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Post by Green Falcon on Aug 2, 2020 6:19:20 GMT -5
Maybe this will allow Bay schools to realize it's in their and everyone's best interest to schedule local.
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Post by gridiron58 on Aug 2, 2020 8:34:13 GMT -5
Maybe this will allow Bay schools to realize it's in their and everyone's best interest to schedule local. By that same reasoning.... maybe this will allow Lake schools to realize it's in their and everyone's best interest to allow Fremont Ross into the league? They wont because they would rather force the smaller schools to play them instead of them having to play a larger school. They would much rather drive to Toledo and play a weak city league team instead of a much shorter drive to Fremont.
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Post by maplecityjake on Aug 2, 2020 8:41:35 GMT -5
I have to give Port Clinton credit; it's been a steady diet of Bellevue, Clyde, Norwalk, and Sandusky.
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Post by maplecityjake on Aug 2, 2020 8:57:17 GMT -5
Maybe this will allow Bay schools to realize it's in their and everyone's best interest to schedule local. By that same reasoning.... maybe this will allow Lake schools to realize it's in their and everyone's best interest to allow Fremont Ross into the league? They wont because they would rather force the smaller schools to play them instead of them having to play a larger school. They would much rather drive to Toledo and play a weak city league team instead of a much shorter drive to Fremont. Who would much rather go to Toledo?
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Post by kritz on Aug 2, 2020 9:42:11 GMT -5
Adding 1 team would make the scheduling worse.(Ross)
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Post by gridiron58 on Aug 2, 2020 10:24:15 GMT -5
By that same reasoning.... maybe this will allow Lake schools to realize it's in their and everyone's best interest to allow Fremont Ross into the league? They wont because they would rather force the smaller schools to play them instead of them having to play a larger school. They would much rather drive to Toledo and play a weak city league team instead of a much shorter drive to Fremont. Who would much rather go to Toledo? Specifically Clyde and Bellevue, the two schools who control the whole SBC. Clyde has played Start since '17-'18 and added Scott for this year. Bellevue has had Start on their schedule 3 of the last 4 years. Toledo is just one instance, these schools would rather play anyone (regardless of distance) than Ross. Clyde Schedule this year (pre-carona) and school distance drive time St. Francis - 56min Ashland - 1hr 7min Ponitz Tech - 2 1/2hrs Start - 57min Scott - 53min By comparison... Fremont - 18min Bellevue Schedule this year (pre-carona) and school distance drive time Start - 1hr 5min University School - 1 1/2hrs Clear Fork - 1hr 18min Madison - 1hr 5min Elyria Cath - 50min By comparison... Fremont - 25min I realize filling some weeks are tough and you have to take what you can get, but i'm pretty sure a game with Ross could have been secured on one of these weeks if Clyde and Bellevue would have wanted it. They need to stop complaining that smaller schools wont play them when they aren't willing to do the same.
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Post by gridiron58 on Aug 2, 2020 10:27:09 GMT -5
Adding 1 team would make the scheduling worse.(Ross) They could have added Ross when Shelby left. What is the difference?
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Post by maplecityjake on Aug 2, 2020 10:32:14 GMT -5
Adding 1 team would make the scheduling worse.(Ross) They could have added Ross when Shelby left. What is the difference? Shelby was in Bay.
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Post by maplecityjake on Aug 2, 2020 10:35:37 GMT -5
Who would much rather go to Toledo? Specifically Clyde and Bellevue, the two schools who control the whole SBC. Clyde has played Start since '17-'18 and added Scott for this year. Bellevue has had Start on their schedule 3 of the last 4 years. Toledo is just one instance, these schools would rather play anyone (regardless of distance) than Ross. Clyde Schedule this year (pre-carona) and school distance drive time St. Francis - 56min Ashland - 1hr 7min Ponitz Tech - 2 1/2hrs Start - 57min Scott - 53min By comparison... Fremont - 18min Bellevue Schedule this year (pre-carona) and school distance drive time Start - 1hr 5min University School - 1 1/2hrs Clear Fork - 1hr 18min Madison - 1hr 5min Elyria Cath - 50min By comparison... Fremont - 25min I realize filling some weeks are tough and you have to take what you can get, but i'm pretty sure a game with Ross could have been secured on one of these weeks if Clyde and Bellevue would have wanted it. They need to stop complaining that smaller schools wont play them when they aren't willing to do the same. What Divisions are Bellevue, Clyde, Edison, and Huron?
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Post by gridiron58 on Aug 2, 2020 10:37:08 GMT -5
They could have added Ross when Shelby left. What is the difference? Shelby was in Bay. Add Ross to Lake, move smallest Lake school to Bay.
