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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Aug 27, 2017 9:13:30 GMT -5
This will be the 3rd straight meeting between these 2 schools, with Plymouth having won the first 2 matchups
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Post by ScarletFever on Aug 27, 2017 17:24:04 GMT -5
This will be the 3rd straight meeting between these 2 schools, with Plymouth having won the first 2 matchups Willard needs this one.
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Post by deathfromabove on Aug 27, 2017 18:24:44 GMT -5
This game is going to be a toss-up. Willard came off a Hugh loss to Norwalk but they were really out man and lack of players from the beginning. Plymouth came off a win against Buckeye Central who (like Willard) is also lacking numbers. I am still going to pick Plymouth over Willard until Willard can prove to me that can win. Other wise Willard could go 0-10.
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Post by ScarletFever on Aug 27, 2017 21:09:27 GMT -5
This game is going to be a toss-up. Willard came off a Hugh loss to Norwalk but they were really out man and lack of players from the beginning. Plymouth came off a win against Buckeye Central who (like Willard) is also lacking numbers. I am still going to pick Plymouth over Willard until Willard can prove to me that can win. Other wise Willard could go 0-10. Willard won't go winless, 2 teams on their schedule couldn't beat blind storm troopers. If they can beat Plymouth, a 4 win season isn't impossible.
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Post by deathfromabove on Aug 27, 2017 21:15:30 GMT -5
I hope so Scarlet, That is one reason why Willard is in the river div. so they could start winning some games.
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Post by wallacefan on Aug 27, 2017 21:44:21 GMT -5
I hope so Scarlet, That is one reason why Willard is in the river div. so they could start winning some games. They only get to be in the River a short time, then off to the Bay Divison! A worse fit for them, I cannot imagine. And no crossovers with the River, who will be at 8 soon after Hopewell accepts. What a nightmare.
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Post by moneyball on Aug 28, 2017 7:08:03 GMT -5
This game is going to be a toss-up. Willard came off a Hugh loss to Norwalk but they were really out man and lack of players from the beginning. Plymouth came off a win against Buckeye Central who (like Willard) is also lacking numbers. I am still going to pick Plymouth over Willard until Willard can prove to me that can win. Other wise Willard could go 0-10. I heard the cok kid got injured in the norwalk varsity game, that could play a huge part in this game.
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Post by sportsfan on Aug 28, 2017 9:47:26 GMT -5
Rumor has it Willard is looking at adding South Central to their out of conf schedule.
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Post by deathfromabove on Aug 28, 2017 14:29:37 GMT -5
I heard that there was a injury on the radio but didn't know who it was. I hope it wasn't serious and he'll be back on the field.
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Post by unconcernedcitizen on Aug 28, 2017 22:22:45 GMT -5
Cok did get injured on the very first kickoff of the game! Hurt Willard badly as he is their best defensive player but he went to the doctor and he will be playing this week
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Post by tommygunn on Aug 29, 2017 19:32:32 GMT -5
No offense but Cok didn't lose this game. Willard did, because they are tomato can bad. But lets bring out the excuses early. Willard mom and dads are good at that.
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Post by unconcernedcitizen on Aug 29, 2017 19:41:48 GMT -5
No where in the post did it mention that losing him lost Jen the game? Simply said it hurt bad as he is their best defensive player! And not an excuse at all for what happened
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Sept 1, 2017 19:19:44 GMT -5
Willard 16 Plymouth 9, half
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Post by utsherman on Sept 1, 2017 20:41:27 GMT -5
Willard 32, Plymouth 16. F
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Post by Willard Dad on Sept 2, 2017 4:01:14 GMT -5
woot, the next 3 games will be rough, then on to league play.
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Post by ScarletFever on Sept 2, 2017 12:40:03 GMT -5
A needed win for the flashes. Down 9 early it looked like the beginning of another disaster & another long year.
But probably the biggest play in Willard football over the last few years happened on a 'thunder' strike bomb TD from Sowers to Pinkston. Huge.
Flashes football from that point forward. Thrilled for the kids, coaches, students & families.
The question of 'why are these freshmen playing varsity' can be put to bed.
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Post by crimsonblooded on Sept 2, 2017 16:34:11 GMT -5
The question of 'why are these freshmen playing varsity' can be put to bed. Absolutely, if they couldn't field a freshmen team because of the move would be a whole other argument. But now you have a few kids playing or competing for a spot on their freshmen team that would have been standing on the side line.
