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Post by sportsjock on Jan 27, 2017 17:43:42 GMT -5
When Jackson played he was a man among boys for the positions he played. That would not be the case today. Not exactly sure what you are implying, but JJ was one of the greatest players to ever don a Buckeye uniform. 1989-1992 or Today, still a man among boys. JJ + 4" of height = Magic Johnson, or a pretty close equivalent.
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Post by DrTorch on Jan 27, 2017 18:14:14 GMT -5
When Jackson played he was a man among boys for the positions he played. That would not be the case today. 'til he visited Willard, OH :+)
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Post by DrTorch on Jan 27, 2017 18:16:36 GMT -5
When Jackson played he was a man among boys for the positions he played. That would not be the case today. Not exactly sure what you are implying, but JJ was one of the greatest players to ever don a Buckeye uniform. 1989-1992 or Today, still a man among boys. JJ + 4" of height = Magic Johnson, or a pretty close equivalent. nah, JJ would have been a shorter Moses Malone because i've never seen anyone except Moses rebound his own miss and then score as often as Jim Jackson did in college i honestly think they had a play drawn up that called for Jackson to drive and throw up anything that touched rim just so he could rebound it in a better scoring position and hit the bunny
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 27, 2017 22:30:35 GMT -5
When Jackson played he was a man among boys for the positions he played. That would not be the case today. 'til he visited Willard, OH :+) not implying anything, stating a fact. In HS he was 6-5 230 guard, all muscle. A MAN playing against skinning little boys. Even in college I had never seen anyone 6-5 that was built like him AND he learned to play PG.
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Post by sportsjock on Jan 28, 2017 0:58:13 GMT -5
'til he visited Willard, OH :+) not implying anything, stating a fact. In HS he was 6-5 230 guard, all muscle. A MAN playing against skinning little boys. Even in college I had never seen anyone 6-5 that was built like him AND he learned to play PG. He learned to play point guard at a very early age. Played the position all through high school. As Torch pointed out, his follow up shot was exceptional. As with most players of his elite status, he was a prolific passer that elevated the play of all those around him. In 1986 I sent a personal letter to Gary Williams concerning Jim Jackson. I offered my insight on this kid, since I had seen him play, starting as a grade schooler. I received a personal, hand written letter from Gary a week later. He said getting a commitment from JJ was his highest priority and agreed with me, this kid was a franchise player. It was no surprise, he didn't disappoint, achieving Big Ten and National 'Player of the Year'.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 28, 2017 12:59:49 GMT -5
Mark Baker came to Ohio State in the same class as Jackson. Baker was the starting PG and Jackson played off guard. Jackson was the back up PG when Baker needed rest or got in foul trouble. Or when a mismatch at PG was thought be advantageous, at a crucial point in a game.
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Post by sportsjock on Jan 28, 2017 14:27:06 GMT -5
Mark Baker came to Ohio State in the same class as Jackson. Baker was the starting PG and Jackson played off guard. Jackson was the back up PG when Baker needed rest or got in foul trouble. Or when a mismatch at PG was thought be advantageous, at a crucial point in a game. You are right about that. Not sure JJ ever started at point guard at OSU or for any of the 12 NBA teams he played for, usually SG or PF.
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Post by DrTorch on Jan 28, 2017 20:41:07 GMT -5
'til he visited Willard, OH :+) not implying anything, stating a fact. In HS he was 6-5 230 guard, all muscle. A MAN playing against skinning little boys. Even in college I had never seen anyone 6-5 that was built like him AND he learned to play PG. i know what he looked like in HS boss, i was there when the Crimson Flashes pounded JJ and Toledo Macumber penitentiary style
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Post by 4 on Jan 29, 2017 5:10:28 GMT -5
Last nights loss was bad. Iowa didn't even have there leading scorer. That loss. Or 1 more loss. Will knock them out of the madness.
