loss to Norwalk... Doltish? Sandusky is the most difficult task of the 3 however if OHS wants to WIN a D2 district maybe they need to win one they shouldn't...
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Post by Skip Bayless on Feb 28, 2017 22:59:09 GMT -5
Well Shannon Sharp looks like we have all kinds of things to talk about. the Bottom dweller of the SBC Port Clinton had District Joe's team on the ropes for 3 1/2 quarters. I dont know how that happens.
Perkins beat the living hell out of OCC Madison. How's that happen.
Maybe they been listening too much to these corndogs on this site Shannon. Lets talk about it on Undisputed!
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 28, 2017 23:11:04 GMT -5
This is why it is tough to have a conversation with you it always seems to end with a name-call...I will answer any question asked... I saw what Perkins did what does that have to do with the conversation. I also watched them go into OT with Norwalk. Did not put Lexington down they have sputtered down the stretch .500 record after a hot start littered with BAD losses. Does it matter TC is NOT good and Shelby just loss to Norwalk... Doltish? Sandusky is the most difficult task of the 3 however if OHS wants to WIN a D2 district maybe they need to win one they shouldn't... Well do it, don't just say you will. Go back through these 2 threads, look for all the questions and make a post answering them. Tell me, what would you call someone who says a team SHOULD beat a team that they already lost to by 14 and 20? Come on. LOOK what you said about Vermilion, you say they should be beaten JUST because they're an SBC team. YES, you put down Lex. So many put downs so easily roll off your tongue you don't even notice. AGAIN look at their schedule, have you yet?? NO, you doltishly say Ontario SHOULD beat higher seed Vermilion. SHOULD beat #2 Seed Lex who has already beaten Ontario AT Ontario. SHOULD beat Sandusky who has already beaten Ontario by 14 and 20. SHOULD beat 3 higher seeds in a row, which you have proven is a rarity. it's not a rarity for Ontario to win District Titles. You're not good at answering questions or doing research. Here's your as*ignment, tell us how many.
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Feb 28, 2017 23:28:35 GMT -5
I am prefacing my post with this: When I type the word p@ss the websiste puts "butt" in over the A-word. There's gotta be a way around that, right? Willard High School was on my way to Galion, so I went to the first three quarters of the Perkins/Madison game before going to the Shelby game tonight. Perkins played more inspired and sharp than Madison. Perkins' offense look very smooth, with the players running hard cuts and getting some nice "Spurs-esque" pbutting for baskets. Also, Madison had noooo answer for #22 on Perkins. He got 2 fouls early in the first quarter and did not come again until the second quarter. Within the opening minutes of the third quarter, #22 had 21 points and one impressive dunk. Madison just looked...sluggish. I have no clue what their offense is, but it seemed unusual to me. I'm not going to do a great job of explaining it, but they would have players cut along the baseline from one corner to the other and then run around the three point line again. However, they would occasionally get three guys floating around in the corner (and in crummy rebounding position) which let Perkins pick off a lot of pbuttes. As for the Shelby/Norwalk game...goodness Norwalk started off the half on a 13-0 run to eliminate their 13 point halftime deficit and ended up going on a 30-8 run. Shelby played patiently to get open looks but they never really came. I also think Norwalk had four straight possessions where they had a traditional three point play.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 28, 2017 23:36:22 GMT -5
Well Shannon Sharp looks like we have all kinds of things to talk about. the Bottom dweller of the SBC Port Clinton had District Joe's team on the ropes for 3 1/2 quarters. I dont know how that happens. Perkins beat the living hell out of OCC Madison. How's that happen. Maybe they been listening too much to these corndogs on this site Shannon. Lets talk about it on Undisputed! On the ropes? How many Ontario games in the past 30 years has Ontario been down big at halftime and still won big? Ask Shannon, I know you don't know. In this game Ontario was down 3 at half time. The game was never in doubt. Perkins just got done easily beating eventual State Champ Huron, Perkins is on a roll.
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Post by mrsteel on Mar 1, 2017 0:02:20 GMT -5
Ontario-56 PC-42 F PC had a 5 pt lead early in the 3rd Qt. 3-pointers quit falling for PC in the 2nd half after the 28 foot fade away jumper that beat the halftime buzzer. Ontario played better defense in the 2nd half, they were terrible on their pick and roll defense in the first half. If a coach has never played zone in his coaching career he should play one against Ontario, they are not a very good 3 point shooting team. On the other hand if Ontario has a 5 point lead, they should hold the ball at half court until the opponent comes out of their zone. Allowing Ontario's good sized and athletic guards to drive to the basket, which they are much better at. I don't mind winning 35-30. In the past 2 games Ontario has gone to a 4 guard offense instead of their normal 2 post offense rotating their 6-7 and two 6-4 players. It has seemed to activate the team in both game. Ontario quit jacking 3s and started to take it to the rim to get the old fashion 3 point play. They were like 3-15 in the first half from 3 point land.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2017 0:12:42 GMT -5
Ontario quit jacking 3s and started to take it to the rim to get the old fashion 3 point play. They were like 3-15 in the first half from 3 point land. Is it true that PC was playing without their best player? At 4-18 with their best guy out(if true) this score seems very close.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2017 6:25:28 GMT -5
Perkins is playing solid basketball, I see them beating Huron by 15 and Sandusky by 8. The only way I see Sandusky beating Perkins is if both Williams score 20 plus and that is a question mark due to K. Williams injury.
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Post by portwalk on Mar 1, 2017 6:50:25 GMT -5
This is why it is tough to have a conversation with you it always seems to end with a name-call...I will answer any question asked... I saw what Perkins did what does that have to do with the conversation. I also watched them go into OT with Norwalk. Did not put Lexington down they have sputtered down the stretch .500 record after a hot start littered with BAD losses. Does it matter TC is NOT good and Shelby just loss to Norwalk... Doltish? Sandusky is the most difficult task of the 3 however if OHS wants to WIN a D2 district maybe they need to win one they shouldn't... it's not a rarity for Ontario to win District Titles. You're not good at answering questions or doing research. Here's your as*ignment, tell us how many. 0 in the Division they are playing in..
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Post by portwalk on Mar 1, 2017 6:52:23 GMT -5
If Perkins gets solid guard play they will be a tough out...
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Post by dump on Mar 1, 2017 8:32:47 GMT -5
Well, well, well.. The Pirates dump all over Mighty Madison, who Willard claimed was sooo good because of their schedule. Time to stop sleeping on the SBC. Perkins is a good ball club. And they barely beat Huron in their last game, they didn't "easily beat them" Huron was winning until the start of the 4th. It will be a great game against the Pirates. Huron will win. They did not play well in the last game against the Pirates. The SBC is 10x better conference than the NOL this year. All the NOL has in Sandusky, and Ontario is alright. SBC has three solid teams, all capable of winning this district. You will see this as the games go on. Very excited for the Huron/Perkins clash coming up. When's the last time these two have played a meaningful game against each other in the playoffs? Should be fun, Pirates should dump it.
GO Tigers
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2017 8:53:50 GMT -5
0 in the Division they are playing in.. They may have won 7-8 in 75 years of basketball.
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