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Post by gridiron58 on Aug 2, 2020 11:39:08 GMT -5
Specifically Clyde and Bellevue, the two schools who control the whole SBC. Clyde has played Start since '17-'18 and added Scott for this year. Bellevue has had Start on their schedule 3 of the last 4 years. Toledo is just one instance, these schools would rather play anyone (regardless of distance) than Ross. Clyde Schedule this year (pre-carona) and school distance drive time St. Francis - 56min Ashland - 1hr 7min Ponitz Tech - 2 1/2hrs Start - 57min Scott - 53min By comparison... Fremont - 18min Bellevue Schedule this year (pre-carona) and school distance drive time Start - 1hr 5min University School - 1 1/2hrs Clear Fork - 1hr 18min Madison - 1hr 5min Elyria Cath - 50min By comparison... Fremont - 25min I realize filling some weeks are tough and you have to take what you can get, but i'm pretty sure a game with Ross could have been secured on one of these weeks if Clyde and Bellevue would have wanted it. They need to stop complaining that smaller schools wont play them when they aren't willing to do the same. What Divisions are Bellevue, Clyde, Edison, and Huron? I answered the question as to who would rather play Toledo schools than Ross. You have no reply other than to ask a completely unrelated question. Huron is 3 kids away from D5, Edison is 5 from D5. Clyde is 11 Kids from D3, Bellevue is 14 from D3. The point? Clyde and Bellevue are larger than Huron and Edison. What Division is Oak Harbor and Willard? Also, Bellevue stacks their football numbers by limiting the sports they offer and then expect smaller schools who offer all the sports to play them. They should be moved up a division for that alone.
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Post by kritz on Aug 2, 2020 11:41:54 GMT -5
Has Ross found a replacement for Start yet?
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Post by maplecityjake on Aug 2, 2020 11:55:34 GMT -5
What Divisions are Bellevue, Clyde, Edison, and Huron? I answered the question as to who would rather play Toledo schools than Ross. You have no reply other than to ask a completely unrelated question. Huron is 3 kids away from D5, Edison is 5 from D5. Clyde is 11 Kids from D3, Bellevue is 14 from D3. The point? Clyde and Bellevue are larger than Huron and Edison. What Division is Oak Harbor and Willard? Also, Bellevue stacks their football numbers by limiting the sports they offer and then expect smaller schools who offer all the sports to play them. They should be moved up a division for that alone. Just to pacify you, Bellevue and Clyde have always been bigger than Huron. It wasn't an issue yesteryear. Why is it an issue now, esp since the 3 are in same Division?
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Post by maplecityjake on Aug 2, 2020 11:57:44 GMT -5
Add Ross to Lake, move smallest Lake school to Bay. SBC isn't obligated to make Ross happy. Any move by Lake school won't make them happy, nor ones in Bay.
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Post by gridiron58 on Aug 2, 2020 12:25:24 GMT -5
Add Ross to Lake, move smallest Lake school to Bay. SBC isn't obligated to make Ross happy. Any move by Lake school won't make them happy, nor ones in Bay. I never said they are obligated to make Ross happy. And the Bay schools are not obligated to make the Lake schools happy, but the Lake schools keep complaining that the Bay schools wont play them.
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Post by gridiron58 on Aug 2, 2020 12:43:20 GMT -5
I answered the question as to who would rather play Toledo schools than Ross. You have no reply other than to ask a completely unrelated question. Huron is 3 kids away from D5, Edison is 5 from D5. Clyde is 11 Kids from D3, Bellevue is 14 from D3. The point? Clyde and Bellevue are larger than Huron and Edison. What Division is Oak Harbor and Willard? Also, Bellevue stacks their football numbers by limiting the sports they offer and then expect smaller schools who offer all the sports to play them. They should be moved up a division for that alone. Just to pacify you, Bellevue and Clyde have always been bigger than Huron. It wasn't an issue yesteryear. Why is it an issue now, esp since the 3 are in same Division? To use your own quote... Huron isn't obligated to make Bellevue and Clyde happy. Times change, how competitive do you think those games would be now?
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Post by sportsvideo on Aug 2, 2020 12:49:14 GMT -5
why do we have a lake and bay division?
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Post by sportsvideo on Aug 2, 2020 13:05:59 GMT -5
Should this be what say a Huron Schedule look like?? week 1 at clyde week 2 norwalk week 3 at sandusky week 4 bellevue week 5 perkins week 6 willard week 7 at oak harbor week 8 at port clinton week 9 vermilion week 10 edison ? what do i do about tiffin?
