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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2017 10:19:48 GMT -5
The Houle kid left cc due to having to play JV as a freshman. Went to Oak hill and was on their B team and didn’t get any playing time. No way he would have started on this years cc team. Not sure he is close to being one of the better players in the area. Kid does have some potential. Wish him luck at Ontario. The Oak Hill "B", or more accurately the RED team, is THE varsity team. They won a State Championship last year. The Oak Hill GOLD team is their All-Star team made up of 4 and 5 Star players from all the country, thay go their for Free. Unlike the kids on the RED team that must pay $33,000/year to go to Oak Hill. Hey deathfromabove....................................read.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2017 10:21:48 GMT -5
Royalballdad:Willard did not say winning a Virginia State Championship, if you would have read it correctly you would have notice that it was Dude that said it. And then Dude said it this way, it would have been a much bigger deal to win a Virginia State Championship. Try your self to read first on who is posting what. Also Willard said he was sorry for making a mistake. Be man enough and accept his apology and let it alone instead of attacking more. Let it go man. This makes you look like a fool to anyone who actually did read this thread.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 17, 2017 15:02:55 GMT -5
I was asking about the 30 kids per grade that attend the youth programs and kids camps that this guy has been running for 30 years. now he is relying on move-ins to win games. you always say build it and they will come but nobody agrees with that for basketball. saying the best player is not a move in shows what you know You haven't bothered to read the answers already given that explain your newest query. PAY ATTENTION THIS TIME. Your number is not not accurate. Outside of the one week you mention, at the most 15 is all that makes a middle school team and they aren't developed by "he". AGAIN, all schools have years with fewer kids with the natural abilities and desire to be "developed". AND after being "developed" don't want to wait their turn. The OHSAA only allows coaches to "develop" 4 months out of a year. To be a good player they MUST have the desire to work on their game themselves, the other 8 months of the year. To prove your assertion, give us a list of Ontario's "move-ins". If there is no list, a short list or a list with no substance, you have proven your theory to have no worth. How would a team be affected without their only returning starter, a 6-7 two year starter, one of only 2 seniors on the team. Understanding their JV team from last year was below average?
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Post by gt1975 on Nov 17, 2017 18:38:38 GMT -5
I was asking about the 30 kids per grade that attend the youth programs and kids camps that this guy has been running for 30 years. now he is relying on move-ins to win games. you always say build it and they will come but nobody agrees with that for basketball. saying the best player is not a move in shows what you know You haven't bothered to read the answers already given that explain your newest query. PAY ATTENTION THIS TIME. Your number is not not accurate. Outside of the one week you mention, at the most 15 is all that makes a middle school team and they aren't developed by "he". AGAIN, all schools have years with fewer kids with the natural abilities and desire to be "developed". AND after being "developed" don't want to wait their turn. The OHSAA only allows coaches to "develop" 4 months out of a year. To be a good player they MUST have the desire to work on their game themselves, the other 8 months of the year. To prove your assertion, give us a list of Ontario's "move-ins". If there is no lost, a short list or a list with no substance, you have proven your theory to have no worth. How would a team be affected without their only returning starter, a 6-7 two year starter, one of only 2 seniors on the team. Understanding their JV team from last year was below average? Actually players can be "developed" by coaches most of the year by using the 4 player instruction workout. The only times they can't be "developed" by their coaches is 28 days after the end of season and the whole month of August. Those are the only times the OHSAA does not allow coaches to develop their players. However during the offseason practice/workouts cannot be mandatory so like you said the players must have the desire to do it. They don't have to do it by themselves but they must have the desire to put the work/time in with a coach. Going off what you've been saying, Ontario's problem seems to be that their players did not want to wait their turn so the players that they "developed" quit before reaching Varsity. It's ridiculous that people are questioning Balogh's ability to develop players after the success he's had during his 30 years.
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Post by deathfromabove on Nov 17, 2017 21:56:26 GMT -5
Royalballdad:Willard did not say winning a Virginia State Championship, if you would have read it correctly you would have notice that it was Dude that said it. And then Dude said it this way, it would have been a much bigger deal to win a Virginia State Championship. Try your self to read first on who is posting what. Also Willard said he was sorry for making a mistake. Be man enough and accept his apology and let it alone instead of attacking more. Let it go man. DFA, below is exactly what WF wrote. Keep in mind: Oak Hill Academy is located in the state of Virginia. "The Oak Hill "B", or more accurately the RED team, is THE varsity team. They won a State Championship last year" Maybe you should take your own advise on "read first who is posting what" And your right. WF, I accept your apology! No more attacking. Letting it go - now!
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Post by deathfromabove on Nov 17, 2017 22:09:14 GMT -5
royalballdad: My apology, when I read Oak Hill, I was thinking of the school down in Cincinnati I believe. That is what I was thinking of when all this happen. It is an honest mistake and I thought since we live here in Ohio that was the school we were talking about. Please accept my humble apology and let's get back to talking high school sports.
