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Post by moneyball on Jul 28, 2017 7:41:36 GMT -5
I'm hearing that there are a lot of people that are running for school board this time and it appears that we have went years without having these current members challenged for the seats that they were holding. I know it is obvious that the bullying issue is a huge topic in Willard but I'm curious if there are other issues going on that are making so many people want to run this term, at least 4-5 more people are running against them? I heard that there are 3 seats open and Danhoff and Bohach (spelling ??) are rerunning but not sure if Rod Cok was rerunning.
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Post by ScottT on Jul 28, 2017 9:04:44 GMT -5
It's easy enough to see who is running...Contact the Huron County Board of Elections to see who has taken out or turned in petitions for those seats. If I'm not mistaken, the deadline to file is sometime around August 10th.
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Post by moneyball on Jul 28, 2017 11:50:05 GMT -5
Got it. Looks like: Aubrey Rose, Donna Cok, Lisa Bohach, Marsha Danhoff, Dave Lawrence, Richard Willoughby, Jody Tackett and Rod Cok.
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Post by antoniograpeseed on Jul 28, 2017 21:39:03 GMT -5
Sure are a lot of coks running.
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Post by tommygunn on Jul 31, 2017 9:38:32 GMT -5
I recently read Mr. Lawrence shared post on facebook. He is all for 8 year term limits. He has my vote. Rod, Marsha, you have both been on the board for way to long, plus there is a conflict of interest with Marsha's child being a principle if I am not mistaken. Rick Willoughby is too soft, won't deal with hard issues. Donna Cok, there is no way she gets in. Aubrey Rose, never heard of this person. Jody's husband is the school's resource officer, might be a slight conflict of interest there.
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Post by moneyball on Aug 2, 2017 11:01:15 GMT -5
Is it true that members get medical and dental insurance? If so, sounds like that would be a good reason for some of these people to try and stay on the board for 15-20 years, or as long as they can.
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Post by tommygunn on Aug 2, 2017 11:11:38 GMT -5
I highly doubt that. I think the pay is minimal and considering the medical changes that have happened in the school system due to Obamacare, I just don't see the $$$$ in Willard's budget.
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Post by moneyball on Aug 2, 2017 13:06:36 GMT -5
Just confirmed, they do get the same insurance coverage as teachers, so they are covered.
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Post by bat21 on Aug 5, 2017 7:50:05 GMT -5
^^^^^^ Providing they pay for it. Currently ... I was informed ... no BOE member has taken the option.
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Post by moneyball on Aug 8, 2017 8:02:30 GMT -5
There are board members taking the insurance. The cost of their insurance is cheaper than private insurance. Heather Slone just joined the party and it looks like there are now 9 people running for 3 seats. This is going to be one interesting race. Curious why so many people are running this year when in past years they went unopposed?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 8:16:06 GMT -5
The real concern in this type of situation is the fact that someone could be elected with less than 50% of the voters wanting them.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 12:00:38 GMT -5
The real concern in this type of situation is the fact that someone could be elected with less than 50% of the voters wanting them. Not any different than the presidential elections
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Post by moneyball on Aug 8, 2017 13:12:54 GMT -5
If that is the case, those that don't vote should keep their opinions to themselves. I'm amazed at how many people complain about change yet they are not registered voters or don't vote when they have the opportunity. This election will be odd since nothing of significance will be on the ballot that will draw people to the voting booths. If someone gets 50% of 2000 votes, that will be a shock. It is obvious to anyone watching this situation that people in this town are wanting change and those rerunning don't want it to happen.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 13:38:49 GMT -5
The real concern in this type of situation is the fact that someone could be elected with less than 50% of the voters wanting them. Not any different than the presidential elections I don't know that I have ever seen a president win an election were he received less than 50% of the support from the votes cast. In this case someone could possibly receive 15% support and win.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 16:34:56 GMT -5
Not any different than the presidential elections I don't know that I have ever seen a president win an election were he received less than 50% of the support from the votes cast. In this case someone could possibly receive 15% support and win. we just saw one in November
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Aug 8, 2017 20:44:54 GMT -5
I don't know that I have ever seen a president win an election were he received less than 50% of the support from the votes cast. In this case someone could possibly receive 15% support and win. we just saw one in November It's happened 19 times.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 20:49:07 GMT -5
Sorry bighoss, my bad. I just noticed I had an error in my typing. When I was thinking of three seats open I was thinking of 30% but typed in 50%. Then when you said the presidential race it sidetracked me. 100% my fault. My point was someone could actually have twice as many people voting against them and still win a spot for a Willard board seat. To have this many running for seats there must be a lot of upset people in the district.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 21:14:52 GMT -5
Sorry bighoss, my bad. I just noticed I had an error in my typing. When I was thinking of three seats open I was thinking of 30% but typed in 50%. Then when you said the presidential race it sidetracked me. 100% my fault. My point was someone could actually have twice as many people voting against them and still win a spot for a Willard board seat. To have this many running for seats there must be a lot of upset people in the district. I get your point. Hopefully Willard votes for people that get things turned around
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Post by hsfootballnwo on Aug 9, 2017 0:50:28 GMT -5
Will the Willard BOE fire Devier for the crap he pulled getting that kid hurt at Woodmore?
