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Post by gatesofbabylon25 on Nov 30, 2017 5:31:09 GMT -5
BV at Big nut Friday and home with Orange Saturday to get season started.
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Post by usa70pp on Nov 30, 2017 6:10:25 GMT -5
See Ellis made 3 his only shot of the game. Didn’t know your son played at otterbein, I’ll keep up on his stats now. Like to follow up with all moac alumni. Galion gents is Houston Blair still playing. Used to see him at the marion ymca sometimes he has some game! How about a "MOAC/KMAC alums at the next level" thread as was on the football forum? I don't follow basketball that closely or I would do it.
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Post by gt1975 on Nov 30, 2017 11:52:58 GMT -5
Don’t see Blair on the roster, don’t see Tyler longstreth on Heidelberg, that’s to bad. That kid is one of the smoothest I’ve seen come from Marion County. I’m sure someone from Galion knows where Blair is now? Blair is not playing anymore. He transferred to BG.
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Post by 4 on Nov 30, 2017 17:27:38 GMT -5
See Ellis made 3 his only shot of the game. Didn’t know your son played at otterbein, I’ll keep up on his stats now. Like to follow up with all moac alumni. Galion gents is Houston Blair still playing. Used to see him at the marion ymca sometimes he has some game! How about a "MOAC/KMAC alums at the next level" thread as was on the football forum? I don't follow basketball that closely or I would do it. Good idea.
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Post by 4 on Nov 30, 2017 17:28:05 GMT -5
Anyone at Harding and Tangy game tonight that could give updates.
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Post by 4 on Nov 30, 2017 17:35:10 GMT -5
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Post by 4 on Nov 30, 2017 20:13:43 GMT -5
Down 9 at half. There best player might finish this game with 35+ lol. Been easy for him. Mitch Myers for Marion Harding has been nice.
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Post by 4 on Nov 30, 2017 20:56:44 GMT -5
Olentangy wins 81-59, gonna check out pleasant and northmor tomorrow. That should be a good one.
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Post by 4 on Dec 1, 2017 2:05:06 GMT -5
Browley out a week or 2 with injury, should improve a lot with him there best player back though.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2017 10:15:16 GMT -5
that is not ontario's roster. Shaquan Coburn and Logan Houle are both on varsity. both are move ins so you probably didn't want to list them Tavian(sp) Harris is another transfer. Correct?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 1, 2017 19:39:16 GMT -5
Transfer, Move or Open Enrolled? Three completely different scenarios.
In this case, if a "transfer" it must be from a private school to the public school district his family lives in. He can play right away. If moved, he can play right away. If Open Enrolled, must sit out first 11 games. Unless Open Enrolled in a previous year and didn't play until this year, then can play right away.
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Post by gatesofbabylon25 on Dec 1, 2017 21:35:55 GMT -5
BV falls at big nut
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Post by 4 on Dec 1, 2017 22:07:09 GMT -5
Big walnut that improved ?
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Post by gatesofbabylon25 on Dec 2, 2017 6:52:52 GMT -5
Don't know 4, I was at girls game getting updates from there. Crawford left in 1st qtr for BV with shoulder injury so that hurt them.
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Post by brownsguy on Dec 2, 2017 10:44:58 GMT -5
Hope all is well guys looking forward to watching some MOAC basketball this season. Please confirm, but I saw on BV twitter page this morning that Crawford gonna be out for the season with shoulder injury. If true, that’s a huge loss for BV. Does anyone know more details? He was all league last year and was almost all of their scoring. Big loss to start the year for BV is this is accurate info.
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Post by ohioraised on Dec 2, 2017 11:45:26 GMT -5
Transfer, Move or Open Enrolled? Three completely different scenarios. In this case, if a "transfer" it must be from a private school to the public school district his family lives in. He can play right away. If moved, he can play right away. If Open Enrolled, must sit out first 11 games. Unless Open Enrolled in a previous year and didn't play until this year, then can play right away. A transfer is when a student changes enrollment from one district to another. So a current season open enrollment change and a district move can both be transfers. When this happens for an athlete after 9th grade the 50% rule applies to all. Then in each case the student will be subject to the number of exceptions that are offered.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 2, 2017 12:45:00 GMT -5
At one time there was only a "transfer" as before the OHSAA Bylaaws made distinctions. Before Open Enrollment and other exceptions. Today there are differences between a true transfer, an open enrollment and a move.