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Post by deathfromabove on Nov 17, 2017 22:40:00 GMT -5
The Oak Hill "B", or more accurately the RED team, is THE varsity team. They won a State Championship last year. The Oak Hill GOLD team is their All-Star team made up of 4 and 5 Star players from all the country, thay go their for Free. Unlike the kids on the RED team that must pay $33,000/year to go to Oak Hill. Hey deathfromabove....................................read. Dude: I was under the expression that since we lived here in Ohio that we were talking about Oak Hills down in Cincinnati not in Virginia. Maybe we should put either the cities names or the state they are from with the schools name. There are people that do not or have not heard of a Oak Hills from Virginia. I do not know if they are called a high school or a academy. So I am taking it as how would have read it as the high school from Ohio.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Nov 17, 2017 23:52:00 GMT -5
There's also an Oak Hill High School located in Oak Hill, Ohio (Jackson County.) They won the D4 Boys Basketball State Championship in 2009.
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Post by deathfromabove on Nov 18, 2017 3:58:08 GMT -5
There's also an Oak Hill High School located in Oak Hill, Ohio (Jackson County.) They won the D4 Boys Basketball State Championship in 2009. Bellevue: I wonder how many Oak Hills there are. I know of 4 or 5 Norwalk's in the United States. How many Bellevue's are there, any idea?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 7:01:13 GMT -5
Hey deathfromabove....................................read. Dude: I was under the expression that since we lived here in Ohio that we were talking about Oak Hills down in Cincinnati not in Virginia. Maybe we should put either the cities names or the state they are from with the schools name. There are people that do not or have not heard of a Oak Hills from Virginia. I do not know if they are called a high school or a academy. So I am taking it as how would have read it as the high school from Ohio. dfa, I understand your error and accept your apology. But to be clear the location of the school was not the problem you had. The statement was made giving a team credit for winning a State Championship which was incorrect and royal corrected it. It really didn't matter what state since it was a wrong statement anyway. The fact that you accused the wrong person of making that statement was what I pointed out to you. I can understand you mixing up the schools but be careful when making statements trying to correct an error when in fact the error was yours.
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Post by deathfromabove on Nov 18, 2017 19:40:50 GMT -5
Dude: I was under the expression that since we lived here in Ohio that we were talking about Oak Hills down in Cincinnati not in Virginia. Maybe we should put either the cities names or the state they are from with the schools name. There are people that do not or have not heard of a Oak Hills from Virginia. I do not know if they are called a high school or a academy. So I am taking it as how would have read it as the high school from Ohio. dfa, I understand your error and accept your apology. But to be clear the location of the school was not the problem you had. The statement was made giving a team credit for winning a State Championship which was incorrect and royal corrected it. It really didn't matter what state since it was a wrong statement anyway. The fact that you accused the wrong person of making that statement was what I pointed out to you. I can understand you mixing up the schools but be careful when making statements trying to correct an error when in fact the error was yours. Dude: Thank you and I will try to be more careful of that. Sometimes it is hard to figure things out on here. I could remember when I was little, I received a letter from the President that said Greetings. I was 10 years old at the time and I thought I GOT DRAFTED. Turn out to be a guy with the same name and birthday as mine but he lived in Norwalk, California. Someone at Washington put Ohio down instead. Now you know why I get so confuse sometimes. It would be an other 8 years before I volunteer for the army and Vietnam.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 19:48:47 GMT -5
As I have said many times I use this site is if I was sitting in a pub with a load of friends having a brew talking sports. We all have opinions and make mistakes at times but when we walk out we are all still pals. Well, most of us. Some we lock in the bathroom stall so we don't have to hear them.
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Post by deathfromabove on Nov 18, 2017 20:17:55 GMT -5
As I have said many times I use this site is if I was sitting in a pub with a load of friends having a brew talking sports. We all have opinions and make mistakes at times but when we walk out we are all still pals. Well, most of us. Some we lock in the bathroom stall so we don't have to hear them. Dude: Maybe instead of locking them in the restroom next time just board the whole thing up.
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Post by gatesofbabylon25 on Nov 18, 2017 20:44:15 GMT -5
No one go to scrimmages today? Know BV was home with Lib Union and Eastmoor I think is what I was told. No word on how that went I was at girls scrimmage
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 21:31:42 GMT -5
As I have said many times I use this site is if I was sitting in a pub with a load of friends having a brew talking sports. We all have opinions and make mistakes at times but when we walk out we are all still pals. Well, most of us. Some we lock in the bathroom stall so we don't have to hear them. Dude: Maybe instead of locking them in the restroom next time just board the whole thing up. That would be the blocking feature that many of us use.
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Post by deathfromabove on Nov 19, 2017 10:25:30 GMT -5
Dude: Maybe instead of locking them in the restroom next time just board the whole thing up. That would be the blocking feature that many of us use. Well if it's a country bar we can always use a tree. Never mine this one cause with winter coming and how cold it gets here there might be a lot of us you won't see till spring thaw.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 11:45:30 GMT -5
It's obvious your country bars a little different than the ones I have been in.
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Post by usa70pp on Nov 19, 2017 20:13:39 GMT -5
My country bars were just that...different. Japan, Mexico, Pakistan, Turkey, Germany, England, France, Italy, Greece, Holland, Spain, Portugal, Switzerland, Austria,...yes, my country bars were in fact different.
