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Post by pirate80 on Sept 19, 2017 11:42:06 GMT -5
If Highland coaching isn't very good because they are 2-6 in the playoffs, then what does that make Cardingtons coaching who hasn't even made an appearance? lol a Cardington folk accusing other schools of being dirty now that is hilarious. That's usually the Cardington halftime adjustment. "Well we're not winning this one boys, so let's start taking the cheap shots." You Pirates keep on having fun explaining why Highlands not very good team and not very good coaches are playing in Week 11.....while your just so incredibly awesome players and coaches are turning equipment in on Week 11. Also, yeah Highland is more discipline....ya know like not doing things like fumbling in the other teams red zone with very little time left, but just enough to let the opponents win with :25 to go. Man you just reopened that wound. ☹️ Seriously one of the top five worst nights of my life. Thanks for reminding me lol. You keep accusing me of saying things that I didn't say. Never said Cardington-Lincoln was great, even gave props to Highland for making the playoffs. Where we differ is that I recognize that if Highland was as special as their Penn State-esque fans thought they were, they'd have something to show for it like Pleasant does. You took what I said entirely too personally. But that's ok. Until my Pirates consistently can beat the Scots we have to just take it. It's all good Stanley. Curious, when did you graduate?
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Post by usa70pp on Sept 19, 2017 12:49:12 GMT -5
Did Chesterville ever contribute any football players to Highland?
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Post by stanley on Sept 19, 2017 23:57:19 GMT -5
If Highland coaching isn't very good because they are 2-6 in the playoffs, then what does that make Cardingtons coaching who hasn't even made an appearance? lol a Cardington folk accusing other schools of being dirty now that is hilarious. That's usually the Cardington halftime adjustment. "Well we're not winning this one boys, so let's start taking the cheap shots." You Pirates keep on having fun explaining why Highlands not very good team and not very good coaches are playing in Week 11.....while your just so incredibly awesome players and coaches are turning equipment in on Week 11. Also, yeah Highland is more discipline....ya know like not doing things like fumbling in the other teams red zone with very little time left, but just enough to let the opponents win with :25 to go. Man you just reopened that wound. ☹️ Seriously one of the top five worst nights of my life. Thanks for reminding me lol. You keep accusing me of saying things that I didn't say. Never said Cardington-Lincoln was great, even gave props to Highland for making the playoffs. Where we differ is that I recognize that if Highland was as special as their Penn State-esque fans thought they were, they'd have something to show for it like Pleasant does. You took what I said entirely too personally. But that's ok. Until my Pirates consistently can beat the Scots we have to just take it. It's all good Stanley. Curious, when did you graduate? Not going to release my age, but of course it's all good. I felt like the hard work that the Scots continue to put in was being brushed to the way side as luck due to numbers which I know not to be true, I responded by putting your alma mater on serious blast. You defended your alma mater and I wouldn't expect you to react in any other way. That's the way it oughta be. If I didn't like it I wouldn't be on here. Besides, it was kinda nice seeing the KMAC thread get a little fiery for a change. We should do this more often haha just kidding.
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Post by usa70pp on Sept 20, 2017 3:16:08 GMT -5
That was a serious question about Chesterville players. All you hear about are Sparta and Marengo players.
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Post by stanley on Sept 20, 2017 4:57:22 GMT -5
That's a great question USA and one I couldn't give you a 100% answer to. It would be an interesting project to go back and see which players have come out of which town and what not.
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Post by pirate80 on Sept 20, 2017 6:51:02 GMT -5
The only reason I asked was because unless you played in that game I wouldn't expect you to remember that game in such vivid detail. Because 14 years later it still motivates and haunts me lol.
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Post by gopirates on Sept 21, 2017 8:50:23 GMT -5
Ok Stanley. Yes Highland is the big boy in the Morrow County sandbox. None of us have had much success at all against Highland and we can't deny it. However, whenever Highland leaves the comfort of that sandbox they tend to get their butts kicked. Since 2010, those mighty Scots are 4-14 in non conference and one of those 4 wins was against East Knox. 9 of those 14 losses were double digit losses and by an average of 21 points. So, yes you are the big dog in the Morrow County sandbox and now we know why've you want to stay in that cozy little sandbox. It's not so friendly when you leave it. By the way, I agree with Pirate 80. When you lose a starter, it might only be one starter you are losing. When we lose a kid, we probably lose a starter on both sides. He might also be a long snapper or our punter too.