Crickets...
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Post by moneyball on Aug 9, 2017 10:51:05 GMT -5
Sorry bighoss, my bad. I just noticed I had an error in my typing. When I was thinking of three seats open I was thinking of 30% but typed in 50%. Then when you said the presidential race it sidetracked me. 100% my fault. My point was someone could actually have twice as many people voting against them and still win a spot for a Willard board seat. To have this many running for seats there must be a lot of upset people in the district. It is obvious that people feel the need for change. I'm not sure what all the issues are but it sounds like the people running against these current seat holders are close to the system and know there needs to be positive change, it starts with new leadership. It is evident that Ritz and Rod are close and the checks and balances that should be in place between school board and administration are blurred due to this. Whomever gets in I would hope they have a better sense of loyalty to the people that put them there, the voters in this community.
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Post by greenman on Aug 9, 2017 11:11:17 GMT -5
Will the Willard BOE fire Devier for the crap he pulled getting that kid hurt at Woodmore? Crickets... You know he was dismissed by the judge as party to that suit, right. He was named in the suit to begin with only because he was HC - even the kid's parents were really after a position coach. No feelings on the guy either way, but how many times need we rehash this for people who don't pay attention?
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Post by tommygunn on Aug 9, 2017 11:59:03 GMT -5
Willard can switch out the entire board every 4 years and nothing will change. Change happens at home. Willard is not the Willard of old. Willard is half rentals, most of which are government housing. Thank you Jerry Stackhouse for ruining our town while your entire family moves in and out of Willard making bank on wee wee poor housing. Government housing brings in low income people, who do not care about this town or their kids. Ask the teachers, they will tell you. Willard's problem is the quality of people living in this community. More good ones are dying off or moving and the ones coming to Willard are vastly poor.
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Post by moneyball on Aug 9, 2017 13:53:36 GMT -5
Willard can switch out the entire board every 4 years and nothing will change. Change happens at home. Willard is not the Willard of old. Willard is half rentals, most of which are government housing. Thank you Jerry Stackhouse for ruining our town while your entire family moves in and out of Willard making bank on wee wee poor housing. Government housing brings in low income people, who do not care about this town or their kids. Ask the teachers, they will tell you. Willard's problem is the quality of people living in this community. More good ones are dying off or moving and the ones coming to Willard are vastly poor. Totally agree with the issue of housing and people residing in this community. The school board can address issues in the school but City Council needs to address Metro and the slumlords that let their properties fall apart and do nothing to get better renters in. The school board should work with City Council and the surrounding manufacturing companies in this town to see how they can work together to improve these issues. If Metro can be voted out, we need to vote it out. That is one of the biggest problems, these groups none want to work together for the common goal. Change is not only needed it is being demanded, shown by the number of people running this year.
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Post by bat21 on Aug 14, 2017 8:38:26 GMT -5
There are board members taking the insurance. The cost of their insurance is cheaper than private insurance. Heather Slone just joined the party and it looks like there are now 9 people running for 3 seats. This is going to be one interesting race. Curious why so many people are running this year when in past years they went unopposed?Everyone has an ax to grind. Sadly ... from what I'm hearing ... it has nothing to do with education.
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Post by moneyball on Aug 14, 2017 9:33:55 GMT -5
There are board members taking the insurance. The cost of their insurance is cheaper than private insurance. Heather Slone just joined the party and it looks like there are now 9 people running for 3 seats. This is going to be one interesting race. Curious why so many people are running this year when in past years they went unopposed?Everyone has an ax to grind. Sadly ... from what I'm hearing ... it has nothing to do with education. I've spoken with a few of the people running and I've asked them why they are running; the answers vary from "we need people on the board with fresh ideas" to "we need people on the board that are willing to hold the administration accountable for results." We keep losing kids and all you hear Ritz say is enrollment is down. Of course it is down, what are you doing to bring people to this town, and keep them here? This town has allowed low income housing and these renters/owners create a situation that is crumbling this school and the board needs to address that with City Council. The school has a D Grade rating and if a family that puts value on education (I sure hope they all would), they will likely not even consider moving into Willard when they look at this rating. We have a Curriculum Director in the school that should be driving positive results but we aren't seeing the results. Curriculum in a school this size should be handled by the Assistant Principal, not a Curriculum Director. Whether someone has an ax to grind or not, it is evident people running thinks there is a major issue and change needs to happen.
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Post by areafan1 on Aug 14, 2017 11:55:14 GMT -5
This is Devier last year anyway. He waited to last minute to resign from his teaching job, so Willard would have to let him coach this year. He gone after game 10.
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Post by clb6110 on Aug 14, 2017 12:34:42 GMT -5
^^ But what if Willard makes the playoffs?