There are 2 true "transfers" 1) The one time allowable transfer from a private school to the public school district the family lives in. 2) the "transfer" from one high school to another high school in a multi high school system in a major city school district In both situations the athlete can play right away.
I'm well aware that if a student open enrolls before the beginning of the 9th grade he/she can play right away, thanks for informing those who might not know. In this particular case the student being asked about is a Junior, so obviously the 9th grade rule does not apply.
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Post by ohioraised on Dec 2, 2017 13:29:57 GMT -5
At one time there was only a "transfer" as before the OHSAA Bylaaws made distinctions. Before Open Enrollment and other exceptions. Today there are differences between a true transfer, an open enrollment and a move. There are 2 true "transfers" 1) The one time allowable transfer from a private school to the public school district the family lives in. 2) the "transfer" from one high school to another high school in a multi high school system in a major city school district In both situations the athlete can play right away. I'm well aware that if a student open enrolls before the beginning of the 9th grade he/she can play right away, thanks for informing those who might not know. In this particular case the student being asked about is a Junior, so obviously the 9th grade rule does not apply. What seems to be unknown by you is that open enrollment has been an available in many Ohio districts for many years before it came to Ontario. So that fact that it is new to you does not mean the rules have changed since then. The OHSAA calls any student changing high schools a transfer student regardless of how it happens. The use of the exceptions deal with the circumstances. In the eyes of the OHSAA, ever name on a high school roster that was on a different school's high school roster last year is considered a transfer student. From there, they fall into different categories.
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Post by gatesofbabylon25 on Dec 2, 2017 19:41:01 GMT -5
Hear Crawford for BV is out for yr with shoulder. Kids had bad luck playing the last 2yrs. Will be tough for them but have talented sophmores to hopefully pickup some of the scoring
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 2, 2017 20:31:42 GMT -5
At one time there was only a "transfer" as before the OHSAA Bylaaws made distinctions. Before Open Enrollment and other exceptions. Today there are differences between a true transfer, an open enrollment and a move. There are 2 true "transfers" 1) The one time allowable transfer from a private school to the public school district the family lives in. 2) the "transfer" from one high school to another high school in a multi high school system in a major city school district In both situations the athlete can play right away. I'm well aware that if a student open enrolls before the beginning of the 9th grade he/she can play right away, thanks for informing those who might not know. In this particular case the student being asked about is a Junior, so obviously the 9th grade rule does not apply. What seems to be unknown by you is that open enrollment has been an available in many Ohio districts for many years before it came to Ontario. So that fact that it is new to you does not mean the rules have changed since then. The OHSAA calls any student changing high schools a transfer student regardless of how it happens. The use of the exceptions deal with the circumstances. In the eyes of the OHSAA, ever name on a high school roster that was on a different school's high school roster last year is considered a transfer student. From there, they fall into different categories. NOT "unknown by me". Do you know what year Open Enrollment was instituted in Ohio? I do. My point was the differences now since the OHSAA instituted Bylaws to regulate "transfers" and since the inception of Open Enrollment. Now a TRUE "transfer" is unique. Regulated completely differently form a move to a new District and Open Enrollment. If one uses the generic term "transfer" to describe the 3 uniquely different ways to get to a different school then additional information is required to distinguish between the three.
