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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 20, 2017 15:17:14 GMT -5
Since early signing day was today, recruiting is in every Ohio State football fan's thoughts.
For those who don't listen to Urban Meyer press conferences. I found his answer insightful, to a question asked about recruiting THE most important position in all sports, the quarterback position.
The most important factors to look for.
#1 Competitive Spirit #2 Toughness #3 Leadership #4 Intelligence #5 Does he have the ability to get out of a bad play?
The above are innate qualities that cannot be taught if not there.
How the QB throws and runs is secondary, those can be developed.
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Post by 1percenter on Dec 22, 2017 9:25:17 GMT -5
The most important factors to look for. #1 Competitive Spirit #2 Toughness #3 Leadership #4 Intelligence #5 Does he have the ability to get out of a bad play? The above are innate qualities that cannot be taught if not there. How the QB throws and runs is secondary, those can be developed. I expect Urban to offer my grandson a scholarship in a few years. He hates losing, tough as rocks, leads his team, straight A student and he has the ability to get out of a bad play. He sucks at throwing and running but as you said those can be developed.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2017 9:53:31 GMT -5
1percenter,
#1 How do compete if you can't run or throw? #2 If you can't run or throw you will be tough because you are a linebacker. #3 Hundreds of kids playing are leaders, it doesn't qualify them to play QB. $4 See #3 and substitute intelligent>leaders. #5 If you can run or can't throw how does this happen?
Has Jt's throwing accuracy developed?
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Post by DrTorch on Dec 22, 2017 10:30:48 GMT -5
Since early signing day was today, recruiting is in every Ohio State football fan's thoughts. For those who don't listen to Urban Meyer press conferences. I found his answer insightful, to a question asked about recruiting THE most important position in all sports, the quarterback position. The most important factors to look for. #1 Competitive Spirit #2 Toughness #3 Leadership #4 Intelligence #5 Does he have the ability to get out of a bad play? The above are innate qualities that cannot be taught if not there. How the QB throws and runs is secondary, those can be developed. ROFLROFLROFLROFL! JT HAD 5 YEARS TO DEVELOP AND GOT WORSE! ROFLROFLROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by sportsjock on Dec 22, 2017 11:47:27 GMT -5
Uh.....J.T.'s 2017 completion percentage is 64.7%, equaling his freshman year. He has increased his YPC from 8.3 to 9.0 as well.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2017 12:01:21 GMT -5
Uh.....J .T.'s 2017 completion percentage is 64.7%, equaling his freshman year.He has increased his YPC from 8.3 to 9.0 as well. I good point when trying to argue a players development.
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Post by Rambo McClain on Dec 22, 2017 12:27:58 GMT -5
He has increased his YPC from 8.3 to 9.0 as well. Actually it's the reverse. www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/545624/j.t.-barrett2014 9.03 YPC - the best of his career 2017 8.30 YPC His completion % is equal this year, but after regressing 2014 64.7% 2015 63.3% 2016 61.5% 2017 64.7% Dwayne "saved OSU from defeat vs Michigan" Haskins 9.91 yards per completion this year, way better than JT's 8.30 Edit to add JT's QBR is a regression too 2014 87.1 - his best 2017 82.0 JT's career was a regression, he lived it backwards like Benjamin Button.
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Post by DrTorch on Dec 22, 2017 14:02:47 GMT -5
when I think of Cam Newton, I think of leadership
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Post by sportsjock on Dec 22, 2017 14:30:59 GMT -5
Who's thinking of Cam Newton? I think of leadership when I think of J.T. Barrett and his teammates and coaches allude to that fact as well. He is on target to surpass his best production for total yardage and passing TD's for a season. QB ratings can be rather convoluted, taken with a grain of salt, there are no absolutes. There are dozens of contrived formulas, take your pick.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2017 14:53:13 GMT -5
Who's thinking of Cam Newton? I think of leadership when I think of J.T. Barrett and his teammates and coaches allude to that fact as well. He is on target to surpass his best production for total yardage and passing TD's for a season. QB ratings can be rather convoluted, taken with a grain of salt, there are no absolutes. There are dozens of contrived formulas, take your pick. Specially when you don't know how to read them.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2017 14:53:33 GMT -5
Uh.....J.T.'s 2017 completion percentage is 64.7%, equaling his freshman year. He has increased his YPC from 8.3 to 9.0 as well.
