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Post by shelbyrr11 on Mar 2, 2018 8:08:45 GMT -5
Of course we are because there is not chance more than one person could think there are stronger leagues in our area than the MOAC or the N10. Of course we do. We just don't trash the other conferences. It's one thing to say the OCC is undefeated thus far in postseason play. It's another thing to keep pointing out how many losses other conferences have and saying how terrible or weak they must be. I've heard nobody from the MOAC or the N10 try to argue that they are as strong at boys basketball as the OCC or SBC. So why are you playing this game? Should I not report that the Dow Jones Industrial Average has dropped 2.5% this week either? Dude may/may not have his impressions of each conference but I think it is rather fair to report on conference records as of a certain point in the tournament. I consider it to be a very common statistic to examine throughout each year. I know I look for that information all the way from the Big East in each March Madness to Coldwater and Marion Local's MAC conference in the football playoffs. It's also probably sexier at this point to report the MOAC and N10's record I'd imagine. 2-10 is more shocking than 3-3.
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Post by galion on Mar 2, 2018 8:30:29 GMT -5
I can't speak for the N10 but there is nothing "shocking" about the MOAC's performance in the tourny thus far. In fact it was completely predictable. Nobody was surprised by it. And why are we worried about "sexier"? This is just a message board not a tv news channel.
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Post by galion on Mar 2, 2018 8:33:30 GMT -5
You called Ontario football dysfunctional and it’s okay but calling a league weak makes them a bad person. But why do you feel the need to belabor the point. Rephrasing it, if you will, over and over again. You spend more time posting about MOAC losses and seeding than you do posting about your OCC conference's victories. Why is that I wonder?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 8:48:36 GMT -5
You called Ontario football dysfunctional and it’s okay but calling a league weak makes them a bad person. But why do you feel the need to belabor the point. Rephrasing it, if you will, over and over again. You spend more time posting about MOAC losses and seeding than you do posting about your OCC conference's victories. Why is that I wonder? Games get played all the time. It is common to post after a game. My interests are with family and friends playing, working relationships, my personal experiences and the street. All of those areas and sports are interests of mine. If you were correct in my posting on MOAC losses, they had over 94 of them so it would take someone a lot of posts to do that, but we both know that is a false statement. I hope that answers your question.
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Mar 2, 2018 9:42:17 GMT -5
I can't speak for the N10 but there is nothing "shocking" about the MOAC's performance in the tourny thus far. In fact it was completely predictable. Nobody was surprised by it. And why are we worried about "sexier"? This is just a message board not a tv news channel. I have no need to stir things up here, I really just like knowing the facts about conference performances. If it makes me a more knowledgeable fan at the end of the day, I'm for it. "Shocking" was misused here. I wouldn't suggest that the MOAC was going to have a banner tournament this season. But if I had to lay out the tournament record for each conference that we follow on this board (SBC, OCC, MOAC, N10, Firelands, and a few others), the worst and the best usually stand out. Having not compiled the information myself, I don't hate it when someone takes the time to point out such outliers. To the extent that I have read this thread, I don't think there was any sensationalizing aspect to reporting the MOAC's tournament record. Shelby will end up in the MOAC as things stand, and Ontario and Clear Fork are now in the MOAC. That merits a spotlight to be shone on how the conference is doing to a fan like me, for better or for worse.
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Post by raja on Mar 2, 2018 9:56:56 GMT -5
Okay, obviously some of you guys have way too much time on your hands, what games tonight ? Thoughts ? Should be good games now that the first round is over
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Mar 2, 2018 11:07:52 GMT -5
I'll be at both sectional finals in Willard tonight. I haven't seen any of these teams play in person except Vermilion on Tuesday night. I imagine Shelby can give Vermilion a pretty good fight. As for Lex/Clyde, I just want to see an OT thriller.
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Post by bgsu07 on Mar 2, 2018 12:21:45 GMT -5
Clyde is the best team I've seen this year. JMHO y The best team you’ve seen this Year??? Lex may have a different opinion. They slow the game down and win by 8 imo... One thing that Fillmore does very well is actually going to games to have an opinion...so he watched the game and saw that Clyde shot the lights out, outrebounded Ontario with the smaller team, turned Ontario over prob 20 times, and lead by 22 in the 4th quarter. That performance would have beaten many teams in the district that night. He watched every game that Ontario has played so why not have that opinion? I would love to know how many games and teams you have watched in the area...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 12:40:06 GMT -5
The best team you’ve seen this Year??? Lex may have a different opinion. They slow the game down and win by 8 imo... One thing that Fillmore does very well is actually going to games to have an opinion...so he watched the game and saw that Clyde shot the lights out, outrebounded Ontario with the smaller team, turned Ontario over prob 20 times, and lead by 22 in the 4th quarter. That performance would have beaten many teams in the district that night. He watched every game that Ontario has played so why not have that opinion? I would love to know how many games and teams you have watched in the area... When you justify his quote by confirming he only has knowledge of Ontario games, it becomes understandable. Most basketball fans in the area do make an attempt to go and watch good games when they can but I guess we do need to understand that some people are not true basketball fans, they are fans of only 1 team or 1 school.