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Post by gridiron58 on Sept 2, 2017 19:48:39 GMT -5
I hope so Scarlet, That is one reason why Willard is in the river div. so they could start winning some games. They only get to be in the River a short time, then off to the Bay Divison! A worse fit for them, I cannot imagine. And no crossovers with the River, who will be at 8 soon after Hopewell accepts. What a nightmare. Really? The Bay Division a worse fit for Willard than the schedule they were playing in the NOL (Bellevue, Sandusky, Shelby, Norwalk, Tiffin, etc.)? In the Bay, Div 5 Willard will have to play other Div 5 & 4 schools instead of Div 7 & 6 schools.... oh the horror!!!
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Post by wallacefan on Sept 2, 2017 21:15:52 GMT -5
They only get to be in the River a short time, then off to the Bay Divison! A worse fit for them, I cannot imagine. And no crossovers with the River, who will be at 8 soon after Hopewell accepts. What a nightmare. Really? The Bay Division a worse fit for Willard than the schedule they were playing in the NOL (Bellevue, Sandusky, Shelby, Norwalk, Tiffin, etc.)? In the Bay, Div 5 Willard will have to play other Div 5 & 4 schools instead of Div 7 & 6 schools.... oh the horror!!! LOL. Granted. It's better than playing the old NOL. its the second worst fit. Did you actually even watch Willard play last year. I did. My nephew played for D7 Plymouth last year, so I went to the Willard/ Plymouth game. Mind you Plymouth not only is D7, but finished the season 2-8 for God's sake. It wasn't pretty. Plymouth beat Willard. They couldn't even beat a D7 school. Its just the realities of the situation they are in. They know playing Huron, Port Clinton, Edison, etc. leaves them zero chance for the future to rebuild the program. Which is why they are calling other conferences.
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Post by gridiron58 on Sept 2, 2017 21:53:02 GMT -5
Really? The Bay Division a worse fit for Willard than the schedule they were playing in the NOL (Bellevue, Sandusky, Shelby, Norwalk, Tiffin, etc.)? In the Bay, Div 5 Willard will have to play other Div 5 & 4 schools instead of Div 7 & 6 schools.... oh the horror!!! LOL. Granted. It's better than playing the old NOL. its the second worst fit. Did you actually even watch Willard play last year. I did. My nephew played for D7 Plymouth last year, so I went to the Willard/ Plymouth game. Mind you Plymouth not only is D7, but finished the season 2-8 for God's sake. It wasn't pretty. Plymouth beat Willard. They couldn't even beat a D7 school. Its just the realities of the situation they are in. They know playing Huron, Port Clinton, Edison, etc. leaves them zero chance for the future to rebuild the program. Which is why they are calling other conferences. I did not see Willard play last year, but how good or bad a team is should not be the determining factor for a league to decide who is in what Division IMO. Size should be the main factor (unless a smaller school is looking for a challenge in playing up). It's Willard's prerogative to look for a better option, but from a League standpoint, determining Divisions by size only makes sense. By the way... as a St. Joe fan, I have seen my share of bad football in the recent past. All it took to turn the program around was a coach that the kids want to play for. We went from a roster of 25 and an 0-10 record a few years ago, to a 4-6 record (w/ 2 losses by 1 score) last year, to a roster of 43 this year! All that happened without the help of an easier schedule so there is hope for Willard!!
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Post by DrugMart on Sept 3, 2017 10:07:27 GMT -5
I find that most people do not understand that 30% of Willard students dictated by family heritage/tradition tells them that Soccer is THE sport, not American football. Right out of the gate only 70% of Willard Students even consider football a sport to play, while most D5 schools start near 100%. That is why the football team should be disbanded and all resources should be placed behind the Soccer program. There are only 3 divisions in Soccer and Willard is in D3, by placing all resources behind the Soccer Program Willard could become the Premier D3 Soccer program in the State. 30% of the student body knows Soccer is THE sport, if the other 70% would join along something special could take place in the City of Blossoms. Get rid of Football which is playing in a higher division than the student body suggests it should be in and then reserve Friday Nights for Soccer under the lights. Tailgating, then Soccer domination, 11-0 scores over the opposition because we have 100% of the student body behind the Soccer Program. It's going to be awesome. You guys get excited when the football teams scores 3 times (21 pts), the Soccer team with all resources behind it (and not getting athletes stolen from it for the silly football team) would be scoring around 10 goals a game, that's like 70 points in football.