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Post by sportsjock on Dec 22, 2017 19:42:01 GMT -5
Who's thinking of Cam Newton? I think of leadership when I think of J.T. Barrett and his teammates and coaches allude to that fact as well. He is on target to surpass his best production for total yardage and passing TD's for a season. QB ratings can be rather convoluted, taken with a grain of salt, there are no absolutes. There are dozens of contrived formulas, take your pick. Specially when you don't know how to read them. I stand by my comments.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 22, 2017 21:31:49 GMT -5
Thanks to Duane Haskins' 6 completions and no TD passes against Michigan, the Ohio State offense is on pace to have the most prolific passing attack in Urban Meyers' years at Ohio State.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 22, 2017 21:46:21 GMT -5
He has increased his YPC from 8.3 to 9.0 as well. Actually it's the reverse. www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/545624/j.t.-barrett2014 9.03 YPC - the best of his career 2017 8.30 YPC His completion % is equal this year, but after regressing 2014 64.7% 2015 63.3% 2016 61.5% 2017 64.7% Dwayne "saved OSU from defeat vs Michigan" Haskins 9.91 yards per completion this year, way better than JT's 8.30 Edit to add JT's QBR is a regression too 2014 87.1 - his best 2017 82.0 JT's career was a regression, he lived it backwards like Benjamin Button. FAKE STATS. The vast majority of Haskins' passes and yardage came in mop up duty against the weak sisters on Ohio State's schedule. FAKE STATS. Haskins only played in 1/24 of a season, the VAST majority of his minutes came in mop up duty against the weak sisters on Ohio State's schedule. One of the few TRUE stats out of your mouth this year had to do with with how much the Ohio State offense improved under the tutelage of Tom Herman and what happened in the 2 years with Beck as QB coach and O-coordinator and how it turned around with Day as QB coach and Wilson as O-coordinator this year. JT is the #7 rated QB in the country this year. In 2015 JT was the 18th rated QB in the country playing in the most difficult part of the schedule. Cardale was the 71st rated QB in the country playing against the easiest portion of the schedule.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2017 6:57:02 GMT -5
Uh.....J.T.'s 2017 completion percentage is 64.7%, equaling his freshman year. He has increased his YPC from 8.3 to 9.0 as well.You stand by that statement?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2017 8:53:36 GMT -5
Let me guess Fillmore is still making excuses as to why Barrett is OSU’s starting qb. He has one more game in his playing career. Let’s just let it end in peace
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Post by DrTorch on Dec 23, 2017 13:16:00 GMT -5
Actually it's the reverse. www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/545624/j.t.-barrett2014 9.03 YPC - the best of his career 2017 8.30 YPC His completion % is equal this year, but after regressing 2014 64.7% 2015 63.3% 2016 61.5% 2017 64.7% Dwayne "saved OSU from defeat vs Michigan" Haskins 9.91 yards per completion this year, way better than JT's 8.30 Edit to add JT's QBR is a regression too 2014 87.1 - his best 2017 82.0 JT's career was a regression, he lived it backwards like Benjamin Button. FAKE STATS. The vast majority of Haskins' passes and yardage came in mop up duty against the weak sisters on Ohio State's schedule. FAKE STATS. Haskins only played in 1/24 of a season, the VAST majority of his minutes came in mop up duty against the weak sisters on Ohio State's schedule. One of the few TRUE stats out of your mouth this year had to do with with how much the Ohio State offense improved under the tutelage of Tom Herman and what happened in the 2 years with Beck as QB coach and O-coordinator and how it turned around with Day as QB coach and Wilson as O-coordinator this year. JT is the #7 rated QB in the country this year. In 2015 JT was the 18th rated QB in the country playing in the most difficult part of the schedule. Cardale was the 71st rated QB in the country playing against the easiest portion of the schedule. by your definition of UM as a "Big Game" Haskins came in and threw more TDs than incompletions in a game where the starter was 3/8 and losing Haskins performed BETTER in a "Big Game" than JT did with nearly IDENTICAL pass attempts. Oops, what I meant to say is W
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Post by DrTorch on Dec 23, 2017 13:17:19 GMT -5
Cardale was undefeated as a starter. 11-0. Nearly an entire season's worth of wins without choking against a garbage team like VTech or MSU with a backup QB, or (lol) Iowa.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 23, 2017 15:42:04 GMT -5
Why was Cardale demoted? Against the 8 easiest games on the schedule he only had 8 TD passes and 5 INTs. Only completed 58% of his passes, no TD runs, very little rushing yards and no read option plays.
