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Post by DrTorch on May 4, 2017 16:41:46 GMT -5
is there a qb on our roster who wouldn't be 1st team all big 10?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on May 4, 2017 18:19:27 GMT -5
UH....not only "1st team all big 10", but was ALSO voted THE BEST Player In The Big Ten, offense AND defense. That means THE BEST player over all other 21 positions. Urban Meyer coaches, trains and expects greatness from of ALL of his players. His offense and TEAM concepts can create system QBs of note. Urban Meyer recruits Top 10 QB's in the country EVERY year! IF his TEAM is Top Ten in the country. His TEAM will allow his QB to reach pinnacles of success. THE point that needs noting. A great QB does not make a TEAM great, there are 99 other players on the TEAM. However, a great TEAM can garner success for its QB.
I will be surprised if Joe Burrow isn't "1st team all big 10" in 2018.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on May 4, 2017 18:41:07 GMT -5
and their qbs all sucked, u urself dogged them all season long I don't "dog" like you the "dog" warden "dogs". Over the past 3 years Ohio State opponents have had 2 QBs drafted in the 1st round, 2 QBs drafted in the 2nd round, 1 QB drafted in the 3rd round, 1 QB drafted in the 4th round, 1 QB drafted in the 6th round, 1 QB drafted in the 7th round. Do those NINE drafted QBs "suck"? "Noodle are hog ball" beat 90% of those QBs. How is that possible? Allow me to enlighten. It Takes more than 1 out 100 players and 10 coaches to lose a game. The same holds true for winning games.
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Post by DrTorch on May 4, 2017 19:40:47 GMT -5
what team accomplishments has Barrett led us to? you are just supporting Rambo McClain's assertion that Barrett is a ballhog seeking individual glory
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Post by DrTorch on May 4, 2017 19:41:31 GMT -5
name the nine qbs
hackenberg and connor cook's backup suck
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Post by tommygunn on May 5, 2017 5:54:21 GMT -5
Complete ball hog JT is. He likes to run and he isn't real good at it. OSU will be in trouble throughout the year against good teams if JT continues to do what JT does.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2017 9:25:38 GMT -5
ESPN Total QB Ratings QBR for JT 2016 = 45th and 3rd in BIG TEN 2015 = 18th and 3rd in BIG TEN 2014 = 2nd and 1st in BIG TEN
Looks like the better he knows the system the more he drops. May have to flip to the second or third page to find him after 2017. I sure hope not.
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Post by Rambo McClain on May 5, 2017 10:51:27 GMT -5
^^^ Good stuff on how JT is regressing as a QB, he's getting really bad.
JT Barrett ball hogs it, doesn't trust any of his teammates, and never lets them have a chance to make a play Cardale Jones trusted his teammates and let those 4 & 5 star teammates make plays
Watch how JT kills OSU when he ball hogs it, and how OSU thrives when JT actually plays like a good teammate. 2014 vs VT - JT led the team in carries (24), 8 carries by Zeke ---- JT ball hogged it and OSU lost vs MSU - Zeke led the team in carries & NOT JT, 23 carries by Zeke -- JT shared the ball and OSU won 2015 vs MSU - JT led the team in carries, 12 carries by Zeke -- JT ball hogged it and OSU lost vs ND - Zeke led the team in carries & NOT JT, 27 carries by Zeke -- JT shared the ball and OSU won 2016 vs OU - Weber led the team in carries & NOT JT, 18 carries by Weber -- JT shared the ball and OSU won
Last 3 games by JT vs a pathetic MSU team - JT led the team in carries (24), 14 carries by Weber -- JT ball hogged it and OSU had to squeak out a win vs 3-9 MSU - (Weber avg 7.9 ypc, yet JT wouldn't let him get the ball) vs Michigan - JT led the team in carries (30), 11 carries by Weber -- JT ball hogged it for 3 1/2 quarters and OSU stunk. JT let Curtis Samuel have the ball in OT (game winner) vs Clemson - JT led the team in carries, 5 carries by Weber -- JT ball hogged it and OSU scored 0 points
JT is a ball hog, and every time he ball hogs OSU loses or struggles to move the ball. When JT acts like Cardale and lets his teammates get involved those 4 & 5 star teammates light it up.