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Post by sportsjock on Jan 29, 2017 13:59:32 GMT -5
not implying anything, stating a fact. In HS he was 6-5 230 guard, all muscle. A MAN playing against skinning little boys. Even in college I had never seen anyone 6-5 that was built like him AND he learned to play PG. i know what he looked like in HS boss, i was there when the Crimson Flashes pounded JJ and Toledo Macumber penitentiary style But Macomber-Whitney and Jim Jackson grabbed the gold ring in 1989, winning the Div. I State Championship, while amassing 27-1 record. JJ won his second consecutive 'Ohio Mr. Basketball' that year. Huge in his development was a great coach and mentor...Bart Schroeder. Macomber was not a one man team, but very deep and talented with 6-8 Ed Colbert standing at center. Jackson followed the lead of another Macomber and Ohio State great, Kelvin Lindsay to play for the Buckeyes at St. John Arena.
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Post by DrTorch on Jan 29, 2017 14:25:58 GMT -5
Mark Baker came to Ohio State in the same class as Jackson. Baker was the starting PG and Jackson played off guard. Jackson was the back up PG when Baker needed rest or got in foul trouble. Or when a mismatch at PG was thought be advantageous, at a crucial point in a game. watched Mark Baker jump over a dude and dunk in St. John's Arena during OHSAA, when he was with Dayton Dunbar...kid was a badace
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Post by sportsjock on Jan 29, 2017 14:44:28 GMT -5
Mark Baker came to Ohio State in the same class as Jackson. Baker was the starting PG and Jackson played off guard. Jackson was the back up PG when Baker needed rest or got in foul trouble. Or when a mismatch at PG was thought be advantageous, at a crucial point in a game. watched Mark Baker jump over a dude and dunk in St. John's Arena during OHSAA, when he was with Dayton Dunbar...kid was a badace Amazing. Still, one my greatest OHSAA memories, was 6-10 Barry Sonnenberg stealing the ball, driving the length of the court and throwing down a thunderous slam, in the final moments of Napoleon's epic 28-0 season. Talk about a final exclamation point on a masterpiece of a season.
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Post by buckeyekid on Jan 29, 2017 16:37:26 GMT -5
Kelvin Ransey not Linsdey,,one of my favorites too. I saw and witnessed the Sonnenberg dunk also. Once they got past Willard in BG, they rolled the teams at St.John.
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Post by sportsjock on Jan 29, 2017 19:20:42 GMT -5
Kelvin Ransey not Linsdey,,one of my favorites too. I saw and witnessed the Sonnenberg dunk also. Once they got past Willard in BG, they rolled the teams at St.John. Of Course I meant kelvin Ransey......did I actually say lindsey??? I think the Wildcats were the best team in Ohio that year, any division.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Feb 4, 2017 20:25:36 GMT -5
Buckeyes get a nice road win at Michigan
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Post by sportsjock on Feb 9, 2017 14:15:21 GMT -5
Buckeyes avoid the upset to Rutgers. Some atrocious, late game officiating kept Rutgers in it in the waning moments IMO.
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Post by buckeyekid on Feb 10, 2017 12:52:39 GMT -5
Add in 2017-2018 Kaleb Wesson Brax Beverly KBD healthy Jaquan Lyle Healthy Derek Funderburke Matta isn't getting fired, resign small % chance--- With everyone back minus Loving,,,this team will be Top 3 in Big 10 imo
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Post by tommygunn on Feb 14, 2017 19:39:49 GMT -5
I think TM is close to being canned at OSU.
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Post by DrTorch on Feb 14, 2017 23:04:51 GMT -5
it's getting long the list of players who can't seem to play for him
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Post by 4 on Feb 23, 2017 23:24:18 GMT -5
Ohio state beats #16 Wisconsin by 10. Solid team effort and the energy was there. Thought I picked a bad game to go to but the schott was rocking and a good buckeye victory.
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Post by sportsjock on Feb 24, 2017 15:23:54 GMT -5
Buckeyes finally put together a complete game. Great offensive movement, tenacious defense and outstanding shooting, especially at the freethrow line. Think this might have saved Matta's existence at Ohio State. Always thought this team is lacking a point guard, but the outstanding performance by Jackson, that shortcoming may be answered.
