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Post by babymaker on Sept 12, 2016 7:22:18 GMT -5
Injuries hurt teams sounds like GT you guys need to get healthy. Any chance of getting anyone back?
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Post by jedbartlet98 on Sept 12, 2016 12:10:40 GMT -5
We find out how good Pleasant is the next 3 weeks
@ Jonathan Alder
River Valley
@ North Union
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Post by babymaker on Sept 12, 2016 12:28:21 GMT -5
A lot can be said about a lot of teams in the next 3 weeks.
Is Harding as good as they have looked (yet still lost)?
Is NU real coming into league play 3-0?
Is Galion as bad as the last 2 weeks have shown?
Will Fairbanks shock some people?
etc. There is a lot that will be sorted out by the time we get 3 weeks of league play in.
The Blue seems to be just as question filled.
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Post by presnapread on Sept 12, 2016 13:17:41 GMT -5
A lot can be said about a lot of teams in the next 3 weeks. Is Harding as good as they have looked (yet still lost)? Is NU real coming into league play 3-0? Is Galion as bad as the last 2 weeks have shown? Will Fairbanks shock some people? etc. There is a lot that will be sorted out by the time we get 3 weeks of league play in. The Blue seems to be just as question filled. Answers: Yes Yes Yes Doubt it |
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Post by presnapread on Sept 12, 2016 13:19:37 GMT -5
We find out how good Pleasant is the next 3 weeks @ Jonathan Alder River Valley @ North Union The chance of Pleasant winning one of these games is about as good as John Hoynes making a political comeback... Arnie Vinnick has a better chance of winning. JA --- OUCH RV ---- ball game but loss NU --- ball game but loss In three weeks pleasant is 3-3 |
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Post by babymaker on Sept 12, 2016 14:20:31 GMT -5
We find out how good Pleasant is the next 3 weeks @ Jonathan Alder River Valley @ North Union The chance of Pleasant winning one of these games is about as good as John Hoynes making a political comeback... Arnie Vinnick has a better chance of winning. JA --- OUCH RV ---- ball game but loss NU --- ball game but loss In three weeks pleasant is 3-3 Well that is interesting. Unless Clearfork (34-0 in 2 quarters on a Mike Carrol run D) and Wynford are completely over rated I think they are better than last year. Honestly though with playing 2 teams that are horrid and one team that no one knows (best case a .500 team) about its hard to gauge what they really are. I would take a bet that there is 1 win of the 3. Good news is that is why they play the games. |
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Post by hardingmavman on Sept 12, 2016 17:39:56 GMT -5
A lot can be said about a lot of teams in the next 3 weeks. Is Harding as good as they have looked (yet still lost)?Is NU real coming into league play 3-0? Is Galion as bad as the last 2 weeks have shown? Will Fairbanks shock some people? etc. There is a lot that will be sorted out by the time we get 3 weeks of league play in. The Blue seems to be just as question filled. Harding has lost 2 of their 3 games in the last 5 mins of the game and have lost those two inside the 10 yard line with a chance to win... along with being stopped at the 25 yard line in the Lima game with a chance to tie... heard they were missing alot of players last week too and still lost barely they could easily be 3-0 right now instead of 0-3... but thats how the game goes. Fairbanks seemed to spark us last year should be the same this year... that Pleasant game will tell alot how they really are depending how they play Alder should be a great game. Read more: ncoast.proboards.com/thread/163/moac-2016?page=14#ixzz4K5H8HRoc |
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Post by galiontiger on Sept 12, 2016 19:43:46 GMT -5
Galion will be missing a lot of players again. I'm betting..if not..not even close to 100%. It's going to be a tough game for us...Buckeye Valley. I'm still hoping for the best. When we have everyone healthy, we are an average team. Missing like 3 key players...we...... you fill in the blank. LOL
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Post by presnapread on Sept 13, 2016 7:44:36 GMT -5
babymaker - love the avatar
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Post by presnapread on Sept 13, 2016 8:01:18 GMT -5
A lot can be said about a lot of teams in the next 3 weeks. Is Harding as good as they have looked (yet still lost)?Is NU real coming into league play 3-0? Is Galion as bad as the last 2 weeks have shown? Will Fairbanks shock some people? etc. There is a lot that will be sorted out by the time we get 3 weeks of league play in. The Blue seems to be just as question filled. Harding has lost 2 of their 3 games in the last 5 mins of the game and have lost those two inside the 10 yard line with a chance to win... along with being stopped at the 25 yard line in the Lima game with a chance to tie... heard they were missing alot of players last week too and still lost barely they could easily be 3-0 right now instead of 0-3... but thats how the game goes. Fairbanks seemed to spark us last year should be the same this year... that Pleasant game will tell alot how they really are depending how they play Alder should be a great game. Read more: ncoast.proboards.com/thread/163/moac-2016?page=14#ixzz4K5H8HRochardingmavman - YOU ARE QUITE CORRECT, IF the Pleasant/JA Game is a game then Pleasant (if still healthy) could beat RV/NU or maybe even both. |
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Post by babymaker on Sept 13, 2016 10:27:57 GMT -5
Hardingman I was not making light of Harding. They have done well and have been very competitive and people should take notice.