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Post by pirate80 on Sept 21, 2017 9:06:14 GMT -5
Stanley and I hashed out our differences off the main forum. I think we probably agree we are both homers that will defend our Alma maters tooth, fang and claw haha. Seems to be a stand up dude! 🤘
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Post by stanley on Sept 21, 2017 10:59:17 GMT -5
Yeah me and Pirate80 are all good! He's a good guy and like he said we'll both defend our alma mater tooth and nail and I can respect that and would expect everyone to. Trash talk on a sports forum it's all good, it's not like we hate each other as people lol now GoPirates I'm not gonna argue that from a Highland vs Cardington stand point because neither did you, besides we'll save that round two for Week 8. Here's all I got in regards to that first off since 2010 they are 6-15 in Non league games. since 2010 they have played in 21 Non league games, 2 of those have been playoff games one of those playoff games they manhandled Portsmouth West 38-7. Anyways, 4 of these Non league games have been against a smaller school that did not see the postseason, 2 of those 4 were the Freddy opener before the MOAC went through its reform. 8 of these 21 Non league games were against teams that saw the postseason. 2 were smaller, 6 were the same division and 2 of those 6 were in the actual postseason (2010 P-West & Ironton) 3 of these 21 were against other D4 opponents that did not see the postseason and 3 of these 21 were against D3/D2 teams. They won 2 out of 3 this year in Non league. Lossed to BC by a point who will probably be in the postseason beat RV and Ontario who have their work cut out for them in MOAC play, but wouldn't be shocked to see either of them in postseason as well. Again not saying they will be, just wouldn't be shocked to see it. Now don't get me wrong I'm not claiming that Highland has been successful more times than not in this time span of Non league games because they haven't. However, on average since 2010 they lose a Non league game by 9 points. That's not good, that's not winning, but I wouldn't consider that getting consistently smoked either. My main point behind it all, is that Highland clearly has chosen to challenge themselves in Non league games. They expect every year to own the county and win the league. That's an expectation and they have viewed it as unacceptable on years they have not. They set up their scrimmages with the likes of Hartley, Danville (before joining the league,) Watkins Memorial, Newark, and Pleasant and the like. I personally would not consider their Non league and scrimmage setup as a team that is afraid to leave their "cozy sandbox." The football team can't decide who is in their league, the folks who made the decision to form the KMAC is not the Highland football team lol even if you want to blame Highlands former AD for making the push to leave the MOAC nobody made the other ADs follow them like lost sheep. They could've stood up and told Highland "were staying put and your on your own." What the football team does not have total say in, but I would imagine somewhat of a say in, is who they play Non league and who they scrimmage and if you look at teams they scrimmage and play in Non league that's not a team happily staying put in a sandbox. That's not a team that is afraid to fail. That's a program that wants to continue to better themselves. They struggled for a long time in Non league, but didn't ask for it to be made easier, they put their heads down and continued to fight through it. And this year so far is a product of that. They were 2-1 in Non league and came very close to being a 3-0. This whole time they could've been scheduling horrible D4 and horrible D3 teams, whip on them and possibly sneak into an 8 seed into the playoffs, but what good would that have done them? So you can point and laugh at their 0-9 Non league streak from 2014-2016 on which they play 4 teams that continued on to the postseason, but I think this season were starting to see the results of what continuing to challenge yoursef can do. Maybe this trend will continue and they'll start being 3-0 in Non league and the KMAC season will really get ugly and maybe one day Highland will get kicked out who knows. Maybe it's just the 2017 team. Maybe Highland will get torn up in league play and we'll find out their 3 Non league games weren't that great after (I doubt that one, but who knows) regardless of the outcome it's not a program that's doing everything they can to stay within a safety net, or a comfort zone, or a cozy sandbox, it's a program that clearly has goals bigger than owning the county and winning the KMAC. They appear to have goals that reflect wanting to be a consistent playoff team and possibly one day make some noise in the playoffs. Are they there yet? Well absolutely not, but that appears to be the direction they want to move in and it appears they have taken some steps towards that goal. I'm not sitting here claiming that Highland is going to make the playoffs and go deep, we're not at that point in the season yet. But who they are scrimmaging and playing in Non league reflects that, that is where they want to be and all we have to gage is the 3 Non league games they played and according to those they have definitely taken steps towards that. Don't confuse me I'm not claiming that that is how their season will go, but they are headed in the right direction I will say that.