JT is a ball hog and lacks good decision making JT decided to drink & drive Cardale shared and trusted his teammates Cardale had to pick up drunk JT Barrett from jail Cardale was the ultimate teammate - That's why he led OSU to a National Championship
JT ball hogs, stalls the offense by hogging the ball, doesn't share and has some poor decision making. Don't forget his noodle arm, he doesn't throw it deep anymore
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Post by ronswanson on May 5, 2017 11:43:46 GMT -5
Wow I don't even know where to start reading. So I guess, go Bucks?
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Post by sportsjock on May 5, 2017 17:19:02 GMT -5
Wow I don't even know where to start reading. So I guess, go Bucks? Seeing you are a newby on here. Take any comments on here with a grain of salt. We have a good, knowledgeable group of debaters, driving their points across. All well and good, but the problems arise when we resort to demeaning language and personal insults. Makes for entertaining reading material, but so unecessary. GO Bucks!
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Post by Willard Fillmore on May 5, 2017 20:02:37 GMT -5
Complete ball hog JT is. He likes to run and he isn't real good at it. OSU will be in trouble throughout the year against good teams if JT continues to do what JT does. A lack of intellect concerning Urban Meyer "ball hogs". Obviously you are unaware that Urban Meyer did not have a 1000 yard tailback in his 2 years at BG, 2 years at Utah, 6 years at Florida, and first year at Ohio State. That's 11 straight years without a 1000 yard tailback. UNHEARD of in a run first offense. Urban's QBs have always been "ball hogs", EXCEPT in JT's 3 years. In 2014 OSU's tailback had 1925 yards, in 2015 OSU's tailback had 2040 yards, in 2016 OSU's tailbacks had 2199 yards. Close to or TWICE as many yards as JT in each year. Not knowledgeable at all when it comes "ball hogs".
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Post by Willard Fillmore on May 5, 2017 20:49:08 GMT -5
^^^ Good stuff on how JT is regressing as a QB, he's getting really bad. JT Barrett ball hogs it, doesn't trust any of his teammates, and never lets them have a chance to make a play Cardale Jones trusted his teammates and let those 4 & 5 star teammates make plays Watch how JT kills OSU when he ball hogs it, and how OSU thrives when JT actually plays like a good teammate. 2014 vs VT - JT led the team in carries (24), 8 carries by Zeke ---- JT ball hogged it and OSU lost vs MSU - Zeke led the team in carries & NOT JT, 23 carries by Zeke -- JT shared the ball and OSU won 2015 vs MSU - JT led the team in carries, 12 carries by Zeke -- JT ball hogged it and OSU lost vs ND - Zeke led the team in carries & NOT JT, 27 carries by Zeke -- JT shared the ball and OSU won 2016 vs OU - Weber led the team in carries & NOT JT, 18 carries by Weber -- JT shared the ball and OSU won Last 3 games by JT vs a pathetic MSU team - JT led the team in carries (24), 14 carries by Weber -- JT ball hogged it and OSU had to squeak out a win vs 3-9 MSU - (Weber avg 7.9 ypc, yet JT wouldn't let him get the ball) vs Michigan - JT led the team in carries (30), 11 carries by Weber -- JT ball hogged it for 3 1/2 quarters and OSU stunk. JT let Curtis Samuel have the ball in OT (game winner) vs Clemson - JT led the team in carries, 5 carries by Weber -- JT ball hogged it and OSU scored 0 points JT is a ball hog, and every time he ball hogs OSU loses or struggles to move the ball. When JT acts like Cardale and lets his teammates get involved those 4 & 5 star teammates light it up. JT is a ball hog and lacks good decision making JT decided to drink & drive Cardale shared and trusted his teammates Cardale had to pick up drunk JT Barrett from jail Cardale was the ultimate teammate - That's why he led OSU to a National Championship JT ball hogs, stalls the offense by hogging the ball, doesn't share and has some poor decision making. Don't forget his noodle arm, he doesn't throw it deep anymore You are embarrassingly not knowledgeable about "trust". Cardale didn't "trust" anyone AND the coaches didn't "trust" Cardale. Cardale was TOLD who to throw it to. Cardale was TOLD where to throw it. Cardale was NOT "trusted" with 90% of the