Get ahead of the curve Willard. Football is on the way out, Soccer is the future.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Sept 3, 2017 13:25:41 GMT -5
DrugMart not to smart. How many DIII schools are Private Schools? First of all, 200# good soccer players are rare, so you can cross those off the list. Many will choose to play golf or run cross country, work on their basketball game in the fall or just sit on the coach playing games. Even with the rest, Willard would NEVER get out of the Sectional/District. You have heard of Mansfield Christian, right?
BTW, to compete were you think Willard should be, you have to start way before kids get to high school. Like with close to 500 in your Youth Soccer Program and be able to do it with less than 2% having a heritage where futball is #1
Just with that "heritage" % thing, Willard should already have more than 50 boys out for soccer, enough for 3 teams. WAY more than necessary to be successful. Does Willard even have a JV team? If not work on the 30% before starting on the 70%.
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Post by DrugMart on Sept 3, 2017 15:28:38 GMT -5
DrugMart not to smart. How many DIII schools are Private Schools? First of all, 200# good soccer players are rare, so you can cross those off the list. Many will choose to play golf or run cross country, work on their basketball game in the fall or just sit on the coach playing games. Even with the rest, Willard would NEVER get out of the Sectional/District. You have heard of Mansfield Christian, right? BTW, to compete were you think Willard should be, you have to start way before kids get to high school. Like with close to 500 in your Youth Soccer Program and be able to do it with less than 2% having a heritage where futball is #1 Just with that "heritage" % thing, Willard should already have more than 50 boys out for soccer, enough for 3 teams. WAY more than necessary to be successful. Does Willard even have a JV team? If not work on the 30% before starting on the 70%. You talk a lot of nonsense. First, Willard has 169 boys in the HS, that's about 56 per class so from k-8 Willard has 500 total boys and you think 100% of them need to play youth Soccer? Second, how many 200# football players do you think Willard has? Third, do you really think Willard has a bunch of 200# receivers, DB's, RB's etc? If Willard did they'd probably be going 10-0 every year and sending 5 or 6 on to the Big Ten. Fourth, with 30% of Willard's student enrollment brought up in a Soccer environment it puts Willard at an advantage over every other D3 program in the State of Ohio. Fifth, I was driving down Baseline Road today and out at the 'Muck' there was a nice little youth Soccer match taking place. Cars everywhere, jerseys, big fan fare and I bet not a single parent there spoke English as their first language. Willard's Soccer complex is 3 miles away on the north side of town, pretty sure this wasn't a sanctioned youth soccer match. Sixth, I see you edited your post so I need to edit this post. How in the world do you think 100% of kids of a certain ethnicity would go out for a sport. Do 100% of Caucasian's go out for Football? Baseball? Basketball? 30% of 169 comes out to 51 and you think all 51 would go out for a sport? Are you knew to this world? The Soccer Program would love for all the athletes on the Football team to come join them on the Soccer Field. Great things are in store once the football team is disbanded.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Sept 3, 2017 16:01:58 GMT -5
You obviously have flunked math since middle school and are ignorant about the OHSAA. Willard doesn't have 169 boys in high school, that's how many they had in the top 3 grades last October. Thus approx. 1/3 more boys means around 225 in high school. YOUR 30% with a "heritage" for soccer is 30% of 225 which is around 70. SURELY this strong "heritage" thing should mean around 50 are already playing soccer. What, the ones with a "heritage" aren't good soccer players?? You want that other 70% No school needs 200 soccer players. You also must have flunked reading. Try again on the 200 pounders. That alone makes the rest of your "dump" post worthless.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2017 22:25:00 GMT -5
DrugMart, Mansfield Christian has far less boys than you do and they have success with soccer only so there is not reason to think a school your size could not have success also.
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Post by galion on Sept 4, 2017 4:04:40 GMT -5
The disparity in the feeder programs would lead me to conclude probably not.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2017 8:42:59 GMT -5
The feeder programs that MC uses are open to the public. Willard kids could take advantage of them.
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Post by galion on Sept 4, 2017 9:43:04 GMT -5
I'm pretty confident that the majority of key players for MC play on some upper level travel squads that your average kid from Willard won't get invited to play on, nor could they afford to.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2017 16:17:39 GMT -5
Those are not the feeder programs . Those are the current players. The feeder programs would be the kids below high school that are playing to make a high school team some day.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Sept 4, 2017 19:12:10 GMT -5
There are soccer travel teams for kids below high school. Dozens of them were in Ontario a week ago.
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