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Post by 7up on Sept 22, 2017 10:56:32 GMT -5
I would of loved to of seen Highland join MOAC red for sure ,that is a rising central Ohio conference. And with North Union leaving and adding Shelby it's only getting better,you have to throw out the D2 D3 D4 aspects and just realize there are some very good programs in it. After watching Ontario last week and hearing how good Clear Fork is playing I'm excited to see how this plays out.
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Post by pirate80 on Sept 22, 2017 11:23:53 GMT -5
I would of loved to of seen Highland join MOAC red for sure ,that is a rising central Ohio conference. And with North Union leaving and adding Shelby it's only getting better,you have to throw out the D2 D3 D4 aspects and just realize there are some very good programs in it. After watching Ontario last week and hearing how good Clear Fork is playing I'm excited to see how this plays out. All three of Highland's rivals are in the new league though. They made the right choice for tradition and gate revenue.
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Post by pirate80 on Sept 23, 2017 5:44:08 GMT -5
Pirates defense and kick coverage let them down tonight. Unfortunate growing pains with a young team.
On the plus side, offense took a huge step forward, particularly through the air.
There were two really bad calls in particular that hurt Cardington tonight. Firstly a pretty obvious touchback that was instead ruled as Cardington down at the 1. Followed by a fumble against the Pirates where back was clearly down.
However, too many missed tackles, sacks and penalties to be in a good chance to win. Can be frustrating at times but it's fun to watch a young team grow from week to week. Got a lot of kids that are having to grow up fast.
EK has good size. Not a lot of depth but they made plays on several third and longs that could have got Cardington back in the game.
Not sure why with less than a minute to go they were calling timeouts and throwing the ball on fourth down but it is what it is. Always love going over there, love being right up on the field.
EK wins 51-40.
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Post by Waterboy on Sept 30, 2017 8:26:47 GMT -5
Seems like this weeks games went as planned as the top 4 in the league ran over the bottom 4. The last 4 weeks will be interesting as it will determine a lot with league champ, playoff positioning. East Knox schedule is back loaded having to play Highland, Northmor, and Danville, Highland will still have to play Northmor as well.
Last night I was at the Highland-Mount Gilead game and it went as expected. Highland could have named their score but kept it pretty simple. Gilead got their score in the 4th qtr against the Highland JV's. I am not sure who the officiating crew was for this game but they were not very good. At times it was almost comical because the head official wasn't even giving the right signals for the penalty he was calling.
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Post by pirate80 on Sept 30, 2017 11:49:57 GMT -5
The Cardington officials weren't good either.
Northmor won rather convincingly and the only thing the Pirates can truly blame it on is horrendous tackling. But right after we cut the lead to 12-7, forced a three and out that was negated by a horrible roughing the punter call.
But at the end of the day, Pirates have got to tackle better. They're young and will get there. Lots of growing pains right now.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Oct 9, 2017 19:24:03 GMT -5
KMAC Standings:
7-0, 4-0 East Knox 6-1, 4-0 Highland 6-1, 3-1 Danville 5-2, 2-2 Northmor 2-5, 1-3 Cardington-Lincoln 2-5, 1-3 Centerburg 2-5, 1-3 Fredericktown 0-7, 0-4 Mount Gilead
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Post by stanley on Oct 19, 2017 15:14:30 GMT -5
Is one of Cardingtons running backs hurt? I wanna say Goers? I didn't feel like I saw him play last Friday vs Highland, but I arrived late, didn't pick up a roster so perhaps I got the jersey numbers confused.
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Post by pirate80 on Oct 19, 2017 15:17:51 GMT -5
I believe out for the season. Got hurt Vs Northmor, unfortunately.
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Post by stanley on Oct 19, 2017 15:44:31 GMT -5
That's too bad. Wish him the best in recovery.
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Post by pirate80 on Oct 19, 2017 20:52:41 GMT -5
That's too bad. Wish him the best in recovery. The good news is he's only a sophomore. The whole team is taking a lot of growing pains this year. A lot of kids playing that had to try and grow up quick. I'm hopeful that that can only mean good things in the future.
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Post by stanley on Oct 19, 2017 22:40:25 GMT -5
That's too bad. Wish him the best in recovery. The good news is he's only a sophomore. The whole team is taking a lot of growing pains this year. A lot of kids playing that had to try and grow up quick. I'm hopeful that that can only mean good things in the future. Taking a look at the roster (via MaxPreps) they don't appear to graduate a whole lot in terms of numbers. It seems what you do graduate will hurt, but the good news is, is that it doesn't seem to be a whole bunch of guys. I see quite a few sophomores already filling in pretty big roles so I would agree that on paper nonetheless it should mean good things for the future.
