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Post by sportsjock on Dec 3, 2016 8:44:10 GMT -5
All the conference championship games playing out this weekend conjures up a big yawn.
In every single case except Wisconsin/Penn State, one team is a heavy favorite. We saw the first of two expected results last evening, with the Washington blowout of an artificially, over-ranked Colorado team. Western Michigan, over-ranked solely on their 12-0 record against mid-majors, de-legitimized their unworthy high ranking, by sliding by Ohio 29-23.
Alabama is benefitting by an SEC that is embarrassingly down this year and most certainly, should enjoy a laugher in Atlanta. The SEC is faced with the stark reality of the tremendous disparity throughout their league this year, with the 'Tide' doing their best to salvage the marked fall-off of respect they've earned the past decade.
Consider this, the Gators (ranked 114th in total yards) have scored just one offensive touchdown in the past 10 quarters, while the Crimson Tide on the other hand, have given up 10 points or less in their last ten games and has not given up a touchdown in their last 17 quarters.
With what's transpired last evening and what looks like one-sided affairs today (take exception to Wisconsin/Penn State), the final Playoff Rankings will most probably go unchanged from last week.
Enjoy a Saturday of great football, but don't expect any surprises....and try not to yawn too much.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2016 9:56:11 GMT -5
^^^ Good post, Tomorrow should be a lite day at the office for the committee.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 3, 2016 11:35:16 GMT -5
All the conference championship games playing out this weekend conjures up a big yawn. In every single case except Wisconsin/Penn State, one team is a heavy favorite. We saw the first of two expected results last evening, with the Washington blowout of an artificially, over-ranked Colorado team. Western Michigan, over-ranked solely on their 12-0 record against mid-majors, de-legitimized their unworthy high ranking, by sliding by Ohio 29-23. Alabama is benefitting by an SEC that is embarrassingly down this year and most certainly, should enjoy a laugher in Atlanta. The SEC is faced with the stark reality of the tremendous disparity throughout their league this year, with the 'Tide' doing their best to salvage the marked fall-off of respect they've earned the past decade. Consider this, the Gators (ranked 114th in total yards) have scored just one offensive touchdown in the past 10 quarters, while the Crimson Tide on the other hand, have given up 10 points or less in their last ten games and has not given up a touchdown in their last 17 quarters. With what's transpired last evening and what looks like one-sided affairs today (take exception to Wisconsin/Penn State), the final Playoff Rankings will most probably go unchanged from last week. Enjoy a Saturday of great football, but don't expect any surprises....and try not to yawn too much. Based on your sound analysis Urban should start preparing for Clemson TODAY. When Urban has 2 weeks or more to prepare for a game he's 44-2.
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Post by sportsjock on Dec 3, 2016 11:54:24 GMT -5
All the conference championship games playing out this weekend conjures up a big yawn. In every single case except Wisconsin/Penn State, one team is a heavy favorite. We saw the first of two expected results last evening, with the Washington blowout of an artificially, over-ranked Colorado team. Western Michigan, over-ranked solely on their 12-0 record against mid-majors, de-legitimized their unworthy high ranking, by sliding by Ohio 29-23. Alabama is benefitting by an SEC that is embarrassingly down this year and most certainly, should enjoy a laugher in Atlanta. The SEC is faced with the stark reality of the tremendous disparity throughout their league this year, with the 'Tide' doing their best to salvage the marked fall-off of respect they've earned the past decade. Consider this, the Gators (ranked 114th in total yards) have scored just one offensive touchdown in the past 10 quarters, while the Crimson Tide on the other hand, have given up 10 points or less in their last ten games and has not given up a touchdown in their last 17 quarters. With what's transpired last evening and what looks like one-sided affairs today (take exception to Wisconsin/Penn State), the final Playoff Rankings will most probably go unchanged from last week. Enjoy a Saturday of great football, but don't expect any surprises....and try not to yawn too much. Based on your sound analysis Urban should start preparing for Clemson TODAY. When Urban has 2 weeks or more to prepare for a game he's 44-2. I really think that's the beauty of the situation. The Ohio State staff has been able to get an early jump on scouting reports, game planning and strategies. I suppose the same could be said of Clemson's staff as well. I'm sure this began early this week. Not quite the case, from Alabama's standpoint, at least till last evening's results. I'm sure they've had people working on Washington as a more likely opponent. As they say, every day wasted.....
