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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Aug 2, 2018 9:14:09 GMT -5
So here's Bellevue's schedule page on arbiterlive: arbiterlive.com/Teams/Schedule/5109889Kinda hard to know what to believe and not to believe on that page since there are several inconsistencies, such as the fact the 2018 schedule is still missing 2 games and the 2020 schedule shows us having 2 different games on September 4th But anyway, it appears that Bellevue has added a week 2 home and home with Hunting Valley University School for 2019 and 2020, replacing Clear Fork's spot on the current schedule. University School is located just a few miles away from Pepper Pike Orange, where Bellevue played a regional quarterfinal last year. Arbiterlive also shows the previously reported additions of week 1 Port Clinton and week 3 Mansfield Madison to the 2019 and 2020 schedules, replacing CCC and West Holmes. Clear Fork also shows up on the 2019 schedule in week 4, and also on the 2020 schedule....in week 2...on the same day as University School. Not sure what to make of that. It could be that Clear Fork is being moved to week 4 for both of those years and that Arbiterlive has the wrong date for 2020. Or it could be that University School is actually the week 4 game both years and Clear Fork is staying in week 2. Or it could mean that Clear Fork was removed from the schedule altogether but was just never updated on Arbiterlive. As for Week 5, while the @ Toledo Start game is missing from the 2018 schedule, there is a home game against Toledo Start listed for 2019...and then nothing for 2020. Oh, and while there's no 2021 Bellevue schedule on there, there is one for 2022....and the only game listed is home against Shelby on September 10th, which would be week 3. Is that the earliest the Bellevue-Shelby series will be renewed? Edit: I now see that every school schedule is missing 2021 but has 2022....and that the dates they list for 2022 actually line up with 2021. So this Bellevue/Shelby game is most lilkely on Friday 9/10/21 and not Saturday 9/10/22. Edit: Clear Fork's Arbiter live schedule shows: 2019 Week 4: Bellevue and Buckeye Valley 2020 Week 2: Bellevue and Granville 2020 Week 4: Buckeye Valley ...and Buckeye Valley is leaving the MOAC after this season. So it's most likely that Bellevue is replacing Buckeye Valley on Clear Fork's schedule for week 4 in both 2019 and 2020, and that Arbiterlive has mistakenly listed the 2020 game as being week 2
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Aug 2, 2018 9:52:54 GMT -5
Here are the future non-conference games for the Lake Division schools that are currently listed on Arbiterlive Note, Columbian's schedules are not listed on there at all.
Bellevue
2019
Week 1 at Port Clinton Week 2 vs University School Week 3 at Mansfield Madison Week 4 at Clear Fork Week 5 vs Toledo Start
2020
Week 1 vs Port Clinton Week 2 at University School Week 3 vs Mansfield Madison Week 4 vs Clear Fork (actually listed in week 2, most likely week 4)
2021
Week 3 vs Shelby
Clyde
2020
Week 1 at Toledo St Francis (Glass Bowl)
Norwalk
2019
Week 2 vs Huron Week 3 vs Port Clinton Week 4 at Edison Week 5 vs Ontario
2020
Week 5 at Ontario
Perkins
2019
Week 1 at Elyria Catholic Week 5 vs Huron
Sandusky
2019
Week 1 at Padua Franciscan Week 3 at Fremont Ross Week 4 vs Ashland Week 5 at Mansfield Senior
2020
Week 4 at Ashland
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Post by clydesbcfan on Aug 2, 2018 11:10:33 GMT -5
Clyde 2019 Week 1 - Toledo St Francis WEek 2 - Ashland Week 3 - @ Start Week 4 - Open WEek 5 - Port Clinton
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Aug 2, 2018 11:33:11 GMT -5
Bay Schools future non-conference games listed on Arbiterlive:
Edison
2019
Week 1 vs Firelands Week 2 at Seneca East Week 3 at Western Reserve Week 4 vs Norwalk Week 5 vs Toledo Woodward
Huron
2019
Week 2 at Norwalk Week 3 vs Genoa Week 4 vs Toledo Waite Week 5 at Perkins
Oak Harbor
2019
Week 1 at Fostoria Week 2 vs Genoa Week 3 at Rossford Week 4 at Toledo Woodward Week 5 vs Toledo Bowsher
2020
Week 1 vs Fostoria Week 2 at Genoa Week 3 vs Rossford Week 4 vs Toledo Woodward Week 5 at Toledo Bowsher
2021
Week 4 at Toledo Woodward
Port Clinton
2019
Week 1 vs Bellevue Week 2 vs Rossford Week 3 at Norwalk Week 4 vs Toledo Bowsher
2020
Week 1 at Bellevue Week 4 at Toledo Bowsher
Vermilion
2019
Week 1 at Fairview Park
2020
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Post by sharonpeters on Aug 2, 2018 12:17:43 GMT -5
I see Oak Harbor is really taking on some tough teams ( dripping with sarcasm ). You go Drew, maybe if you schedule things right May will have a winning record.
