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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 24, 2018 19:04:28 GMT -5
If they physically move into the district does it still count? Or just if they open enroll? a physical move does not count. however, lets for example say a kid lived in Norwalk's school district, but went to St Paul, after their sophomore season they decided to switch to norwalk.. (and none of the 11 exceptions were met) then you would be a transfer, and you'd have to sit out. if you open enroll it does count.. A one time transfer from a private school to the public school district the family lives in results in the athlete not having to sit out any games. Old rule or new rule. That happened this year at Ontario. Family lives in Ontario, they had been sending their son to Mansfield Christian. This year, his Sophomore year, the parents chose to no longer send him to Christian and send him to the school district they lived in, Ontario. He started for Ontario this year and did not have to sit out any games.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 24, 2018 19:36:54 GMT -5
Deer Park has 9 players that transferred in this year. Kinda wonder how they only have a 0 This year's competitive balance numbers are based on last year's roster. Always a year behind. It won't mean a change to what Division Ontario plays in, but being "a year behind" could be problematic for some schools. My guess is that there are 5 players on just their high school basketball rosters that will count on their CB adder next year, since it had to be turned in this January. That won't go out for basketball next year. Fringe players. They'll be like ghosts. Made teams this year, played very little or know they won't play next year, so won't go out next year. But will be counted in the CB number for next year, even though they aren't playing basketball. Another silly issue about Competitive Balance.
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Post by sportsvideo on Mar 25, 2018 7:20:32 GMT -5
a physical move does not count. however, lets for example say a kid lived in Norwalk's school district, but went to St Paul, after their sophomore season they decided to switch to norwalk.. (and none of the 11 exceptions were met) then you would be a transfer, and you'd have to sit out. if you open enroll it does count.. A one time transfer from a private school to the public school district the family lives in results in the athlete not having to sit out any games. Old rule or new rule. That happened this year at Ontario. Family lives in Ontario, they had been sending their son to Mansfield Christian. This year, his Sophomore year, the parents chose to no longer send him to Christian and send him to the school district they lived in, Ontario. He started for Ontario this year and did not have to sit out any games. ohsaa.org/Eligibility/Transfer unless they meet one of the exceptions, find that for me...
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Post by sportsvideo on Mar 25, 2018 7:36:16 GMT -5
so in theory what they're saying is we have to have these all stars to make our teams for post season?? Then they should A) separate public and private and have separate tournaments or B) Figure out how to get kids in their own district to come to their school.... IF we lose them we lose them. This rule will pass.. All stars? Who is talking about all stars beside you? Fact: A LOT of Division IV schools, particularly those in the bottom third-to-fourth of the division on enrollment, are barely able to sustain the minimum roster count for postseason play in many sports. This might not necessarily be the case in this part of the state, but in the Columbus and Cincinnati/Dayton areas it is true... especially in regard to the really tiny Christian schools (primarily Columbus area) and puny public schools that are landlocked districts (Cincinnati). Absolutely NONE of these schools are composed of "all stars", and effectively none of them have any shot of actually advancing in the tournament beyond the first or second round anyway. The base of the enrollment pyramid, when it comes to divisional assignments and the competitive balance adjustment, lies in Division IV. You can NOT have a completed Division III until you first establish the bottom 25% (in enrollment terms) of all the OHSAA schools for a given sport. Herein lies the issue, it is going to be very problematic for enough involved parties (schools, district organizers and the OHSAA at-large) when the smallest of the small have to withdraw from the tournament because they can't guarantee that they'll have nine healthy baseball players (as in, no injuries during the year if they have 10 to start... often the case) when the tournament rolls around. Additionally, if you can not field enough varsity sports (minimum two) in each season (fall, winter, and spring) in a given year then your school's OHSAA membership is suspended for two years. That's the other crux of the issue: if the rule passes, then it becomes 10x harder for these schools to even field the # of teams necessary to sustain OHSAA membership as they often lack enough kids within their building from the beginning to sustain a team. And these schools that will be directly affected aren't even the Harvest Prep or Africentrics or what have you - they're schools that you likely have never even heard of. Regardless, it would affect everyone in the end. Please give me some examples of schools in the columbus area that this rule hurts? please tell me under the current system if these teams are able to compete with the current rule of 50% for the first half of the season. When i see a team with enrollment of 44 boys and a competitive balance of 42, and they are in the state championship, yes that raises a red flag to me! public or private.. NO not in all cases is this going to be fair for someone like a SHEKINAH CHRISTIAN who has 17 boys is this going to be fair... then again they made it all the way to the regional finals in volleyball 2 years ago with enrollment of 24 girls, thats impressive or is it?
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Post by ohioraised on Mar 25, 2018 8:55:10 GMT -5
I love this new rule idea and cannot wait to see it in affect next year.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2018 12:08:49 GMT -5
Pease give me some examples of schools in the columbus area that this rule hurts? please tell me under the current system if these teams are able to compete with the current rule of 50% for the first half of the season. When i see a team with enrollment of 44 boys and a competitive balance of 42, and they are in the state championship, yes that raises a red flag to me! public or private.. NO not in all cases is this going to be fair for someone like a SHEKINAH CHRISTIAN who has 17 boys is this going to be fair... then again they made it all the way to the regional finals in volleyball 2 years ago with enrollment of 24 girls, thats impressive or is it? I have never heard of one school who has not been able to filed a team because of the rule a kid has to sit. Kids have already been sitting, now they just have to do it at the end of the season. Every school will be able to field a team. The difference is some of those teams may not be as good as they have been. And for that, we thanks you OHSAA.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 25, 2018 21:43:15 GMT -5
A one time transfer from a private school to the public school district the family lives in results in the athlete not having to sit out any games. Old rule or new rule. That happened this year at Ontario. Family lives in Ontario, they had been sending their son to Mansfield Christian. This year, his Sophomore year, the parents chose to no longer send him to Christian and send him to the school district they lived in, Ontario. He started for Ontario this year and did not have to sit out any games. ohsaa.org/Eligibility/Transfer unless they meet one of the exceptions, find that for me... Bad link, that's ok, don't have to read it for the umpteenth time. No exception needed. The only requirement is as I stated. An athlete does not have to sit out any games if they transfer from a private school to the public school district their family lives in. The same exact scenario occurred with Campbell who played for St. Petes last year and played for Madison this year, without having to sit out any games. As his family lived in the Madison school district. This can be done once only, no back and forth without sitting out half the season.
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Post by sportsvideo on Mar 27, 2018 5:03:02 GMT -5
Bad link, that's ok, don't have to read it for the umpteenth time. No exception needed. The only requirement is as I stated. An athlete does not have to sit out any games if they transfer from a private school to the public school district their family lives in. The same exact scenario occurred with Campbell who played for St. Petes last year and played for Madison this year, without having to sit out any games. As his family lived in the Madison school district. This can be done once only, no back and forth without sitting out half the season. gold star for you! that is mentioned under EXCEPTION RULE #9.. so it does qualify as one of the exceptions providing the parents have lived in the public schools district for more than one year...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 22:13:24 GMT -5
Once the new rule is in place a kid will have to give up 11 games plus a tournament season. We shall see how many parents will make the happen. If parents are forced to actually pick up and move they may rethink the importance of a transfer.
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