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Post by Rambo McClain on Dec 3, 2016 12:00:06 GMT -5
Based on your sound analysis Urban should start preparing for Clemson TODAY. When Urban has 2 weeks or more to prepare for a game he's 44-2. Not so fast, I think OSU will drop to #4 and get Bama. OSU will hear for a month how Bama is the greatest team/dynasty ever, greatest defense ever and how OSU shouldn't even be in the playoff.
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Post by sportsjock on Dec 3, 2016 12:05:39 GMT -5
1 Alabama - SEC Champ 2 Clemson - ACC Champ 3 Washington - Pac12 Champ 4 West Virginia - Big XII ChampThey are going to drop OSU from 2nd to 5th in the Final Rankings and say, no hardware = no playoffs. As if this is a real playoff. Mount Union just lost after winning 112 straight regular season games. That loss cost Mount Union a Conference Championship but it will not keep them out of the D-3 playoffs. In D3 they put the best teams into the playoff. The Big Boys just pick and choose 4 random teams and leave the best teams out. TCU in year 1, OSU in year 2 and 3. I can see, we can rely on your 'expert' analysis. D-3 is a different world. The two can't be used as comparisons
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Post by DrTorch on Dec 3, 2016 13:52:53 GMT -5
why not?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2016 14:43:22 GMT -5
Because D3 playoffs have 32 teams
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Post by sportsjock on Dec 3, 2016 15:08:13 GMT -5
D3 is more like high school without all the attached complexities.
This topic was discussed and argued ad nauseum on NOSF and everyone had their individual opinions.
We were so pleased when they had a true committee decide on the two finalists for the National Championship, then there was the BCS and a final four using a complex formula of various polls, including a computerization of many contributing factors.
Then the Playoff Committee was established and seems to be working quite well, with a few tweaks every year. The final four concept seems to be working in concert with the history and tradition of a great, postseason bowl system.
Expanding the participants doesn't guarantee the quality of the field of four we have now. In the three years, attrition has managed to narrow down and establish a rather clear focus on who should be in and who should not. Again, we are seeing that process play itself out this year.
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Post by Whittaker on Dec 3, 2016 15:42:32 GMT -5
Its true Alabama has an easy conference championship game. But let's not discount their SOS or division. Sagarin has the SEC West as the best division by far in college football and Bama's SOS as #7. Buckeyes are #15, Michigan #33, Clemson #47 Saban didn't have an easy road and they are 12-0.
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Post by DrTorch on Dec 3, 2016 15:52:35 GMT -5
Sagarin is a joke. Vogel Rankings were the best. Look at Bama's schedule and look at OSU's. Tell me whose you think is tougher.
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Post by Whittaker on Dec 3, 2016 16:27:02 GMT -5
^^^^ I don't disagree completely. Honestly I think the SOS's are similar. Point is, Bama played that schedule and went 12-0, winning every game by 10+. Nobody else could do that with a similar schedule. They haven't had an easy road as it seemed Sportsjock was implying.
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Post by Rambo McClain on Dec 3, 2016 16:49:49 GMT -5
^^^^ I don't disagree completely. Honestly I think the SOS's are similar. Point is, Bama played that schedule and went 12-0, winning every game by 10+. Nobody else could do that with a similar schedule. They haven't had an easy road as it seemed Sportsjock was implying. They didn't beat (5-7) Ole Miss by 10+. They squeaked out a 43-40 win over losing record, not very good, actually pretty lethargic (5-7) Ole Miss. The greatest defense ever gave up 40 points to a (5-7) team.
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Post by Whittaker on Dec 3, 2016 17:16:10 GMT -5
^^^^ I don't disagree completely. Honestly I think the SOS's are similar. Point is, Bama played that schedule and went 12-0, winning every game by 10+. Nobody else could do that with a similar schedule. They haven't had an easy road as it seemed Sportsjock was implying. They didn't beat (5-7) Ole Miss by 10+. They squeaked out a 43-40 win over losing record, not very good, actually pretty lethargic (5-7) Ole Miss. The greatest defense ever gave up 40 points to a (5-7) team. My bad, forgot that one. Looked it up and it was 48-43.
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Post by tommygunn on Dec 4, 2016 8:42:17 GMT -5
What some forget is winning a conference championship is not a requirement at all. 1 loss OSU vs a 2 loss PSU and UM, and OSU's schedule was tougher when comparing against both teams. OSU is in.
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Post by bbmind on Dec 4, 2016 11:02:19 GMT -5
No 2-loss team has ever made the playoff. It's only been two years but I like that data.
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Post by tommygunn on Dec 4, 2016 11:49:11 GMT -5
PSU vs Washington. That is what it is going to come down too. Sorry Michigan, you suck.