I don't know what Pleasant will do vs JA have not seen them play but they teams they have played are traditionally good teams so it will be a challenge. Kind of excited to see the Pugh (sp?) kid play its not often that the MOAC has a player that is a scholarship athlete for a D1 School much less a big 10 school.
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Post by babymaker on Sept 13, 2016 10:28:28 GMT -5
babymaker - love the avatar Just trying to keep up with you. You set the bar high. |
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Post by japioneers on Sept 13, 2016 11:32:57 GMT -5
Hardingman I was not making light of Harding. They have done well and have been very competitive and people should take notice. I don't know what Pleasant will do vs JA have not seen them play but they teams they have played are traditionally good teams so it will be a challenge. Kind of excited to see the Pugh (sp?) kid play its not often that the MOAC has a player that is a scholarship athlete for a D1 School much less a big 10 school. We all would like to see Pugh get the opportunity to play with a significant role in the game plan. We utilized his talent and skill sets well in our first game against Marysville. Since then, not so much.. He is Legit. We will see how the game against Pleasant goes.. |
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Post by presnapread on Sept 13, 2016 11:59:49 GMT -5
Galion will be missing a lot of players again. I'm betting..if not..not even close to 100%. It's going to be a tough game for us...Buckeye Valley. I'm still hoping for the best. When we have everyone healthy, we are an average team. Missing like 3 key players...we...... you fill in the blank. LOL From what they're saying on the street, BV has a MASH unit of it's own. |
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Post by presnapread on Sept 13, 2016 12:12:44 GMT -5
Chad Carpenter is an outstanding high school football coach and Highland an excellent high school football program. Wondering when the last time they started a year 0-3 was? Can't imagine they're winless for long!
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Post by presnapread on Sept 13, 2016 12:17:15 GMT -5
Notice I'm "all block" how many posts do I need to have until I'm "all backyard" or "all sideyard"?  |
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Post by babymaker on Sept 13, 2016 13:05:48 GMT -5
GT is 123 post in and a different title. Up your posting game!
That said I don't see Highland making it 4 straight. East Knox has been down as long as they have been in the league I don't know about their past though.
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Post by gopirates on Sept 13, 2016 13:55:37 GMT -5
Third year in a row they have started 0-3. That's a backfire, now isn't it. They won the MOAC Blue last year after that start and could do it again.
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Post by stanley on Sept 13, 2016 15:33:27 GMT -5
Pretty much every since league expansion Highland has been a division 4 school in the blue division full of div. 5 Mount Gilead and the rest of the schools being div. 6. (Some criticize Highland for this accusing them of wanting to be a big fish in a small pond, however, if they left the blue they would be leaving 50 year rivalries with the other Morrow county schools, and their main rival in Fredericktown) For any playoff prayer at all they have really been trying to stack that non league schedule of theirs it appears. This has included div 2 Mount Vernon, Loudonville when they were having pretty impressive teams, Heath, Bloom-Carroll, and River Valley. Unfortunately for the Scots, it is true their last non league win would have been in 2013 when they went 7-3. 2014 they started 0-3 and went 5-2 in their next 7, last year they started 0-3 and went 6-1 in the following 7 games. I would agree with presnapreads statement that Carpenter does a decent job showing how they seem to finish a lot stronger then they start. I would imagine Highland takes the next two Fridays for wins as they play East Knox and then they play Elgin. Week 6 it looks like they play Cenerburg, I think that week will give us a lot more of a realistic look at how Highland is.