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Post by kritz on Aug 2, 2020 13:16:38 GMT -5
Looks like an 0-4 start 😋
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Post by maplecityjake on Aug 2, 2020 13:50:44 GMT -5
Should this be what say a Huron Schedule look like?? week 1 at clyde week 2 norwalk week 3 at sandusky week 4 bellevue week 5 perkins week 6 willard week 7 at oak harbor week 8 at port clinton week 9 vermilion week 10 edison ?  what do i do about tiffin? you don't have to worry about that Week 3 because Ross and Sandusky are etched in stone.
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Post by maplecityjake on Aug 2, 2020 13:53:27 GMT -5
Just to pacify you, Bellevue and Clyde have always been bigger than Huron. It wasn't an issue yesteryear. Why is it an issue now, esp since the 3 are in same Division? To use your own quote... Huron isn't obligated to make Bellevue and Clyde happy. Times change, how competitive do you think those games would be now? True, although a bit apples-oranges between Ross to Lake, and Bellevue-Clyde to Huron. In what regard are you saying times changed?
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Post by sportsvideo on Aug 2, 2020 14:22:22 GMT -5
Should this be what say a Huron Schedule look like?? week 1 at clyde week 2 norwalk week 3 at sandusky week 4 bellevue week 5 perkins week 6 willard week 7 at oak harbor week 8 at port clinton week 9 vermilion week 10 edison ? what do i do about tiffin? you don't have to worry about that Week 3 because Ross and Sandusky are etched in stone. point being, who do we need to make happy here??? and why? the only team on our schedule that doesnt make sense is toledo waite..... st paul genoa have a pretty good football history... waite was gone after this year anyways.. and sooner than anyone thought obviously...
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Post by maplecityjake on Aug 2, 2020 15:16:00 GMT -5
I'm always going to maintain Bellevue and Huron should be playing each other.
But, they have 3 local schools, with 2 being in Lake.
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Post by sportsvideo on Aug 2, 2020 15:21:07 GMT -5
I'm always going to maintain Bellevue and Huron should be playing each other. But, they have 3 local schools, with 2 being in Lake. someday we will... but not now.
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Post by maplecityjake on Aug 2, 2020 15:36:19 GMT -5
I'm always going to maintain Bellevue and Huron should be playing each other. But, they have 3 local schools, with 2 being in Lake. someday we will... but not now. that's fair, but here's where I'm confused; Both programs have "regressed" since 2013, ironically the 1st year playing each other after 11 year hiatus. What am I missing?
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Post by sportsvideo on Aug 2, 2020 16:15:02 GMT -5
someday we will... but not now. that's fair, but here's where I'm confused; Both programs have "regressed" since 2013, ironically the 1st year playing each other after 11 year hiatus. What am I missing? nothing at all.. outside of waite our schedule isnt bad far as non-conference..
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Aug 3, 2020 6:06:57 GMT -5
Add Ross to Lake, move smallest Lake school to Bay. That wouldn't solve a GD thing. Both the Lake and Bay would end up with a worse scheduling situation than what currently exists. No matter how you slice it, changing Lake + Bay = 12 to Lake + Bay = 13 will make things slightly worse for the one that has 6 teams while making things a lot worse for the one that has 7 teams. The 6 team division still ends up playing Toledo public schools/whoever else is available weeks 4 and 5, just now at an even higer rate of frequency because 6 of the now 7 team division teams are busy playing each other in weeks 4 and 5 instead of being available for crossovers, meaning it's mathematically guaranteed that at least 5 teams from the 6 team division have to play outside of the SBC in each of those two weeks. Meanwhile, the 7 team division now has to deal with weekly bye week OOC games in weeks 4-10, and for the 5 who get stuck in the weeks 6-10 slots, it's arguably harder to find that one game in that part of the season than it is to find two games in weeks 4 and 5 (especially compared to the current setup where all 12 Lake + Bay teams are looking for games those same weeks and crossovers are easy to schedule if wanted) It all boils down to: Odd number bad Even number good SBC + Ross by themselves = odd number
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Post by maplecityjake on Aug 3, 2020 7:21:12 GMT -5
Here's what Ross should do: DMGB-Doesn't Matter, Get Better.
It's getting to the point I want to call them the Bucyrus Little Giants.
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Post by jmorgret07 on Aug 4, 2020 7:50:11 GMT -5
In actual non-conference news:
Oak Harbor vs. Tiffin Columbian, week 4 Huron vs. Mansfield Madison, week 4 Bellevue vs. Oak Harbor, week 5
Added to: Clyde vs. Bowling Green, week 3 Port Clinton at Clyde, week 4 Edison at Clyde, week 5
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Post by maplecityjake on Aug 4, 2020 8:36:42 GMT -5
Bellevue and Oak Harbor has been something I wanted to see for about 30 years.
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