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Post by averagejoe on Nov 20, 2017 8:49:36 GMT -5
I was asking about the 30 kids per grade that attend the youth programs and kids camps that this guy has been running for 30 years. now he is relying on move-ins to win games. you always say build it and they will come but nobody agrees with that for basketball. saying the best player is not a move in shows what you know You haven't bothered to read the answers already given that explain your newest query. PAY ATTENTION THIS TIME. Your number is not not accurate. Outside of the one week you mention, at the most 15 is all that makes a middle school team and they aren't developed by "he". AGAIN, all schools have years with fewer kids with the natural abilities and desire to be "developed". AND after being "developed" don't want to wait their turn. The OHSAA only allows coaches to "develop" 4 months out of a year. To be a good player they MUST have the desire to work on their game themselves, the other 8 months of the year. To prove your assertion, give us a list of Ontario's "move-ins". If there is no lost, a short list or a list with no substance, you have proven your theory to have no worth. How would a team be affected without their only returning starter, a 6-7 two year starter, one of only 2 seniors on the team. Understanding their JV team from last year was below average? It is you who cannot read. Coaches are allowed to work with kids most of the year and I was talking about the young kids, not the ontario school teams. In my words a move in is somebody who did not attend in elementary school or maybe even junior high. So put that list together.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 20, 2017 16:02:42 GMT -5
YOU "put the list together" and post it. Since YOU are the one who broached the subject and think there are so many good basketball players at Ontario, not there in middle school. Don't list players that will never be a significant contributor at the varsity level, they would't influence the quality of the varsity team. Ontario's head coach and his assistants only work with "young kids" one week out of the year.
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Post by averagejoe on Nov 21, 2017 7:49:09 GMT -5
I know the roster and a list of move ins are there. post it yourself i don't need it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2017 9:04:09 GMT -5
Pretty sure they have 4 guys on the varsity that are either first or second year Ontario kids. May be more varsity and on jv and freshman teams.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 21, 2017 15:44:51 GMT -5
I know the roster and a list of move ins are there. post it yourself i don't need it. Don't be foolish. NO "roster" indicates "move ins", just gives height, weight, grade and letter winners If you know the roster give us the names of all the good basketball players that are move ins. You brought it up not me. You're making accusations not me. The burden of proof is on those of your ilk.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 21, 2017 16:17:30 GMT -5
Pretty sure they have 4 guys on the varsity that are either first or second year Ontario kids. May be more varsity and on jv and freshman teams. More untruths. All but 2 on varsity have been at Ontario longer than 1 or 2 years. "Good" is the operative word. Those that have an impact, are in the rotation, not those on the roster that play primarily at the end of games, when significantly ahead or behind.
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Post by averagejoe on Nov 22, 2017 17:13:12 GMT -5
dont be a fool. i didn't tell you the roster listed the move ins. I said I know the rosters and move ins are on it. you misunderstood the list to be literal. your mistake.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 22, 2017 20:39:45 GMT -5
I can't help your lacking in the written word. As we see in all of your posts
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 24, 2017 14:59:37 GMT -5
Strange scrimmage at Ontario this AM. In the 8 minute quarters: Huron didn't win a quarter against Upper. Ontario didn't win a quarter against Huron. Upper didn't win a quarter against Ontario, although they tied 2. I left when they went to 1 minute quarters. Probably a lot to do with what players are rotating when and against who. Surprisingly Upper only had 8 players and Huron only 9. Ontario was rotating 12, Joe still looking for the 8 that will play the most once the season starts. JMO, I think 2 or 3 of the current 12 will be playing on the JV team, if they want much playing time. Possibly Upper and Huron coaches have already made their decisions. Upper looked the best of the 3, their press and fast break in mid-season form.
Ontario is really struggling with PG play without Todd and Houle, the most important position on the floor. Three are sharing time now. A Junior with no varsity experience, a Soph with no JV experience and a Freshman. All are slight of build and not very tall.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2017 7:05:16 GMT -5
This is a post from bigox off of another topic I thought some on here may be interested in since it included Ontario.
Went to the Ontario,Huron and Upper scrimmage today. All three teams showed flaws that can be exploited.
Huron 4-2 Upper 2-3-1 Ontario 2-3-1
Upper 97 Huron 60 Ontario 64 total points.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 25, 2017 12:59:04 GMT -5
This is a post from bigox off of another topic I thought some on here may be interested in since it included Ontario. Went to the Ontario,Huron and Upper scrimmage today. All three teams showed flaws that can be exploited.
Huron 4-2 Upper 2-3-1 Ontario 2-3-1
Upper 97 Huron 60 Ontario 64 total points.Which means in the 1 minute drills: Huron was 2-0, Ontario was 1-1 and Upper was 0-2. I put far more importance on the 8 minute quarters at this time of year. By the total points it verifies my thought that Upper was the better team on Friday.
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Post by bigox on Nov 25, 2017 13:56:24 GMT -5
4 min quarters. They played 1 1min quarter to settle the second tie..
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