sbc95
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Post by sbc95 on Sept 18, 2017 22:26:57 GMT -5
Why not Fremont Ross ??
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Post by greenman on Sept 19, 2017 1:32:38 GMT -5
If that's the case, that's absurd. It makes you wonder, then, if it's for the sake of "Catholic school unity," or making sure that all those small schools don't have any scheduling issues, or what. It also makes you wonder why the other three schools aren't bound to that same rule (anymore). It wouldn't surprise me, though, if you're correct. If you're question is why SMCC, SJCC and Calvert don't play each other in a round robin OOC schedule, the answer would be because they already play each other in a round robin SBC River Division schedule. What I should have written was "Why was that round-robin non-con schedule broken in the first place around '08 if it's something the diocese wanted?" Obviously now it's a moot question. Questions that, for me, aren't moot remain: 1.) Why would the Toledo diocese Dept. of Cath. Ed. feel the need to weigh in on the high school football schedules of its parochial schools? The details of the athletic schedules seem a little out of even their province. 2.) If indeed they did want to control decisions that far down the line, why wouldn't they do what's best for each program, and either try to maintain a fragile one or grow an ascendant one?
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Post by dolittle on Sept 19, 2017 9:50:51 GMT -5
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Sept 19, 2017 17:05:33 GMT -5
poultry
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2017 22:21:27 GMT -5
Because some schools are simply afraid to be in a league with schools that have an OHSAA enrollment number a couple hundred bigger than themselves.
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Post by Birdman on Sept 19, 2017 22:57:54 GMT -5
Sandusky showed they could and did beat FR. I think the enrollment excuse is a bit old.
The better competition the better you get, unless your talent is just lacking.
I don't blame schools or even the conference for not wanting them. It's very even right now.
I don't think anyone is plain old scared of them....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2017 5:44:35 GMT -5
Sandusky showed they could and did beat FR. I think the enrollment excuse is a bit old. The better competition the better you get, unless your talent is just lacking. I don't blame schools or even the conference for not wanting them. It's very even right now. I don't think anyone is plain old scared of them.... It tools literally last second td to beat Ross team stacked. Ross led whole game plus her offense led by lehmann is startingto fire on all cylinders to go with great defense, lehnann shattered school passsing records Friday throwing 427 yards and 6 td passes against division 1findlay .Ross beat sandusky from 2005 thru 2008 and 2010 thru 2015. The better competition you play will raise your lrvel
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Post by dolittle on Sept 20, 2017 7:50:44 GMT -5
I agree that competition gets you better.
However what people fail to remember is the large disparity between Ross the the bottom couple schools of the Lake Div. Fremont 435
Bellevue 242
Just never going to happen. And to be honest, they are better off in the TRAC, especially for Football. Because they would have an extremely difficult time filling weeks 4 and 5.
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Post by shadowking on Sept 20, 2017 10:35:05 GMT -5
But the SBC schools have no problem scheduling the crappy TCL teams. Suddenly enrollment isn't an issue? Too many egos will get bruised if Ross joined the SBC.
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Post by jafo on Sept 20, 2017 11:05:56 GMT -5
Whitmer 804
Ross 435
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Post by dolittle on Sept 20, 2017 11:37:16 GMT -5
Not the SBC fault that Ross is in a place where they don't wanna be, right?
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Post by greenman on Sept 20, 2017 12:11:35 GMT -5
Ross, to me, makes just as much sense as Columbian or any other Seneca Co. school, if not more. Fremont's on the Sandusky River, which flows into the Sandusky Bay. SJCC is already there. Between the old Ross and new Perkins rivalry, Sandusky would have a good ol' time, at least, and not just on the gridiron. Woodmore would then be the only Sandusky County district outside the conference (and before consolidation, Elmore was a longtime SBC member). The "numbers game" should only really be a concern for the Willards, SMCCs, Danburys, and Margarettas of this world. There's no Lake Div. football program that's in real danger of falling off. Sure, things in the Lake Div. would get a little bloody at first, but it could, with time, mold the division into one of northern Ohio's premier athletic conferences. Let's sharpen our swords, lads.
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Post by Birdman on Sept 20, 2017 12:42:16 GMT -5
Fremont89
I see your point, but Sandusky still won. FR shouldn't have allowed it to get to that point or even be that close of a game, from how good you're making them out to be.
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Post by shadowking on Sept 20, 2017 15:28:37 GMT -5
His koolaid has too much purple sauce in it. Let's not forget last year's 40-6 beatdown with both teams having the same players back this year.
Ross has scrimmaged Perkins, Norwalk and Clyde in the recent past. Those games were pretty evenly matched iirc. They have a rich history with Sandusky and Columbian. Hmmm I wonder who that leaves that probably has the biggest problem with Ross???
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Post by kingmartinez on Sept 20, 2017 17:55:55 GMT -5
Columbian has Ross back on the schedule in the future (unsure of the year). The biggest thing people are not making the connection to is just because you play someone does not mean you want to be in a conference with them. Fremont's best fit is the NLL. Not sure if will ever happens but that's where they belong. SBC vote was a unanimous "no" - 19 schools said "no". Zero said "yes". There was some loyalty there, of course, but the fact remains the schools that would be in their division do not want them in their conference for many reasons. The only place it makes sense for those making the decisions is on a map. No one can argue that.
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Post by birchbarlow on Sept 20, 2017 19:52:09 GMT -5
I don't know that Firelands has any real good reason to come to the SBC. I will say this though, if Firelands moves the the SBC, Vermilion would jump all over the spot they open up in the Patriot Athletic Conference. That's actually plausible, given Vermilion's weird obsession with Lorain County and points east. Would the PAC be interested in Vermilion, given their recent history of conference instability? Is there a better candidate school for the PAC that might be more mutually agreeable? Great question. At one point they (the PAC) were considering Lodi Cloverleaf, but that did not go far. I don't think there are really any other options. If Firelands left, and I don't think they will. I think the Sailors would slide right in with out a problem.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Sept 21, 2017 17:03:57 GMT -5
Ross, to me, makes just as much sense as Columbian or any other Seneca Co. school, if not more. Fremont's on the Sandusky River, which flows into the Sandusky Bay. SJCC is already there. Between the old Ross and new Perkins rivalry, Sandusky would have a good ol' time, at least, and not just on the gridiron. Woodmore would then be the only Sandusky County district outside the conference (and before consolidation, Elmore was a longtime SBC member). The "numbers game" should only really be a concern for the Willards, SMCCs, Danburys, and Margarettas of this world. There's no Lake Div. football program that's in real danger of falling off. Sure, things in the Lake Div. would get a little bloody at first, but it could, with time, mold the division into one of northern Ohio's premier athletic conferences. Let's sharpen our swords, lads. What will happen if Fremont is in the SBC?. Examples, what Sandusky and Marion have done when they gained admittance to leagues that made them the largest schools in the league. They won a few more games, their record improves. Kids had more fun, their record improves. Winning % goes over .500, their record improves. More kids go out and stay out, their record improves. Before you know it they're at the top of their new league instead of languishing near the bottom or middle of their old league, that had larger schools.
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Post by areafan1 on Sept 21, 2017 19:51:43 GMT -5
The bottom line is CLYDE runs the league and they are pussies when it come to Ross but the play Sandusky.
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