JT with stat's like that in wins would have brought out the hater banshees.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 23, 2017 15:51:33 GMT -5
FAKE STATS. The vast majority of Haskins' passes and yardage came in mop up duty against the weak sisters on Ohio State's schedule. FAKE STATS. Haskins only played in 1/24 of a season, the VAST majority of his minutes came in mop up duty against the weak sisters on Ohio State's schedule. One of the few TRUE stats out of your mouth this year had to do with with how much the Ohio State offense improved under the tutelage of Tom Herman and what happened in the 2 years with Beck as QB coach and O-coordinator and how it turned around with Day as QB coach and Wilson as O-coordinator this year. JT is the #7 rated QB in the country this year. In 2015 JT was the 18th rated QB in the country playing in the most difficult part of the schedule. Cardale was the 71st rated QB in the country playing against the easiest portion of the schedule. by your definition of UM as a "Big Game" Haskins came in and threw more TDs than incompletions in a game where the starter was 3/8 and losing Haskins performed BETTER in a "Big Game" than JT did with nearly IDENTICAL pass attempts. Oops, what I meant to say is W Not my definition, if you weren't a hater it would be yours as it is of all Ohio State fans. Ohio State coaches get fired if they don't beat Michigan. Your lack of knowledge is showing again. Haskins had ZERO TDs in that game. It was JT that had the TD pass AND a TD run. Haskins had one pass of 15 yards, the others were thrown 5 yards down field, in the middle of the field, on crossing routes. The yardage came on YAC by the receiver. Dr. Gypsy Card Reader can foretell the future and see that JT wouldn't have completed 16 passes in row, that there is a history of him doing. Haskins has no history of doing anything close to that.
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Post by DrTorch on Dec 23, 2017 15:54:25 GMT -5
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 23, 2017 16:03:33 GMT -5
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Post by Rambo McClain on Dec 23, 2017 16:36:35 GMT -5
Urban Meyer has lost 5 regular season games since he started coaching at Ohio State. JT Barrett has started in all 5 of those losses. I can't wait to get back to beating inferior teams next year.
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Post by DrTorch on Dec 23, 2017 19:19:54 GMT -5
did Barrett ever go 11 straight starts without a loss?
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Post by sportsjock on Dec 23, 2017 20:29:25 GMT -5
Did any QB in Ohio State history complete 16 passes in a row, prior to J.T.'s amazing performance? Didn't think so.....
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Post by DrTorch on Dec 23, 2017 21:02:21 GMT -5
no
did anyone throw 4 picks before JT did @ IOWA?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 24, 2017 0:26:28 GMT -5
Urban Meyer has lost 5 regular season games since he started coaching at Ohio State. JT Barrett has started in all 5 of those losses. I can't wait to get back to beating inferior teams next year. Here we go again. Dumbo Vogel actually believes that Ohio State should go undefeated every year and win the National Championship every year. MR. FAKE STATE man. Tell us, how many college QB's have won more games than JT over the past 3 years. Can't ask for 4 years, because you hate on any QB that is a starter for more than 3. Tell us, how many college QB's have a higher winning % than JT that have stated 30+ games in the past decade? Do you know how many NFL starting QB's this year have a higher college winning % than JT? Only FOUR and 2 only started for one year in college. JT has the 7th highest QB rating this year,
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 24, 2017 0:34:40 GMT -5
did Barrett ever go 11 straight starts without a loss? The QB who won 11 games has much worse stats than the QB who won 37.
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Post by DrTorch on Dec 24, 2017 14:36:59 GMT -5
lies, damned lies, and statistics
Championships trump everything.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 25, 2017 0:30:15 GMT -5
And neophytes like you think only one individual out of a TEAM of 150 is the sole reason for winning a Championship. I wonder how many high school, college and NFL coaches would agree with your theory?
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