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Post by galion on Mar 2, 2018 12:43:48 GMT -5
Oh boy this is going to get interesting really quickly.
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Post by bgsu07 on Mar 2, 2018 12:57:33 GMT -5
I am certainly do not want to get into a cat and mouse game of back and forth, just don't know why we always have to question ones opinion. We all have opinions about leagues and teams, I would rather listen to the fan who has been to 20-30 games a year than one that makes all opinions based on box scores.
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Post by mrsteel on Mar 2, 2018 14:36:22 GMT -5
With the Moac having so many thurs games, it is easy to see other games.
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Post by portwalk on Mar 2, 2018 16:45:14 GMT -5
y The best team you’ve seen this Year??? Lex may have a different opinion. They slow the game down and win by 8 imo... One thing that Fillmore does very well is actually going to games to have an opinion...so he watched the game and saw that Clyde shot the lights out, outrebounded Ontario with the smaller team, turned Ontario over prob 20 times, and lead by 22 in the 4th quarter. That performance would have beaten many teams in the district that night. He watched every game that Ontario has played so why not have that opinion? I would love to know how many games and teams you have watched in the area... Oh I get it because WF who watches teams against Ontario says "Clyde is the best team he's seen this year" not on the "night" they beat Ontario, no just the "BEST team" he's seen he is right? So I disagree with that statement and somehow I am wrong or not as informed because he watched Clyde once... The point is I believe Lex is a better team (WF saw them) and no I haven't seen them play however I have seen Clyde play and I just think that Lex is a better team based on the fact they beat an undefeated OG team that plays in the WBL and that's enough for me. I could be wrong but I guess we'll see tonight.
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Post by 4th & 1 on Mar 2, 2018 17:05:38 GMT -5
One thing that Fillmore does very well is actually going to games to have an opinion...so he watched the game and saw that Clyde shot the lights out, outrebounded Ontario with the smaller team, turned Ontario over prob 20 times, and lead by 22 in the 4th quarter. That performance would have beaten many teams in the district that night. He watched every game that Ontario has played so why not have that opinion? I would love to know how many games and teams you have watched in the area... Oh I get it because WF who watches teams against Ontario says "Clyde is the best team he's seen this year" not on the "night" they beat Ontario, no just the "BEST team" he's seen he is right? So I disagree with that statement and somehow I am wrong or not as informed because he watched Clyde once... The point is I believe Lex is a better team (WF saw them) and no I haven't seen them play however I have seen Clyde play and I just think that Lex is a better team based on the fact they beat an undefeated OG team that plays in the WBL and that's enough for me. I could be wrong but I guess we'll see tonight. It doesn’t mean they will win tonight but you do realize Clyde beat Lexington earlier this year right?
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Post by 4th & 1 on Mar 2, 2018 17:45:21 GMT -5
y The best team you’ve seen this Year??? Lex may have a different opinion. They slow the game down and win by 8 imo... One thing that Fillmore does very well is actually going to games to have an opinion...so he watched the game and saw that Clyde shot the lights out, outrebounded Ontario with the smaller team, turned Ontario over prob 20 times, and lead by 22 in the 4th quarter. That performance would have beaten many teams in the district that night. He watched every game that Ontario has played so why not have that opinion? I would love to know how many games and teams you have watched in the area... Clyde shooting stats vs Ontario: 10-27 from three, 37% 28-63 overall, 44% 12-20 free throws, 60% I personally don’t think that is shooting the lights out. Ontario shot a better percentage from the field, Clyde just had 12 more shots on the night. Ontario shooting stats on the night: 8-14 from three, 57% 24-51 overall, 47% 10-13 free throws, 77%
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Post by utsherman on Mar 2, 2018 18:40:43 GMT -5
Vermilion 26 Shelby 23 Half
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Post by broccolirob on Mar 2, 2018 19:10:35 GMT -5
Vermilion 45 Shelby 32 after 3Q
Vermilion up 50-47 with 2 minutes left
Sailors win 53-47
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Post by raja on Mar 2, 2018 19:20:37 GMT -5
Sailors win
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Post by utsherman on Mar 2, 2018 19:21:00 GMT -5
Vermilion 53 Shelby 47 Final
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Post by portwalk on Mar 2, 2018 19:36:39 GMT -5
I never saw Huron play , never saw Upper play and guess what called Upper losing huh...