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Post by blazer on Oct 20, 2017 20:27:37 GMT -5
Northmor 49-0
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Post by cowtown on Oct 20, 2017 23:32:26 GMT -5
I hope Northmor plays that well against Highland next week. They just might give them a loss ! Injury ridden Centerburg just can NOT compete this year . I'm scared that the Freddies will roll them next week.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Oct 21, 2017 8:38:17 GMT -5
Standings heading into week 10:
8-1, 6-0 Highland 8-1, 5-1 Danville 7-2, 4-2 East Knox 7-2, 4-2 Northmor 4-5, 3-3 Fredericktown 2-7, 1-5 Cardington-Lincoln 2-7, 1-5 Centerburg 0-9, 0-6 Mount Gilead
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Post by pirate80 on Oct 21, 2017 21:19:19 GMT -5
And out of nowhere, Goers played last night. He didn't look 100% but he played nonetheless.
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Post by pirate80 on Oct 22, 2017 8:42:25 GMT -5
Finally rivalry week. One of these teams will be able to claim at least bragging rights from the county's oldest rivalry. This year's will be the 73rd meeting between Cardington-Lincoln and Mount Gilead. TTUN holds a 36-35-1 lead in the all time series. Purple enters at 0-9 but I imagine for them to be very hungry for that elusive first win. My Pirates come in 2-7 and pretty beat up, which has been the case pretty much since the Ontario game. Don't know much about MG's team, Cardington's lack of depth has forced a lot of youngsters into "grow up fast" mode.
I'm hopeful that Cardington's few seniors find a way to rally the troops and pull this one out. On paper they should win, but in rivalry games like this one, who knows? I predict the Pirates will rise up, play to their potential, win 42-26 and send the seniors out as victors in their last game while also creating some needed momentum and confidence heading into next season.
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Post by pirate80 on Oct 22, 2017 10:55:39 GMT -5
Also, good luck to Northmor. Certainly jealous that they will likely beat my Pirates in the race to finally achieve their first ever playoff berth.
East Knox needs to win and get some help probably, but I think it's great that in year one that 4/8 of the teams in the new conference are in legitimate playoff contention. Danville should make a run. Highland could win a game or two as well this year. East Knox would likely be one and done if they make it in. The wildcard is Northmor though. How they play Vs Highland might give a look at what kind of noise they could potentially make in the playoffs. The handled Lucas pretty soundly who has become a perennial playoff team in recent years. If the Knights can develop any semblance of a passing game they could be very intriguing if they make it to November.
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Post by stanley on Oct 22, 2017 12:17:34 GMT -5
In terms of region 23 I would expect Northmor to beat Fort Frye and Shenandoah, compete with and possibly beat Shadysidd, SCC, and Southeastern. Compete with, but possibly fall to Dawson Bryant. I think Nelsonville York would be an extremely tough one. I think East Knox is better than Fort Frye and Shenandoah as well. The only thing I see standing in the way of Danville going to the final four would be a few of the athletes at Harvest Prep....still at the end of the day though I would pick Danville to win that one. For Highland in Region 14, I don't "expect" them to beat anyone, but I also don't "expect" anyone to beat them.. I think every game in that region for them would be considered a toss up.....kinda so goes the story for a 4-5 seed. Right now it looks like they will be bracketed on the opposite side of Shelby....IF they were to make it that far I would expect them to at the very least make the game competitive.
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Post by pirate80 on Oct 27, 2017 5:48:30 GMT -5
It's RIVALRY DAY!
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Oct 27, 2017 8:16:03 GMT -5
Calpreps projections:
Cardington 46 Mt Gilead 26 Danville 31 East Knox 14 Fredericktown 34 Centerburg 7 Highland 28 Northmor 22
Drew Pasteur projections:
Cardington by 16 Danville by 13 Highland by 9 Fredericktown by 16
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Post by Waterboy on Oct 27, 2017 8:54:50 GMT -5
Good Luck tonight, hard to believe it is week 10. Looking ahead to week 11 one thing I noticed was Northmor's potential opponent. With a loss tonight Drew Pasteur has them dropping to 6th and traveling to Coal Grove, thats a 3 hour bus ride! Some of these regions are absolutely insane.
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