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Post by ohioraised on Dec 2, 2017 21:56:30 GMT -5
What seems to be unknown by you is that open enrollment has been an available in many Ohio districts for many years before it came to Ontario. So that fact that it is new to you does not mean the rules have changed since then. The OHSAA calls any student changing high schools a transfer student regardless of how it happens. The use of the exceptions deal with the circumstances. In the eyes of the OHSAA, ever name on a high school roster that was on a different school's high school roster last year is considered a transfer student. From there, they fall into different categories. NOT "unknown by me". Do you know what year Open Enrollment was instituted in Ohio? I do. My point was the differences now since the OHSAA instituted Bylaws to regulate "transfers" and since the inception of Open Enrollment. Now a TRUE "transfer" is unique. Regulated completely differently form a move to a new District and Open Enrollment. If one uses the generic term "transfer" to describe the 3 uniquely different ways to get to a different school then additional information is required to distinguish between the three. OHSAA uses your generic term of transfer to describe any student that changes enrollment from one district to another and they are the authority who sets the rules.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 2, 2017 22:25:19 GMT -5
NOT "unknown by me". Do you know what year Open Enrollment was instituted in Ohio? I do. My point was the differences now since the OHSAA instituted Bylaws to regulate "transfers" and since the inception of Open Enrollment. Now a TRUE "transfer" is unique. Regulated completely differently form a move to a new District and Open Enrollment. If one uses the generic term "transfer" to describe the 3 uniquely different ways to get to a different school then additional information is required to distinguish between the three. OHSAA uses your generic term of transfer to describe any student that changes enrollment from one district to another and they are the authority who sets the rules. Not MY generic term. What does the OHSAA do if an administrator calls them and says that he knows of a "transfer" infraction"? The OHSAA would have to say, "Which one?" AGAIN, what year did Ohio institute their Open Enrollment Program?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 3, 2017 0:16:53 GMT -5
After carefully perusing the program, talking to some in the know. I am proud to announce and clear up for those with issues, that there are currently 9 basketball players at Ontario High School that did not play there in Junior High. One Open Enrollment, two transfers and six that moved to Ontario. .
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Post by 4 on Dec 3, 2017 0:21:15 GMT -5
Marysville easily beat harding today. Harding lack of varsity experience will hurt for awhile. Browley warmed up with team. Didn’t play, much better team when he gets back. Don’t think they’re a top 3 team in moac until/ if they grow through out season.
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Post by ohioraised on Dec 4, 2017 15:30:56 GMT -5
OHSAA uses your generic term of transfer to describe any student that changes enrollment from one district to another and they are the authority who sets the rules. Not MY generic term. What does the OHSAA do if an administrator calls them and says that he knows of a "transfer" infraction"? The OHSAA would have to say, "Which one?" AGAIN, what year did Ohio institute their Open Enrollment Program? Exactly, which type of transfer. All are considered a transfer by the OHSAA.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 4, 2017 21:02:44 GMT -5
How can there be a "transfer" that is a transfer and "transfers" that are not a transfer?
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Post by ohioraised on Dec 5, 2017 15:40:32 GMT -5
How can there be a "transfer" that is a transfer and "transfers" that are not a transfer? According to OHSAA, any athlete that changes enrollment from one school to another school is a transfer. After that it is defined more by the specific situation, but all that fit that simple definition are transfers. "Hey kid, did you change from one school to another school?" If the answer is yes, they are a transfer student regardless of the reason. If the answer is no, they are not a transfer student. The OHSAA then may or may not take action based on those reasons for the transfer. It's fairly simple actually.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 6, 2017 17:48:35 GMT -5
Except, there is a "transfer" that IS a REAL transfer, per definition by the OHSAA. Not an Open Enrollment, nor a family moving from San Francisco to Crestline.
Again, in what year did Ohio institute their Open Enrollment policy?
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Post by ohioraised on Dec 6, 2017 21:11:25 GMT -5
What you need to accept is that according to OHSAA, by definition a transfer is any change from one school to another school in their eyes. Attending Mansfield and then open enrolling to Ontario is a transfer of schools. Attending Galion and moving to Ontario is a transfer of schools. Attending Columbus Eastmoor and then attending Northland is a transfer of schools.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 7, 2017 0:48:50 GMT -5
Accept??? I'm perfectly aware. There is no OHSAA rule about having to be generic instead of specific. I find it silly to call three things that are completely different the same. They have completely different bylaws adjudicating them, the same word. Why waste time? Instead of asking for fruit and getting a fuzzy spheroid that I don't like and making you return it, why not be specific and ask for an apple, get what I want and keep you from wasting your time? J/K
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