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Post by jmorgret07 on Aug 2, 2018 20:01:40 GMT -5
I see Oak Harbor is really taking on some tough teams ( dripping with sarcasm ). You go Drew, maybe if you schedule things right May will have a winning record. FWIW, Drew Grahl is no longer the athletic director at Oak Harbor.
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Post by areafan1 on Aug 2, 2018 20:55:01 GMT -5
I see Oak Harbor is really taking on some tough teams ( dripping with sarcasm ). You go Drew, maybe if you schedule things right May will have a winning record. I agree its not the schedule of old when when Quiz was there. Every year OH should start at least 3-2. Fostoria will never be good. Woodward and Bowsher are bad. They can even beat Rossford once in while.
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Post by sharonpeters on Aug 3, 2018 4:40:31 GMT -5
Didnt know Drew was gone. Thats a start in the right direction anyways.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Aug 3, 2018 7:51:31 GMT -5
Here's what's listed for Willard's future schedules.
For these two years they start off with 3 games against neighboring districts, then have two weeks against teams from east of Cleveland/Akron before beginning Bay Division play. The future home games against Bay schools were listed, so I included them.
2019
Week 1 at South Central Week 2 at Plymouth Week 3 vs Seneca East Week 4 vs Ravenna Southeast Week 5 vs Newbury
Week 9 vs Port Clinton Week 10 vs Vermilion
2020
Week 1 vs South Central Week 2 vs Plymouth Week 3 at Seneca East Week 4 at Ravenna Southeast Week 5 at Newbury
Week 6 vs Huron Week 7 vs Edison Week 9 vs Oak Harbor
2021
Week 1 at South Central
Week 8 vs Port Clinton Week 10 vs Vermilion
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Post by sportsvideo on Aug 3, 2018 17:49:43 GMT -5
I see Oak Harbor is really taking on some tough teams ( dripping with sarcasm ). You go Drew, maybe if you schedule things right May will have a winning record. Who do you want to play? teams 120 miles away? its a challenge to find a quality mix during a week you need a game! nobody here wants to do nothing but SBC crossovers. so you hope to find a good mix. Drew is a great person, have known him for a long long time.
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Post by richrod on Aug 3, 2018 18:37:20 GMT -5
pretty soon those bay teams won't want to play norwalk when they get rolling. Who didn't want to play a Mac Norwalk team haha. As soon as Perkins rebounds they will drop them too.
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Post by kingmartinez on Aug 3, 2018 19:31:07 GMT -5
I'm still not sure why the Bay won't play the Lake schools in two crossovers in weeks 4 and 5 since the River will be filled weeks 4-7 with 8 teams. Many play Lake schools already. Maybe when Norwalk plays up to their abilities and the Toledo schools get worn out, it will change. Could really solidify the league's stability IMO.
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Post by areafan1 on Aug 3, 2018 20:28:10 GMT -5
I see Oak Harbor is really taking on some tough teams ( dripping with sarcasm ). You go Drew, maybe if you schedule things right May will have a winning record. Who do you want to play? teams 120 miles away? its a challenge to find a quality mix during a week you need a game! nobody here wants to do nothing but SBC crossovers. so you hope to find a good mix. Drew is a great person, have known him for a long long time. Two years ago Oak Harbor dropped Eastwood to play Woodmore for one.