pass plays in the playbook. Cardale was not "trusted" to run the ball. 50% of the running plays were taken out of the playbook. Cardale was ONLY "trusted" to hand the ball to Zeke. You are ignorant when it comes to "hogging". In Urban's first ELEVEN years as a head coach he did not have a 1000 yard tailback. In JT's 3 years the tailback had 1925 yards in 2014, 2040 yards in 2015 and tailbacks had 2199 yards in 2016. In each year Tailbacks had close to or double the yards JT had. In 2014 Tailbacks had 389 carries, JT 171. In 2015 Tailbacks had 289 carries, JT 115, in 2016 Tailbacks had 328 carrries, JT 205. Are you knowledgeable enough to know that the QB MUST run the ball a lot for URBAN MEYER'S SPREAD READ OPTION RUN FIRST OFFENSE to be successful?? BTW, who calls the plays? Another LIE. Half of JT's school Record 69 TD passes were thrown "downfield" between 15 and 45 yards IN THE AIR. Urban WOULD NOT have recruited Cardale. He is the square peg in the round hole of Urban's offense. If not for Jim Tressel giving Cardale one of the last scholarships in his class. He would not have been at OSU. Even then Tressel had to send him off to Fork Union Military Academy to get his grades up so he could be admitted to OSU AND to grow up so he wouldn't get in trouble at OSU. THEN.... the infamous tweet. "Why should we have to go to class if we came here to play FOOTBALL, we ain't come to play SCHOOL, classes are POINTLESS.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on May 5, 2017 20:59:08 GMT -5
name the nine qbs hackenberg and connor cook's backup suck Lazy Ars, you do the research I had to do.
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Post by 4 on May 5, 2017 22:29:02 GMT -5
I wouldn't waste the time writing some of the paragraphs you guys do lol.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 4:58:43 GMT -5
Wow I don't even know where to start reading. So I guess, go Bucks? Seeing you are a newby on here. Take any comments on here with a grain of salt. We have a good, knowledgeable group of debaters, driving their points across. All well and good, but the problems arise when we resort to demeaning language and personal insults.Makes for entertaining reading material, but so unecessary. GO Bucks!
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Post by Rambo McClain on May 6, 2017 6:47:21 GMT -5
This site needs to get the troll on here under control. Trolls are okay, but the troll on here lies, he just makes stuff up.
Fillmore told us all about how Connor Cook played vs OSU in 2015, how he ran slowly but ate up our Defense, etc. Only problem is that Conner Cook never played in that game. Fillmore told us that OSU had 22 yards rushing in the playoff game vs Clemson. One problem, OSU had 88 yards rushing in that game not 22. Once again he just made stuff up.
I'm 100% sure if I look up any stat he has put on here it is completely made up. I'm okay with trolls, but I think trolls that lie, just making stuff up as they go are very harmful to this site, completely brings down the credibility. Guys like Willard Fillmore spread fake stats while they troll. That should earn him a lifetime ban.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on May 6, 2017 15:12:20 GMT -5
Those who are ban worthy are those who aren't bright enough to know the definition of troll.
Lie by YOU!! At 2:30AM I confused the Conners. That was ALL you could come with. The other 99% of the stats and facts in the several posts were correct. If not, you would have found something more important and we would have heard about it. But all were heard? CRICKETS!! Lie by YOU!! Go back and read the post LIAR. You misquoted what I said. Here are the EXACT words. After the one 64 yard run, the other 22 rushes gained 24 yards. A FACT. Once again you are an out and out LIAR.
THE key is you say, "IF I look up stats." Don't be a worthless lazy ars. DO THE RESEARCH so you won't have to say "IF". You would become as learned as I.
HEY LIAR!! I've now have asked you this question 4 times and you FAIL TO ANSWER..Why??? ONCE AGAIN...How could a "noodle arm hog ball" be voted THE BEST PLAYER in the Big Ten in 2016?? THE BEST PLAYER out of all 308 starters in the Big Ten. ANSWER the question or you have been proven to be a know nothing about football LIAR.