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Post by bbmind on Dec 4, 2016 12:55:40 GMT -5
Like I said 2-loss teams don't make the playoffs. If you guys ever sit around and wonder if it gets old knowing everything all the time I can help you out........it doesn't.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 4, 2016 13:00:42 GMT -5
What it came down to was having 2 teams from the same conference in the Four Team Playoff. Washington had the weakest non-conference schedule of all Power 5 conference teams. Penn State played Pitt, a non-conference rival and lost. Washington played nobody and won. Washington making it over PSU does not equate.
What this will do is cause Penn State to drop a rival game and schedule Hawaii.
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Post by bbmind on Dec 4, 2016 13:02:50 GMT -5
Washington has good wins also. It wasn't about two teams from one conference as much and not losing to a team that lost 4 gzmes.
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Post by sportsjock on Dec 4, 2016 13:02:58 GMT -5
Penn State vs. USC is going to be a great Rose Bowl.
Can't wait to see who Wisconsin and Michigan are matched up with.
Pretty exciting time to be a Big Ten fan.
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Post by bbmind on Dec 4, 2016 13:19:50 GMT -5
Not so much for being a Bengals bandwagon/wrongwagon fan.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 4, 2016 19:42:49 GMT -5
Washington has good wins also. It wasn't about two teams from one conference as much and not losing to a team that lost 4 gzmes. Washington has bad wins also. Won by 7 over 9 loss Arizona. Won by 7 over 4 loss Utah. AND a 13 point loss to a 3 loss USC. AND they had THE weakest OOC schedule of all teams in Power 5 Conferences. For other wannabees like Washington, they to will set up the easiest possible OOC schedule so they can over come a league loss and make the playoffs.
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Post by bbmind on Dec 4, 2016 20:27:36 GMT -5
And that might not work for them. Had Oklahoma beat Houston then Washington would not have made it. If you go for a homer in like Oklahoma you can't strikeout. They gambled and lost. Nothing wrong with that but losing 2 games is something yet to be overcame while not winning conference has now been overcame.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 5, 2016 15:29:06 GMT -5
NEVER, Purdue doesn't have a big enough football budget. AND Indiana has very few 4 and 5 star HS players. The best ones go to Ohio State and Notre Dame don't look now...but...i think Miles is going to Purdue Big-10 Network means everyone has a big enough football budget. Jeff Brohm from Western Kentucky comes a lot cheaper than Lesss Miles.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 6, 2016 15:58:00 GMT -5
14 U of M players and 10 OSU players make the All Big-Ten team. The AP voters were listed. Four were from Michigan including two from Ann Arbor. From Ohio, there was one from Cleveland.com, one from the Toledo Blade, which leans more toward U of M than OSU. None were from Columbus.
Outside of the OSU players, there were also seven players from Ohio high schools from other Big Ten Schools that made the All Big Ten team.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 16, 2016 17:15:03 GMT -5
Kiffin must have been desperate to get away from Saban. Head coach at FAU???
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Post by Whittaker on Dec 16, 2016 19:24:24 GMT -5
Kiffin must have been desperate to get away from Saban. Head coach at FAU??? Its probably tough for Kiffin, who has been a high profile head coach, to put up with a dictatorial boss like Saban. But the reality is, Kiffin has the duel reputation of a top notch OC and a disaster as a HC. No big established program wants to take a chance on him as the head guy. So...Kiffin takes a pay cut to get a head coaching job so he can rebuild his reputation as a HC while he is still young. But the only school that will hire a possible program-destroyer is a school without much of a program anyway. Enter FAU. FWIW, Die-hard Bama fans hate Kiffin almost as much as they hate toothpaste, but they grudgingly admit that he was a damn good hire as OC. And they worry that the next OC won't have the balls to stand up to Saban's micro-managing and second-guessing.
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Post by Rambo McClain on Dec 17, 2016 6:47:38 GMT -5
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Post by sportsjock on Dec 17, 2016 8:05:07 GMT -5
Kiffin taking the Florida Atlantic job has me scratching my head. In his rhetorical press release as the new head coach, he stated his "goal is to make FAU an elite football program".....really?
The Holiday Bowl is in complete state of confusion and a complete disaster at this point. With the Gopher players threatening a game boycott, advance ticket sales have to be slowed to a trickle. If the game somehow gets played, it will be in front an eery spector of empty seats.
What if the players carry out there threat, does Minnesota get a forfeit defeat assigned to them? Or is the game simply cancelled?
Did anyone else have the same level of disgust as I did, after viewing the recently released video of Oklahoma RB Mixon punching out a woman?
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