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Post by redskinfan04 on Aug 3, 2018 20:39:29 GMT -5
I'm still not sure why the Bay won't play the Lake schools in two crossovers in weeks 4 and 5 since the River will be filled weeks 4-7 with 8 teams. Many play Lake schools already. Maybe when Norwalk plays up to their abilities and the Toledo schools get worn out, it will change. Could really solidify the league's stability IMO. Port Clinton is playing Sandusky, Norwalk and Clyde out of the lake this year. We scrimmage Perkins and next year we add Bellevue to replace Sandusky. We are doing our part.
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Post by sportsvideo on Aug 3, 2018 21:16:32 GMT -5
I'm still not sure why the Bay won't play the Lake schools in two crossovers in weeks 4 and 5 since the River will be filled weeks 4-7 with 8 teams. Many play Lake schools already. Maybe when Norwalk plays up to their abilities and the Toledo schools get worn out, it will change. Could really solidify the league's stability IMO. who isn't playing 2 crossovers? or what you really meant to say was Why Doesn't this team play our Team? lol but to respond to that in the non-political way.. for the same reason why the River won't play the Bay ....
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Post by sportsvideo on Aug 3, 2018 21:19:23 GMT -5
Who do you want to play? teams 120 miles away? its a challenge to find a quality mix during a week you need a game! nobody here wants to do nothing but SBC crossovers. so you hope to find a good mix. Drew is a great person, have known him for a long long time. Two years ago Oak Harbor dropped Eastwood to play Woodmore for one. <iframe width="18.75999999999999" height="5.480000000000018" style="position: absolute; width: 18.75999999999999px; height: 5.480000000000018px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_24127208" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="18.75999999999999" height="5.480000000000018" style="position: absolute; width: 18.76px; height: 5.48px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 883px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_93078322" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="18.75999999999999" height="5.480000000000018" style="position: absolute; width: 18.76px; height: 5.48px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 212px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_69628989" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="18.75999999999999" height="5.480000000000018" style="position: absolute; width: 18.76px; height: 5.48px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 883px; top: 212px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_87788809" scrolling="no"></iframe> maybe because in 2016 they beat eastwood, and eastwood got mad and left? lol
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Post by kingmartinez on Aug 4, 2018 8:55:42 GMT -5
Crossovers = weeks 4 and 5, not weeks 1-3. Edison and Oak Harbor are the main "have your cake and eat it too" schools. Edison will start to feel the challenge of success with their non-league schedules which makes me hopeful it will change the conversation in the future.
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Post by redskinfan04 on Aug 4, 2018 12:20:52 GMT -5
Crossovers = weeks 4 and 5, not weeks 1-3. Edison and Oak Harbor are the main "have your cake and eat it too" schools. Edison will start to feel the challenge of success with their non-league schedules which makes me hopeful it will change the conversation in the future. Edison is the king of picking and choosing when and who they are willing to play on the JV/Frosh level. I hope that the SBC has stepped in and put an end to Edison doing this. You either have a team or you do not.
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Post by sportsvideo on Aug 4, 2018 13:26:26 GMT -5
Crossovers = weeks 4 and 5, not weeks 1-3. Edison and Oak Harbor are the main "have your cake and eat it too" schools. Edison will start to feel the challenge of success with their non-league schedules which makes me hopeful it will change the conversation in the future. i think in time you'll see it.. i know there some teams in the Lake I'd love on schedule but the other part is.. you don't want too many or you kill your computer points chances.. Nothing is worse than the false sense of thinking you're a good program.. Find a team or two that can punch you in the mouth,,challenge your kids..beating a team 50-7 or running clock is not challenging your kids... but everyone should have at least one cross over somewhere...
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Post by dolittle on Aug 4, 2018 13:28:03 GMT -5
Crossovers = weeks 4 and 5, not weeks 1-3. Edison and Oak Harbor are the main "have your cake and eat it too" schools. Edison will start to feel the challenge of success with their non-league schedules which makes me hopeful it will change the conversation in the future. i think in time you'll see it.. i know there some teams in the Lake I'd love on schedule but the other part is.. you don't want too many or you kill your computer points chances.. Nothing is worse than the false sense of thinking you're a good program.. Find a team or two that can punch you in the mouth,,challenge your kids..beating a team 50-7 or running clock is not challenging your kids... but everyone should have at least one cross over somewhere... Beating a team 50-7 and having 6 fans on the visiting side too.