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Post by DrTorch on May 6, 2017 15:23:42 GMT -5
you're a Connor confuser and you will always will be
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Post by Willard Fillmore on May 6, 2017 15:28:53 GMT -5
Not now, I appreciated the correction, I learn. Some on here are incapable
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Post by Willard Fillmore on May 6, 2017 16:01:10 GMT -5
what team accomplishments has Barrett led us to? you are just supporting Rambo McClain's assertion that Barrett is a ballhog seeking individual glory THANK YOU!!! " team accomplishments" One out of 100 players and 10 coaches on a TEAM are NEVER the SOLE reason for a win or a loss. I have proven how Barrett is NOT a "ballhog". Since you have obviously not been reading. A short synopsis: In Urban's first 11 years as a head coach he did not have a tailback that gained 1000 yards, due to "ballhog" QBs. In Barrett's 3 years OSU tailbacks gained over 2000 yards each year. Close to or double Barrett's rushing yards. In those 3 years OSU tailbacks had close to or twice as many carries than Barrett. EVEN in Urban's offense in which the QB MUST carry the ball a lot for it to be successful. You are MUCH brighter than Rambo, explain to him how these facts and stats, disprove his BS and lies about "ballhog".
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Post by DrTorch on May 6, 2017 17:35:57 GMT -5
It is ok to ballhog when it is working. Unfortunately Barrett doesn't play Minnesota every week.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on May 6, 2017 18:16:20 GMT -5
It is ok to ballhog when it is working. Unfortunately Barrett doesn't play Minnesota every week. Not counting sacks, "ballhog" averaged 6.4 yd/carry in 2014, 6.5 yd/carry in 2015 and 5.4 yd/carry in 2016. Compare those numbers with arguably the best tailback in OSU history Zeke averaging 6.9 yd/carry in 2014, 6.3 yd/carry in 2015 and Weber 6.0 in 2016. VERY good numbers for a "ballhog". And AGAIN, Tailbacks carried the ball twice as often as the "ballhog". Obviously NOT "ballhog", supply numbers that prove otherwise.
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Post by Rambo McClain on May 7, 2017 6:07:35 GMT -5
Sir, I gave you the numbers to prove his ball hogging is making OSU lose games. Sir, please don't lie. You obviously are not a OSU fan, as all OSU fans know Conner Cook did not play in that game. Only a troll who doesn't watch OSU would make that 'mistake' Sir, you wrote time and time again that OSU only had 22 yards rushing. Only after I looked at the box score and noticed you lied did you change your story and now you are proclaiming you were always right even though you blatantly lied Sir, you remind me of the Huron boys that get on here and make up stories about fictitious players and their stat lines. Sir, I think you need to be investigated as being the poster posting as dump and the gang. Sir, the entire OSU/MSU game in 2015 it was mentioned that Conner Cook was not playing because he was injured. Then you got on here and described how he ran and threw in that game and listed the achievements of his, etc. That style of fictitious posting is exactly the way dump posts. Sir, stop trying to dump on us, you are a troll
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Post by galion on May 7, 2017 6:55:31 GMT -5
I'm still working on how Cardale winning a National Championship with only 10% of the passing plays at his disposal(allegedly) is somehow a credit to JT who couldn't win one with the ENTIRE playbook at his.
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Post by sportsjock on May 7, 2017 7:32:06 GMT -5
I'm still working on how Cardale winning a National Championship with only 10% of the passing plays at his disposal(allegedly) is somehow a credit to JT who couldn't win one with the ENTIRE playbook at his. I suggest you forward your concerns and complaints to Urban Meyer and his coaching staff, since they obviously 'don't get it'. Perhaps they will request your resume' and consider you for a position on their staff, with your infinite wisdom of how to conduct an offense and win National Championships.