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Post by stanley on Sept 13, 2016 23:31:37 GMT -5
A lot can be said about a lot of teams in the next 3 weeks. Is Harding as good as they have looked (yet still lost)? Is NU real coming into league play 3-0? Is Galion as bad as the last 2 weeks have shown? Will Fairbanks shock some people? etc. There is a lot that will be sorted out by the time we get 3 weeks of league play in. The Blue seems to be just as question filled. 1.) I think so. I think if nothing else they are certainly improved from last season, and they certainly were not bad last season. 2.) The win over Grandview looks awefully impressive. I'm very intrigued by the RV/NU matchup this Friday. 3.) I'm worried Fairbanks may be their only league play win if I had to make a guess right now. JA, NU, RV, Harding, BV, and Pleasant all appear to be not too bad at the moment. They are a combined 12-6. The six losses being Johnstown, Hayes, Madison, Mount Vernon, Lima, and Newark. No offense to Galion, but I feel like any of these 6 could have their way with Keystone 4.) I'm going to have to guess not. |
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Post by galiontiger on Sept 14, 2016 3:46:57 GMT -5
I know a bit more information than most of you guys know the Galion. Galion is trouble. They will struggle to win another game, not saying we can't..but it's going to be very hard for us to. It's too bad too, because I thought we would have a decent team. I still like our boys, a good group of boys. Plus I love Galion football. Great community for high school football.
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Post by moacmama on Sept 14, 2016 5:24:57 GMT -5
NU is off to a great start but we need to keep our guys healthy. We are missing a couple due to injuries. Some of the other guys did a great job when they had to step up last Friday. We are coached very well. Excited to see what they can do against RV even though they are missing those guys. MOAC should be a lot of fun this year.
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Post by presnapread on Sept 14, 2016 7:22:52 GMT -5
Pretty much every since league expansion Highland has been a division 4 school in the blue division full of div. 5 Mount Gilead and the rest of the schools being div. 6. (Some criticize Highland for this accusing them of wanting to be a big fish in a small pond, however, if they left the blue they would be leaving 50 year rivalries with the other Morrow county schools, and their main rival in Fredericktown) For any playoff prayer at all they have really been trying to stack that non league schedule of theirs it appears. This has included div 2 Mount Vernon, Loudonville when they were having pretty impressive teams, Heath, Bloom-Carroll, and River Valley. Unfortunately for the Scots, it is true their last non league win would have been in 2013 when they went 7-3. 2014 they started 0-3 and went 5-2 in their next 7, last year they started 0-3 and went 6-1 in the following 7 games. I would agree with presnapreads statement that Carpenter does a decent job showing how they seem to finish a lot stronger then they start. I would imagine Highland takes the next two Fridays for wins as they play East Knox and then they play Elgin. Week 6 it looks like they play Cenerburg, I think that week will give us a lot more of a realistic look at how Highland is. STAN THE MAN - Perhaps a topic for another time, but whether it's Highland wishing to maintain it's rivalries or wanting to remain a big fish in a small pond ..... Nothing against the Centerburg's and Fredericktown's of the world but when the "powers that be" expanded the MOAC years ago which resulted in the split and eventual division of the conference (Thanks Mike Hoyng in your conference leadership in thinking only of Highland and ignoring everyone else) they massively screwed up. They, hoping to change to improve, ended up destroying a nice 10 team conference. Organized, purposeful, well-thought out change is often good. This was anything but, and it's a crying shame. Next two weeks Highland will get it to 2-3 and then anything can happen as their players gain experience and confidence. |
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Post by stanley on Sept 14, 2016 7:55:26 GMT -5