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Post by buckeyekid on Feb 24, 2017 18:02:56 GMT -5
I thought for the first time all year---like you said "complete game" Both halves---game not as close as the score showed which was OSU by 10.
Watched CJ in the handshake line---huge smile and grin. In fact all the guys were pretty stoked. This was the team that almost beat Virgina on the road, and played right with UCLA for most of the game.
This team is better than their record, I could easily see them winning 2-3 games in the Big10 tourney and/or because of inconsistent play---lose the 1st one.
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Post by DrTorch on Feb 24, 2017 18:56:33 GMT -5
Matta 2-12 in his last 14 vs ranked opponents.
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Post by sportsjock on Feb 25, 2017 7:04:09 GMT -5
This game was instrumental in the confidence department. What I've been seeing most of the season, is a team going through the motions. This game they looked relaxed, confident and focused. Bet their practice sessions from here on out, will have a whole different intensity. Still can't get over how they were stroking em at the free throw line, an area that has killed a lot of potential wins this year. Gotta think Matta had them spending O.T. working on free throw shooting. When I played, my coach kept charts on a free throw regimen at the end of practice, so you could see measurable results.
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Post by buckeyekid on Feb 25, 2017 8:06:36 GMT -5
The more I read the more I think the Admin at OSU will give Matta another year to right the ship. I really think we'll be a better team next year. A lot better. The two recruits are having great seasons Beverly and Wesson,,,and we know what KBD can do when healthy. Funderburk is a bit of an unknown as he was redshirted--that one still puzzles especially with KBD being down,,,oh well. There has been improvement individually, but getting every player to play well nightly has been a chore. Loving is a good shooter but he is such a liability in other areas like defense and that really hurts the team. Lyle to a degree is the same,,just doesn't have the quicks to be a good defensive guard.It Makes you really appreciate what Aaron Craft did on defense as a guard. He was a force on defense,,,but needed scorers around him to make the team win a lot of games.
I see this version of OSU as an incomplete team. They do well in some areas that they could be very good, but in other areas they are so lacking that it costs them games that they could have certainly won. This year alone--- 6-7 games I would say we played well enough to win, but down the stretch we were just lacking something that in previous years we had. The internal toughness to make plays in the final 2-3 minutes just was not there this season.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 25, 2017 13:05:46 GMT -5
Ohio State has no leader, like Craft was. NO ONE who WANTS to take a big shot, like Turner did. All you need to know is they have a 6-4 power forward. Which is uncommon for even DIII schools.
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Post by buckeyekid on Feb 25, 2017 13:28:04 GMT -5
I'll take Tate as a really nice role player at OSU any day, in spite of being 6'4,,,,,but you are right--we have No one who wants the ball in his hands in the last 7 seconds of the game. I would have guessed Lyle to be that guy, but to date--late in the game he just isn't Mr Clutch.
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Post by DrTorch on Feb 25, 2017 13:31:31 GMT -5
Ohio State has no leader, like Craft was. NO ONE who WANTS to take a big shot, like Turner did. All you need to know is they have a 6-4 power forward. Which is uncommon for even DIII schools. Craft wasn't a leader he was a self-absorbed punk who got caught up in his overhyped press clippings, if he had been black instead of white then everyone would have seen how bad he truly sucked. Is he operating on brains yet? Gtfooh.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 19:03:06 GMT -5
Ohio State has no leader, like Craft was. NO ONE who WANTS to take a big shot, like Turner did. All you need to know is they have a 6-4 power forward. Which is uncommon for even DIII schools. Craft wasn't a leader he was a self-absorbed punk who got caught up in his overhyped press clippings, if he had been black instead of white then everyone would have seen how bad he truly sucked. Is he operating on brains yet? Gtfooh. This couldn't be further from the truth
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Post by DrTorch on Feb 25, 2017 19:55:18 GMT -5
hit a free throw
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