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Post by DrTorch on May 7, 2017 14:51:33 GMT -5
the only QB Meyer recruited and won a title with is Tebow
Leak and Jones were regime leftovers. Just for the record.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on May 7, 2017 16:43:32 GMT -5
Sir, I gave you the numbers to prove his ball hogging is making OSU lose games. Sir, please don't lie. You obviously are not a OSU fan, as all OSU fans know Conner Cook did not play in that game. Only a troll who doesn't watch OSU would make that 'mistake' Sir, you wrote time and time again that OSU only had 22 yards rushing. Only after I looked at the box score and noticed you lied did you change your story and now you are proclaiming you were always right even though you blatantly lied Sir, you remind me of the Huron boys that get on here and make up stories about fictitious players and their stat lines. Sir, I think you need to be investigated as being the poster posting as dump and the gang. Sir, the entire OSU/MSU game in 2015 it was mentioned that Conner Cook was not playing because he was injured. Then you got on here and described how he ran and threw in that game and listed the achievements of his, etc. That style of fictitious posting is exactly the way dump posts. Sir, stop trying to dump on us, you are a troll Sir, how does one "ball hog" when the Tailbacks have carried the ball twice as often? Sir, how does one "ball hog" when you average over 6 yards/carry for your career? Sir, YOU are the liar. I have pointed out numerous of your examples. You have pointed out ONE, and it WAS NOT a lie, it was an honest mistake made at 2:30AM due to there being 2 "Conners". Why would one need to lie about the name of a QB when one has DOZENS of facts and stats that are irrefutable?? Sir, DO NOT LIE, this is what WAS said, time and time again. "Ohio State had one run of 64 yards, the other 22 carries resulted in just 24 yards." Including 3 sacks, LOUSY O-line play in that game. THOSE ARE THE FACTS OF THE GAME. Look at the box score of the game. It will prove me correct and you to be a liar troll. Sir, you remind of every LOSER of debates. When they don't have the facts on their side they result to untruths. Sir, you look like a silly little teenie sore loser. Twice in one tread, all you have is my ONE admitted mistake made at 2:30am glancing at the MSU box score and confusing the 2 "Conners". If that's all you've got, then you have PROVEN yourself to be a LOSER....of the debate. Sir, losers of debates sneak out of the room with their tails between their legs. Get a hold of your tail and GO, leave, vamanos before it gets worse for you. Sir, this is what REALLY makes you look bad. I will have asked the same question of you now SIX times. You have failed to proffer an answer, WHY??? Here it is again.... How could a "noodle arm ball hog" be voted THE BEST Player In The Big Ten in 2016? THE BEST player out of all 308 starters in the Big Ten. If you fail to answer for the sixth time, you will have PROVEN yourself to be a LOSER....of the debate. If you don't give a logical intelligent answer now, I will be asking it on every post you make, on every thread I run across on every sport, forever. Those of your ilk can not be allowed to stand without a challenge. BTW, with 7 more TD passes "noodle arm ball hog" will break Drew Breeze's Big Ten Record for Most TDs in a career.
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Post by galion on May 7, 2017 17:00:27 GMT -5
On a sidenote, congrats to Cardale for getting his diploma today.
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Post by galion on May 7, 2017 17:02:06 GMT -5
I'm still working on how Cardale winning a National Championship with only 10% of the passing plays at his disposal(allegedly) is somehow a credit to JT who couldn't win one with the ENTIRE playbook at his. I suggest you forward your concerns and complaints to Urban Meyer and his coaching staff, since they obviously 'don't get it'. Perhaps they will request your resume' and consider you for a position on their staff, with your infinite wisdom of how to conduct an offense and win National Championships. I'm simply responding to a statement that WF keeps throwing out there. I don't believe for a second that it's actually true.
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Post by sportsjock on May 7, 2017 17:43:40 GMT -5
I suggest you forward your concerns and complaints to Urban Meyer and his coaching staff, since they obviously 'don't get it'. Perhaps they will request your resume' and consider you for a position on their staff, with your infinite wisdom of how to conduct an offense and win National Championships. I'm simply responding to a statement that WF keeps throwing out there. I don't believe for a second that it's actually true. Gotcha...... "On a sidenote, congrats to Cardale for getting his diploma today."I think it's so cool that Cardale felt compelled & motivated to finish out his schooling and get his degree, even though he is in the NFL. At one point, he was an academic basket case and possessed all the wrong attitudes concerning the importance of academics. Cardale turned out to be a success story, both on and off the field.
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