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Post by areafan1 on Aug 4, 2018 17:51:47 GMT -5
I'm still not sure why the Bay won't play the Lake schools in two crossovers in weeks 4 and 5 since the River will be filled weeks 4-7 with 8 teams. Many play Lake schools already. Maybe when Norwalk plays up to their abilities and the Toledo schools get worn out, it will change. Could really solidify the league's stability IMO. who isn't playing 2 crossovers? or what you really meant to say was Why Doesn't this team play our Team? lol but to respond to that in the non-political way.. for the same reason why the River won't play the Bay .... Sorry your wrong, I'm friends with Eastwood AD and he was upset when Oak Harbor dropped Eastwood to pick up Woodmore to soften their schedule. And they did upset Eastwood on soon big plays.
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Post by sportsvideo on Aug 5, 2018 0:36:21 GMT -5
who isn't playing 2 crossovers? or what you really meant to say was Why Doesn't this team play our Team? lol but to respond to that in the non-political way.. for the same reason why the River won't play the Bay .... Sorry your wrong, I'm friends with Eastwood AD and he was upset when Oak Harbor dropped Eastwood to pick up Woodmore to soften their schedule. And they did upset Eastwood on soon big plays. was being sarcastic. but i do think its more than an AD decision on schedule..
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Post by sharonpeters on Aug 6, 2018 12:36:07 GMT -5
Known Drew a long time too. Never said he wasn't a great guy, but OH football sure took a fall with him and May at the controls.
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Post by sportsvideo on Aug 6, 2018 21:37:33 GMT -5
Known Drew a long time too. Never said he wasn't a great guy, but OH football sure took a fall with him and May at the controls. football schedules are usually a decision made by AD and coach.. i think most AD's allow their coach to change up there non-conference to how they want it.. obviously you can't always play who you want but someone similar in style/competitiveness.. So its probably more on the coach than the AD thats my guess in this situation..
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Sept 10, 2018 12:18:25 GMT -5
Tiffin Columbian now has some future games listed:
2019
Week 1 at Fremont Ross Week 2 vs Toledo Waite Week 3 at Ashland Week 4 vs Toledo Start Week 5 at Vermilion
2020
Week 2 at Toledo Waite
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2018 15:41:46 GMT -5
^^^^^I have an idea, Looks like Columbian needs a week 1 game, And Huron needs a week 1 game next year as well. So why don't both of them look to the Cincinnati area for games, for week 1. For Columbian, Roger Bacon (D4) is available. For Huron, Bethel-Tate (D5) has an opening.
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Post by hhsfan90 on Sept 11, 2018 17:50:52 GMT -5
^^^^^I have an idea, Looks like Columbian needs a week 1 game, And Huron needs a week 1 game next year as well. So why don't both of them look to the Cincinnati area for games, for week 1. For Columbian, Roger Bacon (D4) is available. For Huron, Bethel-Tate (D5) has an opening. Or they just play each other?
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Post by shadowking on Sept 11, 2018 17:59:42 GMT -5
Thought I saw somewhere where Columbian opens at Fremont Ross next season
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Post by kniteflyer on Sept 11, 2018 18:24:21 GMT -5
^^^^^I have an idea, Looks like Columbian needs a week 1 game, And Huron needs a week 1 game next year as well. So why don't both of them look to the Cincinnati area for games, for week 1. For Columbian, Roger Bacon (D4) is available. For Huron, Bethel-Tate (D5) has an opening. Or they just play each other? Clearly your sarcasm meter is broken Fan90.
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Post by Nelson on Sept 11, 2018 18:34:41 GMT -5
Thought I saw somewhere where Columbian opens at Fremont Ross next season Shadow Someone at Ross game told me Fremont don't play Holland or Southview anymore fwiw..but they heard on fremont's coach show last week that you guys will have Tiffin and Toledo start! Hope this helps brother! My cousin works in fremont at elmwood, so occasionally I hear something, a few mom's work there.
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