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Post by portwalk on Mar 2, 2018 19:39:58 GMT -5
Oh I get it because WF who watches teams against Ontario says "Clyde is the best team he's seen this year" not on the "night" they beat Ontario, no just the "BEST team" he's seen he is right? So I disagree with that statement and somehow I am wrong or not as informed because he watched Clyde once... The point is I believe Lex is a better team (WF saw them) and no I haven't seen them play however I have seen Clyde play and I just think that Lex is a better team based on the fact they beat an undefeated OG team that plays in the WBL and that's enough for me. I could be wrong but I guess we'll see tonight. It doesn’t mean they will win tonight but you do realize Clyde beat Lexington earlier this year right? Yeah Clyde also lost to Norwalk twice... He said the "BEST TEAM he's seen all year so therefore in his opinion they are better than Lex and I disagree apparently you don't if Clyde wins would I be shocked no surprised...
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Post by portwalk on Mar 2, 2018 19:46:46 GMT -5
The MOAC & N10 are 2-10 to start the tournament OUCh The top 3 N10 teams have yet to play. Down goes Upper...
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 2, 2018 19:59:44 GMT -5
Of course we are because there is not chance more than one person could think there are stronger leagues in our area than the MOAC or the N10. Of course we do. We just don't trash the other conferences. It's one thing to say the OCC is undefeated thus far in postseason play. It's another thing to keep pointing out how many losses other conferences have and saying how terrible or weak they must be. I've heard nobody from the MOAC or the N10 try to argue that they are as strong at boys basketball as the OCC or SBC. So why are you playing this game? Would you rather be a team from a conference with a losing record or loser human beings? JMHO
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 2, 2018 20:02:45 GMT -5
One thing that Fillmore does very well is actually going to games to have an opinion...so he watched the game and saw that Clyde shot the lights out, outrebounded Ontario with the smaller team, turned Ontario over prob 20 times, and lead by 22 in the 4th quarter. That performance would have beaten many teams in the district that night. He watched every game that Ontario has played so why not have that opinion? I would love to know how many games and teams you have watched in the area... When you justify his quote by confirming he only has knowledge of Ontario games, it becomes understandable. Most basketball fans in the area do make an attempt to go and watch good games when they can but I guess we do need to understand that some people are not true basketball fans, they are fans of only 1 team or 1 school. He doesn't anymore. When Norwalk started losing more than winning, he was proven to be a fair weather fan. JMHO
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 2, 2018 20:23:01 GMT -5
The best Sophmore is leaving? Why? & Where to? He is probably talking about a kid that did not play this year due to injury and not the best soph that was on the court. That's my guess. It is being said that Cameron Todd has begun paper work to leave Ontario and enroll at Mansfield Sr to play better competition or bigger schools. Another untruth. Cam Todd lettered last year in basketball as a Freshman. This year was 2nd team All-League QB, though he only played in half of the MOAC games before breaking his ankle. According to a Mansfield Senior expert, his father has been talking to the head coach at Mansfield Senior for a year and a half about him playing QB at Mansfield Senior. Ontario will not have a good football team next year and Senior returns a lot of starters. His father is Open Enrolling him to Senior to play football against better competition and be noticed more. The Open Enrollment is being done before May to avoid the new Transfer Rule that should be approved in May. It is yet to be seen if he will be a big contributor in basketball at Senior. A MUCH better QB than basketball player. Ontario's Freshman starter this year in basketball Griffin Shaver, their leading scorer and 2nd Team All-League, is a MUCH MUCH better player than Todd was last year as a Freshman. Shaver was also the QB on the 8th grade team last year and the best pitcher and hitter in his class. But is now concentrating on basketball. Has good genes, his mom was 2nd Team All-Ohio. Talked to Benji at the Clyde game. He said that Shaver will become the best player in Ontario history. I've been thinking best PG in history. But Benji was 6-3 PG, First Team All-Ohio, who many think is the best player. The TRUTH, the whole TRUTH and nothing but the TRUTH. JMHO
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Post by fanofthegame on Mar 2, 2018 21:21:48 GMT -5
Vermilion 53 Shelby 47 Final I heard Shelby played without would be four year varsity letter winner Brady Hill. He quit. I’ll admit I am out of the loop this year. I only saw four games. I’ve heard about four other kids quitting. Anyone have any additional information about what happened?
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Post by mrsteel on Mar 2, 2018 21:28:57 GMT -5
The top 3 N10 teams have yet to play. Down goes Upper... Down go the Truckers........ Crawford and Carey win
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Mar 2, 2018 21:31:37 GMT -5
Lexington 66 Clyde 53
Final
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Mar 2, 2018 21:46:36 GMT -5
March 6th at Madison Middle School:
Mansfield Senior vs. Sandusky - 6:15 Vermilion vs. Lexington - 8:00
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Post by portwalk on Mar 2, 2018 21:49:51 GMT -5
Lexington 66 Clyde 53 Final I picked Lex by 8 missed by 5 however maybe Lex was a better team than Clyde...
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