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Post by ScottT on Aug 15, 2017 15:31:17 GMT -5
Everyone has an ax to grind. Sadly ... from what I'm hearing ... it has nothing to do with education. I've spoken with a few of the people running and I've asked them why they are running; the answers vary from "we need people on the board with fresh ideas" to "we need people on the board that are willing to hold the administration accountable for results." We keep losing kids and all you hear Ritz say is enrollment is down. Of course it is down, what are you doing to bring people to this town, and keep them here? This town has allowed low income housing and these renters/owners create a situation that is crumbling this school and the board needs to address that with City Council. The school has a D Grade rating and if a family that puts value on education (I sure hope they all would), they will likely not even consider moving into Willard when they look at this rating. We have a Curriculum Director in the school that should be driving positive results but we aren't seeing the results. Curriculum in a school this size should be handled by the Assistant Principal, not a Curriculum Director. Whether someone has an ax to grind or not, it is evident people running thinks there is a major issue and change needs to happen. From ScottT: If I can be blunt...Keep in mind I have no horse in this race.The D rating on the school report card is meaningless. The state changes the assessment factors every single year, which makes it nearly impossible to truly grade schools on a consistent basis. As far as curriculum, an assistant principal doesn't usually handle those duties, but I suppose it could be included in the job description. If not a curriculum director, those duties should probably be handled by the principal or the superintendent. As far as the Board of Education, I don't see a lot (if any) changes happening in terms of members simply because Willard historically has Huron County's lowest voter turnout. I've seen major elections where some precincts have had 12 percent turnout, when the average around the rest of the county is 50 percent or higher. Until more people get out and vote, nothing will change. It's certainly not a bad thing that more people are running, but they're facing an uphill battle. When people who have an axe to grind run (and win), it's usually bad news. Bellevue went through that a dozen or so years ago. There was a small but vocal group that wanted the superintendent out. They did get elected, got the superintendent out, but had no real plan after that, and things kind of went from bad to worse. Board of Education members aren't there to run day-to-day operations of the district, nor should they try. The three main duties are to hire and fire the superintendent and treasurer, set policy and approve expenditures. Sadly, a lot of people don't realize that, including some people who run for a Board of Education seat.
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Post by moneyball on Aug 16, 2017 6:47:30 GMT -5
I've spoken with a few of the people running and I've asked them why they are running; the answers vary from "we need people on the board with fresh ideas" to "we need people on the board that are willing to hold the administration accountable for results." We keep losing kids and all you hear Ritz say is enrollment is down. Of course it is down, what are you doing to bring people to this town, and keep them here? This town has allowed low income housing and these renters/owners create a situation that is crumbling this school and the board needs to address that with City Council. The school has a D Grade rating and if a family that puts value on education (I sure hope they all would), they will likely not even consider moving into Willard when they look at this rating. We have a Curriculum Director in the school that should be driving positive results but we aren't seeing the results. Curriculum in a school this size should be handled by the Assistant Principal, not a Curriculum Director. Whether someone has an ax to grind or not, it is evident people running thinks there is a major issue and change needs to happen. From ScottT: If I can be blunt...Keep in mind I have no horse in this race.The D rating on the school report card is meaningless. The state changes the assessment factors every single year, which makes it nearly impossible to truly grade schools on a consistent basis. As far as curriculum, an assistant principal doesn't usually handle those duties, but I suppose it could be included in the job description. If not a curriculum director, those duties should probably be handled by the principal or the superintendent. As far as the Board of Education, I don't see a lot (if any) changes happening in terms of members simply because Willard historically has Huron County's lowest voter turnout. I've seen major elections where some precincts have had 12 percent turnout, when the average around the rest of the county is 50 percent or higher. Until more people get out and vote, nothing will change. It's certainly not a bad thing that more people are running, but they're facing an uphill battle. When people who have an axe to grind run (and win), it's usually bad news. Bellevue went through that a dozen or so years ago. There was a small but vocal group that wanted the superintendent out. They did get elected, got the superintendent out, but had no real plan after that, and things kind of went from bad to worse. Board of Education members aren't there to run day-to-day operations of the district, nor should they try. The three main duties are to hire and fire the superintendent and treasurer, set policy and approve expenditures. Sadly, a lot of people don't realize that, including some people who run for a Board of Education seat. Regardless, the rating DOES sway decision making when people are looking for a school. If the rating doesn't mean anything, why publish it? The point I'm making is, if we are at a D rating, regardless of how the assessment changes, we need to take a long hard look at why we are at a D rating. I'm going to disagree with you this time around as far as numbers go. I think the people in this community have had enough of this board and they will rally people to get out and vote, especially the people that are organized for the student that was bullied and took his own life (I know, no evidence, or at least no documented evidence). No one is going to tell me there isn't bullying going on. It is known and discussed between admin and the parents and the admin drug their feet with this last year so they could get to summer break and think it would just go away. The problem is, document it and you have to address a potential bullying issue, don't document it and you can play dumb. The people that are seeking change have not went away and if anything, that group is gaining strength in numbers.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2017 7:33:29 GMT -5
To be blunt, education begins at home. If an entire district has a D rating the school is fighting a battle it cannot win by increasing population. But change can happen and for Willard I hope it does. My feeling is that Willard has become and will remain a small rural community school which will be more along the lines of Plymouth, South Central and Crestview in the future instead of the past like Shelby, Clyde and Bellevue.
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