Pretty much every since league expansion Highland has been a division 4 school in the blue division full of div. 5 Mount Gilead and the rest of the schools being div. 6. (Some criticize Highland for this accusing them of wanting to be a big fish in a small pond, however, if they left the blue they would be leaving 50 year rivalries with the other Morrow county schools, and their main rival in Fredericktown) For any playoff prayer at all they have really been trying to stack that non league schedule of theirs it appears. This has included div 2 Mount Vernon, Loudonville when they were having pretty impressive teams, Heath, Bloom-Carroll, and River Valley. Unfortunately for the Scots, it is true their last non league win would have been in 2013 when they went 7-3. 2014 they started 0-3 and went 5-2 in their next 7, last year they started 0-3 and went 6-1 in the following 7 games. I would agree with presnapreads statement that Carpenter does a decent job showing how they seem to finish a lot stronger then they start. I would imagine Highland takes the next two Fridays for wins as they play East Knox and then they play Elgin. Week 6 it looks like they play Cenerburg, I think that week will give us a lot more of a realistic look at how Highland is. STAN THE MAN - Perhaps a topic for another time, but whether it's Highland wishing to maintain it's rivalries or wanting to remain a big fish in a small pond ..... Nothing against the Centerburg's and Fredericktown's of the world but when the "powers that be" expanded the MOAC years ago which resulted in the split and eventual division of the conference (Thanks Mike Hoyng in your conference leadership in thinking only of Highland and ignoring everyone else) they massively screwed up. They, hoping to change to improve, ended up destroying a nice 10 team conference. Organized, purposeful, well-thought out change is often good. This was anything but, and it's a crying shame. Next two weeks Highland will get it to 2-3 and then anything can happen as their players gain experience and confidence. This time I honestly wasn't even trying to open that can of worms lol just stating the correlation between league expansion and the rough beginnings that Highland has had. |
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Post by presnapread on Sept 14, 2016 8:06:12 GMT -5
Understand, respect the correlation, AND if I might add, an excellent point. Sorry about opening that "Can" - I just loved that old conference, think it was excellent and while I respect Mike Hoyng as a hoops coach and Highland AD I don't respect the leadership he attempted to "provide" in the old MOAC. Don't have a handy Thesauraus, escapes me right now, but trying very, very hard to find a polite, mannerly, tactful synonym for the word douchebag. |
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Post by stanley on Sept 14, 2016 10:10:50 GMT -5
Understand, respect the correlation, AND if I might add, an excellent point. Sorry about opening that "Can" - I just loved that old conference, think it was excellent and while I respect Mike Hoyng as a hoops coach and Highland AD I don't respect the leadership he attempted to "provide" in the old MOAC. Don't have a handy Thesauraus, escapes me right now, but trying very, very hard to find a polite, mannerly, tactful synonym for the word douchebag. Haha it's all good. I was kidding anyways, I'm just usually the guy that always opens that "can" lol I miss the old conference in every sport except for football. When it comes to football I like every team getting three non league games instead of just the one. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2016 10:45:01 GMT -5
Sometime an Athletic Director who coaches can make choices that may seem to help them immediately but hurt them in the long run. In this case it cost him both jobs.
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Post by presnapread on Sept 14, 2016 12:19:44 GMT -5
Scooter - excellent point.
STAN the Man - back in 2004 or 2005 an AD proposed to the entire conference that in football teams had to play everyone in their respective division (4) games plus 3 mandatory cross over games (total of 7) which would have allowed EVERYONE in the conference to then go out and seek 3 out of (or if they so desired, in) conference opponents. It was proposed, seconded (so 2 AD's in favor of it) but when it came to a vote it was defeated 9-1. AD's didn't want to do it, only made sense the coaches would have wanted it.
Oh well.
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Post by presnapread on Sept 14, 2016 12:21:18 GMT -5
Is "All Block" like being All Neighborhood (which makes it slightly better than All Side or Backyard)? |
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Post by stanley on Sept 14, 2016 12:27:55 GMT -5
Thanks for that info presnapread I didn't even realize that. That would have been very fun. Also, yeah all block is miles ahead of being all backyard. Your on track to immortality presna!
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